Kobojunkie: The prince of Persia mentioned in the book of Daniel was the actual prince of the land of Persia, the Son of Cyrus the Great, who succeeded his father, only to die, i think about a year later.
In the bible it was written that the prince of Persia held down the angel with the answers to Daniels prayers.
Which bible?
10 Then a hand touched me. When that happened, I got on my hands and knees. I was so afraid that I was shaking. 11The man in the vision said to me, “Daniel, God loves you very much. Think very carefully about the words I will speak to you. Stand up; I have been sent to you.” And when he said this, I stood up. I was still shaking because I was afraid. 12Then the man in the vision started talking again. He said, “Daniel, do not be afraid. From the very first day you decided to get wisdom and to be humble in front of God, he has been listening to your prayers. I came to you because you have been praying. 13But the prince of Persia has been fighting against me for 21 days. Then Michael, one of the most important princes, came to help me because I was stuck there with the king of Persia. 14 Now I have come to you, Daniel, to explain to you what will happen to your people in the future. The vision is about a time in the future.” - Daniel 10 vs 10 - 14
Kobojunkie: The prince of Persia mentioned in the book of Daniel was the actual prince of the land of Persia, the Son of Cyrus the Great, who succeeded his father, only to die, i think about a year later.
How can a mere mortal withstand an angel, much more an archangel? That prince spoken of there, wasn't human.
Tboy222: No way but some demons are actually taller.
A video I posted where a middle aged man somewhere in the U.S died. He saw himself carried by a 13 foot heavily muscular and gigantic demon. While alive he was very belligerent fellow and feaed no one no matter how tall or physically built you are.
On seeing this grotesque creature, he was paralyzed with fear. "I am 6.2 feet tall and could pick up a fight with anyone, but when I saw this thing there was no fight in it, I mean I was absolutely nothing. You could stack two of me on this and I wouldn't even reach it. "
He described the demon running at an incredible speed, then he looked up and saw a bright star, at first he thought he saw wrong. Then he looked again and saw the star had moved.
Then at an incredible speed, a brilliant, transculent beam of light overshadowed the place, and he saw a large hand reach out to him. Instinctively he grabbed the hand. And standing before him was the most beautiful creature he had ever seen.
Standing at 9 foot tall, this being had the most beautiful bluest eyes he had ever seen. "It was like his eyes were painted with the most natural and yet unnatural bluest set of colors I can't even begin to describe." He narrated.
"He was muscular ,not overtly muscular like the demon, he was just perfectly built. You knew this was a warrior and he came to fight. Now this is where it gets weird, when you look at his face, you can't actually tell whether you are looking at a man or a woman ,its hard to describe ,he looked androgynous, his face was a perfect blend of the most beautiful woman and also the most handsome man I had ever seen. His physique was manly built, but his face was hard to describe. He was just too beautiful, I was transfixed ." He narrated .
He hit the demon with such powerful and brutal force,that it folded in half sending him flying in a C shape into the pitch black darkness. Then he looked at me with a look of pure love and sadness at the same time. Then he said hello my name is Michael, I was completely blown away. I have seen Michael and I can bodly say he is not Jesus, yeah you heard me right. Michael and Jesus are two different beings cos Jesus is the son of God."
"And then He called me by a very long name, and as soon as I heard it, I felt I was home, it was like I had borne that name for eternity, and as soon as he stopped, he took it out of me.
It was like he elevated me to his own language, like he was messing with my mind for lack of a better word. He was speaking a beautiful and heavenly language, but I was hearing it in my own broken English. His voice was like waterfalls , sort of a rushing water being able to speak.
"Then he told me he has been sent to offer me a second chance, looking back I saw the demon running towards us at an incredible speed with intense furiousness and hatred, in my mind I was like whateva you got to say please just get me outta here. He looked at me and gave me the most beautiful smile I probably will never see on this earth, and pointed towards my side. The moment I looked at that direction. I found myself back in my body struggling to breath. It took me about 20 mins to get my breathing back to normal.'
nnamdiosu: How can a mere mortal withstand an angel, much more an archangel? That prince spoken of there, wasn't human.
Withstand what angel?
