You Are Not Call To Join ChurCHes BUT tO Join JESUS.... Salvation is NOT in a Church BUT in Jesus Christ
what do I mean, you see a lot of church goer who still fight,keep malice, smoke, and drink alcohol, who fornicate and are adulterous and quarrelsome why so? It is because they only Join thE Church But have not Known Jesus Personally....

Bitter but true. Church should be the gathering of saints and a house of prayer but now its a den of robbers.

Lighthouse50:
Bitter but true. Church should be the gathering of saints and a house of prayer but now its a den of robbers.

So true ... Many have turned the church to an avenue to sourcing for daily bread .. many pastors are not after the growth of the kingdom of God but established churches for there own personal gain.....

Many Pastors have intensified their Church publicity not for the primary great commission but for the increment of their purse... God help us

But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
Matthew 6:33
The Bible says we should seek the kingdom first and his righteousness, truly this can be experienced through a church whose primary objectives is The Kingdom and Righteousness of God but reverse is the case many churches....

And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near! Hebrews 10:24-25

Anyone praying or having any act of worship in isolation (private) can only gain personal things {Matthew 6:6} but when it comes to salvation through Christ we mustn't be isolated! Matthew 18:20

Satan knew this that's why he began the spiritual war against the church immediately after Jesus' ascension {1John 2:18} Jesus foresaw this {Matthew 13:25} but today Jesus has called out his own true disciples from the world empire of false religions {Revelations 18:4} today God's angels are gathering sects in false religions for destruction {Matthew 13:30} but His own worshipers He has given another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

MaxInDHouse:
And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near! Hebrews 10:24-25

Anyone praying or having any act of worship in isolation (private) can only gain personal things {Matthew 6:6} but when it comes to salvation through Christ we mustn't be isolated! Matthew 18:20

Satan knew this that's why he began the spiritual war against the church immediately after Jesus' ascension {1John 2:18} Jesus foresaw this {Matthew 13:25} but today Jesus has called out his own true disciples from the world empire of false religions {Revelations 18:4} today God's angels are gathering sects in false religions for destruction {Matthew 13:30} but His own worshipers He has given another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

So true sir.... The majority of the Churches we have around now sir,are they after the well being of her members or the fame of the church

hort07:

So true sir.... The majority of the Churches we have around now sir,are they after the well being of her members or the fame of the church

Satan is only promoting many sects today like different lanes on the road to destruction! Matthew 7:13-14
After Jesus has called out his own people the rest are doomed. Revelations 18:4

I will tell you how to identify the FRUIT we need to know so as to recognize Jesus' group if you're interested! Matthew 7:16-18

I would love to advocate that the church do more on the salvation of soul for Christ....
Luke 14:23: Then the master told his servant, ‘Go out to the roads and country lanes and make them come in, so that my house will be full......
Bring them to the church and let them experience God and Accept Jesus, that the house which He (Jesus) has prepared might be occupy by the saved...

MaxInDHouse:


Satan is only promoting many sects today like different lanes on the road to destruction! Matthew 7:13-14
After Jesus has called out his own people the rest are doomed. Revelations 18:4

I will tell you how to identify the FRUIT we need to know so as to recognize Jesus' group if you're interested! Matthew 7:16-18

Interested sir.... I am open to learning

hort07:
I would love to advocate that the church do more on the salvation of soul for Christ....
Luke 14:23: Then the master told his servant, ‘Go out to the roads and country lanes and make them come in, so that my house will be full......
Bring them to the church and let them experience God and Accept Jesus, that the house which He (Jesus) has prepared might be occupy by the saved...

What is "church"? What does church mean?

MaxInDHouse:
And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near! Hebrews 10:24-25

Anyone praying or having any act of worship in isolation (private) can only gain personal things {Matthew 6:6} but when it comes to salvation through Christ we mustn't be isolated! Matthew 18:20

Satan knew this that's why he began the spiritual war against the church immediately after Jesus' ascension {1John 2:18} Jesus foresaw this {Matthew 13:25} but today Jesus has called out his own true disciples from the world empire of false religions {Revelations 18:4} today God's angels are gathering sects in false religions for destruction {Matthew 13:30} but His own worshipers He has given another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

Define church?

elated177:


What is "church"? What does church mean?

