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Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by iswallker(m): 10:19pm On Jul 27, 2022
Quintopia:


SHUT UP. Why should the government use public funds to buy aircraft for a non-government owned and run airline, or indeed for any airline?

Once the maths is right, and it must be, then they are right to lease the aircraft, since the payment is made through earnings and profits of the airline, rather than public funds.

MUMU PEOPLE. THOUGHTLESS. ONLY FULL OF CRITICISM.




49% majority govt owned shares - God knows who will buy 51%

Anyway hadi sirika is nkt floating any airline - few months to go - he won't go beyond launching logo of Nigeria Air

It's really DOA

undecided
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by Quintopia: 10:19pm On Jul 27, 2022
ZombieSlayer1:

You just sounded like a dummy while thinking you''re sounding smart. It takes years of planning blablabla, but Green Airlines launched their airlines and are making domestic flights, Airpeace is making both domestic and international flights. It takes years of planning but with the billions of naira available to them, the best the government can do is to look towards leasing airlines. If Air Peace, green air etc can do it, why can't the government of a country even with the billions of naira at their disposal?
Aren't you tired of defending mediocrity of this government?

USE YOUR FCKING BRAIN.

Do you even know what the annual budget of this country is?

Why should the govt use limited public funds to go and start buying commercial aircraft?

Do you think the senate will approve of that spending?

Or your thick skull doesn't know such purchases need senate approval?

The airline is only half-owned by the govt, so why should they use public funds to buy commercial aircraft?

And quit comparing it to mushroom airlines and asking why the latter could establish so quickly. You are not a two year old.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by UNDFTD: 10:19pm On Jul 27, 2022
iswallker:


Is this good news - or you just want to clown around

undecided

Don't mind them. This is NOT the first time the Fulani Government of Liegeria had floated such idea and nothing came off it. It is one of their shenanigans during election time.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by ZombieSlayer1: 10:20pm On Jul 27, 2022
Quintopia:


SHUT UP. Why should the government use public funds to buy aircraft for a non-government owned and run airline, or indeed for any airline?

Once the maths is right, and it must be, then they are right to lease the aircraft, since the payment is made through earnings and profits of the airline, rather than public funds.

MUMU PEOPLE. THOUGHTLESS. ONLY FULL OF CRITICISM.

You keep sounding more stupid with every word you make. The government can't use public fund to buy airlines that the public can use, but they can use public fund to buy private jets that they themselves can use, right?
Are they using the airlines for charity? people won't pay to use them? The Airline is "Nigeria AIr", it's a national carrier and it's government owned.
People like you tend to reason through their anus in their quest to defend foolishness but you tend to come out as a simpleton. Defending foolishness must be a full-time job for you
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by Quintopia: 10:24pm On Jul 27, 2022
ZombieSlayer1:

You keep sounding more stupid with every word you make. The government can't use public fund to buy airlines that the public can use, but they can use public fund to buy private jets that they themselves can use, right?
Are they using the airlines for charity? people won't pay to use them? The Airline is "Nigeria AIr", it's a national carrier and it's government owned.
People like you tend to reason through their anus in their quest to defend foolishness but you tend to come out as a simpleton. Defending foolishness must be a full-time job for you

DUMBO. Nigeria Air is not a govt-owned airline!!

They cannot use public funds to buy aircraft!

It is akin to a PPP (Public-Private Partnership) arrangement.

''In 2017, the Nigerian government announced it will invest US$5 million in the venture. However, the Minister for State Aviation, Hadi Sirika, insists that the airline will be privately-operated. "It is a business, not a social service. The government will not be involved in running it or deciding who runs it. The investors will have full responsibility for this." According to a tweet by Tolu Ogunlesi, a Nigerian government communications official, the government will not own more than 5% of the airline.''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria_Air

PHEW!
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by ZombieSlayer1: 10:25pm On Jul 27, 2022
Quintopia:


USE YOUR FCKING BRAIN.

Do you even know what the annual budget of this country is?

