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Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by MeineMutter: 12:57pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
blaise26abj: Pain me? What have you said that can pain me? Abi I knocked you off your dullar.d, feet of religion zombie. Hypocrite. Crying than bereaved. Onijibiti forming religion defender. |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by blaise26abj(m): 2:21pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
MeineMutter: Feet of religion zombie ? Crying than bereaved ? Hahahaha . Wallahi Awolowo will be turning in his grave . Where did I defend religion ? Very Low IQ terrorist. Continue in your ignorance, ODE ! . . |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by vivaciousvivi(f): 5:18pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
babz11:A question please. The picture in OP's post is of Asian origin. Was the Holy Prophet originally non African? Thanks |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by Fujiyama: 9:21pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
Originalsly: ^^^ The devil is in the details. I hope Hamline's limits (whatever they may be) on academic freedom are not unconstitutional. The way things are going the courts may eventually decide this matter. If Prof Lopez decides to seek legal redress and the courts agree that her constitutional rights (according to US law) have been abridged then she will be compensated. That's just the way it is - Hamline's conservatism or liberalism won't be of any significance when it comes to the law and how it is interpreted. Originalsly: ^^^ There is something that needs to be understood. If US law does not recognize blasphemy as a crime there isn't much that Muslims can do about it, legally speaking. The law is the law. The same way that if Nigerian law criminalizes same sex marriage in Nigeria - there is nothing gay rights advocates can do about it. The law is the law. I don't know what you mean about "devasting repercussions to the university and the community". Originalsly: ^^^ It depends on what Nigerian law says. Under US law for example, some types of hard core pornography are not regarded as free speech or expression. Posting such will get you in trouble in that country. As far as I am aware, Nigeria's Cybercrimes Act (2015) does criminalize the posting of pornography and indecent or obscene material (although I don't know if these terms are actually clearly defined under these laws) on computer systems or networks. So...the Covenant University professor will likely get into hot water (legally speaking) if he decides to illustrate a point in class with pornographic material on a computer. As an aside, even if the 'academic freedom' argument is able to fly, what good will that do if prof is facing a conviction? On to the heart of the matter...I am not aware of Nigerian law that criminalizes the posting of images of religious figures from Islam, Christianity, African Traditional Religion (ATR), Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Jainism, Sikhism etc. 1 Like |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by Originalsly: 12:19am On Jan 12, 2023 |
Fujiyama: I do appreciate your response! To me you make the matter a legal one ... was posting the image unconstitutional or criminal? ... was a legal boundary crossed rather than that of the university. On possible compensation.... if she was fired it is possible but the report first stated her contract will not be renewed which will kill any legal fight for compensation. Later on the report said she was fired .... so who knows? On devastating repercussions.... in a heartbeat ... the Muslim community can organize protests against the university.... disrupting the community... and bringing negative publicity to the institution which no doubt will impact their student intake.... which would mean less money for the institution. Money above anything else.... that University will do anything to maintain the bottom line and I strongly believe this is the real cause of the Professor having to leave .... the controversy can affect the profits. 1 Like |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by MeineMutter: 12:37am On Jan 12, 2023 |
blaise26abj: You are still pained because of the way Awo dealt with your ancestors, abi? That’s why you are looking for who to vent your anger on. Don’t worry, history will repeat itself. We will send you r present generation to another hell of starvation and hunger after the election, if you try to foment any trouble. |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by blaise26abj(m): 1:28am On Jan 12, 2023 |
MeineMutter:Still in my mentions and still jumping into conclusions? Ori e ko pe. Omo ale Yoruba . Eranko ni e . Omo irankiran. Apayan . Jaguda . Ki awon eyan ku nitori pe won ki se omo Yoruba ? Awon ti won bi e won ko e , boya won je ko e iwo ni o gbeko . Ti awon ti e o ba fe se asedanu , kooti mi le kan si . Bloody Terrorist . |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by Fujiyama: 7:05am On Jan 12, 2023 |
