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Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by NEIGHBOUR(m): 9:29am On Sep 30, 2022
[quote author=Ylink4sure post=117126045]Mr 'Who can read and understand',Pele! Continue to defend the undefendable!

A news story that is not to be subjected to any major interpretation as he reiterated his assertions in multiple statements is what you are breaking down for us only for you to even embarrass yourself by muddling things up in your attempt at clarifying.

Still laughing in Chinese!!! Obedients have their own dictionary of meanings.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Mitsurugi(m): 9:31am On Sep 30, 2022
Ylink4sure:
Mr 'Who can read and understand',Pele! Continue to defend the undefendable!

A news story that is not to be subjected to any major interpretation as he reiterated his assertions in multiple statements is what you are breaking down for us only for you to even embarrass yourself by muddling things up in your attempt at clarifying.








Oga that you took what you wanted from that interview to suit your narrative or belief does not mean your view is the proper perspective. Logic should be compulsory from nursery school undecided
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Jeffy1206(m): 9:33am On Sep 30, 2022
asanausana91:
When I tell these zombiedients that Obi is going to be the worst president if we make a mistake of voting him.
is you who don't understand him at all. Do you want him to castigate his opponent? No!! Leave the criticism and vawulence to we the supporters tongue grin
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by OPPPS: 9:33am On Sep 30, 2022
GardenOfGod:
Obi for the rescue grin


OBI-DATTI are ready.

Lagos are you ready?
We are ready in Anambra on Monday

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Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Mitsurugi(m): 9:35am On Sep 30, 2022
[quote author=NEIGHBOUR post=117133926][/quote]


Yes they do. But do you not also see that not being different from BAT, Atiku and others means they're all the SAME. So if you agree with PO on that then it means that whatever BAT, Atiku and others are, he is and vice versa grin So if he's a liar, incompetent and all then it follows logically that BAT, Atiku and others are the same. Don't insult me o, I'm using logic based on the feedback from you.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by SugarGirl44(f): 9:38am On Sep 30, 2022
Wisfem:

To Read and Understand Most of you could not?? whilst you quickly rush to comment!! What he Rightly said "This is a developing country, the ideologies are not different" What that simply means is that Every one here including you the ignoramus knows that the country needs some developmental drives, Security and rest of others, but which of his opposition can be trusted!! APC'sTinubu that has been in power since 7yeras ago or Pdp's Atiku that ruled with Obasanjor? He said you people should hold us accountable now, He is involving all the youths, that's why he said we have to take back our country, so the country belongs to we all especially the youths that has suffered gross exclusion...

Sharap!
You'll defend any rubbish as long it's from obi.
It means you're all dull like him.
You can't claim that you're different and at the same time say you all have the same ideology, that's contradictory.

If it was another candidate that made the unintelligent comment, you would have used it as a campaign point againt him.
Laslas y'all just want an ibo to be president, whether a blind or lame ibo, it doesn't matter to y'all.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by EJ1000: 9:39am On Sep 30, 2022
dheilaw1:
I thought Zombidients said Obituary is different from the old politicians

You are not thinking straight obviously. Go watch the interview and leave hypocrisy and hate.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by OPPPS: 9:39am On Sep 30, 2022
The Pandora fraud is not new to those of us who have known him when he was A Gov
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by SugarGirl44(f): 9:39am On Sep 30, 2022
OPPPS:

We are ready in Anambra on Monday

Seconded!
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by OPPPS: 9:40am On Sep 30, 2022
EJ1000:


You are not thinking straight obviously. Go watch the interview and leave hypocrisy and hate.

Typical lying zombident you will deny it as usual
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Daum: 9:41am On Sep 30, 2022
SmartyPants:


You guys are clueless honestly. You don't even understand basic things like the fact that the Labour party does have a distinct econonic and social ideaology.

But Obi cant acknowledge that because his ideaology is different.

And he does have a distinct ideaology. When he talks about moving from consumption to production, his ideaology is industrialisation. But truly i don't think even he believes that because in the next breath he talks about controlling inflation through contractionary monetary policy. Which would undermine industrialisation.

So i don't think any of you, both Obi and Obidients, have a clue what we mean by ideaology.


Idealogies are different. There are economic and political idealogies. Some idealogies are shaped into the fabrics of foriegn policies and also entrenched in national psyche of the people.

Most of our political parties as he rightly said don't have an idealogy. Let's be honest. All they have is copy and paste materials. Most of these parties have no ideas on how they view Nigeria and the rest of the world or which economic principles they believe will take them forward. One man's belief is not the same as a party's idealogy.

