seunny4lif:

I swear
She was only 5mins but entered with 2 cars and Biden with more than 15 cars yet they claimed no space
The UAE president came with his own escort.
Ah Biden already left just few minutes ago

Even Jesus Christ have 12 disciples but inside the 12, He loved 3 more then among the 3, he over loved Peter.
Life is not balance

Well, she is the host. So I expect her to be better cared for than most.

What's funny is, before she became Prime Minister, she'd have easily travelled on the underground. But I guess she's better off than Tony Blair who must go everywhere with security guards least someone citizenry arrest his ass for war crimes.

budaatum:


Actually, what it shows is how you view yourself, if whether you ride on a bus or not is what defines you. I wonder how you'd view yourself if you had had to walk...

Your arguments keep revolving around, "it's about you, not about them. If you refuse, then you have self esteem issues." That's not a problem...

The day you visit a friend and he serves you a meal in a plastic plate with a plastic spoon to match while he serves the other friends you came with in ceramic plates with stainless spoons, eat it, because the visit is about celebrating with your friend and not about what type of plate you're served in.

Shoodboi:


Your arguments keep revolving around, "it's about you, not about them. If you refuse, then you have self esteem issues." That's not a problem...

The day you visit a friend and he serves you a meal in a plastic plate with a plastic spoon to match while he serves the other friends you came with in ceramic plates with stainless spoons, eat it, because the visit is about celebrating with your friend and not about what type of plate you're served in.

Dude, please! This friend you mentioned will not force me to eat "a meal in a plastic plate with a plastic spoon" and neither do I have to eat "a meal served on plastic plate with a plastic spoon" if I don't want to eat or if I find eating a meal on a plastic plate with a plastic spoon to be disrespectful. It's not by force that I eat what I don't want to eat especially if I do have respect for myself or if that respect is impacted by a mere "meal in a plastic plate with a plastic spoon", though I would ask myself how I stooped so low as to let my self esteem be determined by "a meal served on plastic plate with a plastic spoon".

But I guess when I see the Emperor of Japan and the King of Spain eating their "meal on a plastic plate with a plastic spoon to match", I just might feel honoured that my friend has sat me at their table, because no matter how grand my self esteem might be, well, I'm not exactly at that sort of level, I honestly must admit.

findings thinks one of them is even the driver sef

budaatum:


Dude, please! This friend you mentioned will not force me to eat "a meal in a plastic plate with a plastic spoon" and neither do I have to eat "a meal served on plastic plate with a plastic spoon" if I don't want to eat or if I find eating a meal on a plastic plate with a plastic spoon to be disrespectful. It's not by force that I eat what I don't want to eat especially if I do have respect for myself or if that respect is impacted by a mere "meal in a plastic plate with a plastic spoon", though I would ask myself how I stooped so low as to let my self esteem be determined by "a meal served on plastic plate with a plastic spoon".

But I guess when I see the Emperor of Japan and the King of Spain eating their "meal on a plastic plate with a plastic spoon to match", I just might feel honoured that my friend has sat me at their table, because no matter how grand my self esteem might be, well, I'm not exactly at that sort of level, I honestly must admit.

You made sense with the first paragraph and then went off with the second. Well, to each his own.

budaatum:

My class and esteem is not dependent on my mode of transport, but why don't you come tell the many whites I boss and order around what you claim above and hear what they have to tell ignoramus you.

You don't boss anyone around,keep deceiving yourself and living in your delusions,you don't have that kind of self esteem bruh, it's quite evident in your comments

budaatum:


Funny if true since she lives just 5 minutes from Westminster Cathedral and could have walked the back alleys.

But I guess she might not be able to walk, because, apart from the President of USA, she's the most likely to have had eggs thrown at her. Brits can be rather disrespectful that way, though they might have resisted in honour of the Queen.

and why would they want to throw eggs at her?

Shoodboi:

You made sense with the first paragraph and then went off with the second. Well, to each his own.

And that is precisely my point. Your own is to feel disrespected because you are told to get the bus or because your friend serves you a meal on a plastic plate with a plastic spoon and both reduce your self esteem, while my self esteem is not in any way affected by getting the bus or being served a meal by my friend on a plastic plate with a plastic spoon and nor am I disrespected. It's the same way you thought you could have an impact on my self esteem by disrespecting me in your initial response to me, and I hope I have shown you that your disrespect has no impact on my self esteem.

