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| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 1:19pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost false jw mad max u forever the liar forever paranoid and forever the follower of your father of lies the devil, and loving it, of course: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:27pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
johnw47: Fake Deeperlife pastor, answer the question: Why Are Both Jesus and Satan Referred To As The Morning Star?  1 Like |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 1:33pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost false jw mad max see how you can never stop lying you love following your father of lies the devil, you always have, and you always will, of course: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:53pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
johnw47: Hopeless fool. Answer the question! Why Are Both Jesus and Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? 1 Like |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 2:20pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool tormented lost one, name calling is false jw specialty lost false jw mad max remember how i said "you have nothing at all", but your lies of course, and ever since you have been showing it to be true, repeating your same lies over and over again, so funny, u so dum, aren't you Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse: liars and the paranoid and blasphemers and the confused etc.etc.etc. are cowards of course see you tonight you big fearful pussy: rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by oaroloye(m): 3:58pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
MISHIGAS! . MATTHEW 12:22-45. 22. Then was brought unto him one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. 23. And all the people were amazed, and said, "Is not this The Son of David?" 24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils." 25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and Said unto them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? 27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. 28. "But if I cast out Devils by the Spirit of God, then The Kingdom of God is come unto you. 29. "Or else how can one enter into a Strong Man's House, and spoil his Goods, except he first bind the Strong Man? And then he will spoil his House. 30. "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31. "Wherefore I Say unto you, 'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN.' 32. "And whosoever speaketh a word against The Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against The Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this World, neither in the World to come. 33. "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34. "O Generation of Vipers, how can ye, being Evil, speak Good Things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35. "A Good man out of the Good Treasure of the heart bringeth forth Good Things: and an Evil man out of the Evil Treasure bringeth forth Evil Things. 36. "But I Say unto you, 'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.' “ 37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified, and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned." 38. Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, "Master, we would see a Sign from thee." 39. But he Answered and Said unto them, "An Evil and Adulterous Generation seeketh after a Sign; and there shall no Sign be given to it, but The Sign of the Prophet Jonas: 40. "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the Earth. 41. "The men of Nineveh shall rise in Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: because they repented at the Preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a Greater than Jonas is here. 42. "The Queen of the South shall rise up in the Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: for she came from The Uttermost Parts of the Earth to hear The Wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a Greater than Solomon is here. 43. "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44. "Then he saith, 'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;' and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45. "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this Wicked Generation." INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE WORD OF GOD COMES FROM DEVIL POSSESSION- WHEN YOU HAVE COME TO THE UNDERSTANDING, ACCEPTANCE, BELIEF IN, OR OBEDIENCE OF ANY TRUTH, YOU HAVE DEFEATED EVERY DEVIL THAT WAS ACTIVELY TRYING TO STOP YOU FROM GETTING TO THAT TRUTH. If you learn a Truth from Satan being negligent to stop you, you must act on that Truth before he can get back to you, and take It from you. . REVELATION 22:11-12. 11. "He that is UNJUST, let him be Unjust still: and he which is FILTHY, let him be Filthy still: and he that is RIGHTEOUS, let him be Righteous still: and he that is HOLY, let him be Holy still. 12. "And, behold, I come quickly; and my Reward is with me, to give every man According as his Work shall be." . MATTHEW 13:1-23. THE same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side. 2. And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore. 3. And he Spake many things unto them in Parables, Saying, "Behold, a sower went forth to sow; 4. "And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: 5. "Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6. "And when the Sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7. "And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them: 8. "But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. 9. "Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." 10. And the Disciples came, and said unto him, "Why Speakest thou unto them in Parables?" 11. He Answered and Said unto them, "Because it is given unto you to know The Mysteries of The Kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given. 12. "For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13. "Therefore Speak I to them in Parables: 'BECAUSE THEY SEEING SEE NOT; AND HEARING THEY HEAR NOT, NEITHER DO THEY UNDERSTAND.' 14. "And in them is fulfilled the Prophecy of Esaias, which saith, 'BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR, AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND; AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE, AND SHALL NOT PERCEIVE: 15. 'FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART IS WAXED GROSS, AND THEIR EARS ARE DULL OF HEARING, AND THEIR EYES THEY HAVE CLOSED; LEST AT ANY TIME THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART, AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED, AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.' 16. "But Blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 17. "For verily I Say unto you, 'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND RIGHTEOUS MEN HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE, AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM; AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR, AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' 18. "Hear ye therefore The Parable of the Sower. 