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Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by gidgiddy: 1:34pm On Sep 09, 2022
Theres a reason why succesive Governments have not allowed Nigerian history to be taught in schools, they dont want people to know the truth so that lies can be propagated. Im here to burst 3 lies that have being continually told against Zik, Aguiyi-Ironsi, Ojukwu, and by extension, the Igbo nation of which I belong to, so that people dont believe lies


That Zik was responsible for secession clause not getting into the constitution:

I have read about this lie so many times its just laughable. Its important to note that when in 1958 Nigerian political leaders gathered in Lancaster House London to discuss what the Nigerian constitution would be, in preparation for independence in 1960, Zik was just one delegate. Others who attended the Lancaster House Conference include delegation that was led by Abubakar Tafawa Balewa of the Northern People's Congress (NPC), and party leaders Obafemi Awolowo of the Action Group, Eyo Ita of the NIP (National Independence Party) and Ahmadu Bello of the NPC – as well as the premiers of the Western, Eastern, and Northern regions. The Chiefs of the Northern Region, Sir Muhammadu Sanusi, Emir of Kano and Alhaji Usman Nagogo, Emir of Katsina' Chiefs of the Western Region, Sir Adesoji Aderemi and Oba Aladesanmi; and Chiefs of the Eastern Region HRH Eze Johnson Osuji Njemanze MBE CON, Paramount Ruler of Owerri, Chief Nyong Essien of Uyo and Chief S. E. Onukogu

Yet people want us to believe that Zik decided for all these people what should be, or not be, in the Nigerian constitution? Thats not possible. Zik may have been against secession clause, but he had no power to decide if it should be put in the constitution or not as he had only one vote

That Ironsi removed federal Regional system and introduced unitary rule:

What a lot of people don't know is that Ironsi did not tamper with the 4 Regions he met when he came to power. His only budget of January 1966 reflected resource control and the revenue sharing formular agreed at independence. The much talked about decree 34 only standardised the civil service. Compare this with Gowon who came in after Ironsi and used Decree 14 to dissolve all 4 Regions, created 12 states, abolished resource control, scrapped the revenue sharing formular, and you find out that it was Gowon who introduced unitary rule

That Ojukwu started the war

Far from it, Ojukwu risked his life to prevent war and keep Nigeria one. He risked his life to go to Ghana and meet Gowon so as to find lasting peace in Nigeria during tumultuous times. He reached an agreement with Gowon, now known as the Aburi accord, that would bring peace and keep Nigeria together. Him and Gowon signed the agreement in front of the President of Ghana

Unfortunately, Gowon broke the agreement, which forced Ojukwu to declare Biafra, which brought about war. If anyone caused the war, it was Gowon who could not keep to signed agreement

Know your history and dont be swayed by lies

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Kotudeji: 1:36pm On Sep 09, 2022
That is why they want to abolish history from our shools

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Tmberwolf1: 1:43pm On Sep 09, 2022
GOD BLESS YOU OP!!! MAY YOUR DAYS BE LONG AND FRUITFUL!!! This is exactly why history needs to be brought back to our curriculum, the people that removed it from the curriculum knew that history won't see them in good light, that's why they removed it in the first place. I've seen too many afjs on this platform spreading lies because of their inate bigotry and hate for igbos.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Qtrpst4: 1:45pm On Sep 09, 2022
Yes because they want to monopolize the channel of educating the young ones of our history. Thank God for social media, they can no longer do that

We will write our own

Kotudeji:
That is why they want to abolish history from our shools

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by ebuk4real(m): 1:45pm On Sep 09, 2022
sad

Only fools will are afraid of their history and also deny and abolish it.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Qtrpst4: 1:46pm On Sep 09, 2022
History has never favoured the Nigerian government, no wonder they think they can intimidate an Ada Igbo for her outburst on the queen, the kleptomaniac like tinubu

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Michelle70(m): 2:03pm On Sep 09, 2022
history has only favoured those telling the story.

If Ijaw say their own, it will be different
If Nigeria says its own, it will be different.

