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Are Hurricanes Signs Of End Times? by LoveKing(m): 8:00am On Aug 26, 2011
is this hurricane the coming judgement of God or just a natural phenomenon with no spiritual undertone?
Re: Are Hurricanes Signs Of End Times? by HISchild: 11:27pm On Aug 26, 2011
This hurricane, in addition to many other recent "natural disasters" (earthquakes, tsunamis, etc) are signs of the Lord JESUS CHRIST's return,  it is imminent. 

"And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;" - Luke 21:25

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;" Titus 2:11-14

"But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer." - 1 Peter 4:7
Re: Are Hurricanes Signs Of End Times? by tpia5: 11:42pm On Aug 26, 2011
hurricanes usually bring bad tidings.
Re: Are Hurricanes Signs Of End Times? by Jenwitemi(m): 7:46am On Aug 27, 2011
No no no! Only cold winters and hot summers are signs of end times.
LoveKing:

is this hurricane the coming judgement of God or just a natural phenomenon with no spiritual undertone?
Re: Are Hurricanes Signs Of End Times? by thehomer: 11:57am On Aug 27, 2011
HISchild:

This hurricane, in addition to many other recent "natural disasters" (earthquakes, tsunamis, etc) are signs of the Lord JESUS CHRIST's return,  it is imminent. 

"And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;" - Luke 21:25

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;" Titus 2:11-14

"But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer." - 1 Peter 4:7


Of course they are signs of his return. Lets just ignore the fact that since man has been able to keep records, there have been hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcano eruptions and what not. Just keep telling yourself that it is Jesus that is pushing these things. Makes you wonder what sort of entity he is that happily causes misery and destruction because he is on his way.
Just as Oscar Wilde said, some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. If Jesus' imminent arrival means misery, please let him just stay away.
Re: Are Hurricanes Signs Of End Times? by LoveKing(m): 12:11am On Aug 28, 2011
@HISChild

take a look at the miami 1926 hurricane which is regarded as the most devastating storm in history. Well this hurricane irene is expected to be in the same category 4. but what i'm saying is back in 1926 werent christians expecting Jesus then? even after the great hurricane people still came back and build their cities, we have been expecting Jesus volcanos after hurricanes afer typhons and Man keep on building, so how can you justify that these natural disasters are signs of Jesus coming?
Re: Are Hurricanes Signs Of End Times? by joyuchesun: 4:09am On Aug 28, 2011
[b]There are a few posters on this website who speak consistently about the coming of Jesus and the end of the world. As Africans, we cannot live our lives based on this, and must challenge those who come to cause confusion and try to keep us down with primitive views and thoughts. Look at the terrible state of Africa. As long as people live in anticipation of the end of the world or Jesus coming to take them to heaven, they will not try as hard to improve conditions here on earth, where for as long as we know until shown otherwise, we will live until we die.

People have expected the end of the world for centuries and it has never come. The "signs" that have been given as reasons why the end is coming can be attributed to any time in history. That is why it works so well to scare people, it can be easily generalized, the writers knew what they were doing. There have always been diseases and wars and man being unkind to his fellow man. At other times in history it was even worse than it is now. Think of the plagues, etc. I am sure those people thought they were living in the end times and Jesus was coming, he never did. This would lead one to conclude that the end is not coming, at least not in the way that is believed. This is a primitive and outdated way of being and thinking.

This year there was a big deal made by some regarding May 21, 2011. There was one person who posted on this site, I think the screen name was Hisservant or Thyservant who posted non-stop about May 21 and never showed up here again after nothing happened. It was clear that this person was crazy, but as a result of posts like that, many made terrible decisions in anticipation of the world ending on this date. It did not end but as a result lives were destroyed.

I ask that people start to think for themselves and not out of fear. If we all work together, we can make positive changes in the world that we are here to live in and it will become less of a scary place. We can make it better for our children and their children. However, if we keep waiting for Jesus to come and not using the talents and gifts we have been given, things will continue to fall apart. Beware of those who are so adamant about the end coming. The end may be coming for those people through poor choices, and they may desperately want it in order to escape their miserable existence, but please the date of the end is not something that anyone can know. it will come when it comes. Until then, let us be productive human beings and help to make positive change in Africa and in the world. We are a powerful people and it is time for us to demonstrate this. Challenge those who come on this website to post garbage about judgment day and the end of the world. They have their own agenda to keep us in fear. Misery loves company!