19. 'WHEN ANY ONE HEARETH THE WORD OF THE KINGDOM, AND UNDERSTANDETH IT NOT, THEN COMETH THE WICKED ONE, AND CATCHETH AWAY THAT WHICH WAS SOWN IN HIS HEART. THIS IS HE WHICH RECEIVED SEED BY THE WAY SIDE. 20. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED THE SEED INTO STONY PLACES, THE SAME IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD, AND ANON WITH JOY RECEIVETH IT; 21. 'YET HATH HE NOT ROOT IN HIMSELF, BUT DURETH FOR A WHILE: FOR WHEN TRIBULATION OR PERSECUTION ARISETH BECAUSE OF THE WORD, BY AND BY HE IS OFFENDED. 22. 'HE ALSO THAT RECEIVED SEED AMONG THE THORNS IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD; AND THE CARE OF THIS WORLD, AND THE DECEITFULNESS OF RICHES, CHOKE THE WORD, AND HE BECOMETH UNFRUITFUL. 23. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED SEED INTO THE GOOD GROUND IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD, AND UNDERSTANDETH IT; WHICH ALSO BEARETH FRUIT, AND BRINGETH FORTH, SOME AN HUNDREDFOLD, SOME SIXTY, SOME THIRTY.' " If you do not understand these Truths, you will lose your Soul, and you will die. These are not trivial points. Kobojunkie: OLAADEGBU: FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I LEARN WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS FROM THE BIBLE, NOT FROM WEBSITES. That is why I read ISAIAH 14 From The Beginning, and learned that ISAIAH was talking about NEBUCHADNEZZAR, THE KING OF BABYLON, the whole time. Oyinbo Atheist and Christian Hypocrite fools and their Colonial lackeys have these stupid theories based on taking verses out-of-context, whereas the contexts prove their twistings to be the silliest ideas. . ISAIAH 14:1-5. FOR The LORD will have Mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the House of Jacob. 2. And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the House of Israel shall possess them in the land of The LORD for servants and handmaids: they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their Oppressors. 3. And it shall come to pass in the Day that The LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve, 4. That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, "HOW HATH THE OPPRESSOR CEASED! THE GOLDEN CITY CEASED!" Kobojunkie: . JOB 38:7. 7. "When the Morning Stars sang together, and all The Sons of God shouted for joy?" WHEN YOU OMIT ONE WORD FROM A SCRIPTURAL QUOTATION, YOU CAN PERVERT ITS MEANING COMPLETELY! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlEH8AESacU None of these Scriptures says that there is only one Morning Star- Astronomy proves that under appropriate conditions, MARS, SATURN, and JUPITER can also be seen in the daylight, and also termed "MORNING STARS." (The Ancients could tell the difference between Stars and Planets, but did not know what those differences meant, and called them all "Stars."  However, THE one that is constant, that is even so bright as to cast shadows, is VENUS, which is "THE" Morning Star. The most important one. Janosky: OF COURSE, FLESH AND BLOOD DWELL IN HEAVEN, YOU FOOL! WHAT DID YOU THINK DWELT IN HEAVEN- HOLLYWOOD CARTOON GHOSTS? . GENESIS 5:24. 24. And Enoch walked with God: and he (was) not; for God took him. . DEUTERONOMY 34:5-7. 5. So Moses the Servant of The LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to The Word of The LORD. 6. And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day. 7. And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated. . 2nd KINGS 2:11. 11. And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, (there appeared) a Chariot of Fire, and Horses of Fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a Whirlwind into Heaven. . MARK 9:1-10. AND he Said unto them, "Verily I Say unto you, 'THAT THERE BE SOME OF THEM THAT STAND HERE, WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE OF DEATH, TILL THEY HAVE SEEN THE KINGDOM OF GOD COME WITH POWER.' " 2. And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was Transfigured before them. 3. And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on Earth can white them. 4. And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus. 5. And Peter answered and said to Jesus, "Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias." 6. For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid. 7. And there was a Cloud that overshadowed them: and a Voice came out of the Cloud, Saying, "THIS IS MY BELOVED SON: HEAR HIM." 8. And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves. 9. And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till The Son of Man were Risen from the Dead. 10. And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean. Luke 24:39-43 39. "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." 40. And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them (his) hands and (his) feet. 41. And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, "Have ye here any meat?" 42. And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. 43. And he took (it), and did eat before them. . ACTS 1:1-11. THE former Treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and Teach, 2. Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through The Holy Ghost had given Commandments unto the Apostles whom he had chosen: 3. To whom also he shewed himself alive after his Passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to The Kingdom of God: 4. And, being assembled together with them, Commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for The Promise of the Father, "Which," Saith he, "ye have heard of me. 5. "For John truly Baptized with Water; but ye shall be Baptized with The Holy Ghost not many days hence." 6. When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, "Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again The Kingdom to Israel?" 7. And he Said unto them, "It is not for you to know the Times or the Seasons, which the Father hath put in His Own Power. 8. "But ye shall receive Power, after that The Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the Earth." 9. And when he had Spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a Cloud received him out of their sight. 10. And while they looked stedfastly toward Heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11. Which also said, "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into Heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into Heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into Heaven." THE GODS DWELL IN THE SEVEN HEAVENS THEREFORE, SINCE NEBUCHADNEZZAR BOASTED OF BEING A GOD, HE MUST HAVE FALLEN FROM THE HEAVEN HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO ASCEND INTO. It is SARCASM. . ISAIAH 14:12-21. 12. "How art thou fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer, Son of the Morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13. "For thou hast said in thine heart, 'I WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN, I WILL EXALT MY THRONE ABOVE THE STARS OF GOD: I WILL SIT ALSO UPON THE MOUNT OF THE CONGREGATION, IN THE SIDES OF THE NORTH: 14. 