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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Lukuluku69(m): 7:45pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Open and read the link. When you are done, read John 1:1,2,3,4 and tell us what you think. Please note that Philo has been this idea decades before the Gospels were written. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/philo/#PoweGodLogo 1 Like |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Kobojunkie: 7:46pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist:1. God never commanded your churches/assemblies to begin with so how can that which was not decreed of God be of God? Your churches are nothing but businesses, an industry similar to every other industry out there in the world even today, only that the services sold to you by your churches come with the name of God affixed to them, this without His permission mind you. 2. You people don't pay attention at all. Jesus Christ clearly explained using Parable, the parable of wheat and tares - Matthew 13 vs 24 - 30", and clear speech as well - Matthew 13 vs 34 - 43- that all of the enemies of God will continue unhindered until the very end when the weeds will be harvested first and thrown into the place of fire. So what "wrath of God" are you mouthing off about abeg? 3. Please stop abeg! |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 7:47pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Maynman: Rome subjected Christians to horrible deaths and had a law mandating torturous killing of any person professing Christianity. What ended up happening?? Mention another instance where that happened in human history without firing a shot! |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Kobojunkie: 7:49pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Lukuluku69:Again, the question is simple. From what passage of Philo of Alexandria's work was that statement lifted from by John? Where? |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 7:50pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist: Who are these Chrestians that rome was killing? because they were criminals. Tell me please what “ended up happening?” When happened to rome? In what century?
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 8:03pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: 1. Pray tell if God is not concerned with people and institutions who are all about worship of Him and propagation of His name, what is He concerned with? 2. You are the one not paying attention. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN TOLD TO VIEW THINGS AS A WHOLE? TO STOP ISOLATING VERSES AND SCENARIOS TO MAKE A POINT? Christ clearly said the test of time would prove which of these things are authentic. Different if these things happened yesterday. They happened over two thousand years ago. How many "Christs" and "messiahs" have come up since then? Where are they and their worshippers today?? 3. Exactly. You can't bear hearing it because it is true. You are marking yourself a person who DOES NOT believe in a God that interfers in human affairs - an atheist! |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Kobojunkie: 8:14pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist:1. Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear to you that it is only those who love Him - those who obey His teachings and commandments - that His love is meant for - John 14 vs 15 - 20 and John 15 vs 10 - 11. 1. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover festival. Jesus knew that the time had come for him to leave this world and go back to the Father. Jesus had always loved the people in the world who were his. Now was the time he showed them his love the most. - John 13 vs 1Jesus Christ Himself states that His love exists for those who obey Him. 9 “I have loved you as the Father has loved me. Now continue in my love.2. So, never mind that they were clearly designated weeds by Jesus Christ from the moment they were planted in the field, you instead insist, against Jesus Christ, that time is what will tell whether they are weeds or not? This kain mindset of yours dem no dey buy am for market at all.... 3. I am sorry, what? Are you trying to have us believe here that because some have failed in impersonating Jesus Christ Himself over time, we are then to believe, against Jesus Christ mind you, those who Jesus Christ fingered as false teachers and false prophets in the Kingdom of God are not in fact His enemies? |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 8:20pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Maynman: I hope I'm not dealing with a mentally ill.person. See below
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 8:24pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist: I hope I’m not dealing with a mentally ill person too?. “Christianity” conquered rome by preaching the gospel lol. Who were the first Chrestians? Do you know who “eusebius” is?
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 8:36pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: 1. Whoever taught you this "those who obey His teachings and commandments" did not do you any favors because you can't see beyond it, and come what may that's the only thing you know. Pray tell, which of Christ’s commandments are you keeping? Turn the other cheek, or give the person who steals your coat you shirt also, or one about looking at women, etc. Which one? 2. Christ said many, many things and many parables. Taking everything together you'd know that what He meant was that TIME would expose and uproot the weeds, the inauthentic - and that's exactly what happens. No church or even doctrine not backed by God thrives. They eventually fade away 3. No. 3 is about you marking yourself an atheist. I think you are becoming confused |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 8:41pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist: I hope I'm not dealing with a mentally ill.person? Look at eusebius the forger, one of the early church fathers that created the New Testament you are carrying now. Was it this eusebius that told you rome was conquered? Lol
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 8:41pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Maynman: Confirmed, I'm dealing with someone with some mental ish. Google Christianity conquest of Rome. By bye |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 8:44pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist: You don’t know what you are talking you are the brainwashed and indoctrinated sheep. Where did the early church fathers get their source of New Testament from? You sent a link of eusebius recounting how Christians fared in rome, shouldn’t you know more about this “eusebius”? It’s obvious you lack knowledge of what you are basing your whole life on. Bye bye sheep!
