OkCornel:
Kingyakos…

Over to you.

kingyakos:





I'm sorry i can't

OkCornel:


How was Isaiah 60 fulfilled? Or you ain’t discussing?

kingyakos:



Let me send you a sermon on Isaiah 60 preach by Elijah so u could understand it more better but you ain't saying anything about that.

OkCornel:


How long is the sermon?

What are the key points from the sermon?

kingyakos:
Isaiah said, “Gross darkness is coming upon this people; but for the Church to rise and shine, in the glory of the Light.”

1. “Jerusalem, get up and shine![a] Your Light is coming! The Glory of the Lord will shine on you.
2 Darkness now covers the earth, and the people are in darkness. But the Lord will shine on you, and his Glory will appear over you.
3 Then the nations will come to your light. Kings will come to your bright sunrise.
4 Look around you! See all the people gathering around. Those are your sons coming from far away, and your daughters are there beside them.
5 “At that time you will see your people, and your faces will shine with happiness. First, you will be afraid, but then you will be excited. All the riches from across the seas will be set before you. The riches of the nations will come to you. - Isaiah 60 vs 1 - 5

Kobojunkie:
Isaiah spoke of the Church?

kingyakos:
The children of God are the church We are the temple of God. Don't quick to respond on anything you come across, reason first before you comment.

1. “Jerusalem, get up and shine! Your Light is coming! The Glory of the Lord will shine on you.
2 Darkness now covers the earth, and the people are in darkness. But the Lord will shine on you, and his Glory will appear over you.
3 Then the nations will come to your light. Kings will come to your bright sunrise.
4 Look around you! See all the people gathering around. Those are your sons coming from far away, and your daughters are there beside them.
5 “At that time you will see your people, and your faces will shine with happiness. First, you will be afraid, but then you will be excited. All the riches from across the seas will be set before you. The riches of the nations will come to you. - Isaiah 60 vs 1 - 5

Kobojunkie:
You are not making sense at all.

Read again what is written without attempts to insert your own ideas into what is written, and take your own advice. Carefully process what is written.

Kobojunkie:
You are not making sense at all.

Read again what is written without attempts to insert your own ideas into what is written, and take your own advice. Carefully process what is written.

kingyakos:
1. Like i said earlier don't be quick to respond rather reason first before you comment. Isaiah 60 vrs 1:5 has nothing to do with the Jews or Jerusalem, it was for the Gentiles. Isaiah saw and spoke about it and it came to fulfilled in our dispensation, the loadecia church age.....

2. Carefully read Isaiah 60 vrs 1:5 below

Isaiah 60:1-5 (KJV) Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.
For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.
Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.

Kobojunkie:
1. Recall that in Deuteronomy, God said He would give the people of Israel prophets them with messages that impacted the lives of Israelites.

Isaiah was an Israelite prophet and his primary mission was to Israelites, just as God declared it would be in His Law, and so your claim that Isaiah instead spoke of Gentiles in those verses, does not add up to that which was spoken by God Himself. So, please explain the why of your assumption.

2. I think you should read it yourself to see that what you claim makes no sense.

Pay attention to the aspects of the passage in bold. That entire passage is obviously not addressed to gentiles(in bold red).

sonmvayina:


That is what him and okcornel has been doing..

kingyakos:
1. Isaiah being an Israelites doesn't mean God can't use him the way it pleases God.

2. I've witnessed a 800years old prophecy spoken by one prophet of the old coming to fulfilled in this our days.

3. Isaiah 60 is a prophecy for the Gentiles spoken by Isaiah and it has come to fulfilled.
I will advise you to drop your intellect and listen if u willing to learn deep things about God. You don't know me and i don't know you but i will say to you to trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not unto your own understanding of things.

4. If your education is contrary to the word of God, then lean to the word and let go your education. The word of God is life and to know it is life and life is what you need. I believe you can let things go to save your life.

OkCornel:


Hey, kingyakos mentioned Isaiah 60 has been fulfilled. I disagree, so how am I doing what he’s doing?