'I WILL ASCEND ABOVE THE HEIGHTS OF THE CLOUDS; I WILL BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH.' 15. "Yet thou shalt be brought down to Hell, to the sides of the Pit. 16. "They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, 'IS THIS THE MAN THAT MADE THE EARTH TO TREMBLE, THAT DID SHAKE KINGDOMS; 17. 'THAT MADE THE WORLD AS A WILDERNESS, AND DESTROYED THE CITIES THEREOF; THAT OPENED NOT THE HOUSE OF HIS PRISONERS?' 18. "All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. 19. "But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the Pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. 20. "Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the Seed of Evildoers shall never be renowned. 21. "Prepare slaughter for his children for the Iniquity of their Fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the World with cities." NEBUCHADNEZZAR TRIED TO BECOME A GOD ON PAR WITH GOD- AND SUFFERED A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN. . DANIEL 4:28-33. 28. All this came upon the king Nebuchadnezzar. 29. At the end of twelve months he walked in the palace of the kingdom of Babylon. 30. The king spake, and said, "Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the House of the Kingdom by the Might of my Power, and for the Honour of my Majesty?" 31. While the word was in the king's mouth, there fell a Voice from Heaven, saying, "O king Nebuchadnezzar, to thee it is spoken; 'THE KINGDOM IS DEPARTED FROM THEE. 32. 'AND THEY SHALL DRIVE THEE FROM MEN, AND THY DWELLING SHALL BE WITH THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD: THEY SHALL MAKE THEE TO EAT GRASS AS OXEN, AND SEVEN TIMES SHALL PASS OVER THEE, UNTIL THOU KNOW THAT THE MOST HIGH RULETH IN THE KINGDOM OF MEN, AND GIVETH IT TO WHOMSOEVER HE WILL.' 33. The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar: and he was driven from men, and did eat grass as oxen, and his body was wet with the Dew of Heaven, till his hairs were grown like eagles' feathers, and his nails like birds' claws. Janosky: SATAN WAS THE SERPENT IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN WHO STOLE THE DIVINE POWER FROM ADAM AND EVE, AND SO GAINED THE ABILITY TO ASCEND INTO HEAVEN, AS THE KING OF ALL MANKIND. . JOB 1:6-7. 6. Now there came a day when The Sons of God came to present themselves before The LORD, and Satan came also among them. 7. And The LORD Said unto Satan, "Whence comest thou?" Then Satan answered The LORD, and said, "From going to and fro in the Earth, and from walking up and down in It." SATAN IS MORE THAN A MERE RULER OF ONE CITY: HE HAS PRINCES UNDER HIM THAT RULE CITIES. It is HYPOCRISY to question that Nebuchadnezzar was in Heaven, and not question when Lord Yeshua, as a Lucifer Morning Star, ever destroyed cities, and imprisoned men! |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:41pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
johnw47:OLAADEGBU, i know it's only three things that makes you post comments: To promote Deeperlife. To ask others what Kumuyi don't know. To ATTACK Jehovah's Witnesses. So i'll leave you and other misinformed churchgoers to continue arguing until you people ask JWs for enlightenment on the topic! 1 Like |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by tctrills: 5:12pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
Steep:Lol, So you mean satan was not a bright star ba? |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by tctrills: 5:15pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by tctrills: 5:16pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
oaroloye:Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by Kobojunkie: 5:42pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
This message from God to Job clearly expresses His intention. The mention of the morning star in this context is not associated with either of Satan or Jesus Christ nor the Sons of God. Instead, it is a boast of which only God is capable and makes clear to Job, a servant of His.  1 Then the Lord spoke to Job from a whirlwind and said, |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by Kobojunkie: 5:52pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
Below is just a portion of Job's own lament. Pay attention to the contents of Job's lament, and the claims he made, and compare them to God's response to Job. 1 Then Job opened his mouth and cursed the day he was born. |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by oaroloye(m): 11:02pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
MISHIGAS! . PROVERBS 6:16-19. 16 These six things doth The LORD Hate: yea, seven are an Abomination unto Him: 17. "A PROUD LOOK, A LYING TONGUE, AND HANDS THAT SHED INNOCENT BLOOD, 18. AN HEART THAT DEVISETH WICKED IMAGINATIONS, FEET THAT BE SWIFT IN RUNNING TO MISCHIEF, 19. A FALSE WITNESS THAT SPEAKETH LIES, AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN." . PROVERBS 26:24-28. 24. He that hateth dissembleth with his lips, and layeth up deceit within him; 25. When he speaketh fair, believe him not: for (there are) seven Abominations in his heart. 26. (Whose) hatred is covered by Deceit, his Wickedness shall be shewed before the (whole) Congregation. 27. Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him. 28. A lying tongue hateth (those that are) afflicted by it; and a Flattering Mouth worketh Ruin. THE RINGLEADERS OF SINFULNESS AND ERROR CAN BETTER BE UNDERSTOOD IN RELATION TO KING SHLOMO'S SEVEN ABOMINATIONS DOCTRINE. Anyone who does not recognize that the so-called APOSTLES are consistent with King Shlomo's Prophecy, must know nothing about The New Testament. All the flattery the Apostles heaped on Lord Yeshua after his Ascension waa to ruin his Church. They were following him because they exoected him to make them kings of Y'srael. When they failed to perceive thst he had done exactly what he had promised to the letter, they turned agaibst him and his Gospel, and set out to destroy It. . LUKE 9-18-56. 18. And it came to pass, as he was alone praying, his Disciples were with him: and he Asked them, Saying, "Whom say the people that I am?" 19. They answering said, " 'JOHN THE BAPTIST;' but some say, 'ELIAS;' and others say, 'THAT ONE OF THE OLD PROPHETS IS RISEN AGAIN.' " 20. He Said unto them, "But whom say ye that I am?" Peter answering said, "The Christ of God." 21. And he Straitly Charged them, and Commanded them to tell no man that thing; 22. Saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the Elders and Chief Priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised The Third Day." 23. And he Said to them all, "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 24. "For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. 25. "For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole World, and lose himself, or be cast away? 26. "For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my Words, of him shall The Son of Man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own Glory, and in his Father's, and of The Holy Angels. 