In history, u only have to collect the part that favours u

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Sonyboom765: 2:13pm On Sep 09, 2022
OP you are right the igbos are saint and never did a thing wrong. Only Nigerians wronged igbos.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by seunmsg(m): 3:09pm On Sep 09, 2022
Lol, Igbos and their constant attempt to rewrite history. Even Zik himself came out publicly to accept the fact that he was the one that worked against the inclusion of secession clause in the constitution. So, what’s your point again? You know more than Zik?

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Willy7(m): 3:33pm On Sep 09, 2022
@Op,yes you may be right to some extent, but I believe that Zik being politically naive, (yes I said so, despite being from the same region) and blinded by his love for Nigeria carried the ONE Nigeria motor on his head like hair. Others had foresight and wanted regional politics but Papa Zik was carried away with the frenzy of One Nigeria and being called Zik of Africa. Today, while others have a rallying point in their regions, only the igbos are acting like political orphans and fighting each other. Imagine Orji Ụzor Kalu coming out to play the devil's advocate against his brother just to curry favour from Tinubu and APC. Hope Uzodinma also abandoning his brother to support a good for nothing party that have impoverished Nigerians. This are all effects of Zik's short sightedness. The Sarduanas and Awolowos were playing politics with their eyes and mind fixated on their regions, but Zik thought he can keep Nigeria one. That was a silly mistake and costly one too.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by backtovillage: 3:49pm On Sep 09, 2022
Let me get thrash can. I am coming

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by OneEyedSnake: 3:50pm On Sep 09, 2022
OP on behalf of the entire peoples of Nigeria I come on my knees begging the Igbo nation for forgiveness and all the atrocities netted on your people prior to and during the war.

My father served as an army engineer corps officer on the Nigerian side and on his death bed he confessed to me on raping hundreds of Igbo maidens in front of their parents and husbands in exchange for his army ration kit.

He pointed to a safe in his room and told me the combination and asked to bring an envelope containing several obscene pictures he took with his army issued Kodak camera with hundreds of naked Igbo girls he paid with a biscuits to strip for him. He also pointed to another large envelope containing several gold necklaces , ear rings and rings that weighed over 3kg in total.

He specifically asked me to destroy the photos and gave me details of my supposedly step brothers and sisters he fathered as a young officer in Biafra and asked me to locate them that he had made provisions for them in his will. I thought I was an only child but here's my father who had me in his late 40's telling me I had 5 siblings (he knew of) and that there were definitely more. My father was very rich in his death owing to his own parents wealth and that which he amassed himself. I also used to wonder why it took him so long to get married and now I know it was because he already had fathered so many in Biafra and did not see any reason to settle down.

Anyways, I have contacted pornhub and they said they will be willing to pay premium price for his over 2,000 high quality vintage prints and additional sums for the original film negative.

I ain't burning shit. I am cashing out on this collection big time.

His loot of gold collections are going to be sold as soon as the price of gold appreciated when Russia floats their own alternate gold market to rival the monopoly of the London Bullion Gold Market. I am seeing at least $3,000 an ounce before selling it and not donating shit to an Igbo Orphanage in the east he said he had fond memories from didling kids there.

As for my supposed siblings , I am like FCK em! Not doing any will with them.

So there you have it.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by BATified2023: 3:59pm On Sep 09, 2022
seunmsg:
Lol, Igbos and their constant attempt to rewrite history. Even Zik himself came out publicly to accept the fact that he was the one that worked against the inclusion of secession clause in the constitution. So, what’s your point again? You know more than Zik?
igbos will always play victim card

That uju woman that made derogatory remarks about d queen,when it’s time to pay for her actions she will start playing victim card n start insulting everyone

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by ElSudani: 4:04pm On Sep 09, 2022
This a lame attempt at rewriting history. Nobody said Zik had the sole power to decide whether secession clause was included or not. His region represented by him had one vote just like the other two regions. He decided for whatever reason to align with the position of the north and vote against the secession clause.
This is what happened not the balderdash you wrote up there.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by OneEyedSnake: 4:30pm On Sep 09, 2022
ElSudani:
This a lame attempt at rewriting history. Nobody said Zik had the sole power to decide whether secession clause was included or not. His region represented by him had one vote just like the other two regions. He decided for whatever reason to align with the position of the north and vote against the secession clause.
This is what happened not the balderdash you wrote up there.