An example is the Kemalist Idealogy that formed the Turkish Republic. That Idealogy is central to the Main opposition party in Turkey and also part of the fabric of the Turkish society. This idealogy is a doctrine in the Turkish military which by some has sworn to defend it.

Nigeria doesn't have an idealogy nor do most of it's political parties. They're just vehicles via which elections can be won that's why CPC, ACN, ANPP and nPDP can transform into a new political party just to win an election in less than 4 years instead of each party maintaining it's own structure and forming a coalition and then sharing power as it is done elsewhere.

It's one of the reason Politicians can decamp and recamp anywhere they find themselves. So what Obi said is not far from the truth. If we had political parties with idealogies then it was in the first republic and not this current dispensation.

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Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by BigIyanga: 9:41am On Sep 30, 2022
Most folks commenting dont know what ideology keans and its application to Nigerian politics. What are the social, fiscal and monetary idealogical differences btw Obi and Atiku vs BAT??
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by SugarGirl44(f): 9:43am On Sep 30, 2022
Ylink4sure:
Mr 'Who can read and understand',Pele! Continue to defend the undefendable!

A news story that is not to be subjected to any major interpretation as he reiterated his assertions in multiple statements is what you are breaking down for us only for you to even embarrass yourself by muddling things up in your attempt at clarifying

As in.... grin grin grin grin
The guy's really trying so hard to defend the dull trader, but still o lule.

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Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by atinga1: 9:45am On Sep 30, 2022
olaboy33:
Just as we painted Buhari as a messiah in 2015, I'm afraid a similar mistake is being made with PO by building a profile of him even him would deny.

So, this is the new propaganda?
Comparing a successful business man to a clueless ex-military head of state, who did nothing but collected salary, after his years of military service.
Everybody is not as slow as you are.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Geesaintagape: 9:48am On Sep 30, 2022
Mr Obi doesn't want people to feel disappointed when he starts messing up.
He understands the system very but being hungry for power he wants to be president

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Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by SugarGirl44(f): 9:49am On Sep 30, 2022
baretalk:
Exactly, only that he is more dull, and an Ipobian, who will lead ipob to secession. This is his sole aim. Am scared, we will spend all our time dealing with ipob issues if obi wins. He will be a president for Ipob.

Isn't it better for them to leave and the country divides?
Good riddance to them.
Every region should govern itself, it's much better.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by IfnobeGod20: 9:50am On Sep 30, 2022
If truth must be said, is there any ideological differences in our political terrain. No, everyone are jumping from one party to another and if not joining a ready made party, they flout another one and leave their old party to rut. Obi has moved from ApGA to PDP and from PDP to now LP. Atiku has moved from PDP to ACN, from ACN to PDP, from PDP to APC and back to PDP while Tinubu left AD and formed a new party AC and AC metamorphosed to ACN and today the same ACN has merged with other parties to formed APC. Where lies the ideology in all these that none of them can't stay in one party because they always flow to where their internet will be buttered.
Meanwhile, in governance, there is no politician that doesn't know the problems of the country but how many of them are ready to solve it head-on? If not chasing shadows. But the difference is the trust they have in an individual which they exhibited in their former assignment. Whether they allocate government land to themselves, their family members or crony. Or still collecting bogus pension and entitlement meant for the development of the state and so on and that was what he said afterwards the statement quoted.
So, if we think deeply he was right that all of them have the same ideology but the difference is the trust they have on individual, character the individual has, courage to do the right thing and the competence of the individual.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Daum: 9:51am On Sep 30, 2022
SugarGirl44:


Sharap!
You'll defend any rubbish as long it's from obi.
It means you're all dull like him.
You can't claim that you're different and at the same time say you all have the same ideology, that's contradictory.

If it was another candidate that made the unintelligent comment, you would have used it as a campaign point againt him.
Laslas y'all just want an ibo to be president, whether a blind or lame ibo, it doesn't matter to y'all.


Well a political party's Idealogy can be different from beliefs of the individual politician. I think that's where you start having spectrum on maybe right, left or centrist or far of either.

In religion for example, the principle idealogy if I may say of Christianity is Jesus as the center piece. Yet you have different beliefs around this idea of Jesus.

The same with Islam, so you have different beliefs within Islam or school of thoughts yet the core Idea is that there is only one God and Muhammad is his prophet. The salafist will lean in a certain direction, the wahabis will do same also.


First of all, I believe that the Nigerian state doesn't have an idealogy, although it was supposed to be built around our motto but well it's just a facade. Our political parties don't even have anything they believe on.