Why should the govt use limited public funds to go and start buying commercial aircraft?

Do you think the senate will approve of that spending?

Or your thick skull doesn't know such a purchase needs senate approval?

The airline is only half-owned by the govt, so why should they use public funds to buy commercial aircraft?

And quit comparing it to mushroom airlines and asking why the latter could establish so quickly. You are not a two year old.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/499852-efcc-charges-ex-army-chief-others-with-n13-billion-fraud.html
This is 13billion naira stolen.

https://www.thecable.ng/yuletide-air-peace-acquires-two-new-aircraft-to-boost-operations Air peace bought these two Airbus A320 airliners.
A320 costs between $77M and $129M but your so-called mushroom airline bought two.

Keep defending foolishness
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by ZombieSlayer1: 10:26pm On Jul 27, 2022
Quintopia:


DUMBO. Nigeria Air is not a govt-owned airline!!

They cannot use public funds to buy aircraft!

It is akin to a PPP (Public-Private Partnership) arrangement.

''In 2017, the Nigerian government announced it will invest US$5 million in the venture. However, the Minister for State Aviation, Hadi Sirika, insists that the airline will be privately-operated. "It is a business, not a social service. The government will not be involved in running it or deciding who runs it. The investors will have full responsibility for this." According to a tweet by Tolu Ogunlesi, a Nigerian government communications official, the government will not own more than 5% of the airline.''
Isn't that the same thing they said about NNPC?
You need a brain check

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria_Air

PHEW!
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by Quintopia: 10:28pm On Jul 27, 2022
ZombieSlayer1:

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/499852-efcc-charges-ex-army-chief-others-with-n13-billion-fraud.html
This is 13billion naira stolen.

https://www.thecable.ng/yuletide-air-peace-acquires-two-new-aircraft-to-boost-operations Air peace bought these two Airbus A320 airliners.
A320 costs between $77M and $129M but your so-called mushroom airline bought two.

Keep defending foolishness

The fact that you know such an amount was stolen is a sign of progress. In decades past, you wouldn't even know.

The thief will repay the money, so that is no excuse to say the FG must buy and run commercial aircraft.

If you had a clue how Nigeria Airways went, you would be happy with the current arrangement involving the private sector.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by SunnyDS(m): 10:28pm On Jul 27, 2022
Hmmm
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by ZeroChil: 10:34pm On Jul 27, 2022
ijustdey:
The Federal Executive Council (FEC) has given an approval to Nigeria Air to lease aircraft to start operations. The Minister of Aviation, Senator Hadi...




https://dailytrust.com/just-in-nigeria-air-to-lease-aircraft-for-commencement-of-operations-sirika

Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by TWoods(m): 11:03pm On Jul 27, 2022
blamingthedevil:
God Bless Aviation Minister
God Bless President Buhari
God Bless Incoming President Bola Ahmed Tinubu
God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria

Which serious national airline starts operations with three leased aircraft? Nigeria is a joke.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by NigeriaEngineer(m): 11:26pm On Jul 27, 2022
God bless them for leasing aircraft for operations? Just tell me one reason why God must bless them or dont you understand?
blamingthedevil:
God Bless Aviation Minister
God Bless President Buhari
God Bless Incoming President Bola Ahmed Tinubu
God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by DaddyGngeess(m): 11:33pm On Jul 27, 2022
blamingthedevil:
God Bless Aviation Minister
God Bless President Buhari
God Bless Incoming President Bola Ahmed Tinubu
God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria




Smile, anyway devil self get followers too shall
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by PROUDIGBO(m): 11:42pm On Jul 27, 2022
ZombieNation:
Why in God's name is the FG floating an airline when their major cash cow in the form of NNPC has been sold?

What is the rational behind selling all major airports to China only to float another useless govt company that will be competing against private sector that pays taxes to maintain the useless govt?

This is mad cow disease. Instead of concentrating on the fresh lawn, the cow is now nibbling on it's own tail.

To whose benefit will this soon to be declared failed and bankrupt enterprise serve if not for the same corrupt govt officials who will run it down before giving themselves tax breaks to suffocate private airlines out of existence?