So the Igbo wanted an invoilabke one Nigeria like the north.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Dollarremix(m): 4:31pm On Sep 09, 2022
Op go sleep abeg.any small tin Una go carry civil war come,na only Una e affect? Like say Igbos no kill Nigeria soldiers during the civil war.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by ElSudani: 4:34pm On Sep 09, 2022
OneEyedSnake:


So the Igbo wanted an invoilabke one Nigeria like the north.

I guess Zik didn't want to be on Awo's side even if it means voting against his own interests.
I believe the secession clause would have made our leaders more accountable. Instead of going to war, the Biafrans would have been in a better position to negotiate a good deal with the rest of Nigeria.
Hate and petty jealousy would not let the old man think straight.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by OneEyedSnake: 4:36pm On Sep 09, 2022
ElSudani:


I guess Zik didn't want to be on Awo's side even if it means voting against his own interests.

You lie again.

The Igbo position as stated in Zik's infamous speech on Igbo commitment to one nijeriya and that of Achebe's description of the Igbo not weighed down by culture or kings says a lot about Igbo views on dominating the polity.

It is for these reasons a one Nigeria remained crucial to the Igbo.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by ElSudani: 4:40pm On Sep 09, 2022
OneEyedSnake:


You lie again.

The Igbo position as stated in Zik's infamous speech on Igbo commitment to one nijeriya and that of Achebe's description of the Igbo not weighed down by culture or kings says a lot about Igbo views on dominating the polity.

It is for these reasons a one Nigeria remained crucial to the Igbo.

What I wrote was not taken out of the thin air like most of you do. This is recorded history.
Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Wintertime: 4:44pm On Sep 09, 2022
Ok
Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by LegendHero(m): 4:47pm On Sep 09, 2022
Lol. No matter how bitter you try to feel against it, it was truly Ironsi that enforced the unitary system of government and it was he who removed Federal from the constitution and turned Nigeria to a “Republic”.


I kinda lowkey understand Ironsi because as a military government, the only way to administer power within the regions will be to unify so that he can easily takeover the appointment of military governors to oversee those regions. Anything Gowon did after that was basically from what Ironsi did. Stop trying to rewrite history you Ibo people.

I think there has been countless thread on this before.

LegendHero:


Yeah the military led us to where by are by abolishing that constitution. It’s a joint enterprise by Ironsi, Gowon who nailed the semi-final coffin, and even 1999 constitution is just another wahala on its own by those same military.

If you look critically at the Decree 34 that abolished the federal system which is the genesis, you will see that everything Federal was removed from the constitution.

--The 2. (1a) The Federal Military government will be known as National Military Government

The Federal Executive Council will be known as Executive Council.

--The 2. (1b) The Federal Capital Territory will be known as Capital Territory

They should just return the Federal back now and make it a true federalism, devolution of power, revenue sharing, state policing (infact not only police, the state should take over a lot more of what the FG is controlling), and etc.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by OneEyedSnake: 4:54pm On Sep 09, 2022
ElSudani:


What I wrote was not taken out of the thin air like most of you do. This is recorded history.

So Zik position of preserving the colonial borders was based on his opposition to anything Awolowo stood for?

Does this make any sense to you?

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by LegendHero(m): 4:57pm On Sep 09, 2022
OneEyedSnake:


So Zik position of preserving the colonial borders was based on his opposition to anything Awolowo stood for?

Does this make any sense to you?


Zik is a confusionist who have no ideology. He always contradict his very own ideologies multiple occasions so long it suits his immediate benefit.

No one should take Zik serious ideology wise.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Fortruth: 5:02pm On Sep 09, 2022
gidgiddy:
Theres a reason why succesive Governments have not allowed Nigerian history to be taught in schools, they dont want people to know the truth so that lies can be propagated. Im here to burst 3 lies that have being continually told against Zik, Aguiyi-Ironsi, Ojukwu, and by extension, the Igbo nation of which I belong to, so that people dont believe lies


That Zik was responsible for secession clause not getting into the constitution:

I have read about this lie so many times its just laughable. Its important to note that when in 1958 Nigerian political leaders gathered in Lancaster House London to discuss what the Nigerian constitution would be, in preparation for independence in 1960, Zik was just one delegate. Others who attended the Lancaster House Conference include delegation that was led by Abubakar Tafawa Balewa of the Northern People's Congress (NPC), and party leaders Obafemi Awolowo of the Action Group, Eyo Ita of the NIP (National Independence Party) and Ahmadu Bello of the NPC – as well as the premiers of the Western, Eastern, and Northern regions. The Chiefs of the Northern Region, Sir Muhammadu Sanusi, Emir of Kano and Alhaji Usman Nagogo, Emir of Katsina' Chiefs of the Western Region, Sir Adesoji Aderemi and Oba Aladesanmi; and Chiefs of the Eastern Region HRH Eze Johnson Osuji Njemanze MBE CON, Paramount Ruler of Owerri, Chief Nyong Essien of Uyo and Chief S. E. Onukogu

Yet people want us to believe that Zik decided for all these people what should be, or not be, in the Nigerian constitution? Thats not possible. Zik may have been against secession clause, but he had no power to decide if it should be put in the constitution or not as he had only one vote

That Ironsi removed federal Regional system and introduced unitary rule:

What a lot of people don't know is that Ironsi did not tamper with the 4 Regions he met when he came to power. His only budget of January 1966 reflected resource control and the revenue sharing formular agreed at independence. The much talked about decree 34 only standardised the civil service. Compare this with Gowon who came in after Ironsi and used Decree 14 to dissolved all 4 Regions, created 12 states, abolished resource control, scrapped the revenue sharing formular, and you find out that it was Gowon who introduced unitary rule

That Ojukwu started the war

Far from it, Ojukwu risked his life to prevent war and keep Nigeria one. He risked his life to go to Ghana and meet Gowon so as to find lasting peace in Nigeria during tumultuous times. He reached an agreement with Gowon, now known as the Aburi accord, that would bring peace and keep Nigeria together. Him and Gowon signed the agreement in front of the President of Ghana

Unfortunately, Gowon broke the agreement, which forced Ojukwu to declare Biafra, which brought about war. If anyone caused the war, it was Gowon who could not keep to signed agreement

Know your history and dont be swayed by lies





Well done….want to add that Zik was acting in the interest of Britain although he tried to do whatever good he could have for everybody….more for others than Easterners….

That was his problem…. And he should have lost relevance after losing our in Western region elections…which would have brought sense to the One Nigeria Igbo to look at putting East first like other regions were doing at that time.

Also Ojukwu not only risked his life to go to Ghana, he risked his life to go to Niger Republic DURING the war- a Muslim Fulani stronghold for a peace meeting that Gowon DID NOT attend…

Too bad many BLACK AFRICAN guys today at the age of 33/34 are busy watching the colonial enriched BARCLAYS EPL and do not even know their own history…..

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by OneEyedSnake: 5:07pm On Sep 09, 2022
LegendHero:


Zik is a confusionist who have no ideology. He always contradict his very own ideologies multiple occasions so long it suits his immediate benefit.

No one should take Zik serious ideology wise.

Can you explain why Ojukwu supported Ironsi's Decree 34 ?
Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by OneEyedSnake: 5:08pm On Sep 09, 2022
LegendHero:
Lol. No matter how bitter you try to feel against it, it was truly Ironsi that enforced the unitary system of government and it was he who removed Federal from the constitution and turned Nigeria to a “Republic”.


I kinda lowkey understand Ironsi because as a military government, the only way to administer power within the regions will be to unify so that he can easily takeover the appointment of military governors to oversee those regions. Anything Gowon did after that was basically from what Ironsi did. Stop trying to rewrite history you Ibo people.

I think there has been countless thread on this before.


I never knew the Igbo to be such bare faced liars.

Nairaland and Peter Obi plus IPOB has exposed their affinity to lies.

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by gidgiddy: 5:15pm On Sep 09, 2022
ElSudani:
This a lame attempt at rewriting history. Nobody said Zik had the sole power to decide whether secession clause was included or not. His region represented by him had one vote just like the other two regions. He decided for whatever reason to align with the position of the north and vote against the secession clause.
This is what happened not the balderdash you wrote up there.

