paxonel:
They were all used figuratively like parables.
The literal meaning of these synonyms is death or grave.
Remember, Adam and Even sinned from the beginning and death came, that death is what Jesus meant by hell fire.
It's simply a state of not believing in Christ.
For the Jews who didn't believe but keep burning fire and sacrificing and salting animals to preserve it from decay all for attornment of their sins, that was the hell fire Jesus meant

Mark 9:49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.

It's a parable statement or figurative statement that applies to all religions who didn't believe in Christ including the Jews who had the old Abrahamic covenant

MaxInDHouse:


Since creation till today the one and only man who is no longer in his Grave (Hell) is Jesus and that's because he has been resurrected and seen by his disciples, billions are still in Hell (Grave) till today!
Before the resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous to life on earth all false prophets and demons will be destroyed this means they will die, after resurrection Christ will reign for 1,000 years during his reign righteous people won't grow old, get sick or die and after that only Satan will be released from the state of inactivity to test survivors on earth but afterwards Satan will be sent to the same condition where all the demons and false prophets has been for the 1,000 years.

That's the meaning of what you're quoting!

Ken4Christ:

Read the scripture verse again. It says;
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be TORMENTED DAY and NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER." (Revelation 20:10).
It states clearly that the torment will be night and day. It added that it will be forever.
But you teach otherwise. This is why I say Jehovah Witness is an anti Christ organization.
They oppose every truth of God's word.
Come out from among them lest you be condemned with them.

MaxInDHouse:


Sodom and Gomorrah has been destroyed for more than 4,000 years now but when the name of those cities are mentioned everyone remembers how God rained fire from heaven to consume the cities as if the rain of fire is still falling. That's what torment forever and ever symbolises!

Ken4Christ:


The scripture says that Sodom and Gomorrah are still suffering;

Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.

I hope you read English in school. The word suffering is a present continuous term. It didn't say suffered which is past tense but it said, suffering, which is present continuous term.

And it added, eternal fire. It means they are in hell burning.

The physical fire that burnt their physical body is no longer burning. But their soul is suffering in eternal fire.

I know that you will still find a way to explain it out.

Ken4Christ:


You too have been brainwashed. So, this thing call brainwashing is real that even if evidences proves otherwise, you will hold on to lies.

Answer this question, the wailing and gnashing of teeth that Jesus says those in hell is also parable?

A fire that will never quench is also parable.

They will be tormented day and night is also parable?

I never believed that people could be so brainwashed that they can reason straight anymore.

It also means heaven is not real. Heaven is a parable.

Very soon, you will say that Jesus is a parable.

MaxInDHouse:

So are you saying those people has been judged before the judgment day so there's no resurrection for them?

Ken4Christ:


The scripture says that Sodom and Gomorrah are still suffering;

Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.

I hope you read English in school. The word suffering is a present continuous term. It didn't say suffered which is past tense but it said, suffering, which is present continuous term.

And it added, eternal fire. It means they are in hell burning.

The physical fire that burnt their physical body is no longer burning. But their soul is suffering in eternal fire.

I know that you will still find a way to explain it out.

Janosky:

Hellfire GIBBERISH done confuse that low budget pastorpreneur.

Ken4Christ:
There are so many people who don't believe that hell is real even among professing believers and some religious sects. But it is real. The very teachings of our Lord Jesus affirms its reality. I want to use this opportunity to begin to unveil the teachings of our Lord Jesus on this subject.

Before I begin, I will like to mention different synonyms used for hell in the course of Christ teachings. They are;

1. Hell
2. Hell fire
3. Furnace of fire.
4. Fire.
5. Everlasting fire.
6. Fire that is not quenched.
7. Outer darkness.

Janosky:

At no time in the holy scriptures,did Jesus Christ EVER say hellfire.
Rather Jesus Christ said "Gehenna" which Christendom changed to "hellfire" .
Gehenna is a place of destruction not eternal torture.
No 3 to 7,na Christendom FALSE interpretation.

Janosky:


Why does Ken teach a doctrine Jesus Christ NEVER taught?
Luke 17:26-29, Jesus Christ doctrine:
“Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. [/b]27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day [b]Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all."

Luke 17:26-29,Did Jesus Christ EVER speak of Sodom/Gomorrah eternal torture in the holy scriptures?

No !