27. "But I tell you of a Truth, 'THERE BE SOME STANDING HERE, WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE OF DEATH, TILL THEY SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' " 28. And it came to pass about an eight days after These Sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray. 29. And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering. 30. And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31. Who appeared in Glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. 32. But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his Glory, and the two men that stood with him. 33. And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, "Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias:" not knowing what he said. 34. While he thus spake, there came a Cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into The Cloud. 35. And there came a Voice out of the cloud, Saying, "THIS IS MY BELOVED SON: HEAR HIM." 36. And when The Voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen. 37. And it came to pass, that on the next day, when they were come down from the hill, much people met him. 38. And, behold, a man of the Company cried out, saying, "Master, I beseech thee, look upon my son: for he is mine only child. 39. "And, lo, a spirit taketh him, and he suddenly crieth out; and it teareth him that he foameth again, and bruising him hardly departeth from him. 40. "And I besought thy Disciples to cast him out; and they could not." 41. And Jesus Answering Said, "O Faithless and Perverse Generation, how long shall I be with you, and suffer you? Bring thy son hither." 42. And as he was yet a coming, the Devil threw him down, and tare him. And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and Healed the child, and delivered him again to his father. 43. And they were all amazed at The Mighty Power of God. But while they wondered every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his Disciples, 44. "Let These Sayings sink down into your ears: 'FOR THE SON OF MAN SHALL BE DELIVERED INTO THE HANDS OF MEN.' " 45. But they understood not This Saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of That Saying. 46. Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be greatest. 47. And Jesus, perceiving the thought of their heart, took a child, and set him by him, 48. And Said unto them, "Whosoever shall receive this child in my Name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth Him That sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great." 49. And John answered and said, "Master, we saw one casting out Devils in thy Name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us." 50. And Jesus Said unto him, "Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us." 51. And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, 52. And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, o make ready for him. 53. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 54. And when his Disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from Heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?" 55. But he turned, and rebuked them, and Said, "Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56. "For The Son of Man is not Come to Destroy men's lives but to Save them." And they went to another village. 57. And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, "Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest." 58. And Jesus Said unto him, "Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of Man hath not where to lay his head." 59. And he Said unto another, "Follow me." But he said, "Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father." 60. Jesus Said unto him, "Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach The Kingdom of God." 61. And another also said, "Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house." 62. And Jesus Said unto him, "No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for The Kingdom of God." GEORGE LAMSA, THE ARAMAIC AUTHORITY, EXPLAINS IN HIS PESHITTA BIBLE LUKE 9:59 FOOTNOTE, THAT THE TERM MEANT: "TO LOOK AFTER HIS FATHER UNTIL HE WAS DEAD." To understand "THE APOSTLES," adopt the viewpoint that THEY NEVER ACCEPTED ANY OF HIS CORRECTIONS. . LUKE 10:16-24. 16. "He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth Him that sent me." 17. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, "Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us through thy Name." 18. And he Said unto them, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven. 19. "Behold, I give unto you Power to tread on Serpents and Scorpions, and over all the Power of the Enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." 20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your Names are written in Heaven." 21. In that Hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and Said, "I thank Thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and Earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed Good in Thy Sight. 22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who The Son is, but The Father; and Who The Father is, but The Son, and he to whom The Son will reveal him." 23. And he turned him unto his Disciples, and Said privately, "Blessed are the eyes which see The Things that ye see: 24. "For I Tell you, 'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE, AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM; AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR, AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' " Logically, Disciple Yochannan told Lord Yeshua about how they banned "The Strange Exorcist" because it was his idea. His is the only one of the four surviving and approved Gospels that does not testify of Lord Yeshua either casting out Devils, or delegating this ability to others. HE DID NOT WANT US TO KNOW THAT WE HAD THIS OPTION: HE DID NOT WANT US TO KNOW THAT THE POWER OF THE GOSPEL IS GREATER THAN THE POWER OF SATAN. Therefore, his BOOK OF REVELATION tells us that THE DEVIL'S MINION is "GIVEN POWER TO WAGE WAR AGAINST THE SAINTS OF GOD, AND TO OVERCOME THEM." That was credible only because THE APOSTLES HAD ENGINEERED THAT SITUATION- Yochannan, the longest surviving "Apostle" had been sabotaging Thr Church the whole time, keeping The True Power of The Gospel from Christians, so thst they would die under the Persecution caused by PAUL, when he told the mad Emperor Nero that he had made Lord Yeshua manifest to him, by persecuting Christians. MaxInDHouse: THE STRAWMAN ARGUMENT IS MAY NEVER BE SOLVED, OR THE SOLUTION IS A PREMISE DETERMINED BY THE ARGUER- BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON A LIE. In this case, there is insufficient correlation between SATAN/THE DEVIL/THE SERPENT OF THE GARDEN OF EDEN, and LUCIFER/THE CONQUERING, IMPRISONING, AND "CIVILIZING" KING OF BABYLON. . REVELATION 12:1-17. AND there appeared A Great Wonder in Heaven; a Woman clothed with The Sun, and The Moon under her feet, and upon her head a Crown of Twelve Stars: 2. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3. And there appeared another Wonder in Heaven; and behold A Great Red Dragon, having Seven Heads and Ten Horns, and and Seven Crowns upon his Heads. 