Kobojunkie:
1. So, what you are saying is that God is in fact not expected to be faithful to His own Covenant with His people? He is not a faithful God at all?

2. What prophesy is this?

3. A prophecy for the gentiles that regards Gentiles as third parties in the message that is Isaiah 60?

4. Ugh! Meaningless soundbite! Let's please keep these out of the discourse abeg!

kingyakos:
1. Man cannot keep covenant with God and no matter how man tries to keep it covenant with God, man will fail because human are bound to make mistake.

2. God dealings with the Gentiles is without condition.

3. The seed of Abraham is blessed without condition and please if u still can't comprehend what I'm posting here it simply mean my post or this thread ain't for you.
Shalom

kingyakos:




In Isaiah 60, Isaiah made mention of the Gentiles and let me ask you are we not in the Gentiles dispensation?....

Didn't Isaiah 60 said the light has come to the Gentiles and the Gentiles has seen the light, have you not seen Christ or is Christ not the light or are you expecting another light other than Christ?..

Kobojunkie:
1. Where do you get this idea in bold come from?

For the sake of this conversation, where in scripture did God Himself tell you that man cannot keep God's Covenant with man?

2. Where in scripture did God say the statement in bold?

3. God's Covenant with Abraham served as a condition in itself. So, your claim that the seed of Abraham is blessed without condition is a lie.
Look, unless you clearly express or show where in scripture your claims come from, how do you expect anyone to understand where you are going with any of your many claims?

OkCornel:



Bearing in mind we are gentiles, when was this part of Isaiah 60 fulfilled?


Isaiah 60 v 10-11;

10 “Foreigners will rebuild your walls, and their kings will serve you. Though in anger I struck you, in favor I will show you compassion.
11 Your gates will always stand open, they will never be shut, day or night, so that people may bring you the wealth of the nations their kings led in triumphal procession.

kingyakos:
Abraham seed is blessed without condition or covenant and if u still can grab it simply because u are not deep in scripture, i will suggest you remain in your religion and listen to the lies from your pastor.
I'm a Christian not a religious person and mind you Christianity is not a religion.
I'm just informing you before you bounce on me again.

kingyakos:




I can see you are quoting some Bible verse in Isaiah 60

OkCornel:


How was it fulfilled. You mentioned it’s been fulfilled.

How?

kingyakos:
1. Isaiah prophecied that the light will come to the Gentiles, hasn't the light come to the Gentiles, hasn't Christ been preach to the Gentiles, hasn't the Gentiles accepted what the Jews rejected, hasn't the light rise in the east and set in the west, is Christ not the light, when the light spoke to Paul the apostle, didn't the light say to him " I'm Christ which thou persecuted"?...

Isaiah 60:1-5 (KJV) Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.
For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.
Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.

kingyakos:




Isaiah prophecied that the light will come to the Gentiles, hasn't the light come to the Gentiles, hasn't Christ been preach to the Gentiles, hasn't the Gentiles accepted what the Jews rejected, hasn't the light rise in the east and set in the west, is Christ not the light, when the light spoke to Paul the apostle, didn't the light say to him " I'm Christ which thou persecuted"?...

OkCornel:


Bros please when did foreigners build the walls?

When did King of nations line up to give tribute to Israel?

At what time in history was Isaiah 60 v 10-11 fulfilled?

Isaiah 60 v 10-11;



I'm i talking about Isaiah 60 v 10-11 or Isaiah 60 vrs 1-5?...


10 “Foreigners will rebuild your walls, and their kings will serve you. Though in anger I struck you, in favor I will show you compassion.
11 Your gates will always stand open, they will never be shut, day or night, so that people may bring you the wealth of the nations their kings led in triumphal procession.

Kobojunkie:
Isaiah didn't say that!
Pay attention to the aspects of the passage in bold. That entire passage is obviously not addressed to gentiles(in bold red).

That passage speaks in regard to the Jews - thee, thine, thy etc.-, not the Gentiles. The

kingyakos:
Seems Christianity is not for you to understand, try Hindu or Islam.