Abi1985:
1. The year 2022 is ending and there is no one who is not facing a challenge or two. No one is built to be independent and to do things on their own. Life is not alway smooth sailing. You need to pray and believe God will answer in his refect will. If Jesus Christ pray to God one on one and frequently then we ought to follow the Lord footsteps and do what the Jesus did.

2. And if things are going smooth and your prayers has been answered. Remember to Thank God in prayer. For 2023, be intentional on your prayer life.

Kobojunkiee:
Believe God will answer? God instead said that He will only answer the prayer of those who obey Him, so isn't it a lie to claim God will answer those who believe He will answer them? Every year, 100s of millions of Churchians, billions even, do exactly what you prescribe, and every year they all fail to realize the answers to their prayers. Isn't it about time we adopt God's very own narrative in place of these lies we continue to broadcast as if by mentioning Him we justify the lies we tell?

2. Unbelievers do not pray yet they seem to have it better than the majority of Churchians. Doesn't that cause you to maybe consider that what you are doing is definitely not right since it does not even measure any better than that which is the life of those who don't even regard God?

Abi1985:
Ok God answer prayer according to his Will.

Kobojunkiee:
Believe God will answer? God instead said that He will only answer the prayer of those who obey Him, so isn't it a lie to claim God will answer those who believe He will answer them? Every year, 100s of millions of Churchians, billions even, do exactly what you prescribe, and every year they all fail to realize the answers to their prayers. Isn't it about time we adopt God's very own narrative in place of these lies we continue to broadcast as if by mentioning Him we justify the lies we tell?

2. Unbelievers do not pray yet they seem to have it better than the majority of Churchians. Doesn't that cause you to maybe consider that what you are doing is definitely not right since it does not even measure any better than that which is the life of those who don't even regard God?

Abi1985:


Ok God answer prayer according to his Will.

Truvelisback:
Don't mind Kobojunkiee, he just like argueing blindly.

Truvelisback:
Is praying to God not an act of obedience?

Kobojunkiee:
God made clear that the prayer of sinners is an abomination to Him so clearly praying to God is not an act of obedience to God. Instead obeying God's commandments and teachings is instead the act of obedience.

Truvelisback:
U are now digressing to prayers of sinners. Is that what Op is saying? Is the prayer of the righteous not act of obedience?

Truvelisback:
Is praying to God not an act of obedience?

Truvelisback:
Is praying to God not an act of obedience?

Dtruthspeaker:


No it is not!

Even the sinner prays and what did God say?

John 9:31,
Now we know that God does not hear sinners.

Truvelisback:
What if sinners pray in repentance, won't God hear him? Is that not an act of obedience? The parable of the Pharisee and the sinner is a good example.

Kobojunkiee:
▪︎A sinner is a person who is already under Law, in this case God's New Covenant and agreement of peace, meaning the person already claims to believe in God and so is mandated to submit to and obey God's teachings and commandments just as everyone else under Law is required to, but refuses to. No amount of doing that which is not commanded will cause God to change His mind in that regard.
▪︎ There is no such thing as prayer of repentance as repentance is only accomplished through obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ regarding repentance.

▪︎ What the sinner did in that parable was seek for his forgiveness in accordance with that stipulated in God's Law .I.e. his act was in obedience to stipulated law. In addition, if he hadn't observed other connected laws such as that which demands he forgive all others who have erred against Him before approaching God with His request, the Law says he will not be forgiven by God. Is such a case, He would simply be a sinner-- one who refuses to obey God's Law - demanding forgiveness from God and that is an abomination.

So, you see, obedience of God's commandment is what is mandated in all cases.

Truvelisback:
U and ur long epistle. Na simple question i ask.

Truvelisback:
What if sinners pray in repentance, won't God hear him? Is that not an act of obedience?

Dtruthspeaker:


Repentance is really not a prayer but an action carried exactly as obedience is an action carried out, and not a prayer.

Truvelisback:
Repentance can be prayer too. We have different kinds of prayer. We have prayer of repentance.

Kobojunkiee:
Your prayers of repentance are a lie. Open your eyes to see how even your very own prayers of repentance continue to go unanswered to this day. Your life remains tangled up in many of the same sins you supposedly prayed your prayers of repentance for several times. That should serve as more than enough evidence for you that such prayers are meaningless.

Truvelisback:
Why was the prayer of the sinner who went with the pharisee to the synangouge to pray answered? What prayer did he offer?

9 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt:
10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
11 The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’
13 But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.” - Luke 18 vs 9 - 14

Truvelisback:
Repentance can be prayer too. We have different kinds of prayer. We have prayer of repentance.

Dtruthspeaker:


Truth is, this is True. Even though I would say that such prayer is a nullity if it was not accompanied with the action of repentance.

Truvelisback:
It is. If done genuinely from the heart. Hezekiah prayed same prayer, David prayed it, the people of Niniveh prayed it etc.

Abi1985:
The year 2022 is ending and there is no one who is not facing a challenge or two. No one is built to be independent and to do things on their own. Life is not alway smooth sailing. You need to pray and believe God will answer in his refect will. If Jesus Christ pray to God one on one and frequently then we ought to follow the Lord footsteps and do what the Jesus did.
And if things are going smooth and your prayers has been answered. Remember to Thank God in prayer. For 2023, be intentional on your prayer life.

Abi1985:


Ok God answer prayer according to his Will.

FRANCISTOWN:


^{Good morning sir. Please give me one proof that prayer works , show me how prayer is not just some placebos effect. This is not to ensue you to any forms of argument. If you had enough time in your hands, we can have a decent discussion. I am not an atheist as you may have assumed.}

Kobojunkiee:
It is made clear in scripture that the prayer of sinners is an abomination to God -Proverbs 15:8-29 -, so clearly simply praying to God is not in itself an act of obedience. Instead obedience of God's commandments and teachings is instead the act of obedience that honors God. Your Churchian prayer rituals have nothing to do with that commanded by God hence amounts to an abomination.

Dtruthspeaker:


Ah woman you already know that you are enemies of God because you people are fully evil and belong to Satan, so you already know that God can not be hearing your prayers not to talk of answering them.

Not to talk of the fact that your prayers are even evil and wicked on top of all the wickedness and evil you have done and are still do.

FRANCISTOWN:


^{Good morning sir. Please give me one proof that prayer works , show me how prayer is not just some placebos effect. This is not to ensue you to any forms of argument. If you had enough time in your hands, we can have a decent discussion. I am not an atheist as you may have assumed.}

Abi1985:


I will just tell my own experience. I pray for a child, my wife had a child. I pray for protection while I was driving and I got home safely. There was a huge accident on my way home, yet I was spared. So yes I believe God answers prayers according to his perfect will. God is good all the time and I trust God. Pray without cease and Follow the way Jesus prayed and that is my message to you.

FRANCISTOWN:

^{I'm glad that your God answers your prayers. But as for me, I do not pray, but since prayer works so well for you, I'll encourage you to keep on with it as I always say, only a stupid man will leave what works, and a more foolish man will keep doing what doesn't work}