Watermelon:
For IVF costs:

If she is going to carry the baby by herself using her egg and donor sperm, an average cost per cycle is 1.5m

If she will carry the baby herself using donor egg and donor sperm, average cost is 1.75m per cycle

If she is going to use a surrogate mother with her (op) own egg, and donor sperm, average cost is 3.4m, for one baby. She will pay a bit more for multiples(twins, triplets, quadruplets) per cycle

IVF with sex selection, 5m and above.

In all, let her prepare herself spiritually, emotionally, financially and in fact all ramifications because none of the options: adoption, insemination, ivf comes easy.

Wow! This right here is exactly the type of information I needed. Now I can tell her these options and she can decide on what she wants by herself. You’ve been a great help. Thank you

Acidosis:


Like sex, the probability she'll be pregnant is less than 25% per each cycle (300k), so it's best to prepare the cost of 3-4 cycles - 900k - 1.2m to improve her chances.

This is the issue. I always thought it was always married couples who couldn’t have kids due to one issue or another that always went for this ivf method, I’ve never heard of a single woman going for it before. Plus the expenses involved is just woah. Thanks for your input

Kobojunkie:
She is not going in as a foster parent. She said she is adopting the child meaning she gains full parental rights over the child in question.

Functional womb? Even nature does not force anything on a woman because she has what you call a "functional womb". The choice is the woman's whether to use said "functional womb" or not. And as she has made clear to you, she would rather not use said "functional womb" for what you think it ought to be used for , so let her be.

I read all your submissions and just got surprised at the above bolded sentence.

Please oh, apart from conceiving and carrying a child is there any other purpose you think a ‘functional’ womb is used for? I’m just asking because from the way you wrote it’s as if women could have other uses for wombs in general

lilkech:
I read all your submissions and just got surprised at the above bolded sentence.

Please oh, apart from conceiving and carrying a child is there any other purpose you think a ‘functional’ womb is used for? I’m just asking because from the way you wrote it’s as if women could have other uses for wombs in general

A "functional womb" can exist as nature installed it, for processing of a woman's what is her ovarian cycles and nothing else.

Watermelon:
People talk about legal adoption in Nigeria as if it is an easy process. It is actually easier and faster, even with several attempts, to have a baby through IVF or insemination than with legal adoption. The average time for completion of legal adoption in Nigeria is 5 - 7 years and one may get nothing at the end. Over 98% of children in Nigerian orphanage homes, with the exception of those with severe disability, were deliberately kept there by their parents or guardians for different reasons pending when they return to pick them up. Most adoptee parents now go through the backdoor of getting from baby factories.

At over 40 years of age, she can try all the above simultaneously. She should have in mind that after 40 years of age the chances of achieving pregnancy with natural insemination (sex/fornication), articial insemination, IVF with her own egg are very very low. Using donor eggs from younger donors can improve her IVF chances.

Abi oo, I have been involved in this adoption waka with my aunt who had two failed IV, most kids weren’t up for adoption. There was always a story “the mother died and the father works offshore, the mother ran mad etc”.

Plus can a Single person adopt a child in Nigeria??

HeyHey:
Abi oo, I have been involved in this adoption waka with my aunt who had two failed IV, most kids weren’t up for adoption. There was always a story “the mother died and the father works offshore, the mother ran mad etc”.

Plus can a Single person adopt a child in Nigeria??

in a country with over 8 million homeless children, majority of them orphans, you expect us to believe there are practically none of them available for adoption? Abeg talk better...

Yes, a single person can adopt a child in that same Nigeria.

lilkech:
Okay, so we know women have a time frame to get pregnant due to their natural body systems and I have a career relative who is in her early 40’s but unmarried and without kids.

This my sister is considering adopting a child but I’m advising her against it instead imploring on her to get a guy to get her pregnant (assuming there’s nothing wrong with her womb) and she raises the kid as her own the natural way but she’s adverse to my opinion due to her highly religious inclination saying ‘it’s against her faith to bear a child out of wedlock’ meanwhile time is ticking against her body.

Am I advising her wrongly? I need a wider audience and mature advice concerning this topic please.

president of womb watchers. Get a life dude!

Adesuwag:
president of womb watchers. Get a life dude!

ROFLMAO

Kobojunkie:
in a country with over 8 million homeless children, majority of them orphans, you expect us to believe there are practically none of them available for adoption? Abeg talk better...

Yes, a single person can adopt a child in that same Nigeria.

Nigeria never ceases to amaze, full of surprises. The day you will touch any of those homeless children is the name of adopting or fostering them is the day you will realize that they have parents or guardians and that government and law enforcement agents have their eyes on them and waiting for preys. Some TTC couples have gone to prison because of this. I hope you remember the story of the Kano homeless children who were taken off the street to the East and settled in good homes there, death sentence was prescribed for the foster parents.

Legal adoption in Nigeria looks so easy when being discussed, but the actual process itself is quite draining.

Kobojunkie:
A "functional womb" can exist as nature installed it, for processing of a woman's what is her ovarian cycles and nothing else.

