kingyakos:
■ The book of Revelation talks about the endtime, things that will happen before the coming of Christ
■ not things that has happened 2000 years ago.

That is a wrong assumption on your part I am afraid. The book instead speaks of things that have happened even before John began writing, things that were taken place as John was penning it down, and eventually the future to come.

2. The 144,000 were sent out by God from Jerusalem before He destroyed it almost 2000 years ago. Revelations 7 vs 1 - 6, where John writes of no harm being done to the sea and the earth before the 144,000 were all marked, speaks to this. They, the 144,000, God's special people —Isaiah 66 vs 18 - 23— were all marked and sent out by God before He then destroyed the temple, cursed, and scattered the rest of the Jewish nation all over the earth.

Kobojunkie:
That is a wrong assumption on your part I am afraid. The book instead speaks of things that have happened even before John began writing, things that were taken place as John was penning it down, and eventually the future to come.

2. The 144,000 were sent out by God from Jerusalem before He destroyed it almost 2000 years ago. Revelations 7 vs 1 - 6, where John writes of no harm being done to the sea and the earth before the 144,000 were all marked, speaks to this. They, the 144,000, God's special people —Isaiah 66 vs 18 - 23— were all marked and sent out by God before He then destroyed the temple, cursed, and scattered the rest of the Jewish nation all over the earth.

Revelation 1:1 (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

I'm not into argument please.

kingyakos:
Revelation 1:1 (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

I'm not into argument please.

And John wrote that book almost 2000 years ago, and at that point in time, Jesus Christ had already come before and died long before John began writing, so?

Kobojunkie:
And John wrote that book almost 2000 years ago, so?

From Ephesus church age to Laodicea church age ain't up to 2000yrs and by the way how do you calculate it to know it's 2000yrs ago..

kingyakos:
■ From Ephesus church age to Laodicea church age ain't up to 2000yrs
■ and by the way how do you calculate it to know it's 2000yrs ago..

1. Ephesus is merely a tourist site today, the same as Laodicea. Those two churches existed during the first century, almost 2000 years ago.

2. We are today in the year 2023 AD(After Death) meaning Jesus Christ died more than 2000 years ago. And His disciples lived during the first century.

Kobojunkie:
1. Ephesus is merely a tourist site today, the same as Laodicea. Those two churches existed during the first century, almost 2000 years ago.

2. We are today in the year 2023 AD(After Death) meaning Jesus Christ died more than 2000 years ago. And His disciples lived during the first century.

You ain't know what you talking about.
Good night

kingyakos:
You ain't know what you talking about. Good night

So, you actually think Ephesus and Laodicea refer to places that exist to this day? Those places mentioned ceased to exist a very long time ago.

Kobojunkie:
So, you actually think Ephesus and Laodicea refer to places that exist to this day? Those places mentioned ceased to exist a very long time ago.

What's the biblical or spiritual meaning of Laodicea?...

kingyakos:
What's the biblical or spiritual meaning of Laodicea?...

That question makes absolutely no scriptural sense of any kind given that the reference to Laodicea, in John's book of Revelation, was in fact to a group that existed during his time.

Kobojunkie:
That question makes absolutely no scriptural sense of any kind given that the reference to Laodicea, in John's book of Revelation, was in fact to a group that existed during his time.

Truly the scripture can never lie when it says the people of Laodicea are blind poor ratched miserable and naked but don't know it.

kingyakos:
Truly the scripture can never lie when it says the people of Laodicea are blind poor ratched miserable and naked but don't know it.

Scripture isn't the problem instead your convenient interpretation which seeks to add to that which is written is.

Kobojunkie:
Unfortunately, Jesus Christ made it clear in His sermons that He was sent by God only to the lost sheep of Israel - Matthew 15 vs 22 - 24. Jesus Christ also warned His followers not to give that which is Holy to the dogs — non-Israelites — meaning that the New Covenant offer was not available to those who are not Israelites affirming God's own proclamation that He would make the New Covenant only with the House of Jacob - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34

So, no, your church wasn't in heaven at all. Instead, the Church of Jesus Christ refers to all those who belong to Him and they are all Israelites from their birth.