For those who would like scriptural proof that there is no literal return of Jesus, it is below:


Why Jesus Isn't Coming Again

The Bible tells us that Jesus Christ spoke to His disciples 2000 years ago, telling them that he would return, that he was "coming again". His promise remains one of the most central themes in the myriad of Christian belief systems. Except for a very small minority, Christians still believe he is coming again, the Parousia, the rapture. Is His promise still valid? Has He yet to return? Or did He make the promise only to break it in the lifetime of those to whom He spoke?

The Promise

The following is taken from the Bible. All verses are from the King James version unless otherwise noted. The Bible references are hyperlinks and will take the reader to the New International Version quotation if so desired.

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Fatherwith his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death*, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Matthew 16: 27-28


The language is clear. Jesus told his disciples that some of them would not taste of death - would not die - before he returned, until he came into his kingdom.

If you've been mistakenly taught that the verses above refer to Christ's Transfiguration, read Revelation 20:12 which coincides with Matthew 16:27 in describing a Judgment Day scenario:

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened:and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 20:12


Christ was, again, clearly referring to his second coming before that present generation passed.

Again, Jesus tells his disciples:

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass*, till all these things be fulfilled.
Matthew 24:30-34


Again, Christ describes certain events and warns those who are listening to him that "This generation shall not pass*, till all these things be fulfilled". He is speaking about their present generation.

Although the above scriptures clearly convey that Christ was talking about his present generation, there are many other references in the New Testament indicating that the writers of the Gospels and Epistles as well as the followers of Christ firmly believed that Jesus was speaking of their present generation and not some future time hundreds or thousands of years down the road.

Jesus spoke to his followers again about his coming according to the book of Matthew:

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
Matthew 10:22-23


The cities of Israel were not so numerous that it would have taken a fleeing man 2000 years to go over or through them. No man could live that long. Christ said before a fleeing man could go through all the cities, he would come. Again, Christ was speaking of his return in that generation. He left no doubt as to his meaning in this passage.

What I mean, brothers, is that the time is short*. From now on those who have wives should live as if they had none; those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep; those who use the things of the world, as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away.
(1 Corinthians 7:29-31 - NIV)


Paul tells the Corinthians that time is short and that the world in its present form is passing away. His words have a strong sense of urgency, rather than being a mere suggestion. Paul believes the world is presently passing away. He is not speaking of some event which could take place 2000 years in the future.

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep*, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality
1 Corinthians 15:50-53


In this passage, Paul tells the Corinthians We shall not all sleep. Again, Paul is convinced and is convincing the Corinthians that the second coming of Christ is imminent in that generation and not all who hear his words will "sleep" or die prior to Christ's coming.

We Which Are Alive And Shall Remain

In the following portion of the letter which Paul writes to the Thessalonians he discusses those who remain alive in the present tense.

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain* unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain* shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-18


More Scripture Indicating Immediate Urgency

The New Testament is abundantly filled with references to the immediacy of Christ's return.

But the end of all things is at hand:* be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
1 Peter 4:7



God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days* spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things,
Hebrews 1:1-2


In 1 John, the false prophets foretold by Jesus who existed in that time period to give notice of the end times are discussed.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God,
1 John 4:1-3


*(italics mine)

According to the Bible, Jesus Christ said he would return in the generation in which he lived. He said the sign of the Son of Man would appear in heaven. He said all the tribes of Israel would mourn. He said the tribes would see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. He said he would send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet. The angels were to gather the "elect" from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. All of these things were to have happened in his generation. They didn't happen.

Jesus did not return as he said he would. He did not return as his disciples believed and preached that he would. Jesus didn't come in the disciples generation. He didn't come in any generation. The disciples all died. Jesus' promise was broken. The disciples believed and lived a false hope.

Jesus didn't come then and he isn't coming in the future. Those who cling to the broken promise and false hope of his return will be just as disappointed as the disciples who died looking in vain for the second coming of their Christ.

He isn't coming again.

Taken from angelfire.com[/b]
Re: Are Hurricanes Signs Of End Times? by PA1982(f): 8:01am On Aug 28, 2011
While there are people like you writing and thinking, there is hope for us all.
Thanks for your post, joyuchesun!

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