10 Then a hand touched me. When that happened, I got on my hands and knees. I was so afraid that I was shaking. 11The man in the vision said to me, “Daniel, God loves you very much. Think very carefully about the words I will speak to you. Stand up; I have been sent to you.” And when he said this, I stood up. I was still shaking because I was afraid. 12Then the man in the vision started talking again. He said, “Daniel, do not be afraid. From the very first day you decided to get wisdom and to be humble in front of God, he has been listening to your prayers. I came to you because you have been praying. 13But the prince of Persia has been fighting against me for 21 days. Then Michael, one of the most important princes, came to help me because I was stuck there with the king of Persia. 14 Now I have come to you, Daniel, to explain to you what will happen to your people in the future. The vision is about a time in the future.” - Daniel 10 vs 10 - 14
Where in the context of the above do you keep inserting this angel you assume abeg?
Kobojunkie: Mysticwarrior, if you are afraid to read the books, watch the series Supernatural to learn pretty much 75% of all that is Angelology & Demonology.
Obviously, Micheal was referring to a powerful Spirit as the prince of Persia!
The scripture below show the different classes of spirits we as Christians wrestle with Eph 6:12: "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Have you been previledged to cast out a demon before? If Yes, you will understand that demons are vastly inferior to Angels!
True. I have red abt this Book "Omo oba Jesu". Demons are under the control or supervision of Fallen angels. Fallen angels do send them.
Steep: Nephilim are not a product of fallen Angel and human.
Gen 6:4: "The Nephilim were in the land in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man, and they bore [children] to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown."
Who were the sons of God here?
It will be good if you can explain what Jude meant here
Jud 1:6: "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness to the judgment of the great day."
Gen 6:4: "The Nephilim were in the land in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man, and they bore [children] to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown."
Who were the sons of God here?
It will be good if you can explain what Jude meant here
Jud 1:6: "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness to the judgment of the great day."
The nephilims were in the land and afterwards not that the Nephillims were bore by the sons of God. If the Sons of God were fallen angels ( demons) they could have possessed the bodies of human male to marry the women the children bore would still be human.
Or it is possible that the Sons of God are not angels.
There are evidence that seems to suggest that the sons of God in Genesis 6 are not angels but men.
Tboy222: No way but some demons are actually taller.
A video I posted where a middle aged man somewhere in the U.S died. He saw himself carried by a 13 foot heavily muscular and gigantic demon. While alive he was very belligerent fellow and feaed no one no matter how tall or physically built you are.
On seeing this grotesque creature, he was paralyzed with fear. "I am 6.2 feet tall and could pick up a fight with anyone, but when I saw this thing there was no fight in it, I mean I was absolutely nothing. You could stack two of me on this and I wouldn't even reach it. "
He described the demon running at an incredible speed, then he looked up and saw a bright star, at first he thought he saw wrong. Then he looked again and saw the star had moved.
Then at an incredible speed, a brilliant, transculent beam of light overshadowed the place, and he saw a large hand reach out to him. Instinctively he grabbed the hand. And standing before him was the most beautiful creature he had ever seen.
Standing at 9 foot tall, this being had the most beautiful bluest eyes he had ever seen. "It was like his eyes were painted with the most natural and yet unnatural bluest set of colors I can't even begin to describe." He narrated.
"He was muscular ,not overtly muscular like the demon, he was just perfectly built. You knew this was a warrior and he came to fight. Now this is where it gets weird, when you look at his face, you can't actually tell whether you are looking at a man or a woman ,its hard to describe ,he looked androgynous, his face was a perfect blend of the most beautiful woman and also the most handsome man I had ever seen. His physique was manly built, but his face was hard to describe. He was just too beautiful, I was transfixed ." He narrated .
He hit the demon with such powerful and brutal force,that it folded in half sending him flying in a C shape into the pitch black darkness. Then he looked at me with a look of pure love and sadness at the same time. Then he said hello my name is Michael, I was completely blown away. I have seen Michael and I can bodly say he is not Jesus, yeah you heard me right. Michael and Jesus are two different beings cos Jesus is the son of God."
"And then He called me by a very long name, and as soon as I heard it, I felt I was home, it was like I had borne that name for eternity, and as soon as he stopped, he took it out of me.
It was like he elevated me to his own language, like he was messing with my mind for lack of a better word. He was speaking a beautiful and heavenly language, but I was hearing it in my own broken English. His voice was like waterfalls , sort of a rushing water being able to speak.