You're pitiably DECEIVED. Didn't you read in the Gospels where Jesus said to the Jews "Your house is left desolate. You will not see me again till you say Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord. You have missed the time of your visitation..."
The New Covenant is established with the church in the Lord's Supper, His Blood and His Flesh. Go and read your Bible again. You're in error. Do you not know that presently the Jewish State of Israel and the Jewish people do not believe JESUS CHRIST as their promised Messiah?

Kobojunkie:
This is definitely a wrong assumption on your part. The sealing of the 144,000 happened almost 2000 years ago before they were then sent out by God from God's Jerusalem into the rest of the world.
The people described in the above passage are instead the multitude who were gathered by the 144,000 from every tribe, every language, every race, and every nation on earth. All of them endured the great suffering that was afflicted upon them by God Himself. He cursed and scattered them to all the ends of the end— subjecting them to great suffering wherever they were sent to.

P.S. Nowhere in the above passage are you informed that the great multitude was in heaven in this chapter. Instead, verse 15 states that the multitude stood before the throne of God worshipping day and night in his temple. Well, the temple is down here on earth, and if they are to worship him here on earth, day and night, when exactly will they be in heaven?

So the 24 Elders, the 4 Creatures and the angels too are on earth before the Throne of God abi?

Gospel2Day:
■ You're pitiably DECEIVED. Didn't you read in the Gospels where Jesus said to the Jews "Your house is left desolate. You will not see me again till you say Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord. You have missed the time of your visitation..."
■ The New Covenant is established with the church in the Lord's Supper, His Blood and His Flesh. Go and read your Bible again. You're in error. Do you not know that presently the Jewish State of Israel and the Jewish people do not believe JESUS CHRIST as their promised Messiah?

1. First of all, the term Jews refers only to those of Israel who are born into the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi. Second, that Jesus Christ said the Nation of Judah would be left desolate until He returns, does not mean Jesus Christ lied when He warned His followers, during the sermon of the mouth, not to give to dogs that which is holy, and it certainly does not mean God changed His mind about sending Jesus Christ only to the Lost sheep of Israel - Matthew 7 vs 6 & Matthew 15 vs 5 - 8.

■ God never told you that His desire for Israel was pivoted on Israel obeying Him or loving Him back. In fact, it is more the case that Israel is God's slave/prisoner through this entire ordeal described in scripture. So for you to think that it matters what the present Jewish state of Israel are up to or believ means you don't even understand God and His plan at all.

Gospel2Day:
So the 24 Elders, the 4 Creatures and the angels too are on earth before the Throne of God abi?

Read what is written with your eyes open. Were the 24 elders and 4 creatures described as worshipping God from His temple — in Jerusalem, Planet Earth— day and night?

Kobojunkie:
1. First of all, the term Jews refers only to those of Israel who are born into the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi. Second, that Jesus Christ said the Nation of Judah would be left desolate until He returns, does not mean Jesus Christ lied when He warned His followers, during the sermon of the mouth, not to give to dogs that which is holy, and it certainly does not mean God changed His mind about sending Jesus Christ only to the Lost sheep of Israel - Matthew 7 vs 6 & Matthew 15 vs 5 - 8.

■ God never told you that His desire for Israel was pivoted on Israel obeying Him or loving Him back. In fact, it is more the case that Israel is God's slave/prisoner through this entire ordeal described in scripture. So for you to think that it matters what the present Jewish state of Israel are up to or believ means you don't even understand God and His plan at all.

Go and read The Plan Of God In Fusing The Jews And Gentiles Into One Body In Christ. Read Ephesians Chapters 1, 2 &3.
You don't understand the Ministry of Apostle Paul at all.
Good night.

Gospel2Day:
Go and read The Plan Of God In Fusing The Jews And Gentiles Into One Body In Christ. Read Ephesians Chapters 1, 2 &3. You don't understand the Ministry of Apostle Paul at all. Good night.

