PoliteActivist:


That's the point. What we are experiencing may very well be the true nature of things. But we have no way of being sure. So we have to acknowledge that we are assuming that reality is as we perceive it

If we can assume reality is as we perceive it, why can’t we assume reality is in its very true nature?


Science didn’t just wake up and say that they don’t know dark matter true nature, they didn’t ASSUME!

PoliteActivist:


You are better than this na.
We have to first of all ASSUME that reality is as we perceive it. Once we are done with that,
CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE suggests a designer.

LoLz. Your juvenile attempt to poison the well didn't work so now you still want to introduce your god after you said there is no proof sufficient to make a decision either way. Sorry not sorry, I reject your designer based on your own premises.

Still waiting for where I told you there is no god. LMAO!

Maynman:


If we can assume reality is as we perceive it, why can’t we assume reality is in its very true nature.

Science didn’t just wake up and say that they don’t know dark matter true nature, they didn’t ASSUME!

Your first statement doesn't make any sense. Either way it is an ASSUMPTION. That's the point.

Science knows dark matter is there because they can perceive it. They just don't know it's true nature.
Same way, we can perceive reality but we have no way of knowing it's true nature

PoliteActivist:

What has Matrix to do with this? Matrix is a movie

Was it you is the question.

PoliteActivist:


Your first statement doesn't make any sense. Either way it is an ASSUMPTION. That's the point.

Science knows dark matter is there because they can perceive it. They just don't know it's true nature.
Same way, we can perceive reality but we have no way of knowing it's true nature

“So we have to acknowledge that we are ASSUMING that reality is as we perceive it“ but this make sense?

Perceive means to understand.
If scientist understand what dark matters mean with facts and evidence.

Can you also make me understand what reality is with facts and evidence so when we finally know its true nature we can compare and contrast?

LordReed:


LoLz. Your juvenile attempt to poison the well didn't work so now you still want to introduce your god after you said there is no proof sufficient to make a decision either way. Sorry not sorry, I reject your designer based on your own premises.

Still waiting for where I told you there is no god. LMAO!

After watching the world cup final I'll post it for you.
Meanwhile study the words CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence, as opposed to definitive proof!

LordReed:


Was it you is the question.

I only have one moniker. I don't have time for ten monikers like some of you

Maynman:


“So we have to acknowledge that we are ASSUMING that reality is as we perceive it“ but this make sense?

Perceive means to understand.
If scientist understand what dark matters mean with facts and evidence.

Can you also make me understand what reality is with facts and evidence so when we finally know its true nature we can compare and contrast?

Perceive means to understand??
Bros, with all due respect I'm done with you.
You shouldn't be in this type of discussion

PoliteActivist:


After watching the world cup final I'll post it for you.
Meanwhile study the words CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence, as opposed to definitive proof!

The world cup ended hours ago. LMAO.

I don't care for your circumstantial evidence, it means nothing since it can point to nothing of substance. You are free to conjecture all you want but know that that is all it is and it doesn't convince us.

PoliteActivist:


Perceive means to understand??
Bros, with all due respect I'm done with you.
You shouldn't be in this type of discussion

Lol.
So scientist don’t understand dark matter, they just “perceive” it? Bwahahahah
Why you so desperate to base your life on assumption and not understanding? Is it an attempt to bring your “designer” in?

The jargons you feed yourself has fell before your eyes.

LordReed:


The world cup ended hours ago. LMAO.

I don't care for your circumstantial evidence, it means nothing since it can point to nothing of substance. You are free to conjecture all you want but know that that is all it is and it doesn't convince us.

Now that he has pointed you to an admissible evidence which proves Truth, called "circumstantial evidence" you are running.

Workch:

This is how to make evidence, you don't just make claims and then boom, you expect us to believe it. It has to be tested. Testimonies are never evidence. It's more and more claims

Testimonies are what is called "Oral Evidence" subject to many tests before they can be taken as True and Proof of Truth!

LordReed:


The world cup ended hours ago. LMAO.

I don't care for your circumstantial evidence, it means nothing since it can point to nothing of substance. You are free to conjecture all you want but know that that is all it is and it doesn't convince us.

We've been commenting on WC

Now, see below

Circumstances evidence is something accidentally being there that satisfies a man's desires (woman), or you being attracted to older people as you get older, people that repulsed you when you were younger.
You really don't sense arrangee in all of this?

PoliteActivist:


Let me try to be patient.
The fact that we are perceiving reality is in itself reality.
There is no doubt that exists. Stop pretending you're am infant

I thought you said we cant ascertain if this reality exists?

jaephoenix:

I thought you said we cant ascertain if this reality exists?

The guy assumes and perceives reality when it favours him.

PoliteActivist:


We've been commenting on WC

Now, see below

Circumstances evidence is something accidentally being there that satisfies a man's desires (woman), or you being attracted to older people as you get older, people that repulsed you when you were younger.
You really don't sense arrangee in all of this?

LMFAO! Did you look at the name on the screenshots you posted? Does LordReed and hopefulLandlord look like the same to you?

None of the scenarios you posit make any sense to me. I have a wife, I didn't just wake up one day and find her in my bed, there was a deliberate effort to get her there. And no I am not attracted to older people because I'm growing older. If that is what is happening to you no need to generalise it.