It's called self esteem for a reason you see. One determines one's self esteem oneself instead of letting the respect or disrespect of others determine how much self esteem one must have for oneself. And if my friend, note, my friend; decides to serve me on a plastic plate with a plastic spoon, I can either decide my "own" is that 'friend' is not my friend or is so much my friend that he expects me to understand that there might be reasons for serving me on a plastic plate with a plastic spoon, which might be because my friend is so my friend that he expects me to understand and accommodate him while he serves his less of a friend guests with the expensive china because they just might feel disrespected and not be as friendly to accommodate him as much as I might.

Thankfully, the leaders who got the bus do not feel disrespected, and nor has their self esteem been negatively impacted, or at least I've not heard any of them say their's has.

Thanks for your time Shoodboi. I am respected by you serving it to me however you felt like, and my self esteem is very much intact.

mysticwarrior:
and why would they want to throw eggs at her?

It's Britain, lol. We can be very irreverent where our political leaders are concerned, especially ones we did not elect like Truss.

But honest. I don't know that anyone would want to throw eggs at Truss. Just that I would not be surprised if someone did, so she'd know better not be too lax in her security.

shogsman:

You don't boss anyone around,keep deceiving yourself and living in your delusions,you don't have that kind of self esteem bruh, it's quite evident in your comments

Lol.

budaatum:



Some leaders can very easily walk the streets of London because they are unlikely to be recognised. Some can't because they would be recognised and might never get where they are going, either because people love them so much and want to say hello, or hate them so much and might want to punch their lights out. Saudi's leader can not walk London streets for one of those reasons, and neither can Biden. Putin can't even step in UK in an armoured car and a thousand securing him at the moment, and it's the Chinese themselves who would attack their Xi Jinping,

Xi have been to London to meet the Queen and Xi was driving around London with Prince Charles.
Chinese will attack Xi? Maybe you watched too much CNN, BBC or Sky news
Xi escorts are just massive less than so called Democracy leader of the world(Biden or Obama or Trump)
Xi stayed in Hotel
I have seen Putin and Obama escort in Germany.
Putin escort simple passes while so called USA escorts took over everywhere.
Putin to Israel was only around 10 escorts while Trump escorts are more than 30 cars.
Putin escorts in in Finland is less than Trump escorts to Finland when both leaders met.
All roads were blocked in Rome when Obama came while Putin escort never blocked the road.
Putin can walk the street of Moscow and St. P while Biden can’t even walk the street of WDC without firing squad everywhere.
A leader of free world should be able to drive around with less escorts.
That should show the real leader

seunny4lif:

Xi have been to London to meet the Queen and Xi was driving around London with Prince Charles.
Xi escorts are just massive less than so called Democracy leader of the world(Biden or Obama or Trump)
Xi stayed in Hotel
I have seen Putin and Obama escort in Germany.
Putin escort simple passes while so called USA escorts took over everywhere.
Putin waited to greet people on the street of Rome.
Putin escorts in in Finland is less than Trump escorts to Finland when both leaders met.
All roads were blocked in Rome when Obama came while Putin escort never blocked the road.
Putin can walk the street of Moscow and St. P while Biden can’t even walk the street of WDC without firing squad everywhere.
That should show the real leader

Read about Xi's visit to UK below. As for Putin. Lots of Ukrainians are now in London since his last visit, and I think they might have something to say about him visiting UK. Even UK has already said a lot by not inviting him in the first place.

Biden I doubt had any protests, and I would not be surprised if Obama got much less. He black so we love him. Dump though. Again. See below.

Forget all those few British PMs said.
Trump visit to UK generated one of the biggest anti government protests ever in UK yet the Queen welcome him with red carpet.
Trump visit to UK costed the British government billions of dollars due to security risk and the British citizens kicked against it yet the British police and military were deployed everywhere in London.

If Xi decide to come for the funeral, you will thousands of Chinese citizens on the street ready to welcome him.
The British government will roll out red carpet and give him massive due respect just like they gave Biden, UAE president and Marcon.

budaatum:


Read about Xi's visit to UK below. As for Putin. Lots of Ukrainians are now in London since his last visit, and I think they might have something to say about him visiting UK. Even UK has already said a lot by not inviting him in the first place.

Biden I doubt had any protests, and I would not be surprised if Obama got much less. He black so we love him. Dump though. Again. See below.

seunny4lif:
Forget all those few British PMs said.
Trump visit to UK generated one of the biggest anti government protests ever in UK yet the Queen welcome him with red carpet.
Trump visit to UK costed the British government billions of dollars due to security risk and the British citizens kicked against it yet the British police and military were deployed everywhere in London.