Are you trying to tell us that Paul went against Jesus Christ, putting together his own plan to include the dogs -- non-Israelites--- whom Jesus Christ instead said could absolutely not have anything to do with the Kingdom of God?,

What you are saying is that Paul was not infact a follower in Jesus Christ since according to your belief Paul went against Jesus making himself a Messiah for the non-Israelites that Jesus Christ did not accept?,

Kobojunkie:
Are you trying to tell us that Paul went against Jesus Christ, putting together his own plan to include the dogs -- non-Israelites--- whom Jesus Christ instead said could absolutely not have anything to do with the Kingdom of God?,

What you are saying is that Paul was not infact a follower in Jesus Christ since according to your belief Paul went against Jesus making himself a Messiah for the non-Israelites that Jesus Christ did not accept?,

Jesus Christ Himself said Go Into all the world and preach the gospel, whoever believes would be saved.
He worked in phases as Paul put it in Romans chapter 1, "first to the Jews and next to the Gentiles".
You're very ignorant of the Gospel Plan Of God to save both Jews and Gentiles through Jesus Christ.
Read the Bible for yourself. You're obviously following the teaching of a false teacher and a fake church.

Gospel2Day:
■Jesus Christ Himself said Go Into all the world and preach the gospel, whoever believes would be saved.
■He worked in phases as Paul put it in Romans chapter 1, "first to the Jews and next to the Gentiles". You're very ignorant of the Gospel Plan Of God to save both Jews and Gentiles through Jesus Christ.
■ Read the Bible for yourself. You're obviously following the teaching of a false teacher and a fake church.

1. God Himself cursed and scattered His Israel to all the four winds meaning that His Isreal is found in every tribe, every tongue, and every nation of this earth - Deuteronomy 30 vs 1 - 6 & Isaiah 66 vs 18 - 23. So, Jesus aptly sent His followers into the world to gather their brothers and sisters back to God's Jerusalem as God Himself said would be the case. And since God already said only the House of Jacob would be saved, it means that only those who believe from among the House of Jacob will be saved - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34 & Matthew 15 vs 22 - 26.

2. Jesus Christ told you on the cross, "It is finished", but here you contradict Him by claiming He worked on Phases. What that means is that you don't believe or trust the Words of Jesus Christ, and would rather attribute godhood to a man called Paul in order that you can pretend to lay claim to that which He says no to. Are you certain that I am the ignorant individual here?

3. Take your own advice. Don't just read that book. Make a decision to accept what is written in it, as opposed to injecting your private delusions between the lines, so you can finally see and know what Jesus Christ proclaimed from all the lies swimming around in your head there.

Kobojunkie:
1. God Himself cursed and scattered His Israel to all the four winds meaning that His Isreal is found in every tribe, every tongue, and every nation of this earth - Deuteronomy 30 vs 1 - 6 & Isaiah 66 vs 18 - 23. So, Jesus aptly sent His followers into the world to gather their brothers and sisters back to God's Jerusalem as God Himself said would be the case. And since God already said only the House of Jacob would be saved, it means that only those who believe from among the House of Jacob will be saved - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34 & Matthew 15 vs 22 - 26.

2. Jesus Christ told you on the cross, "It is finished", but here you contradict Him by claiming He worked on Phases. What that means is that you don't believe or trust the Words of Jesus Christ, and would rather attribute godhood to a man called Paul in order that you can pretend to lay claim to that which He says no to. Are you certain that I am the ignorant individual here?

3. Take your own advice. Don't just read that book. Make a decision to accept what is written in it, as opposed to injecting your private delusions between the lines, so you can finally see and know what Jesus Christ proclaimed from all the lies swimming around in your head there.

You've a huge problem with Deductive Reasoning.
I can't help you until that inability of yours is fixed.
Read Revelation 7 you will see that after the Sealing of the 144000 Jews there are numerous Gentiles too in heaven.
May God heal your mental deficiency.
Happy Sunday.

Gospel2Day:
■ You've a huge problem with Deductive Reasoning.
■I can't help you until that inability of yours is fixed.
■Read Revelation 7 you will see that after the Sealing of the 144000 Jews there are numerous Gentiles too in heaven.
May God heal your mental deficiency.
Happy Sunday.

1. So your idea of what deductive reasoning is involves disregarding Jesus Christ in order to assert your delusions regarding Paul over Him?

2. I never asked your help since it is instead apparent the one who needs help is you who claim by mouth to believe in Jesus Christ when in reality it is apparent you trust Paul, a man, more than you trust Jesus Christ.

3. Revelations 7 tells you of the 144,000 who are obviously Israelites along with the multitudes who were redeemed by the Lamb of God and make up the Kingdom of Priests to rule the world with the Lamb. Well, guess what? Jesus Christ already informed you that He was sent by God to redeem only those who are of the House of Jacob - Matthew 7 vs 6 & Matthew 15 vs 24 - and God already informed you that only the children of Israel will make up His Kingdom of Priests- Exodus 19 vs 6.