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 8:47pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist: I’ve googled it and it brought this. Do you know who emperor Constantine is and his influence in NICENE CHRISTIANITY? Is this how Christianity “conquered” rome? Bwahahahah Ignorant sheep
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 8:49pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Maynman: Sorry I didn't see your quote before I wrote. Since you can Google Eusebius, why not also Google Christianity conquest of Rome so you don't keep making a fool of yourself |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Kobojunkie: 8:50pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist:1. Jesus Christ gave His followers about 100 commandments which are written all through the Gospels. If only you would take time to read His teachings, you would maybe then understand why He insisted that those who are His friends, those who love Him, are only those who obey His teachings and commandments. This, of course, if you at least believe Jesus Christ is who you claim Him to be, your savior. 2. Again with the tactics of discarding what is said because many other things were also said... the delusion is instead strong with you!. So, because Jesus Christ spoke many other parables, we should throw out completely the lessons from each and every parable spoken by Him? And after that we will still be left with His clear words were He also insists that those who are evil are not of Him, but seems you already want that thrown out too until there is nothing left that was said of Jesus Christ in this.... that is what the foundation of your churches is built on, lies and not God's Truth, right? 3. Marking myself as an athiest? Even an slowpoke can clearly tell that I am Jesus Christ-junkie just from my utterances alone, so I don't need labels to justify me in any way. |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 8:50pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist: You are the one making a fool of yourself and too brainwashed to notice. I guess this is your first time reading about it. You’ve always been shouting “Christianity conquered rome” explain how, na wahala How did “Christianity” conquered rome? By becoming an official religion of the romans By the order of Constantine. Do you know the influence of Constantine on NICENE CHRISTIANITY? Think for yourself na
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 8:58pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Maynman: Exactly. So what's your point? (BTW, ok, you are not totally mentally deranged) |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 9:00pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Obafavour:Sir,2 questions require your response: Oga, which believer in your Bible was baptised as it is listed in Matthew 28:19? Oga,who is the first,2nd & 3rd person of your Trinity? Are 3 persons one entity? Obafavour:Oga,1 John 5:7 KJV is NOT holy scripture. 1 John 5:7 is a FRAUD inserted into 16th Textus Receptus manuscript from which KJV Bible was translated. Please find out how Erasmus Desiderius did that. Obafavour:John 17:21-22, Jesus says God ,the believer & Jesus are one. Therefore, your claim on John 10:30 , Jesus refuted that. Obafavour:Greek John1:1, Greek John4:24, Greek John14:1, ho Theos (the God, his Father is Almighty God. John 1:1, John wrote Jesus was divine,a god, god-like. @ John 10:33, John the apostle wrote that Jesus was a god but your mentors DUBIOUSLY capitalize it. Screenshot evidences Obafavour:Yes. John 17:17,"your word (God's word is truth" is not a being. (Compare Hebrews 4:12). John 1:1 the word is a spirit being.
