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12tribesww:
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Let's assume they were black men, does this somehow then mean you will not be judged on the standard of righteousness as Jesus Christ said He would judge all those who are born-again?

Kobojunkie:
Let's assume they were black men, does this somehow then mean you will not be judged on the standard of righteousness as Jesus Christ said He would judge all those who are born-again?

personally i think religion is some form of tool, more like mental slavery...
you sef reason am, some people on some other continent have their political issues and spiritual issues (Israelite Political History and Religion) then you in far away Africa, your predecessors were forced with whip, slavery and murder to accept salvation.
Salvation from what exactly ?

Zanzibar1:

personally i think religion is some form of tool, more like mental slavery... you sef reason am, some people on some other continent have thier political issues and spiritual issues, then you in far away Africa, your predecessors were forced with whip, slavery and murder to accept

I don't subscribe to religion as I firmly believe it is a tool used by men to mentally eslave their fellow men into submitting to their human will and control.

That said, I do believe in God who never asked men to install what is their religion in His name, nor did He send men to forced other men into submission to their control using His name.

As for the meaning of Salvation. Well, in the simplest possible, it is from the barriers that keep man from directly accessing God in their daily living.

Kobojunkie:
I don't subscribe to religion as I firmly believe it is a tool used by men to mentally eslave their fellow men into submitting to their human will and control.

That said, I do believe in God who never asked men to install what is their religion in His name, nor did He send men to forced other men into submission to their control using His name.

As for the meaning of Salvation. Well, in the simplest possible, it is from the barriers that keep man from directly accessing God in their daily living.

your post here is self conflicting. On one hand (in your first post) you advocate being born again which is a precursor to salvation. its all good sha let everyone preach and practice what they believe.

Zanzibar1:
1. your post here is self conflicting. On one hand (in your first post) you advocate being born again which is a precursor to salvation.
2. its all good sha let everyone preach and practice what they believe

1. self-conflicting? I don't follow!

Salvation as offered by God Himself requires one be born-again and this by His terms.

2. I teach what I know and leave it to others to decide for themselves if it is of interest to then or not. I can't get anyone born-again nor do I have capacity to save anyone. That is up to the individual to decide for self if a relationship with the Almighty is worth their time.

Kobojunkie:
1. self-conflicting? I don't follow!

Salvation as offered by God Himself requires one be born-again and this by His terms.

2. I teach what I know and leave it to others to decide for themselves if it is of interest to then or not. I can't get anyone born-again nor do I have capacity to save anyone. That is up to the individual to decide for self if a relationship with the Almighty is worth their time.

Kombo your arguments dey always bust my head,lol.

Kobojunkie:
self-conflicting? I don't follow!

Salvation as offered by God Himself requires one be born-again and this by His terms.

I am more inclined to the idea of Pantheism and Polytheism. By the time you read Joshua 24:15 with an open heart, you'll see the Israelite deity had competitors ( some were even way stronger than EL) and well recognized/represented. Different Gods with different terms

Orumila has his terms, Ogun has his terms, Baal has his terms, Zanzibar1 has his terms, let everybody have their terms

Zanzibar1:
1. I am more inclined to the idea of Pantheism and Polytheism. By the time you read Joshua 24:15 with an open heart, you'll see the Israelite deity had competitors ( some were even way stronger than EL) and well recognized/represented. Different Gods with different terms

2. Orumila has his terms, Ogun has his terms, Baal has his terms, Zanzibar1 has his terms, let everybody have their terms

1. Even the Muslim Allah is a contender but that doesn't change anything, does it? .

2. Sure.

Mufakirnaqdiun:
Kombo your arguments dey always bust my head,lol.

We have that in common.

Mufakirnaqdiun:
Kombo your arguments dey always bust my head,lol.

We have that in common.

Kobojunkie:
1. Even the Muslim Allah is a contender but that doesn't change anything, does it? .

2. Sure.

You talk rubbish always, will you shut up that your mouth you don't brush

Kobojunkie:
1. self-conflicting? I don't follow!

Salvation as offered by God Himself requires one be born-again and this by His terms.

2. I teach what I know and leave it to others to decide for themselves if it is of interest to then or not. I can't get anyone born-again nor do I have capacity to save anyone. That is up to the individual to decide for self if a relationship with the Almighty is worth their time.

Teacher that teach rubbish that is who you are. Stupid foolish senseless person.