If that’s your opinion then wouldn’t it be convenient to just surgically remove the whole womb entirely than to be bleeding needlessly every month for no reason?

Nsiehi:


Nigeria never ceases to amaze, full of surprises. The day you will touch any of those homeless children is the name of adopting or fostering them is the day you will realize that they have parents or guardians and that government and law enforcement agents have their eyes on them and waiting for preys. Some TTC couples have gone to prison because of this. I hope you remember the story of the Kano homeless children who were taken off the street to the East and settled in good homes there, death sentence was prescribed for the foster parents.

Legal adoption in Nigeria looks so easy when being discussed, but the actual process itself is quite draining.

This is exactly my issue with this adoption of a thing. I said in my opening post that I’m adverse to it because of these same reasons you highlighted but some people who have never gone through the process or encountered others who have passed through it are here speaking as if it’s easy.

Adesuwag:
president of womb watchers. Get a life dude!

I am here seeking advice for something that would affect someone’s life and you’re here still telling me to get a life?

I don’t understand you

lilkech:
Okay, so we know women have a time frame to get pregnant due to their natural body systems and I have a career relative who is in her early 40’s but unmarried and without kids.

This my sister is considering adopting a child but I’m advising her against it instead imploring on her to get a guy to get her pregnant (assuming there’s nothing wrong with her womb) and she raises the kid as her own the natural way but she’s adverse to my opinion due to her highly religious inclination saying ‘it’s against her faith to bear a child out of wedlock’ meanwhile time is ticking against her body.

Am I advising her wrongly? I need a wider audience and mature advice concerning this topic please.

You are advising her wrongly, you don't want her getting tangled with the wrong baby daddy. Adoption is the best option for peace of mind.

lilkech:
If that’s your opinion then wouldn’t it be convenient to just surgically remove the whole womb entirely than to be bleeding needlessly every month for no reason?

How exactly is going under the knife considered "convenient" compared to the monthly bleeding that a woman has pretty much accepted as part of her routine from her childhood?

Nsiehi:
1. Nigeria never ceases to amaze, full of surprises. The day you will touch any of those homeless children is the name of adopting or fostering them is the day you will realize that they have parents or guardians and that government and law enforcement agents have their eyes on them and waiting for preys . Some TTC couples have gone to prison because of this. I hope you remember the story of the Kano homeless children who were taken off the street to the East and settled in good homes there, death sentence was prescribed for the foster parents.

2. Legal adoption in Nigeria looks so easy when being discussed, but the actual process itself is quite draining.

1. You are not making any sense at all. Legal adoption is not the same as your many dubious attempts at buying babies. So, try to make sure you understand the difference between the two, please.

What you folks get in trouble with is when you go out to buy babies. That is evil and yes, you ought to be locked up for such foolishness. There are many orphanages in Nigeria where you can go legally adopt a child of your own. And in a country where millions of children are in need of a home, there are many children out there waiting to be adopted.

2. Legal adoption happens every day in that Nigeria. Stop seeking illegal routes and then coming here to scream foul when you are caught in that nonsense. Take the legal route and go through the correct process abeg!

Kobojunkiee:
How exactly is going under the knife considered "convenient" compared to the monthly bleeding that a woman has pretty much accepted as part of her routine from her childhood?

This statement is looking hypocritical. Women bleed from their teenage years and not from a very young childhood.

Women go under the knife to change their butts, boobs, belly fat, nose, lips etc everyday and all these features are those they were born with and grew up with since their birth so why is going under the same knife regarding their wombs ‘inconvenient’ according to you?

Plus try to be civil with your engagements here, don’t accuse people of buying babies like you did to Nsiehi, you can make your point/opinion without casting aspersions that way.

lilkech:
1. This statement is looking hypocritical. Women bleed from their teenage years and not from a very young childhood.
2. Women go under the knife to change their butts, boobs, belly fat, nose, lips etc everyday and all these features are those they were born with and grew up with since their birth so why is going under the same knife regarding their wombs ‘inconvenient’ according to you?
3. Plus try to be civil with your engagements here, don’t accuse people of buying babies like you did to Nsiehi, you can make your point/opinion without casting aspersions that way.

1. So you don't know that some women started experiencing this phenomenon from as young as age 9?

lilkech:
If that’s your opinion then wouldn’t it be convenient to just surgically remove the whole womb entirely than to be bleeding needlessly every month for no reason?

2. Ogbeni, don't try to pin your bullsheet reasoning on me abeg!

So, in your assessment, all cosmetic procedures undergone by both women and men are done for "convenience" sake, and as such a woman without intention towards her womb ought to have it removed for convenience's sake? Since we are on the subject, why not have your brain removed for convenience as well?

3. Nigerians are known to buy babies - there are illegal baby factories as a result of this, even kidnappers who steal babies for sale - and this is illegal. Anyone who goes out to adopt but instead purchases a child in the process is a criminal and ought to be locked up.