Luke 17:26-29, Jesus Christ doctrine :
"just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man."
Did Jesus Christ say souls of Evildoers of Noah's day & Sodom Gomorrah are tortured forever?

No !

paxonel:
did you read the part that Jesus asked his disciples if they had understood what he was saying to them and they said yes, they understood? Matthew 15:31

I doubt that the disciples understood what he was saying, because everything he said there were not spoken literally, they were parables..

It was after this resurrection that Jesus literally expanciated to his disciples all he was saying, that every events that preceded his crucixion were already spoken by Moses and all the prophets, then they began to recall and understood all these things he was saying in parables Matthew 24:27

the wailing and gnashing of teeth there literally implies that there will be separation in the last day or end time(that is, the time of Jesus crucixion. Act 2;17), some people will be separated to become Christians after Christ resurrection(remember, Jesus resurrection brought about Christianity today) while some will not be selected. Those that will not be selected will wail and gnash their teeth, it's as simple as that.
it is, my brother!
Revelation described it as Lake of fire.
To interprete what that Lake of fire is, it simply called it THE SECOND DEATH.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

The parable term is lake of fire or hell fire.
It literal meaning is simply death or the second death

That means, the individual will never come back to life again, because Adam and Eve sinned from the beginning and death came, so did Christ died and brought back eternal life that was lost as a result of Adam and Eve's disobedience
it is now!

Look at it again,

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

That torment is simply death in the real sense ,the second death.
you never thought that religion could brainwash you all these while?
Have you ever asked yourself why they say religion is the opium of the people, do you know the meaning of the word opium?
Heaven is simply people on earth in the real sense.
Believers!
you had better create time, calm down and read your bible from Genesis to revelation and understand everything for yourself.
Leave religion.

MaxInDHouse:

So are you saying those people has been judged before the judgment day so there's no resurrection for them?

Ken4Christ:


Trying hard to defend lies at the expense of your soul. Deep within you know that you are lying.

So, when Jesus narrated the events of the last days in Matthew 24, it was also a parable.

He predicted the destruction of Jerusalem which took place literally in AD 70.

And you have been made to believe that all that Jesus taught or said was parable.

Don't worry, demons will use you for parable after you die. I just wished I will be there to supervise your punishment.

You see clear truth with clear illustrations of what will become of lost souls, you call it a parable.

Why not admit you are wrong and be the hero to rescue innocent souls from your evil cult.

Ken4Christ:


They will be released for final judgment. This is why the scripture says that hell gave up those who were in them. Read the full narration below;

Revelation 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and HELL DELIVERED UP THE DEAD WHICH WERE IN THEM: and THEY WERE JUDGED every man according to their works. note

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Hell is the cell where they are kept awaiting trial or final judgment.

The Lake of Fire is the prison.

The same thing happens on earth. When you are arrested, some people are detained in cells. After judgment they are sent to the prisons.

The only difference is that once you are in hell, you don't stand the chance of being discharged on the final judgment day.

God will only present evidences against you to justify your punishment.

This is why the passage above says that books will be opened. These are books of records of your works while on earth.

The other books that will be opened are the books of the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:


Do your ancestors worship Jesus?
If not where are they now?

Ken4Christ:

For those who never had the opportunity to hear the gospel, God will judge them by the law he placed in their conscience. Whether you are a Christian or not, there is a conscience in every man that let you know good from bad.

MaxInDHouse:

So they will be ushered to heaven without believing in Jesus shey?

Ken4Christ:

God is the judge. Be concerned about yourself.

MaxInDHouse:

That's why you need more understanding instead of telling people that they're going to some stupid hellfire!

Ken4Christ:


You are calling the Bible stupid and also Jesus. I didn't introduce the subject. It is very clear in the Bible. You are the one calling it what it is not because you have been indoctrinated and brainwashed by that wicked leader, Russell who is in hell suffering from his false teachings.

Don't worry, when you join him, you will curse the day you became a Jehovah Witness.

You are truly beyond redemption.

Ken4Christ:

God is the judge.

MaxInDHouse:


I thought you typed this:



Ọmọ you're the most stupid Nairalander!

Ken4Christ:

Those who don't believe in Jesus are already condemned. Jesus said .

MaxInDHouse:


You don't believe in Jesus at all, Satan has blinded you with lies instead of the Good News of God's Kingdom you're anticipating torture for your enemies!