Didnt you see the names of some of the delegates there? Do you think tradional rulers such as Njemanze, Essien and Onukogu from the East would have travelled all the way to London to sit and deliberate only for Zik to have the deciding vote? Of course not

The false narrative that has been sold for years is that the only reason secession did not make it into the constitution was because it was the will of Zik, yet Zik had only one vote

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Brimstone77: 5:21pm On Sep 09, 2022
OneEyedSnake:
OP on behalf of the entire peoples of Nigeria I come on my knees begging the Igbo nation for forgiveness and all the atrocities netted on your people prior to and during the war.

My father served as an army engineer corps officer on the Nigerian side and on his death bed he confessed to me on raping hundreds of Igbo maidens in front of their parents and husbands in exchange for his army ration kit.

He pointed to a safe in his room and told me the combination and asked to bring an envelope containing several obscene pictures he took with his army issued Kodak camera with hundreds of naked Igbo girls he paid with a biscuits to strip for him. He also pointed to another large envelope containing several gold necklaces , ear rings and rings that weighed over 3kg in total.

He specifically asked me to destroy the photos and gave me details of my supposedly step brothers and sisters he fathered as a young officer in Biafra and asked me to locate them that he had made provisions for them in his will. I thought I was an only child but here's my father who had me in his late 40's telling me I had 5 siblings (he knew of) and that there were definitely more. My father was very rich in his death owing to his own parents wealth and that which he amassed himself. I also used to wonder why it took him so long to get married and now I know it was because he already had fathered so many in Biafra and did not see any reason to settle down.

Anyways, I have contacted pornhub and they said they will be willing to pay premium price for his over 2,000 high quality vintage prints and additional sums for the original film negative.

I ain't burning shit. I am cashing out on this collection big time.

His loot of gold collections are going to be sold as soon as the price of gold appreciated when Russia floats their own alternate gold market to rival the monopoly of the London Bullion Gold Market. I am seeing at least $3,000 an ounce before selling it and not donating shit to an Igbo Orphanage in the east he said he had fond memories from didling kids there.

As for my supposed siblings , I am like FCK em! Not doing any will with them.

So there you have it.
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It only you no how st*pid and f**Lish you sound..

Lolz igbos have seen it all and you can't provoke us with your senseless and useless antics..

We exist before your generation!!

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by OneEyedSnake: 5:31pm On Sep 09, 2022
Brimstone77:
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It only you no how st*pid and f**Lish you sound..

Lolz igbos have seen it all and you can't provoke us with your senseless and useless antics..

We exist before your generation!!

I will be posting links to the latest Pornhub vintage war pics that they intend to pay me at least $500 a copy .


Who knows your granny might be part of the collection

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by gidgiddy: 6:19pm On Sep 09, 2022
LegendHero:
Lol. No matter how bitter you try to feel against it, it was truly Ironsi that enforced the unitary system of government and it was he who removed Federal from the constitution and turned Nigeria to a “Republic”.


I kinda lowkey understand Ironsi because as a military government, the only way to administer power within the regions will be to unify so that he can easily takeover the appointment of military governors to oversee those regions. Anything Gowon did after that was basically from what Ironsi did. Stop trying to rewrite history you Ibo people.

I think there has been countless thread on this before.


You are talking about Ironsi instituting Military rule, nobody is arguing that

The argument is if Ironsi abolished Regionalism and introduced unitary rule

Its not possible that Ironsi did that considering that all 4 Regions were existing with full resource control and financial autonomy during his tenure

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Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by WhatCanIsay(m): 6:55pm On Sep 09, 2022
The thing is this, we have a set of people that have been living on propaganda for so long in Nigeria that their brains had been whitewashed to believe their lies.

Their sole aim is to be anti-Igbo, using pure undiluted lies to support their stories. There was a time they were holding sway here till we bursted all their fabrications one after the other. We thank God for the dearth of traditional news media.
Re: Three Lies That Have Been Told Against Zik, Ironsi, Ojukwu And The Igbo Nation by Osariemen12: 7:34pm On Sep 09, 2022
My elder brother Osas will always tell me: never read your history from a book written or published by a Yoruba. Reason: you'll certainly meet fairly tales and opinions that suit only the purpose of the writer, not the writing itself.

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