4. And his tail drew the third part of The Stars of Heaven, and did cast them to the Earth: and The Dragon stood before the Woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her Child as soon as it was born. 5. And she brought forth a Man Child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to His Throne. 6. And the woman fled into the Wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7. And there was War in Heaven: Michael and his Angels fought against the Dragon; and the Dragon fought and his Angels, 8. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in Heaven. 9. And the great Dragon was cast out, That Old Serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole World: he was cast out into the Earth, and his Angels were cast out with him. 10. And I heard a loud Voice Saying in Heaven, "Now is come Salvation, and Strength, and The Kingdom of our God, and the Power of His Christ: for the Accuser of our Brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night." 11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the Word of their Testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the Death. 12. Therefore rejoice, ye Heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the Earth and of the Sea! For The Devil is come down unto you, having Great Wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13. And when The Dragon saw that he was cast unto the Earth, he persecuted the Woman which brought forth the Man Child. 14. And to the Woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the Face of The Serpent. 15. And The Serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the Woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16. And the Earth helped the Woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which The Dragon cast out of his mouth. 17. And The Dragon was wroth with the Woman, and went to make War with the remnant of her seed, which keep The Commandments of God, and have The Testimony of Jesus Christ. MY UNIQUE INTERPRETATION OF REVELATION 12.© (01) The woman is Mariam, Mother of Yeshua. The Sun is God. The Moon is The Holy Scriptures. The Crown of Twevle Stars is pure Y'sraelite descent. (02) The gestation of Lord Yeshua caused a Spiritual shockwave. (03) The "Great" Dragon is SATAN/THE DEVIL/THE SERPENT SURVIVOR OF THE GARDEN OF EDEN. His seven Heads are his ability to Operate on the Seven Heavenly Levels counteracting and perverting The Seven Attributes of God: 7. CHARITY. 6. BROTHERLY KINDNESS. 5. GODLINESS. 4. PATIENCE. 3. TEMPERANCE. 2. KNOWLEDGE. 1. VIRTUE. His Ten Horns are his ability to Operate offensively in The Ten Dominions of the whole Earth: . THE TEN POUNDS OF DOMINION. (LUKE 19:11-27) 1. THE ABOVE; 2. THE BELOW. 3. THE EARTH; 4. THE NETHER REALMS. 5. FIRE; 6. WATER. 7. THE MOVING; 8. THE STATIONARY. 9. THE LOUD; 10. THE SILENT. (04) The Stars of Heaven are the Heavenly Powers. The Tail of the Dragon is his Followership. Satan's followers have access to one-third of Heavenly Power. . THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25) 1. TOTAL RECALL. 2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. TELEKINESIS. 4. TELEPORTATION. 5. TRANSLATION. 6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE. [See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985).] The Devil tried to destroy Lord Yeshua as soon as he was born. Mariam was right under his nose, but he didn't see her. His Servants, the Astrologer Magi, ought to have known that Yeshua would be born at Bethlehem. They fumbled. (05) The Man Child was Lord Yeshua. He was caught up to Heaven and briefed on his Mission as a child. [See: SCENES BEYOND THE GRAVE, by Marietta Davis (1854). VISIONS BEYOND THE VEIL, by H.A. Baker (1920). I BELIEVE IN VISIONS, by Kenneth E. Hagin (1972). ANGELS ON ASSIGNMENT, by Charles & Frances Hunter (1979). I SAW HEAVEN, by Roberts S. Liardon (1983). THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985). THE PRODIGY: The Biography of WILLIAM JAMES SIDIS- America's Greatest Child Prodigy, by Amy Wallace (1986).] (06) MARIAM did not support Lord Yeshua's Ministry, but according to local Beliefs, if she gave birth to one Prophet, she could give birth to another. Therefore she stayed out of spotlights for the duration of Lord Yeshua's 3½ years Ministry. (07) The War in Heaven was to expel THE GOSPEL from Y'srael, and to KILL Lord Yeshua and KEEP him DEAD, between ANGEL MICHAEL, The Archangel of Y'srael and Satan. THE DEVIL AND HIS POWERS INITIALLY FAILED, BUT WERE FULLY REINSTATED WHEN CEPHAS KILLED ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA. Lord Yeshua's Sacrifice became meaningless after that. (08) The casting out of Satan became meaningless, when The Apostles decided to betray Lord Yeshua and his Church by withholding The Gospel. (09) "ANGEL" means Messenger. Any artifact of an Entity contains the spirit of that Entity. Projected Entities of Power who worked for God work for Satan, until Servants of God smackdown his wicked heads, and take them from him. THE APOSTLES in general, and YOCHANNAN in particular, did not want this to happen. (10) The casting down of Satan was rendered meaningless by the defection of the so-called Apostles. (11) Lord Yeshua Promised that those who followed his Teachings would not only not be harmed by any means, but they would not even die. The Apostles sabotaged these Great Promises by diverting the Disciples from Lord Yeshua's Teachings to those of their own devising, so that they could be harmed and killed. For instance, they told them that they should go back to the Synagogues that had formerly expelled them. This could only have been possible with Sanhedrin cooperation. This enabled Sh'aul and the other Sanhedrin Marshal Bounty Hunters to catch them, and haul them to Yasharaylim, to be executed for calling Lord Yeshua "THE SON OF GOD." They were cynically assured by The Apostles that being killed by the Sanhedrin was "overcoming the World, the Flesh, and The Devil," whereas it was the polar opposite! This was their revenge on those willing to die for Lord Yeshua, only after he had Returbed from the Dead. Their betrayal waa glossed over by Luke's account. All others are suppressed. (12) The entire History of the Nation of Y'srael is 1,300 years. Lord Yeshua had Satan cast down (for all the good that did!) 2,000 years ago. How is that a "short time?" "APOSTLE" YOCHANNAN LIED AGAIN! The Apostles' corruption gave Satan a new lease on life. (13) The Devil went after Mariam, Mother of Lord Yeshua- lest she bear another Problem for him. (14) She escaped into obscurity. (15) A manhunt for Mariam was tried, but failed. This is consistent with EMPEROR NERO putting out an "APB" on the mother of his new "Enemy of the State." He infamously killed his own mother, for threatening to replace him. Paul surely knew this, and counted on it. (16) There were just too many places for her pursuers to search, so that their resources were depleted, without even getting to her. (17) Giving up on finding Mariam, Satan, working through MANIACAL NERO, began the slaughter of the first Christians, blaming them for the Great Fire of Rome- WHICH PAUL COULD HAVE DONE. He said that he was accused of teaching "LET US DO EVIL, THAT GOOD MAY COME! MaxInDHouse: [b]SATAN HAS NEVER BEEN REFERRED TO AS "THE MORNING STAR," BECAUSE SATAN WAS NEVER LUCIFER./b] Stop lying! A person who believes BLACK SKIN IS A CURSE FROM NOAH should be careful slinging the epithet "FOOL!" |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 12:22am On Jul 23, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at lost false jw mad max see how all you have is your offenses against God your lies and your paranoia, you can never stop lying and you love your lies repeating them over and over again til Kingdom come they are of course from your father the devil: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. and of course your other offenses against God your blaspheming etc. 1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 1:15am On Jul 23, 2022 |