"Then he told me he has been sent to offer me a second chance, looking back I saw the demon running towards us at an incredible speed with intense furiousness and hatred, in my mind I was like whateva you got to say please just get me outta here. He looked at me and gave me the most beautiful smile I probably will never see on this earth, and pointed towards my side. The moment I looked at that direction. I found myself back in my body struggling to breath. It took me about 20 mins to get my breathing back to normal.'
The nephilims were in the land and afterwards not that the Nephillims were bore by the sons of God. If the Sons of God were fallen angels ( demons) they could have possessed the bodies of human male to marry the women the children bore would still be human.
Or it is possible that the Sons of God are not angels.
There are evidence that seems to suggest that the sons of God in Genesis 6 are not angels but men.
How did the Nephillims evolve a GIANT DNA since they were NOT normal humans? Moreover, demons seldom possess a person, they infect. You see, your understanding of demonisation is not deep.
Gen 6:2: "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." The sons of God aka fallen angels took wives for themselves amongst the daughters of men!
The consequence of this was what led to the birthing of Nephillims (Giants)
Gen 6:4: "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."
You will note that the language was not "the sons of men" going into "the daughters of men"! It was the sons of God going into the daughters of men"! Your argument fall flat here.
Why would these supernatural beings need muscles? LMFAO!
Oh you really think is a joke, you think a God who created women to be beautiful and sexually and physically attractive to the male Folk, a God who created sex so blissful and mind numbing .now try to imagine the beauty and the horrors of what lies herafter.
There is a book by Jim Woodford, Heaven an unexpected journey. There are numerous book by many authors relating their experiences in Heaven.
In fact there is an afterlife conference 2022 coming up shortly, hosted by Randy Kay. I will create a thread on it shortly. Where hundreds who at one point where declared clinically dead had testimonies to share.
Oh you really think is a joke, you think a God who created women to be beautiful and sexually and physically attractive to the male Folk, a God who created sex so blissful and mind numbing .now try to imagine the beauty and the horrors of what lies herafter.
There is a book by Jim Woodford, Heaven an unexpected journey. There are numerous book by many authors relating their experiences in Heaven.
In fact there is an afterlife conference 2022 coming up shortly, hosted by Randy Kay. I will create a thread on it shortly. Where hundreds who at one point where declared clinically dead had testimonies to share.
I just did, angels are spiritual beings, diffrent heights and builds, God is a God who loves diversity all brought together and unified in love and holiness, you heard John seeing a mighty Angel with one leg on the sea and the other on the land.
He also saw a strong and mighty Angel binding the dragon and casting him into a bottomless pit. That alone my brother is enough information coupled with the testimonies out there.
I just did, angels are spiritual beings, diffrent heights and builds, God is a God who loves diversity all brought together and unified in love and holiness, you heard John seeing a mighty Angel with one leg on the sea and the other on the land.
He also saw a strong and mighty Angel binding the dragon and casting him into a bottomless pit. That alone my brother is enough information coupled with the testimonies out there.
The question again: Why would these supernatural beings need muscles?
Try to answer the question. if you don't understand it I can explain it to you.
The question again: Why would these supernatural beings need muscles?
Try to answer the question. if you don't understand it I can explain it to you.
It is like asking why angels need wings, it is like asking why God has to sit on a throne since he never gets tired. It is like asking me why Heaven has to have a gate since there is no evil there.
It is like asking me why God had to allow a war in heaven before casting Satan and the fallen angels out. It is like asking me why God had to allow Lucifer tempt a third of the angels while sitting on his throne and watching the whole scenario.
It is like asking me why God allowed the serpent tempt Adam and Eve and make them fall.
My brother to be honest I have no answer to your question. Only he The wise and true God has all the answers.
It is like asking why angels need wings, it is like asking why God has to sit on a throne since he never gets tired. It is like asking me why Heaven has to have a gate since there is no evil there.
It is like asking me why God had to allow a war in heaven before casting Satan and the fallen angels out. It is like asking me why God had to allow Lucifer tempt a third of the angels while sitting on his throne and watching the whole scenario.
It is like asking me why God allowed the serpent tempt Adam and Eve and make them fall.
My brother to be honest I have no answer to your question. Only he The wise and true God has all the answers.
Good, you don't know. No need to beat about the bush.