If Xi decide to come for the funeral, you will thousands of Chinese citizens on the street ready to welcome him.
The British government will roll out red carpet and give him massive due respect just like they gave Biden, UAE president and Marcon.

I never said a British prime Minister would protest or throw eggs at anyone the Brits don't like who walks the streets. I even suggested eggs might be thrown at the UK Prime Minister Truss if she walks the streets, but I hopefully did not give you the impression they'd be thrown by the Prime Minister.

For your information, this was a funeral for the Queen and not a state visit, so no red carpet roll out for anyone, not Biden nor UAE president nor Marcon nor God even, though I'm sure they'd consider for God, considering they not want to do anything to piss God off so she don't end up in heaven.

No one has time to be spending billions on anyone's security during the funeral, hence the bus, to reduce security costs and concerns. Those who refused the bus would have to pay for their own security, and I'm certain you'd curse Buhari if he came and refused the bus and then had to pay for his own security. The Metropolitan Police do not charge small.

budaatum:


And that is precisely my point. Your own is to feel disrespected because you ....

You're starting to sound like a broken record at this point. Going around "self-esteem" as if it is all there is to life. At no moment did I ever talk about self-esteem. You've been the one talking about it up until now. If your self-esteem is as high as you claim, you wouldn’t have to keep repeating it as you're doing.

When I said, "to each his own", I meant you and I and not the people on the bus and those that put them there. If you asked the African leaders if their self-esteem took a hit because the British put them on a bus, they'd probably say no and they would be telling the truth. This has to do with disrespect and disregard, and not self-esteem. If you asked if they felt disrespected, they'd probably say no again, since those that'd have felt disrespected, didn't even show up.

You'd have made a lot of sense if you said the African leaders on the bus didn't consider it disrespectful because of diplomatic reasons, which would be true. They received the protocol details days before leaving their countries and knew they would be put on a bus. Those that had no qualms with being on the bus went on while those that did avoid going altogether and sent representatives instead. (Many Gulf leaders didn’t go for the same reasons too.)

But you did not talk about the diplomatic part. Instead, you keep repeating self-esteem. Yet, the same you that agreed you'd feel disrespected if your friend served you with a plastic plate, turned around to say you'd feel honored if the kings of Spain and Japan were also eating out of plastic plates. This was the same excuse you gave about African leaders being on a bus: You said it's okay since the kings of Japan and Spain were on buses too. What does that tell you about your self-esteem?

Or has the meaning of self-esteem changed? Does it not refer to having confidence in yourself? If your self-esteem was as high as you claim, why do you only feel an action is okay when the kings of two other countries are treated the same way as you but it's not okay if they were treated with more respect?

You even made excuses for the Presidents of the US and the King of Saudi taking their personal rides "because of security reasons" and went around claiming no one recognizes African leaders. Which countries have the most migrants in the UK again? Your excuse wasn’t just weak. It is lame and reeks of low self-esteem. I said you speak like a politician and I was correct and I should add that you speak like a horrible one.

The UN regularly holds meetings where World leaders meet and not once have they put African leaders — or anyone else for that matter — in a bus. This is in New York, one of the busiest cities in the world. Yet, leaders and their assistants move around in convoys and all. Why then did the UK put African leaders on a bus? They said it was for congestion. Does that make sense?

I know for sure that top politicians and other government, and academic officials always have protocol officers that familiarize themselves with the protocol of whatever event their leaders are attending and make sure everything is coordinated. Vehicles have to be at particular locations at particular times, move at certain speeds, drop their bosses off and quickly zoom off so another vehicle can come in. Everything is planned. So why did the UK decide it was a good idea to put other people's leaders on a bus?

This clearly wasn’t congestion. It was just the UK being nasty or unthoughtful. Can Nigeria put King Charles on a bus if he visits? Will he agree to such even if we decide to be dumb and disrespectful? I'm sure you'd be the one at the forefront of the massive condemnation the Nigerian government will receive from us, Nigerians, for daring to put another country's leader on a bus.

