Kobojunkie:
1. If you are trying to present a sentimental argument of sorts, then I am afraid you have veered straight into the path of silliness.

2. Even before we sit, we unconsciously eye the seat to be certain it is in good condition and able, to the best of our assessment, carry the weight we are about to put on it before sitting in it. Even before we eat, we unconsciously reach an understanding that it is safe to eat before we push it in mouth. If cooked by someone we consider high risk, we proceed with even more caution, with hope that we are wrong.

3. Suspicion, as I already explained isn't the only approach to tackling the fallibility is. I mentioned how in most every human relationship there is expressed need for such ideas as patience, tolerance, perseverance, even love that overlooks faults.

By the way, did you know that the reason why nature makes babies cute, innocent, and cuddly has to do with countering the fallibility issue in humans?

4. I am afraid these things only exist in your mind as you obviously need to ignore facts in enforce this l idea on any level.

You believe in patience, tolerance, love etc and you don't trust? Pls!

No worries, enjoy your evening, your mind is already made up.

coputa:
We are talking about flesh and blood here, the same person that showed you love and took bullets for your sake will tomorrow push you into the ocean , that's why,the day you stop trusting human, that's the day you start living right.

Interesting, when one lives on suspense in his/her interactions with people, that person will hardly find genuine friend's.

I find it hard to believe your submission. Yes humans are fallible but to live without trusting anyone means that said person is not a sincere person.

Yusufisraelj:


Interesting, when one lives on suspense in his/her interactions with people, that person will hardly find genuine friend's.

I find it hard to believe your submission. Yes humans are fallible but to live without trusting anyone means that said person is not a sincere person.

You are getting it wrong, yes,humans can fake loyalty and sincerity in order to get what they want from you,but it doesn't last, because of the flesh, someone you know today can change to something else tomorrow, you have to be weary of humans,i don't know how old you are, but as you grow older you will understand how humans changes like chameleon

Yusufisraelj:
1..You believe in patience, tolerance, love etc and you don't trust? Pls!

2. No worries, enjoy your evening, your mind is already made up.

1. I don't "believe" in patience, tolerance, love and all the rest as applied in humans relationships. They all all tools we use to help us better resolve issues that arise in relationships.

2. This isn't about my mind as this applies to All humans and relationships with humans.

coputa:
You are getting it wrong, yes,humans can fake loyalty and sincerity in order to get what they want from you,but it doesn't last, because of the flesh, someone you know today can change to something else tomorrow, you have to be weary of humans,i don't know how old you are, but as you grow older you will understand how humans changes like chameleon

I read you correctly, people can betray trust you put in them I understand that, but to live without trusting is what kobojunkie is stressing, I find that hard to accept.

My brother I know what betrayal looks like from money issues to relationship, but I'll never stop trusting bkos of some few fuvk ups.

Yusufisraelj:
1. I read you correctly, people can betray trust you put in them I understand that, but to live without trusting is what kobojunkie is stressing, I find that hard to accept.

2. My brother I know what betrayal looks like from money issues to relationship, but I'll never stop trusting bkos of some few fuvk ups.

1. You have it twisted, I am afraid. You are to blame for putting what you conclude to be your trust in another human being, to begin with. A human being is not trustworthy by his very nature and so it becomes your fault when you expect of another human what he is not naturally able to do.

By the way, the reason why there are agreements/contracts in relationships --- marriage, business, even partnerships of any kind -- is for this reason. These laws/rules/guides are there to provide protection/insurance in the case of defined betrayals.

2. You are free to live your life as you choose but the facts are the facts.

Yusufisraelj:


I read you correctly, people can betray trust you put in them I understand that, but to live without trusting is what kobojunkie is stressing, I find that hard to accept.

My brother I know what betrayal looks like from money issues to relationship, but I'll never stop trusting bkos of some few fuvk ups.

let's use the word "entrusting" here , because trusting a human means you have completely lower your guard,which is dangerous, because the human mind is subject to temptations and manipulations,but by entrusting something to someone , you can hold on to your plan B if it turn out sour, but trust doesn't go with plan B

harmargedon:
you can't trust everyone, but believe me when I tell you this, there are people whom you can trust with your life.

No. They don't exist. Only God.

Chee59:

No. They don't exist. Only God.

the question isn't if there are people whom you can trust, the real question is, can people trust you?

harmargedon:
the question isn't if there are people whom you can trust, the real question is, can people trust you?

The more important here is whether or not you think God a liar or not.

Kobojunkie:
The more important here is whether or not you think God a liar or not.

it depends on which God you're talking about, the Jewish god, Arab god or the true God?

harmargedon:
it depends on which God you're talking about, the Jewish god, Arab god or the true God?

The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the same God quoted in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 - 11, is He not? Is He a liar to you?

Kobojunkie:
The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the same God quoted in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 - 11, is He not? Is He a liar to you?

Jewish god.

harmargedon:
Jewish god.

No, God of Israel since Jews are only a subset of Israel.

Chee59:
In this my short life, I've realised that of all the creatures God made, it is only human beings who have the capacity to easily forget good done to them.
Even a tiger, a lion, is more likely to remember past goodness than a human being who is more than willing to destroy you even after every thing you've done for them.
At this point, I'd rather put my fingers into a lion's mouth than trust another human being ever again.
I'd rather use a door to repeatedly bash my fingers against the wall before I'll trust another human being again.
Fear human beings.

Na which guy don break ur heart again?

Humans are the both the best and worst of God's creation

Kobojunkie:
No, God of Israel since Jews are only a subset of Israel.

still the same. So you believe the god of Israel is the true God?

harmargedon:
still the same. So you believe the god of Israel is the true God?

Again, either it is the case that the God of Israel lied in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 - 11 meaning you do not accept His Word as truth or you lied. So which is it?

Truvelisback:
Na which guy don break ur heart again?

Your daddy

Chee59:
Your daddy

No be ole! But make i shall help u amend am.

Aren't you a human being?

Chee59:
The Bible uses two words to describe the human heart.
"deceitful" and "desperately wicked"
Not just wicked but desperately wicked.
You can't make this up.
Even the Bible realises that you're safer with a wild animal, despite their wild nature than with another human being because of the kind of heart they possess.