Now I strongly suspect you are the Matrix fellow, this is exactly how he used to behave. Using wonky things as examples and attempting all manner of obfuscation.

PoliteActivist:


We've been commenting on WC

Now, see below

Circumstances evidence is something accidentally being there that satisfies a man's desires (woman), or you being attracted to older people as you get older, people that repulsed you when you were younger.
You really don't sense arrangee in all of this?

Guy you are FreeIgboho. Don't be lying.

Workch:
this is strawman.
The issue here is not to prove reality, the issue here to to prove the potency of miracle using controlled method just the same way you can prove that levofloxacin can cure typhoid fever.

Whether or not reality can be proven, it wont affect the result

Why call it "miracle" if you can put it under experiment?

By its very nature, miracle means something you can't logically explain. How do you prove that which can't be logically explained.

I'm not sure religious people are still going about seeking to give evidence to atheists and agnostic.

Spiritual journey is longer and far more adventurous than that. If you're in it, you're in it. If you're not in it, keep exploring agnosticism.

Perhaps those new to their spiritual walks can try convincing you but a lot of spiritual folks simply don't care anymore. They can "pray" for you in their corners though.

LordReed:


LMFAO! Did you look at the name on the screenshots you posted? Does LordReed and hopefulLandlord look like the same to you?

None of the scenarios you posit make any sense to me. I have a wife, I didn't just wake up one day and find her in my bed, there was a deliberate effort to get her there. And no I am not attracted to older people because I'm growing older. If that is what is happening to you no need to generalise it.

Now I strongly suspect you are the Matrix fellow, this is exactly how he used to behave. Using wonky things as examples and attempting all manner of obfuscation.

What's with you and all this Matrix stuff??!!
Just because you are are same guy as in my screenshot! Either you are same guy or you are twins!
I didn't even look at the moniker.

You don't find it suspicious that you need a woman and women just magucally exist that exactly satisfy that need??!!
You are being economical with the truth about being attracted to 50 year-olds when you were 15. As you get older something adjusts your eyes and taste and you find them sexy and attractive!

PoliteActivist:


What's with you and all this Matrix stuff??!!
Just because you are are same guy as in my screenshot! Either you are same guy or you are twins!
I didn't even look at the moniker.

You don't find it suspicious that you need a woman and a women maguvmcally exist.
You are being economical with the truth about being attracted to 50 year-olds when you were 15. As you get older something adjusts your eyes and taste and you find them s3xu and attractive!

FreeIgboho I thought you would have changed tactics by now, your nonsense doesn't work you hear. LMFAO!

LordReed:


FreeIgboho I thought you would have changed tactics by now, your nonsense doesn't work you hear. LMFAO!

LMFAO! indeed!
Failed Detective!!!
Please don’t bring me into nonsense

FreeIgboho:


LMFAO! indeed!
Failed Detective!!!
Please don’t bring me into nonsense

LoLz! No dey whine me jor. Bwahahahahaha!

LordReed:


LoLz! No dey whine me jor. Bwahahahahaha!

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FreeIgboho:



Have you totally lost your mind? Told you to leave me out of the nonsense!
Politeactivist

Keep playing the fool. LMFAO!

FreeIgboho:



Have you totally lost your mind? Told you to leave me out of the nonsense!
Politeactivist

I want to give you a MILLION LIKES!!!!!!
My man now has egg all over his face!
It is embarrassing watching an older guy make a fool of himself!!!
And I had some respect for the guy

PoliteActivist:


I want to give you a MILLION LIKES!!!!!!
My man now has egg all over his face!
It is embarrassing watching an older guy make a fool of himself!!!
And I had some respect for the guy

Maybe atheism has cost him a bit of his mind

FreeIgboho:


Maybe atheism has cost him a bit of his mind

I'm just so happy you're still around or he'll have confused some people!
Really embarrassing!

PoliteActivist:


I want to give you a MILLION LIKES!!!!!!
My man now has egg all over his face!
It is embarrassing watching an older guy make a fool of himself!!!
And I had some respect for the guy

FreeIgboho:


Maybe atheism has cost him a bit of his mind

PoliteActivist:


I'm just so happy you're still around or he'll have confused some people!
Really embarrassing!

Keep having a conversation with yourself, it's quite entertaining. LMFAO!

LordReed:


Keep having a conversation with yourself, it's quite entertaining. LMFAO!

My friend can you get of my mentions??!

FreeIgboho:


My friend can you get of my mention?! I’m sure we are not even in the same country! Not everybody has 40 monikers like you. Quietly collect your L and go home. You are too old for this!
My last reply to you

Keep deceiving yourself. LoLz.

LordReed:


Keep having a conversation with yourself, it's quite entertaining. LMFAO!

Quite embarrassing, watching an intelligent guy make a fool of himself!
Perfectly illustrates my thesis - things are not always what they seem. I may not even be in the same continent with the guy!
Well, YOU'VE LEARNT YOUR LESSON. Next time you'll be more circumspect!
Bye bye!

PoliteActivist:


Quite embarrassing, watching an intelligent guy make a fool of himself!
Perfectly illustrates my thesis - things are not always what they seem. I may not even be in the same continent with the guy!
Well, YOU'VE LEARNT YOUR LESSON. Next time you'll be more circumspect!
Bye bye!

Your bullshit is paper thin. You couldn't even help yourself you copied elements of the FreeIgboho last post. LoLz.