these things that the LORD hates is talking about you oh lost false jw mad max and your followers, Trevor007007 etc. among others Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 6:22am On Jul 23, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: lost false jw mad max, forever the paraoid liar, of course your paranoia and lies are from your father of lies the devil you know that and love it, repeating your paranoia and lies over and over again, like the false jw that you are you love doing things the LORD hates: Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. "A false witness that speaks lies", that's you exactly, isn't it oh false Jehovah's witness, oh lost one you are of course of your father the devil: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:45am On Jul 23, 2022 |
johnw47: MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by Trevor007007(m): 8:17am On Jul 23, 2022 |
johnw47:All the things you quoted above is useless even to the blind Mr liar, all imperfect humans including you have majority of the the things mentioned on the verses you just sighted, funny enough you just proved what you truly are and you know deep down that what you quoted above is speaking to you Mr liar johnw47. But please continue am enjoying your stupidity  , frying pan calling kettle black, you need help, like seriously �. Yaba left is not too far from where you reside I presume, it just 300 naira from your residence, quickly go for medical checkup before it is too late or else.... , Ara ga gba-pu-gi pant. .1 Like |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 10:30am On Jul 23, 2022 |
Trevor007007: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool false jw 007 God hates liars/a false witness, and you make out it's okay saying we all do it what a dum dum and know nothing you are, and even by your own confession you are a "false Jehovah's witness" perhaps the only true thing you have said like i said you love following and supporting those who do what God hates: Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 10:41am On Jul 23, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost false jw mad max like i said, you love doing the things that the lord hates and you love doing them over and over again Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. "A false witness that speaks lies", is you exactly, isn't it you are of course of your father the devil: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:00am On Jul 23, 2022 |
johnw47: Useless, worthless and hopeless Deeperlifer! Kumuyi is not here so you have to start running away from the question expecting me to deviate from the main point shey? Mr idiot, answer the question! [quote author=MaxInDHouse post=114978244] Why Are Both Jesus and Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? The more you respond the more you expose yourself as OLAADEGBU who can't establish anything regarding faith unless he present Kumuyi's video! |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by Trevor007007(m): 11:07am On Jul 23, 2022 |
johnw47:JW is much better to me than to you because you can't stand why upon all your deluded ranting they still can not see you around because somehow you don't exist, your cry is as silent as the grave brah oh! Oh! Oh!, This JW members are the best people to associate with in this wicked times that we live in, associating with other denomination is not wise, too many pastorprenuers with there hypocritical members that can easily bewitch you if you make any silly mistakes around them, but the JW are better off to me than them any day any time, though they are not perfect, they are not overly righteous like you claim to be Mr Liar pant johnw47, while you foolishly are point one finger against the witnesses remember the remaining of your other 4 fingers is pointing you, but unfortunately you are too dumb to know that. |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 11:24am On Jul 23, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool false jw mad max see how you are forever the lost liar, forever the lost false accuser see how you forever love to go against God: Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischie, Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. you lie as bad as your father of lies the devil, don't you: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. you and 007 call names because the truth hurts you, and you have no truth to say |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by oaroloye(m): 11:33am On Jul 23, 2022 |
MISHIGAS! tctrills: QUOTING MY ENTIRE POST WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF MY SOLUTIONS, NOR COMMENT ON MY UNIQUE POINTS, SEEMS TO ME A RUDE WAY TO DISPLAY YOUR TOTAL LACK OF INTELLIGENCE AND FAILURE OF INTELLECT! You just quote JOB 38:7, as if you think you are teaching me the fifth Scripture I quoted. Clearly, you are not reading my Posts, but are merely here to destructively criticize. Kobojunkie: MY POINT IN QUOTING THAT SCRIPTURE WAS TO SHOW THAT WHAT Kobojunkie CLAIMED- THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE MORNING STAR, AND THAT EVERY OTHER REFERENCE WAS OF MEN IS FALSE. As usual. This is consistent with what The Lord said: that those who tell men that he is The Christ are always DECEIVERS. oaroloye: CARLOS CASTANEDA was an Anthropology postgraduate student at the University of Los Angeles, and he chose as his project to disprove the claim of YAQUI INDIAN NATIVE AMERICANS, that a ritual of theirs, called a MITOTE, involving the group consumption of a PEYOTE CACTUS FRUIT, forged a temporary telepathic link amongst the participants, enabling them to act in unison. He intended to tell whatever lie he needed, so as to infiltrate one of their Sacred Communions, so that he could discover the secret method they used to cue one another to act as one. However, he was introduced to a "Herbalist" named JUAN MATUS, whom he was told could get him into a ritual. The Herbalist, however, was a NAGUAL- a see, with the ability to shapeshift to animal form. He followed omens which instructed him to make this foolish American his Apprentice, and teach him everything he needed to know, to become his successor. He