You can teach us sir, very interested in learning

hort07:


You can teach us sir, very interested in learning

You should do the teaching. We are very interested in learning as well.

elated177:


You should do the teaching. We are very interested in learning as well.

From Gotquestions.com
Many people today understand the church as a building. This is not a biblical understanding of the church. The word “church” is a translation of the Greek word ekklesia, which is defined as “an assembly” or “called-out ones.” The root meaning of church is not that of a building, but of people. It is ironic that when you ask people what church they attend, they usually identify a building. Romans 16:5 says, “Greet the church that is in their house.” Paul refers to the church in their house—not a church building, but a body of believers.

The church is the body of Christ, of which He is the head. Ephesians 1:22–23 says, “And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” The body of Christ is made up of all believers in Jesus Christ from the day of Pentecost (Acts 2) until Christ’s return. Biblically, we may regard the church in two ways, as the universal church or as the local church.

The universal church consists of everyone, everywhere, who has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. “For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink” (1 Corinthians 12:13). This verse says that anyone who believes is part of the body of Christ and has received the Spirit of Christ as evidence. All those who have received salvation through faith in Jesus Christ comprise the universal church.

hort07:

Interested sir.... I am open to learning

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we don't engage group arguments so i will allow whoever wants to teach do so perhaps you can find something tangible in their comments.
So don't worry my friend let me allow them for now, i will teach you later when they're done!

hort07:
The universal church consists of everyone, everywhere, who has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. “For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink” (1 Corinthians 12:13). This verse says that anyone who believes is part of the body of Christ and has received the Spirit of Christ as evidence. All those who have received salvation through faith in Jesus Christ comprise the universal church.

The local church is described in Galatians 1:1–2: “Paul, an apostle . . . and all the brothers with me, to the churches in Galatia.” Here we see that in the province of Galatia there were many churches—they had a localized ministry and were scattered throughout the province. They were local churches. A Baptist church, a Lutheran church, an E-Free church, etc., is not the church, as in the universal church; rather, it is a local church, a local body of believers. The universal church is comprised of everyone who belongs to Christ. Members of the universal church should seek fellowship and edification in a local church.

elated177:

Define church?

I'm not here for you so if you have anything tangible to contribute please go ahead you and i aren't on the same page!

MaxInDHouse:

I'm not here for you so if you have anything tangible to contribute please go ahead you and i aren't on the same page!

Lol. You dey fear? Lol....

elated177:

Lol. You dey fear? Lol....

I'm here for the OP so go ahead and teach if you have the knowledge!

hort07:


The local church is described in Galatians 1:1–2: “Paul, an apostle . . . and all the brothers with me, to the churches in Galatia.” Here we see that in the province of Galatia there were many churches—they had a localized ministry and were scattered throughout the province. They were local churches. A Baptist church, a Lutheran church, an E-Free church, etc., is not the church, as in the universal church; rather, it is a local church, a local body of believers. The universal church is comprised of everyone who belongs to Christ. Members of the universal church should seek fellowship and edification in a local church.

In summary, the church is not a building or a denomination. According to the Bible, the church is the body of Christ—all those who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation (John 3:16; 1 Corinthians 12:13). Local churches are gatherings of people who claim the name of Christ. Members of a local church may or may not be members of the universal church, depending on the genuineness of their faith. The local church is where believers can fully apply the “body” principles of 1 Corinthians chapter 12—encouraging, teaching, and building one another up in the knowledge and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.

MaxInDHouse:


I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we don't engage group arguments so i will allow whoever wants to teach do so perhaps you can find something tangible in their comments.
So don't worry my friend let me allow them for now, i will teach you later when they're done!

Okay sir, I understand sir....

MaxInDHouse:


I'm here for the OP so go ahead and teach if you have the knowledge!

I never said that you were here for me, did I, maxindhouse?

hort07:

Okay sir, I understand sir....

Good morning my friend, the coast is clear now you can ask any question that comes to your mind regarding true Christianity and how Jesus' modern day disciples are worshiping the true God in spirit and truth!