Kobojunkiee:
1. So you don't know that some women started experiencing this phenomenon from as young as age 9?
2. Ogbeni, don't try to pin your bullsheet reasoning on me abeg!

So, in your assessment, all cosmetic procedures undergone by both women and men are done for "convenience" sake, and as such a woman without intention towards her womb ought to have it removed for convenience's sake? Since we are on the subject, why not have your brain removed for convenience as well?

3. Nigerians are known to buy babies - there are illegal baby factories as a result of this, even kidnappers who steal babies for sale - and this is illegal. Anyone who goes out to adopt but instead purchases a child in the process is a criminal and ought to be locked up.

It’s okay. You can hold your opinions to yourself. You’ve done well in airing them here for me to see and I thank you for that.

But seriously, are you really this incapable of engaging people here without insulting them? Yesterday you engaged me with one moniker today you’re here with a second one.

Hasn’t it occurred to you that the reason you’re always getting banned from nairaland is because of your character?

lilkech:
1. It’s okay. You can hold your opinions to yourself. You’ve done well in airing them here for me to see and I thank you for that.
2. But seriously, are you really this incapable of engaging people here without insulting them?

3. Yesterday you engaged me with one moniker today you’re here with a second one. Hasn’t it occurred to you that the reason you’re always getting banned from nairaland is because of your character?

1. What I expressed there isn't an opinion but a fact that some ladies did start seeing their monthly from age 9 even.

2. I have yet to insult anyone simply pointing out facts as far as that which is the reality in Nigeria.

3. Ask anyone on here. I am not always getting banned. Every now and then, and this is rarely, the Nairaland autospambots go crazy and ban even my one moniker. For those occasions, I have this backup that clearly indicates to those paying attention that it is still me behind the moniker, only with an extra e.

lilkech:
Okay, so we know women have a time frame to get pregnant due to their natural body systems and I have a career relative who is in her early 40’s but unmarried and without kids.

This my sister is considering adopting a child but I’m advising her against it instead imploring on her to get a guy to get her pregnant (assuming there’s nothing wrong with her womb) and she raises the kid as her own the natural way but she’s adverse to my opinion due to her highly religious inclination saying ‘it’s against her faith to bear a child out of wedlock’ meanwhile time is ticking against her body.

Am I advising her wrongly? I need a wider audience and mature advice concerning this topic please.

Since she has brought religion into the matter
Leave to decide whatever she wants

It's left with her and her God

HeyHey:


Abi oo, I have been involved in this adoption waka with my aunt who had two failed IV, most kids weren’t up for adoption. There was always a story “the mother died and the father works offshore, the mother ran mad etc”.

Plus can a Single person adopt a child in Nigeria??

A single person (especially a woman who meets the eligibility criteria) can adopt a child in Nigeria, my unmarried Aunt did it back in the mid 90s and her daughter is now grown up and married.

Kobojunkie:
in a country with over 8 million homeless children, majority of them orphans, you expect us to believe there are practically none of them available for adoption? Abeg talk better...

Yes, a single person can adopt a child in that same Nigeria.

Haba, I say most, not all.

Kobojunkiee:
1. You are not making any sense at all. Legal adoption is not the same as your many dubious attempts at buying babies. So, try to make sure you understand the difference between the two, please.

What you folks get in trouble with is when you go out to buy babies. That is evil and yes, you ought to be locked up for such foolishness. There are many orphanages in Nigeria where you can go legally adopt a child of your own. And in a country where millions of children are in need of a home, there are many children out there waiting to be adopted.

2. Legal adoption happens every day in that Nigeria. Stop seeking illegal routes and then coming here to scream foul when you are caught in that nonsense. Take the legal route and go through the correct process abeg!

It appears you aren't getting the point I made up there. Nigeria springs up surprises. Where it is expected to act, it stays mom, where you expect the opposite, they act so fast. The vast majority of those children have parents/guardians who are alive. Some of them deliberately ran away from their homes and do return home when they are tired or their parents make efforts to retrieve them. For many of them, their parents or guardians lack the financial means to take care of their needs but at the same time do not want them adopted by another parent. Some TTC couples who have tried using legal means to adopt these children, have had their fingers burnt in the process with some of the adoptee parents claiming that it was done under duress and some other reasons

It is the same way that people visit orphanages and see many children there and then think they are all up for adoption. No. Majority of them have parents and guardians who kept there for different reasons. The intending adoptive parents get the shocker of their lives when they are told that those children are not available for adoption. The intending parents are then asked to submit scouting letters and wait for response, and here is where the story ends for the IP till they lose all hope and start seeking other means.

Just so you know, many orphanages are there for profit. They use those those children to gather sympathy wealth from religious organisations, banks, individuals among others who troop in there to donate money and other items.

Again, many of the adoption cases you term legal are not legal in the real sense. They source these babies through different means and return to the government ministries in charge to bribe their way to get the necessary documents.

Dear, in Nigeria, the more you look the less you.


Single persons can adopt as long as they meet the age and financial criteria.