participated in the Ritual, resolving to stay alert, to discover the secret that would enable him to to destroy the beliefs of the people who had taken him in. However, he quickly became unaware of where he was, and found himself in the presence of the Entity in charge of the Peyote Experience: MESCALITO. Mescalito held a considerable conversation with him, and when he recovered, he was told that he had been doing something ridiculous, while he thought that he had been talking to a god. This impressed the Yaqui Indians, and especially the Nagual. He agreed to teach him how to harvest Peyote for his own use. On an appointed day, he took him out to the wilderness, to look for Peyote Cacti. They presently came upon a cluster, and Carlos Castaneda excited pointed and exclaimed, "LOOK! THERE IS PEYOTE OVER THERE!" To his surprise, Don Juan Matus ignored the plants, and marched on past. After they had gone some distance, not talking the whole afternoon, passing several good crops, Don Juan finally rounded on him, and warned him sternly, to never behave like that again! He told him that his disrespect of Mescalito had made those plants unusable. He then told him of the proper way to harvest Peyote for ritual use. They could only pick from plants they found in their path- they could not go deliberately hunting for them. He would find them, he insisted, they would not find him. [See: THE TEACHINGS OF DON JUAN: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge, by Carlos Castaneda (1968).] This explains why it is most people get nothing out of The Bible. The people in it are, to them, mere "characters." Like in a JAMES BOND or JAMES HADLEY CHASE novel. They are not perceived to be people on different levels than them, but no different than anyone they went to school with, or buy groceries from. . MARK 6:1-6. AND he went out from thence, and came into his own country; and his Disciples follow him. 2. And when The Sabbath Day was come, he began to Teach in the Synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, Saying, "From whence hath this man these things? And what Wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such Mighty Works are wrought by his hands? 3. "Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? And are not his sisters here with us?" And they were offended at him. 4. But Jesus Said unto them, "A Prophet is not without Honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house." 5. And he could there do no Mighty Work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and Healed them. 6. And he marvelled because of their Unbelief. And he went round about the villages, Teaching. TAKING THINGS FOR GRANTED DRAINS THEM OF THEIR SPIRITUAL BENEFIT TO YOU: "FAMILIARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT." . LEVITICUS 19:32-37. 32. "Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I (am) The LORD. 33. "And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34. "(But) the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I (am) The LORD your God. 35. "Ye shall do no unrighteousness in Judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or in measure. 36. "Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I (am) The LORD your God, Which brought you out of the land of Egypt. 37. "Therefore shall ye observe all My Statutes, and all My Judgments, and do them: I am The LORD." DISREPECTING SENIORS AND STRANGERS DOES NOT JUSR MEAN THAT YOU WILL DERIVE NO SPIRITUAL BENEFIT FROM THEM: YOU WILL CEASE TO BE BLESSED BY GOD. Though you go to some favorite Teacher, having disrespected another you despise- even though he has violated no Commandment of God, GOD WILL NOT RESPOND. The OYINBO Atheists who complain that God does not manifest to them, and prove his Existence to them, are descendants of people who did very wicked things. If you mention this on FACEBOOK, they will ban you from posting for 30 days. . EXODUS 20:1-7. AND God Spake all these Words, Saying, 2. "I (am) The LORD thy God, Which have brought thee out of The Land of Egypt, out of The House of Bondage. 3. "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me. 4. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness (of any thing) that (is) in the Earth beneath, or that (is) in the Water under the Earth: 5. "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I The LORD thy God (am) a Jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the third and fourth (generation) of them that Hate Me. 6. "And shewing Mercy unto thousands of them which Love Me, and Keep My Commandments. 7. "Thou shalt not take The Name of The LORD thy God in vain; for The LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh His Name in vain." GOD HOLDS EVERY HUMAN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE INIQUITIES COMMITTED BY THEIR PARENTS, THEIR GRANDPARENTS, AND THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS. . NUMBERS 15:27-31. 27. "And if any man Sin through Ignorance, then he shall bring a She Goat of the first year for a Sin Offering. 28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement for the Soul that Sinneth Ignorantly, when he Sinneth by Ignorance before The LORD, to make an Atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him. 29. " Ye shall have one Law for him that Sinneth Ignorantly (both for) him that is born among the Children of Israel, and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them. 30. "But the Soul that doeth (ought) presumptuously, (whether he be) born in the land, or a Stranger, the same reproacheth The LORD; and that Soul shall be cut off from among his people. 31. "Because he hath despised The Word of The LORD, and hath broken His Commandment, that Soul shall utterly be cut off; his Iniquity (shall be) upon him." THERE IS NO ATONEMENT FOR INIQUITIES- THAT IS, DELIBERATELY-COMMITTED SINS. . DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9. NOW these are the Commandments, the Statutes, and the Judgments, Which The LORD your God Commanded to teach you, that ye might do Them in the land whither ye go to possess it: 2. That thou mightest fear The LORD thy God, to keep all his Statutes and His Commandments, Which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged. 3. Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do It; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as The LORD God of thy Fathers hath Promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey. 4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God with all thine Heart, and with all thy Soul, and with all thy Might. 6. And these Words, which I Command thee this Day, shall be in thine heart: 7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently unto thy Children, and shalt talk of Them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates. WHEN YOU COME TO LORD YESHUA, HE EXPECTS YOU TO COME SHOWING A PROFIT- DEVELOPMENT FROM THE STATE HIS GOSPEL ENCOUNTERED YOU IN. [quote author=oaroloye post=114666621] . THE TEN TALENTS. (Matthew 25:1-46.) 1. TOTAL RECALL. 2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. TELEKINESIS. 4. TELEPORTATION. 5. TRANSLATION. 