But the tables are turned and you suddenly think it's okay. And in order to satisfy your position and shut others down, you keep screaming self-esteem. In other words, disrespect is okay. And if you feel disrespected after being disrespected, then it is you and your self-esteem that is the problem and not the person that dished the disrespect? Like, seriously? You should have some deep conversation with yourself, man. Ask yourself: If these people think it is okay to put your leaders on a bus, what would they put you in?

seunny4lif:

Xi have been to London to meet the Queen and Xi was driving around London with Prince Charles.
Chinese will attack Xi? Maybe you watched too much CNN, BBC or Sky news
Xi escorts are just massive less than so called Democracy leader of the world(Biden or Obama or Trump)
Xi stayed in Hotel
I have seen Putin and Obama escort in Germany.
Putin escort simple passes while so called USA escorts took over everywhere.
Putin to Israel was only around 10 escorts while Trump escorts are more than 30 cars.
Putin escorts in in Finland is less than Trump escorts to Finland when both leaders met.
All roads were blocked in Rome when Obama came while Putin escort never blocked the road.
Putin can walk the street of Moscow and St. P while Biden can’t even walk the street of WDC without firing squad everywhere.
A leader of free world should be able to drive around with less escorts.
That should show the real leader

Thanks for schooling him. I've watched several videos of world (and African) leaders moving around and Putin's convoy always stood out. There was one where he left the Kremlin, and he and his escorts drove through a hold-up to get to the other side of the road. He doesn't block roads or anything. He just drives. It was weird because I expected someone like him to surround himself with so much security.

Shoodboi:

But you did not talk about the diplomatic part. Instead, you keep repeating self-esteem. Yet, the same you that agreed you'd feel disrespected if your friend served you with a plastic plate, ....

When people misread what I write, I do tend to go on on the assumption they'd eventually open their eyes and read what I wrote instead of claiming I wrote what I never wrote then argue against their own misreading and expect me to be on the other end of their own argument.

In your case however, I'll just repost what I wrote in bold and hope.

budaatum:
And that is precisely my point. Your own is to feel disrespected because you are told to get the bus or because your friend serves you a meal on a plastic plate with a plastic spoon and both reduce your self esteem, while my self esteem is not in any way affected by getting the bus or being served a meal by my friend on a plastic plate with a plastic spoon and nor am I disrespected.

And for your information, in case you misread what you wrote, it was you who introduced self esteem into this conversation.

Shoodboi:


Thanks for schooling him. I've watched several videos of world (and African) leaders moving around and Putin's convoy always stood out. There was one where he left the Kremlin, ...

I doubt very much that the Kremlin is in UK, where lots of Ukrainians are waiting to stone Putin but I guess I'll let you school me some more.

nsiba the born by mistake, joyandfaith VictorUSA. I hope you see your masters perfectly!! Let shame kill you lots man!!

shogsman:
The London times call them lesser leaders

And these lesser leaders irredeemable blinded and zombified bots here on Nairaland would waste no time glorifying same white men and racists western mainstream media. Do you blame them for calling our leaders lesser leaders? We have sheep's and plantation niggaz here doing their biddings by gobbling all that the lying media throws their way. This is pathetic to watch.

DerrickzB:
nsiba the born by mistake, joyandfaith VictorUSA. I hope you see your masters perfectly!! Let shame kill you lots man!!

Budaatum has provided explanation for this. It is only a retard that would keep blaming others for their misfortunes.

budaatum:
Some just like insulting themselves and making themselves feel small.

Canadian PM Justin Trudeau arrived at the Abbey after travelling by bus. He is not an African leader the last time I checked. As did Anthony Albanese of Australia, and Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand, who said she did not understand the "fuss". Revealing she regularly makes her ministers carpool, Jacinda Ardern said yesterday: "I don’t think the bus warrants too much fuss."

But trust some ignorant people to make a fuss.

You're just being ignorant. You overlook the bigger picture to cherry-pick your assertion on what you think is 'balance' on a political pendulum that is otherwise blatantly unbalanced.

For a start, referring to some leaders as 'more important' and others as 'lesser leaders' is class discrimination defined, notwithstanding whether the actors/victims involved are whites or black.

If you call yourself a democracy which hinges on Equality, then every leader that attended the burial should be treated equally. But as usual, George Orwell was, and will always be right; some Animals are more equal than others.

Secondly, you ignored the security risk involved in cramming such huge numbers of leaders in buses. Like a thief, no one knows when terrorist cells may strike. Imagine if they decided to make global headlines by targeting the burial ceremony. A single drone strike or 2 to 3 suicide bombers dressed as security targeted one or both buses successfully, it means half if not all of an entire continent would be mourning the mass death of their leaders in different countries. Think about the political and economic upheaval that would resonate from such a scenario.