Ken4Christ:


You don't know God. If you know him, you will fear him and believe the scripture. You are so full of unbelief because you have been brainwashed to think that God does not punish anyone or can not use fire to torment anyone. But the scripture teaches otherwise.

The writer of Hebrews says;

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

In another place, it is written;

Hebrews 10:31. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

A little disobedience could attracts God's judgment.

Remember what happened to the first man, Adam.

What about the first world that was destroyed with flood? Only one family of eight people survived.

What about the fire he rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah?

Was the fire he rained on Sodom and Gomorrah literal or not? If it was literal, who says he can't use literal fire to punish people?

Just show me one scripture that says God can't use or don't use fire to torment.

Rather, there are several scripture that affirms he tortures with fire. But, your deceptive teachings say otherwise. This is a trick of the devil to get more people into hell fire.

Remember his dealings with the children of Israel.

They died in their thousands.

You are completely incurable. You just can reason straight anymore.

Russell is indeed an agent of darkness.

Because of him, so many are lured into hell.

And you one of his captive.

MaxInDHouse:


The wages of sin is DEATH {Romans 6:23} and death means non-existence no feeling! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

Ken4Christ:

And your blindness remains.

Ken4Christ:


You don't know God. If you know him, you will fear him and believe the scripture. You are so full of unbelief because you have been brainwashed to think that God does not punish anyone or can not use fire to torment anyone. But the scripture teaches otherwise.

Ken, you made a FALSE claim.
Did you read our quote of 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 & Romans 6:23 on this thread?

Did Jesus Christ doctrine teach that fire is torturing inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah at this time?

Oga, you are doing yourself.

Ken4Christ:



The writer of Hebrews says;

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

In another place, it is written;

Hebrews 10:31. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

You quote scriptures you don't understand it's meaning and you are too pompous to learn,study and get understanding

Ken4Christ:


A little disobedience could attracts God's judgment.

Remember what happened to the first man, Adam.

Ken4Christ:


What about the first world that was destroyed with flood? Only one family of eight people survived.

Ken4Christ:


What about the fire he rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah?

Was the fire he rained on Sodom and Gomorrah literal or not? If it was literal, who says he can't use literal fire to punish people?

Just show me one scripture that says God can't use or don't use fire to torment.

Ken4Christ:


Rather, there are several scripture that affirms he tortures with fire. But, your deceptive teachings say otherwise. This is a trick of the devil to get more people into hell fire.

Remember his dealings with the children of Israel.

They died in their thousands.


You are completely incurable. You just can reason straight anymore.

Russell is indeed an agent of darkness.

Because of him, so many are lured into hell.

And you one of his captive.

Janosky:


Ken, you made a FALSE claim.
Did you read our quote of 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 & Romans 6:23 on this thread?

Did Jesus Christ doctrine teach that fire is torturing inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah at this time?

Oga, you are doing yourself.

You quote scriptures you don't understand it's meaning and you are too pompous to learn,study and get understanding


Genesis 3:19, Pastor what happened to the first man Adam?
Is God torturing him now?


Is God torturing them today , according to your hellfire claim?

At this very hour,is fire from heaven torturing those Evildoers of Sodom Gomorrah?

Pastor FAILED to listen to Jesus Christ,@ Luke 17:26-30..


[b] Pastor's desperate attempt to ROPE his perpetual torture claim with destruction/death of Evildoers,
this is Pastor's GIBBERISH

Perpetual torture pastor's doctrine is NOT in anyway similar to Jesus doctrine of Luke 17:26-30,destruction of Evildoers.


Point of Emphasis, according to scriptures.
Let me quote pastor':Remember his dealings with the children of Israel.

They died in their thousands.

Pastor,is the Israelites still perpetually & forever torture in their thousands at this hour?

Pastor said:
You are completely incurable. You just can reason straight anymore.
Luke 17:26-30, the same statement Jesus Christ would say to the pastor Ken

MaxInDHouse:


Sodom and Gomorrah has been destroyed for more than 4,000 years now but when the name of those cities are mentioned everyone remembers how God rained fire from heaven to consume the cities as if the rain of fire is still falling. That's what torment forever and ever symbolises!

Ken4Christ:


What about instances he said, fire, furnace or fire and Everlasting fire?