So you have a serious decision to make , which is, will you continue deceiving yourself while believing Jesus Christ a liar or will you accept His Truth and whatever consequences that may result. Your choice and your life! Either way, what is clear is you don't know nor trust Jesus Christ. What you instead trust in are the lies you have been fed using His name by other men.

Kobojunkie:
1. So your idea of what deductive reasoning is involves disregarding Jesus Christ in order to assert your delusions regarding Paul over Him?

2. I never asked your help since it is instead apparent the one who needs help is you who claim by mouth to believe in Jesus Christ when in reality it is apparent you trust Paul, a man, more than you trust Jesus Christ.

3. Revelations 7 tells you of the 144,000 who are obviously Israelites along with the multitudes who were redeemed by the Lamb of God and make up the Kingdom of Priests to rule the world with the Lamb. Well, guess what? Jesus Christ already informed you that He was sent by God to redeem only those who are of the House of Jacob - Matthew 7 vs 6 & Matthew 15 vs 24 - and God already informed you that only the children of Israel will make up His Kingdom of Priests- Exodus 19 vs 6.

So you have a serious decision to make , which is, will you continue deceiving yourself while believing Jesus Christ a liar or will you accept His Truth and whatever consequences that may result. Your choice and your life! Either way, what is clear is you don't know nor trust Jesus Christ. What you instead trust in are the lies you have been fed using His name by other men.

Answer this simple question; Those great multitudes in Revelation 7 are they in heaven or on earth? They were given white robes and were told to be patient till other believing Jewish and Gentile Christians die and join them.
Is that happening on earth or in heaven?
The problem you have is that you're a Linear (Simplistic) Thinker. You need to graduate to being a Loop (Complex) Thinker (ability to make sense of multiple facts and truths).

Gospel2Day:
■ Answer this simple question; Those great multitudes in Revelation 7 are they in heaven or on earth?
■ They were given white robes and were told to be patient till other believing Jewish and Gentile Christians die and join them.
■Is that happening on earth or in heaven?
■The problem you have is that you're a Linear (Simplistic) Thinker. You need to graduate to being a Loop (Complex) Thinker (ability to make sense of multiple facts and truths).

1. John clearly explained to you that they were all right here on earth.

2. I am afraid you are writing a different novel at this point since there is no mention of what you claim here in Revelation 7.

3. Everyone of the 144,000 along with the multitudes, mentioned in Revelations 7, is described as standing right on earth as they look out to the throne of God in Heaven. Recall, Heaven is the throne room and the earth is His footstool. Well, when Jesus Christ returns to reign, the throne will be visible from right here on earth, and those who worship Him — humans — will do so standing right here on earth, at least before judgment day. This is what is written in scripture.

4. These are all unnecessary as I didn't write scripture and I am not to blame for your twisting of what is clearly written in order to have to suit what is a private interpretation of yours.

Glory be to God. It is your turn to trend in life.

How God connected Hannah to her miracle - God gives the barren children.

Do you know how God connected Hannah to her miracle? It was through a simple process and instrument that you can follow also.
In 10 powerful minutes, I explain to the world in simple terms the connection Hannah got and how she got that connection.
God is the connector of the unconnected. Let Him connect you the same way he connected Hannah.
Your story of barrenness will change to fruitfulness today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vvovtZtRjc

AmeLonRo:
Glory be to God. It is your turn to trend in life.
How God connected Hannah to her miracle - God gives the barren children.
Do you know how God connected Hannah to her miracle? It was through a simple process and instrument that you can follow also.
In 10 powerful minutes, I explain to the world in simple terms the connection Hannah got and how she got that connection.
God is the connector of the unconnected. Let Him connect you the same way he connected Hannah.
Your story of barrenness will change to fruitfulness today.

Please stop going around telling these lies to people!

Jesus Christ did not come that you may have a child. He instead came to call those who will follow Him instead of settling for all that which is of the world. He even informed you that your marriages are not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 - at the same time informing you that those who choose to live as Eunuchs for the sake of the His Kingdom have the blessing of God on their side - Matthew 19 vs 12 - a blessing that is not associated with the married or even those who have children.