So in all honesty, what Obi said is not far from the truth. The only thing meaningful they are selling as aspirants is trust. He said it, just who do we trust.
Maybe with time we will start having these things take shape and form. For now, no we don't have idealogies

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Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by obailala(m): 9:56am On Sep 30, 2022
Too much ignorance in one thread; I see a lot of Tinubu and Atiku supporters going beserk over this simple fact by Obi.

"Dr Paul Enenche of Dunamis ministries and Evans the kidnapper are both Christians; both men share the same religious ideology, but both are different in character."

Above statement needs no explanation...

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Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by IfnobeGod20: 9:57am On Sep 30, 2022
Daum:



Idealogies are different. There are economic and political idealogies. Some idealogies are shaped into the fabrics of foriegn policies and also entrenched in national psyche of the people.

Most of our political parties as he rightly said don't have an idealogy. Let's be honest. All they have is copy and paste materials. Most of these parties have no ideas on how they view Nigeria and the rest of the world or which economic principles they believe will take them forward. One man's belief is not the same as a party's idealogy.

An example is the Kemalist Idealogy that formed the Turkish Republic. That Idealogy is central to the Main opposition party in Turkey and also part of the fabric of the Turkish society. This idealogy is a doctrine in the Turkish military which by some has sworn to defend it.

Nigeria doesn't have an idealogy nor do most of it's political parties. They're just vehicles via which elections can be won that's why CPC, ACN, ANPP and nPDP can transform into a new political party just to win an election in less than 4 years instead of each party maintaining it's own structure and forming a coalition and then sharing power as it is done elsewhere.

It's one of the reason Politicians can decamp and recamp anywhere they find themselves. So what Obi said is not far from the truth. If we had political parties with idealogies then it was in the first republic and not this current dispensation.
God bless you for schooling this people. The question asked was solely on political ideology and even the unborn child know that there is no single political ideology in Nigeria polity. No single one for that matter but the mischievous ones trying hard to misinterpret it to mean talking on governance.
I think there is need to start referring them back to the question asked for them to stop dancing macabre dance.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Daum: 9:57am On Sep 30, 2022
IfnobeGod20:
If truth must be said, is there any ideological differences in our political terrain. No, everyone are jumping from one party to another and if not joining a ready made party, they flout another one and leave their old party to rut. Obi has moved from ApGA to PDP and from PDP to now LP. Atiku has moved from PDP to ACN, from ACN to PDP, from PDP to APC and back to PDP while Tinubu left AD and formed a new party AC and AC metamorphosed to ACN and today the same ACN has merged with other parties to formed APC. Where lies the ideology in all these that none of them can't stay in one party because they always flow to where their internet will be buttered.
Meanwhile, in governance, there is no politician that doesn't know the problems of the country but how many of them are ready to solve it head-on? If not chasing shadows. But the difference is the trust they have in an individual which they exhibited in their former assignment. Whether they allocate government land to themselves, their family members or crony. Or still collecting bogus pension and entitlement meant for the development of the state and so on and that was what he said afterwards the statement quoted.
So, if we think deeply he was right that all of them have the same ideology but the difference is the truth they have on individual, character the individual has, courage to do the right thing and the competence of the individual.


You just wrote my mind. I am not even sure if the socialist party of Nigeria believes in socialism or would want to practice it if elected...

No matter how tribal we might want to see the political parties of the first republic, they had idealogies. Like it or not these where ideas. The parties we have now just want to win elections and have access to state resources. Nothing new
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Lawrry(m): 10:01am On Sep 30, 2022
Xbobtage:
I guess this will be misconstrued.

ideology
/ˌʌɪdɪˈɒlədʒi/
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noun
1.
a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy.
"the ideology of democracy"


For those who cant understand english, Ideology means what you are offering to do. What the article is saying is that OBi said all the candidates are offering to be able to solve the problem of nigeria. The question is who of these candidates can you believe will do it.

So they are all saying they will fix nigerian, but we know those that are pulling our legs.

You are blessed, the womb that produces you is blessed and your entire lineage is blessed.

At first, I do wonder why the British that colonized us, do insist that we should write a test of English Language IELTS before we enter their country. Before, I do feel it is an insult but, I can't but support them over and over again.
It's a pity that, an average Nigerian read to interpret but not to comprehend, even though, we think that we've comprehended, we misquote the context and content of the of the sentence.
This is one reason I don't always comment on Nairaland, because, before you say Jack, they will say Robinson.
Good bless you.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by oneMalik: 10:02am On Sep 30, 2022
Fear QUESTION O !

Lack of ideology is what the interviewer want Obi to exhibit there and they got him ....

you share the same idea with atiku and tinubu , how ? from where to where ?

I never pick wrong candidate cos I always do on scale .

OBI IS A BOY and Aso rock is not for children .