Originalsly: ^^^ Exactly. You get my point. I don't know if Hamline explicitly states what staff can or cannot do in the name of academic freedom - which was why I asked a poster what he understood academic freedom to mean. If academic freedom isn't defined and clearly understood by all parties (the university as well as its faculty) then interpretation gets murky...whereas US constitutional law is reasonably clear on what constitutes free speech. A lawyer representing Lopez will be able to argue in court whether or not her employer's actions were unconstitutional. I don't know whether the lawyers in the house will agree with what I have said so far. Originalsly: ^^^ True. It will be interesting to see which way Lopez' lawyers will argue this point if the matter goes to court. I honestly don't know if her lawyers can successfully make a legal case challenging Hamline's decision not to renew her contract (if indeed the university chose not to renew it). Time will tell. Originalsly: ^^^ Not sure I agree with your point up there. Controversy can affect profits, but in which direction? While it is true that most organizations generally avoid controversy, there are times when it is inevitable and then the key issue becomes the organization's response to the controversy. Hamline clearly wants Lopez to leave. It is indeed very possible that some students will approve of the university's actions and may decide to consider attending for this very reason. Student intake may very well increase because the university has decided to let her go. But...it is also very possible that some students may disapprove of Hamline's actions and strike it off the list of universities they wish to attend. Hamline's student intake may very well decrease because of the decision to let Prof Lopez go. It could go either way. This case brings to mind the 2012 lawsuit filed against a US baker (Jack Philips, owner of Masterpiece cakeshop) who refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple because it violated his religious beliefs. Philips is in court to this day, despite a partial US Supreme Court victory in 2018. But what is important here is that although he has lost business for his religious convictions, there have also been very strong expressions of support. His business is still running, despite the controversy - indeed some customers have contributed to his legal defence and still patronize his business to this day. 1 Like |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by MeineMutter: 1:02pm On Jan 12, 2023 |
blaise26abj: You would see shege. Anumpa. |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by Godsownfc(m): 1:18pm On Jan 12, 2023 |
Nawa ohh |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by Coolgent(m): 2:35pm On Jan 12, 2023 |
Nice one |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by jaggabban: 6:38pm On Jan 12, 2023 |
CodeTemplar:Oga answer my question. What is her business with religion? Why must the students see prophet's picture? Is it a religious class? Even in IRK, you can not show any image to represent the prophet. U guys like wahala, it is their prophet and their religion but u guys will not stay on ur lane. |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by CodeTemplar: 8:30pm On Jan 12, 2023 |
jaggabban:their religion? Meaning they have their god in custody. Lol |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by edoairways: 9:38pm On Jan 12, 2023 |
BluntTheApostle:That is a big fat lie |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by jaggabban: 3:32am On Jan 13, 2023 |
CodeTemplar:You see, No questions answered, I get it. |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by CodeTemplar: 3:39am On Jan 13, 2023 |
jaggabban:how can I answer any other question when someone already owns the religion and the right to Interpret the religion. In the class in question the complaining Muslim student wasn't the only Muslim student around but her complain, since negative, had to be regarded as the supreme interpretation of islam because Islam prioritizes evil and chaos above good and orderliness. What a negative religion. |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by Konquest: 6:01am On Jan 13, 2023 |
sisisioge:How's it going SisiOge? Nicely put. I can see facts in your POV. I've known for years too about these other Islamic paintings and art representations because decades back, I grew up reading large volumes of encyclopedia in my family home library. There are different branches or sects among Muslims. This is the reason why different interpretations exist of their religious texts. Even Judaism has its strong roots in the Persian Zoroastrian religion of their Persian colonial masters under Cyrus the Great who was the Emperor of the Persian Empire! The biblical prophets who were agents of Persia refered to Persian Emperors as "King of Kings" ("Shah han Shah" in the Persian language) in the Old Testament like in Ezra, because the Emperors were seen as the earthly representatives of the universal God of heaven (Ahuramazda). The word Pharisee (the biggest branch of Judaism till today) is derived from Parsi (which means Persian or modern-day Iran). Just like you, I have always been open to new facts and have an aversion to dogmatic teachings where questions cannot be asked by folks. I have shared these with you because you will easily comprehend these facts which have been in the public domain for decades... over 100 years now based on the advanced works of archaeologists and historians. Last but not least, read up on D.M Murdock (Acharya S) and her excellent works and free YouTube videos on the Pagan "Sun Gods" in history to know that the Jesus of the bible was the personification of the sun. Hence he was used allegorically as the SUN. Sunday is the day of the worship of the sun. I have some of her books and videos as well in my own home library collections. Ancient religions were based on astro-theology or the worship of the sun and moon pre-and post our Common Era. Son of God is actually the SUN of God. Son was corrupted from SUN while translating into English because the original text or manuscript was rendered as "sun NOT son." Talk to you later. Have a great day SisiOge. 1 Like |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by MDK777: 6:01pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
[quote author=MDK777 post=119882745][/quote] ideots |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by realmindz: 1:28pm On Mar 23, 2023 |
Zubi10:Don’t ever make promises you u can never fulfill |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by XAUBulls: 2:15pm On Dec 15, 2023 |
Re: U.S. Professor Fired For Showing Paintings Of Prophet Muhammad To Students by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:06pm On Dec 15, 2023 |
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