The foolishness and greed of Nigerian govt officials knows no bounds.

You have to be really clued-on to understand the way Buhari and his sidekick Sirika think! The two have a Fulani supremacist mindset and are chronically anti-Igbo! They are bristling with hate and anger that a Igbo man owns the largest airline in West Africa, and they’re trying to codedly find a way to undercut his dominance of the sector by floating this DOA Nigeria Air….or whatever they call it! They can’t be so overt about this as Allen Onyema has been quite subservient and respectful enough to the ruling Fulani hegemony, so they have to do it codedly!

Ask yourself, if the Buhari gov’t is that desperate to participate in the aviation business, why not approach Air Peace to buy a 20% stake in his business like they did with Dangote refinery when the miraculously managed to find a couple of billions of dollars to buy into the refinery!? Ask yourself why, till today, they couldn’t be assed to finish the new international terminal building at AIIA, Enugu, like they’ve done with the ones in Kano, Abuja, Lagos and Port Harcourt!?

They have this conquering mindset not just for territory, but for the political-economy of Nigeria as well! They’re using the few months they have left in office (they’re probably not a 100% sure another Fulani will take over in 2023) to ensure they control all the commanding heights of the economy, and where they find they can’t control any sector, and a Igbo is the leader in said sector, they will use underhand/coded tactics to try and frustrate the Igbo man’s business! You’ve seen them do this with INNOSON and Air Peace owners in the past!

SEPLAT is the leading indigenous player in the oil and gas sector….FACT! And the coy has a major (if not majority) Igbo presence in its ownership structure Notice how the Buhari gov’t has put the breaks on SEPLATs attempts to buy the onshore assets of MOBIL (i think it’s MOBIL), and industry players are still scratching their heads at this obvious anti-Nigerian position of the gov’t! Their actions stand in stark contrast to how they’re falling over themselves to support and prop up Dangote and his businesses!

Few months back, 5G licences were sold to coys in the telecommunications sector. MTN was one of the successful bidders….as was expected! What wasn’t expected was that a newly formed coy will emerge from nowhere and be able to garner the required funds and expertise to be able to ‘win’ their bid as well…purportedly presenting a ‘better’ bid than GLO! When i say these people are positioning themselves to take over and control the entire commanding heights of the Nigerian economy, this is what i mean!

Also, few months back, Union Bank was taken over by a newly formed little finance coy that doesn’t even have the assets to buy out such a large bank as Union! I don’t have my facts on this, but i’ll wager the ruling hegemony were in the shadows calling the shots! Remember, they control a lot of sectors, but they’re yet to own/control a FIRST TIER BANK!

The rest of Nigeria are either to trusting and naive to realise what these people are up to….or they’ve just resigned themselves to be 2nd class citizens in their own country so long as the ‘okoros’ are getting a worse deal!
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by holywind(m): 12:00am On Jul 28, 2022
JAMO84:
It's not about Boko Haram or bandits killing people, Mpurumirin addicts ( Not all Igbo) and other wailing losers will recuse themselves from this news.
even when they want to lease the plane, it's a shame that country like Nigeria don't have single airplane to it name

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by Quintopia: 12:11am On Jul 28, 2022
TWoods:


Which serious national airline starts operations with three leased aircraft? Nigeria is a joke.

There aren't actually that many national airlines in existence, and most developed nations don't have them, so you're talking rubbish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government-owned_airlines

There is no 'set formula' for forming an airline. It all depends on meeting the interests of all stakeholders.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by shegun4sur: 12:12am On Jul 28, 2022
Esseite:
If private run Airline like Dana, Aero, Arik companies are closing up due to crass incompetence of this Government, how do you think leased Govt planes can compete, are you going to subsidize air-rates and aviation fuel aswell..

Sirika, you just want to create an avenue to steal simple.