1nice:

Teacher that teach rubbish that is who you are. Stupid foolish senseless person.

This is wrong. You pass your message without insult

Iesus chrestus is a black man bwahahahah

The first problem we suffer from, if the color of the true image of Jesus can be changed, don't you think they must have also changed the message?. Read John 7:38/ 1 John 2: 3-4 (If you truly believe in Christ) is the problem of identity. Lets not "assume" Christ and King Solomon were black men...They are BLACK MEN. On the issue of righteousness, read Psalms 119:172 to understand what the standards of righteousness is according to the bible. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have.

Kobojunkie:
Let's assume they were black men, does this somehow then mean you will not be judged on the standard of righteousness as Jesus Christ said He would judge all those who are born-again?

This is not religion chief...This are basic texts from the scriptures to enlighten our people from RELIGION. God never gave us religion, he just gave he laws, statues and commandments to follow. Let ask you a question, Is God a christian?

Zanzibar1:

personally i think religion is some form of tool, more like mental slavery...
you sef reason am, some people on some other continent have their political issues and spiritual issues (Israelite Political History and Religion) then you in far away Africa, your predecessors were forced with whip, slavery and murder to accept salvation.
Salvation from what exactly ?

Interesting take chief...but one question to you is who did God offer salvation to? everyone or just a specific set of people? If you can point out some scriptures, fantastic.

Kobojunkie:
1. self-conflicting? I don't follow!

Salvation as offered by God Himself requires one be born-again and this by His terms.

2. I teach what I know and leave it to others to decide for themselves if it is of interest to then or not. I can't get anyone born-again nor do I have capacity to save anyone. That is up to the individual to decide for self if a relationship with the Almighty is worth their time.

12tribesww:
if the color of the true image of Jesus can be changed, don't you think they must have also changed the message?. Read John 7:38/ 1 John 2: 3-4 (If you truly believe in Christ) is the problem of identity. Lets not "assume" Christ and King Solomon were black men...They are BLACK MEN.

Change which message? Are you indirectly saying the bible has been tampered with? Be very careful with the type of statements you make.

Whether Christ was black, asian, indian, white e.t.c doesn't matter. What matters is are you practising what he preached? Do you love God with your whole soul,mind and heart? Do you love your neighbor as yourself? Are you aware your neighbors include people of different race, tribe or ethic groups and you are to show love to everyone equally despite how they look or where they come from?

Go and sitdown and think about the above questions deeply.

You so called "black Hebrew movement group" just go online spewing trash about Jesus race to promote hate and racism against people of different colour and cause people to lose faith in God's inspired word the Bible.

O Yes.
And their NASS became "NATIONAL ASS".

12tribesww:

Interesting take chief...but one question to you is who did God offer salvation to? everyone or just a specific set of people? If you can point out some scriptures, fantastic.

Jesus Christ's offer of Salvation was for those who are weary(of this world) and heavy laden- Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30. Obviously, only a one who is tired of this world would be willing to give up everything in order to obtain a place in Heaven. And yes, you have to abandon everything in order to obtain the treasure that is Heaven- Matthew 13 vs 42 - 44 - there is no other way.

12tribesww:
The first problem we suffer from, if the color of the true image of Jesus can be changed, don't you think they must have also changed the message?. Read John 7:38/ 1 John 2: 3-4 (If you truly believe in Christ) is the problem of identity. Lets not "assume" Christ and King Solomon were black men...They are BLACK MEN. On the issue of righteousness, read Psalms 119:172 to understand what the standards of righteousness is according to the bible. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have.

That problem only exists in your mind there. Jesus Christ came to call all those who are tired of this world and are heavy laden - Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30. If you are not one of those, it means you are probably still attached to the meaningless things of this world and not ready to let go.

all these argument sef. una no dey taya

Which hate? Always read to understand and not read to react...

Nelidee:


Change which message? Are you indirectly saying the bible has been tampered with? Be very careful with the type of statements you make.

Whether Christ was black, asian, indian, white e.t.c doesn't matter. What matters is are you practising what he preached? Do you love God with your whole soul,mind and heart? Do you love your neighbor as yourself? Are you aware your neighbors include people of different race, tribe or ethic groups and you are to show love to everyone equally despite how they look or where they come from?

Go and sitdown and think about the above questions deeply.

You so called "black Hebrew movement group" just go online spewing trash about Jesus race to promote hate and racism against people of different colour and cause people to lose faith in God's inspired word the Bible.