6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE. [color=silver]. THE TEN POUNDS. (Luke 19:11-27.) 1. THE ABOVE; 2. THE BELOW. 3. THE EARTH; 4. THE NETHER REALMS. 5. FIRE; 6. WATER. 7. THE MOVING; 8. THE STATIONARY. 9. THE LOUD; 10. THE SILENT. [See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985).]. The above-average person may use no more than 10% of their Mind Consciously- because they were not raised from childhood appropriately. The Primary Purpose of THE TORAH and THE GOSPEL is to restore 100% Consciousness. . MATTHEW 25:13-30. 13. "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the Day nor the Hour wherein The Son of Man cometh. 14. "For The Kingdom of Heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. 15. "And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. 16. "Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. 17. "And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. 18. "But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money. 19. "After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. 20. "And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, 'LORD, THOU DELIVEREDST UNTO ME FIVE TALENTS: BEHOLD, I HAVE GAINED BESIDE THEM FIVE TALENTS MORE.' 21. "His lord said unto him, 'WELL DONE, THOU GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT: THOU HAST BEEN FAITHFUL OVER A FEW THINGS, I WILL MAKE THEE RULER OVER MANY THINGS: ENTER THOU INTO THE JOY OF THY LORD.' 22. "He also that had received two talents came and said, 'LORD, THOU DELIVEREDST UNTO ME TWO TALENTS: BEHOLD, I HAVE GAINED TWO OTHER TALENTS BESIDE THEM.' 23. "His lord said unto him, 'WELL DONE, GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT; THOU HAST BEEN FAITHFUL OVER A FEW THINGS, I WILL MAKE THEE RULER OVER MANY THINGS: ENTER THOU INTO THE JOY OF THY LORD.' 24. "Then he which had received the one talent came and said, 'LORD, I KNEW THEE THAT THOU ART AN HARD MAN, REAPING WHERE THOU HAST NOT SOWN, AND GATHERING WHERE THOU HAST NOT STRAWED: 25. AND I WAS AFRAID, AND WENT AND HID THY TALENT IN THE EARTH: LO, THERE THOU HAST THAT IS THINE.' 26. "His lord answered and said unto him, 'THOU WICKED AND SLOTHFUL SERVANT, THOU KNEWEST THAT I REAP WHERE I SOWED NOT, AND GATHER WHERE I HAVE NOT STRAWED: 27. 'THOU OUGHTEST THEREFORE TO HAVE PUT MY MONEY TO THE EXCHANGERS, AND THEN AT MY COMING I SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED MINE OWN WITH USURY. 28. 'TAKE THEREFORE THE TALENT FROM HIM, AND GIVE IT UNTO HIM WHICH HATH TEN TALENTS. 29. 'FOR UNTO EVERY ONE THAT HATH SHALL BE GIVEN, AND HE SHALL HAVE ABUNDANCE: BUT FROM HIM THAT HATH NOT SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY EVEN THAT WHICH HE HATH. 30. 'AND CAST YE THE UNPROFITABLE SERVANT INTO OUTER DARKNESS: THERE SHALL BE WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.' " If you are no more than 10% Conscious, you cannot succeed as a Christian, and are a failure as a Human Being. SATAN AND HIS DEVILS DO NOT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE: THEREFORE HE CANNOT TEACH IT TO HIS MINIONS AND STOOGES. They are FINITE Entities, who can DIE. He has survived this long by feeding off of Human Life Force tainted with FAILURE, SINFULNESS, and DEATH. Following MOSES and LORD YESHUA immunizes us against his Power, until he has no chance against us whatsoever. EVERLASTING LIFE can destroy him. |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 11:34am On Jul 23, 2022 |
Trevor007007: false jw 007 you keep calling me liar but cannot quote any of my lies your just a typical jw false accuser like your daddy the devil: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. false jw you can't reply to anything anyone say's you are just a weak name caller like lost mad max 1 Like |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:56am On Jul 23, 2022 |
johnw47:No wonder Trevor007007 said you stupidly accuse others of what you're guilty of. Do you remember how long you've been using the highlighted against me? Well it's over 3 years now whereas it's only due to discussion about faith and nothing more. Back then you even trail me to other threads and calling me names so don't pretend you're wise because you're the most stupid of them all! |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 12:19pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool false jw mad max ,all you habitual liars are so dum the reason i call you "mad max" is because it's true, you are mad you claimed you a military intelligence officer and could beat six fully armed military combatants single handed you said for all to read that your wife loves to play with you dic, etc etc etc. lost false jw mad max you are as mad as they come and you lie like hell repeating your lies over and over again while knowing that God hates lies/a false witness like yourself: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:57pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
johnw47:The reason why i call you useless, worthless and hopeless is because that's exactly what you are if you can't answer the question but always typing gibberish just to respond to JWs! |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by johnw47: 1:02pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost false jw mad max the reason you keep calling me names is because that's what you false jw's do when replying to truth see how you can never stop lying oh dum one: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:20pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
johnw47: The reason you keep calling me names is because you don't have the answer to the question! |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by Emusan(m): 4:41pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Are you ready to take up my challenge on this? I will create a thread specifically for this! only does three things on this forum, it's whether telling Deeperlife News, Stylishly asking questions regarding what Kumuyi don't know or attacking Jehovah's Witnesses. You You're like your father the Devil, the false accuser of the brethren. A little searh about my account on this forum would've helped you but since you're just a son of your father the Devil and self lying liar acclaimed intelligence officer. Me and Atheists, Muslims, Pagan e.t.c had discussed on various issues on this forum but you can open your mouth to boldly lie. Well it's the seed of your father the Devil that is manifesting in you. And if you're so confident in what you're saying then just say yes, you're ready to take up my challenge on this. 2 Likes |
| Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:15pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
Emusan: There's nothing in your brains OLAADEGBU! If you're not OLAADEGBU answer the question instead of engaging me because everyone here knows that i'll lock you up in a box with the scriptures. So answer the question: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? That's the only way you can prove that you're a different person not stupid arguments when the topic is left unattended to! |
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