Instead of the inept government to support those that are already in the business for expansion and solidification, they are making imaginary mirage moves. Very stupid set of leaders Nigeria is cursed with at all levels

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by NwokoloOwa: 12:14am On Jul 28, 2022
Foolish Minister. You've been saying this same thing for over three yrs. Very Foolish overated man

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by Quintopia: 12:14am On Jul 28, 2022
shegun4sur:



Instead of the inept government to support those that are already in the business for expansion and solidification, they are making imaginary mirage moves. Very stupid set of leaders Nigeria is cursed with at all levels

Shut up. Nothing wrong in having a national carrier.

Nothing ''imaginary'' about it either.

Plus maybe the govt has other priorities than using public funds to ''support'' billionaire airline founders to get richer'? MUMU!
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by gaskiyamagana: 12:18am On Jul 28, 2022
Liability debt to start a company, liability capital to run it and bankruptcy to fold it up.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by Quintopia: 12:20am On Jul 28, 2022
holywind:
even when they want to lease the plane, it's a shame that country like Nigeria don't have single airplane to it name

The USA hasn't got ''a single airplane to its name''.

They have no national carrier.

So what's your point?
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by JAMO84: 12:34am On Jul 28, 2022
ZombieSlayer1:


Are you not ashamed of yourself? a so-called "giant of Africa" is leasing aircraft and you're jumping upandan in happiness. Air Peace bought all their aircraft and a whole country is looking to lease and you think that's something to celebrate about?
The funds they wasted in unveiling the logo 2 years ago would've been enough to buy 1 aircraft but they had to steal it in the name of launching a logo.
You're pathetic
I would have been surprised if you say something positive

Negativity has been the bane of your life in the last 7.5 years, and I doubt whether it will stop anytime soon
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by cosmatika(m): 12:38am On Jul 28, 2022
blamingthedevil:
God Bless Aviation Minister
God Bless President Buhari
God Bless Incoming President Bola Ahmed Tinubu
God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria
Thunder fire all the ppl you mentioned, plus you that mentioned them
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by nighthawk1: 12:48am On Jul 28, 2022
This project is neither feasible nor viable given current events both in the aviation sector and globally.

1. We can't afford to borrow unless they want to use it to loot the loans proposed.

2. Its in USD and you will be billing in a depreciating Naira.

3. All spares are imported

4. Aviation fuel is scarce presently

5. Aviation fuel is presently costly and Airlines are approaching the peak they can charge for a one hour flight or average of six hour flight globally.

6. If its a level playing field then Passengers are not expecting any form of subsidy as that is over with in most sectors.

7. Since this looks more like national pride and advertisement than service. You can advertise on the bodies of existing commercial airlines.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by TWoods(m): 12:52am On Jul 28, 2022
Quintopia:


There aren't actually that many national airlines in existence, and most developed nations don't have them, so you're talking rubbish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government-owned_airlines

There is no 'set formula' for forming an airline. It all depends on meeting the interests of all stakeholders.

This is a silly comeback... borne out of obduracy than anything else. A nation with the wealth like Nigeria should not be starting an entire flag carrier with 3 aircraft, all of which are going to be leased. Hadi Sirika has been telling us, in his capacity as aviation minister, that the government is set to launch Nigeria Air since 2017. 5 years after, all we are expecting is 3 lease aircraft?

Reading Sirika's briefing yesterday makes you want to weep in sorrow for Nigeria... it is abundantly clear that he has no clue what he is talking about... read along:

“We have said in our outline business case, which was earlier approved, that we are starting with three aircraft for the first instance and then we progress.

Why 3 aircraft? Capacity? Routes?

We will have a mixture of Airbus and Boeings because every airline that will grow big uses the two,” he said.

This shows the horrific incompetence of a man who has been our aviation minister for more than 4 years with nothing to show for it. Someone remind him that not every airline "that will grow big" uses Boeing or Airbus. Many regional airlines in the US have a fleet that is largely made up of Embraer aircraft.

Mr Sirika said Nigeria Air will start with domestic flights before expanding to international routes.

No kidding... what did he expect?