Question can send someone to prison even without doing nothing .


look at him ..... what he's selling now is trust ... to Who ?
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by obailala(m): 10:03am On Sep 30, 2022
SugarGirl44:


Sharap!
You'll defend any rubbish as long it's from obi.
It means you're all dull like him.
You can't claim that you're different and at the same time say you all have the same ideology, that's contradictory.

If it was another candidate that made the unintelligent comment, you would have used it as a campaign point againt him.
Laslas y'all just want an ibo to be president, whether a blind or lame ibo, it doesn't matter to y'all.
"Dr Paul Enenche of Dunamis ministries and Evans the kidnapper are both Christians; they both share the same religious ideology, but both are different in character."

Above statement needs no explanation. What Obi said is a factual statement; Nigeria's politics hasnt matured to the point where politicians or political parties or political movements have different ideologies.

If say for instance, IPOB is turned to a political party with the principal aim of balkanising Nigeria (i.e. a seaparatist ideology), that will be a different political ideology from PDP, APC and the rest. Or if Boko Haram or ISWAP becomes a political party with the aim to enshrine Shariah rule all over Nigeria (i.e. a religious reformation ideology), that will be a separate ideology from APC, PDP, LP etc.

But as things stand now, all the political parties and candidates still stand for the same thing so they all basically have same ideology. Personal character is what differentiates the candidates currently, not political ideology. So if you still think Obi goofed with that statement, then you simply just do not understand politics.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Goodoldays(m): 10:09am On Sep 30, 2022
Kasssandra:


Well, i didn't say you should not vote for Obi, so relax.

My views are my own. They don't affect you in amy way..so stop being afraid


It’s not even about voting Obi and I’m not afraid because I know not everybody will vote for him and it’s okay.You didn’t get the point Obi made that’s what I was saying but that’s okay too.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by TrumpDonald2: 10:11am On Sep 30, 2022
Ylink4sure:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/atiku-and-i-have-no-ideological-differences-says-peter-obi/


So,there you have it! Those of you who insisted this man (Obi) was bringing anything new to the table.I'm waiting for you to defend this.

I have said this,he and his supporters will score many own goals prelude to the election. This is just one of many to come.

Obi will continue to give you headache for the rest of your life. His winning is sure. If he's not a threat, you won't be bothered. So the earlier you stop this rubbish, the better for you all especially if you are doing this rubbish for free.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Pascaldebravoo: 10:17am On Sep 30, 2022
Ylink4sure:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/atiku-and-i-have-no-ideological-differences-says-peter-obi/


So,there you have it! Those of you who insisted this man (Obi) was bringing anything new to the table.I'm waiting for you to defend this.

I have said this,he and his supporters will score many own goals prelude to the election. This is just one of many to come.

They are so many educated illiterates in Nairaland. They simply read without comprehension.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by kwasoly(m): 10:28am On Sep 30, 2022
Ylink4sure:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/atiku-and-i-have-no-ideological-differences-says-peter-obi/


So,there you have it! Those of you who insisted this man (Obi) was bringing anything new to the table.I'm waiting for you to defend this.

I have said this,he and his supporters will score many own goals prelude to the election. This is just one of many to come.


Nobody said he is bringing anything new, we only said he is the best option we can trust with our lives based on his integrity and selflessness.
Why do you keep ur money in the bank?
Can you entrust ur finance with bullion man or Dubai man and be rest assured anytime you come he will give u back without excuse?
Obi is that man that I can give my ATM card pls pin and won't be scared.
Go n verify
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by deeva2: 10:31am On Sep 30, 2022
MrCGPA:
Peter Gregory Obi is a man very difficult to Dent his image. You should have shown the Video of his Speech let's take you Serious and not trying to Cut Conners.

Its very obvious that most zombidients are not updated...Its on the internet/youtube..

Go and verify.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by ada9ja(f): 10:40am On Sep 30, 2022
dheilaw1:
I thought Zombidients said Obituary is different from the old politicians

To have a head is different, to have a brain is Al's different but to have a good head with a working brain is unique....

He said he is left to Nigerians to vote who they trust to fullfil the ideology they have
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by Nobody: 10:41am On Sep 30, 2022
Goodoldays:



It’s not even about voting Obi and I’m not afraid because I know not everybody will vote for him and it’s okay.You didn’t get the point Obi made that’s what I was saying but that’s okay too.

I understood him very well.
Re: Peter Obi: I am Not Different Ideologicaly From Atiku, Tinubu And Others by TheExclusive: 10:45am On Sep 30, 2022
Peter Obi talks from a higher level of reasoning which only few people understand. He is actually right about what he said.

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