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 9:06pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist: Who are the early Chrestians? Do you know about the influence of Constantine and nicene creed on the Christianity you have now? Or you think it becoming the official religion of ROMANS is a coincidence? Where did the early church fathers get their source of New Testament from? Who are the “Chrestians” in rome that eusebius the forger was talking about? You are basing your WHOLE life on a book without knowing its source? Only a metally deranged person like you will do that
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:08pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Janosky: They already have the August visitor with them so let them preach their trinity to him i'm sure he will reset their brains by the time he reveals the origin of their trinity to them! 1 Like |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 9:10pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: 1. Certain "commandments" were mentioned and you were specifically asked which of them you obey. 2. Sometimes contradictory things are said. That's why you need to look at EVERYTHING. If you do, the right answer would be obvious. 3. Many atheists are Jesus junkies - they have encyclopedic knowledge of Him. But, like you, they don't believe there exists a God that interfers in human affairs |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 9:13pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Obafavour:Greek John1:1 "In beginning was the Word,(a) The word was with the God,(b) and the Word was divine,a god. (c). Greek 1510 Greek 2316 is the last sentence of Acts 28:6 & John 1:1. But some people conspired to TWIST it @John1:1. Greek 1510 Greek 2316 is NOT written in 2 ways. Sahidic Coptic Bible ,Emphatic Diaglott Bible & NWT have the authentic rendition of John 1:1.. |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Kobojunkie: 9:14pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist:1. I obey all, not certain "commandments", of Jesus Christ's commandments and teachings, God's New agreement and Covenant in the Kingdom of God, of which you don't seem aware of. 2. You are actually insinuating Jesus Christ contradicted Himself sometimes meaning Jesus Christ is not in fact God's Truth as He claimed? 3. Sure, and many of those atheists you claim to know also obey Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments, I get it. |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 9:18pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:There were many stories mixed in the New Testament. “Jesus Chrestus” name never existed untill it was later added. And hope you know “jesus Chrestus” is different from “jesus of nazareth” that’s why gospel writers differs in their stories Bwahahahah
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 9:19pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Obafavour:Is one entity listed as First, Second & third person? Acts 3:13, Is Abraham, Isaac and Jacob the same entity? Which school did you learn that He means Triune? |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 9:23pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Obafavour: Which believer in your Bible was "baptising them in the name of the Father,son and holy spirit?" E no dey at all !!!!!! John 10:30= John 17:21-22, no be rocket science. 1 Like |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 9:26pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:English translation of John 1:1 is very deceptive. The Greek & Latin version of John 1:1 is very crystal clearly different. The Word was facing towards the God. Greek John 4:24,Greek John 14:1 &Greek John 1:1 , John wrote that Jesus calls the God "ho Theos" his Father. The last words of Greek Acts 28:6 is the same last words of Greek John 1:1. The same words, the same meaning. FACT !. |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Kobojunkie: 9:37pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Janosky:Please stop spamming me with what is obviously bullsheet abeg!
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 9:39pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: 1) When was the last time someone slapped your sister and you gave her the other one to slap or someone stole your tire and you gave them your car? 2) Of course, the way they came down to us, after a the oral traditions and translations. Example: "whoever is not with us is against us" contradicts "whoever us not against us is with us" 3) If you don't believe God interferes in human affairs, that belief is indistinguishable from atheism |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Kobojunkie: 9:49pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
PoliteActivist:1. Never! I have never been a violent individual to begin with so what you describe is ridiculous reasoning to me. As for someone stealing my tire and I in turn give my car to the same, I suggest you carefully read what is written there in Matthew 5 vs 38 - 48 so you clearly understand how what you have there makes no sense as far as what is in fact written. 2. You have never actually read the Gospel for yourself to begin with is the reason why not only do you believe it full of contradictions, you also believe Jesus Christ is a liar and instead the idea of Him you eat of from your pastors and mogs is the correct Jesus Christ instead. How are you any different from the other church/assembly groups you battle here? 3. God interferes in human affairs? You desperately seek to rationalize that which is obviously antiChrist by any means you can, don't you? So far you have conveniently thrown Jesus Christ under the bus by claiming His teachings are contradictory, now you plan to rope God into proclaiming your churches are of Jesus Christ because God interferes in human affairs? |
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 10:06pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Your claim is NOT true. I have 5 questions for you: Is Greek 1510 Greek 2316 the same last words @ John 1:1 & Acts 28:6? What are the meanings of Greek 2316? In your own Bible ,anywhere Greek 2316 is not referring to the Almighty how is Greek 2316 rendered? What is correct rendition of Greek 2316 @ John 10:33 ? Would John contradict himself @ John 10:33 & John 1:1? Oga, please respond. We must check something. |
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