“We will start with domestic flights and then we grow to become international and then we move to become regional and intercontinental.

This takes the cake... if you fly Lagos to New York, you've technically flown both international and intercontinental. Flying regional assumes flying to neighboring African countries... well that's the same thing as flying international. Alhaji Sirika has no business shepherding a government agency in charge of developing an airline.

On Wednesday, the FEC also approved N707. 9 million for the procurement of investigation tools for Nigeria’s Accident Investigation Bureau (AIB).

The AIB investigates accidents involving aircraft across Nigeria.

Mr Sirika said the tool, when procured, will aid investigations, whenever an aircraft is involved in an accident in any part of Nigeria.

“The memo was for the deployment of an investigation tool by the Accident Investigation Bureau (AIB). That tool permits the AIB to be able to record going-ons in flights; God forbid, should there be a need to investigate an accident, or a serious incident and the tool will help them to do so.

Perhaps Alhaji Sirika has never heard that all aircraft carry 2 black boxes? How was this guy ever appointed a minister of anything?

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by Quintopia: 1:29am On Jul 28, 2022
TWoods:


This is a silly comeback... borne out of obduracy than anything else. A nation with the wealth like Nigeria should not be starting an entire flag carrier with 3 aircraft, all of which are going to be leased. Hadi Sirika has been telling us, in his capacity as aviation minister, that the government is set to launch Nigeria Air since 2017. 5 years after, all we are expecting is 3 lease aircraft?

Your own 'point' is based on nothing but foolish ego and 'prestige', as is usual with most nairalanders steeped in shallowness, rather than common sense and rationality.

So for you it is ''How can a nation with the wealth of Nigeria blah blah blah''.

WHAT WEALTH?

Our annual budget is 35 billion dollars for 200 million people.

Contrast that with the US annual budget of 7.6 trillion dollars for only a slightly larger population.

Or the UK's 2.2 trillion annual budget for its 70 million people.

Or France's 1.9 trillion.

So what ''wealth'' are you talking about? The oil and gas income is a pittance set against our needs.

It will be foolhardy and extremely profligate for a govt with such a tiny budget to expend the money on commercial aircraft purchases where there are other options, and it will never meet senate approval.

So they start by leasing 3 aircraft and move on from there, in a public/private partnership arrangement where private investors are the main funders, and earnings from their initial operations can fund expansion.

That is the rational, sensible option.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by 9jaRealist: 2:11am On Jul 28, 2022
cenaman:
Oh Nigeria my country.

Who do we offend? A country like Nigeria doesn't have a national airline.

Nigeria does NOT need a “national airline”?!
How many advanced economies have a national airline?

Why is the government effectively competing with the private sector?
Instead of wasting money on a VANITY national airline, designate private airlines as flag carriers.
>

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by Ogchase33: 2:23am On Jul 28, 2022
All those Dana and Aero aircrafts right? I weep for this country
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by Kingspin(m): 2:26am On Jul 28, 2022
blamingthedevil:
God Bless Aviation Minister
God Bless President Buhari
God Bless Incoming President Bola Ahmed Tinubu
God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria
Rebot, Have you taken the time to look yourself in the mirror?

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by Quintopia: 2:31am On Jul 28, 2022
9jaRealist:


Nigeria does NOT need a “national airline”?!
How many advanced economies have a national airline?

Why is the government effectively competing with the private sector?

The airline is a private sector - led operation, so the govt is not competing with anyone.

Instead of wasting money on a VANITY national airline, designate private airlines as flag carriers.

Easy to type that from your basement.

What happens if they fall short of acceptable standards?

They will be flying our flag and disgracing us abi?

The current arrangement - a public-private partnership based national carrier, is the ideal approach going forward.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Nigeria Air To Lease Aircraft For Commencement Of Operations by sulaak(m): 2:45am On Jul 28, 2022
ThinkSmarter:
The government should invest more in rail transport.
It will reduce road transport and local flights and bring much revenue to the government.
It's very profitable and easy to maintain.

Nigeria is not secured for rail transport.

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