Guy, as much as you don't want to believe it, the fact remains that the bus arrangements for African leaders packed like sardines was bad in all aspects.

shogsman:
You could have just let them bring two cars each that still won't be as much as the 30 car convoy Biden brought

Even a single car from each of their embassies would have sufficed.

Broveens42:



And they went to answer roll call ...see them smiling


But I have a feeling, only a person of obj caliber in Africa would have been treated differently... I don't know why
Or He wouldn't attend

Obj would never have taken the bus way.

Appleyard:


You're just being ignorant. You overlook the bigger picture to cherry-pick your assertion on what you think is 'balance' on a political pendulum that is otherwise blatantly unbalanced.

For a start, referring to some leaders as 'more important' and others as 'lesser leaders' is class discrimination defined, notwithstanding whether the actors/victims involved are whites or black.

Ignorance is when one ignores simple facts, so let's see who ignores. Shall we?

For your information. All the invited leaders were asked to get the bus with none treated as 'more important' or 'lesser leader'. Some decided for themselves not to get the bus and brought their own vehicles and paid for their own security, and if anything, defined their own class.

Now scroll up and read my comment where someone implied the G7 leaders are more important. I won't add a link so you'd have to work not to ignore it.

Appleyard:
Obj would never have taken the bus way.

And neither did Buhari take the bus. And if he had taken his car and had to pay the Metropolitan Police in Pounds Sterling for his own security I'm very certain some will be here now wailing about how he's wasting their foreign currency especially when the exchange rate creeps up.

shogsman:

I know born slaves like you won't have a problem with that,even white journalists are calling it blatant disregard, do you know the level of security risk packing every African leader into a bus could cause.
Why did french,Japan,UAE,USA, Spain,king Filipe and more other dignitaries were allowed to bring Thier convoys with them biko

U are the appropriate slave here.
U think like a slave at every given time.

shogsman:

I know born slaves like you won't have a problem with that,even white journalists are calling it blatant disregard, do you know the level of security risk packing every African leader into a bus could cause.
Why did french,Japan,UAE,USA, Spain,king Filipe and more other dignitaries were allowed to bring Thier convoys with them biko

Were they forced ?
Why can't they decline such embarrassment if they think big of themselves.
They believe that they are actually slaves ,even their mentally ill citizens like urself.

Soo many other dignitaries came in a bus and there was no fuss about it.
HATRED HAVE EATEN U OFF

Not my concern.

budaatum:


You obviously know something I don't know.

Canada is a G7 country and their leader got the bus. Germany is G7 and their President Frank-Walter Steinmeier got the bus. Canadian, G7, Justin Trudeau got the bus. G7 Japan sent their Emperor instead of their 'leader' and he got the bus.

Perhaps you meant G2, as UKs Liz Truss does not need to get a bus since she lives around the corner, and I could not find Spain and Italy, though the King of Spain got the bus and China's leader sent a rep. Russia was not invited, which about leaves G1 Biden who did not get the bus, and most likely can't least someone shoots him.

You were saying?

So someone can not shoot the rest that took bus right?


Omo what's good for the goose is also good for the owner.

budaatum:

Ignorance is when one ignores simple facts, so let's see who ignores. Shall we?

For your information. All the invited leaders were asked to get the bus with none treated as 'more important' or 'lesser leader'. Some decided for themselves not to get the bus and brought their own vehicles and paid for their own security, and if anything, defined their own class.

Now scroll up and read my comment where someone implied the G7 leaders are more important. I won't add a link so you'd have to work not to ignore it.

You have moved from being deliberately ignorant to deliberate apologist or what were you trying to achieve by this puerile excuse you put up there?

Is it that you didn't read where the paper described some of the leaders as "lesser leaders" whom same paper anticipated that they would be given the bus option, which rightly happened according to how the organizers arranged it? The paper simply reported what was planned by the organizers and it turned out to be true, so I don't know why you're trying to be an apologist by bringing up the notion that had people like Buhari rode on a motorcade, some people would have said he was wasting our money. That's assumptional excuse that holds no water. The fact remains that the arrangement was degrading, to even suggest it was unwise and poor in terms of security. If their own papers is castigating it, it's simply because that is what it connote: some Animals are more equal than others. Simple.

Appleyard:


You have moved from being deliberately ignorant to deliberate apologist or what were you trying to achieve by this puerile excuse you put up there?

Sorry, but I today refuse to discuss with those who lack manners. When you acquire some, do please hola, or wait till a day when I'm willing to break my rule.