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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by Idiko1: 7:09am On Jan 17, 2023
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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by seeyounow: 7:26am On Jan 17, 2023
Spirit04:
How many traditional leaders from other regions did Buhari kill in his 1983 coup?
You don't know why the January 1966 coup was different?
Check the names of those killed and those of their killers
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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by tctrills: 7:59am On Jan 17, 2023
raumdeuter:


How many leaders were killed in 1983
How many common men die of hunger due to Buhari's gov each day. Still you fail to answer the question, was 1983 coup a Fulani coup?
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by tctrills: 8:02am On Jan 17, 2023
HedwigesMaduro:
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Fulani planned a coup to topple another fulani, and didn't go on a killing spree of other regional heads while sparing his own. What form of contaminated brain would compare that to what happened in 1966?!
So it's ok to plan a coup ad long as the sitting president is from your tribe?
Yes every coup is different but then if you blame today's Igbos for 1966 coup would you blame the Fulani s for Buhari's coup?
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by tctrills: 8:03am On Jan 17, 2023
PrinceofSarcasm:


But must be stupid honestly.
Only a fool without Brian's will not see that you are a Tinubu supporter pretending to be something else just creating useless tribalism inciting posts across the forum while commenting with your own accounts

Obidients don't care about all this rubbish you are creating

You are a useless tout
This one no get sense at all.

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by tctrills: 8:06am On Jan 17, 2023
Tingotoe:
It wasn't the same. The 1966 coup was planned by a section of junior Ibo officers who took out the entire military and civilian leadership of the north and West, while the 1983 coup was carried out by the majority of the armed forces leadership. The 1966 coup was an Ibo coup
Majority of the armed forces was northerners. So would we call it a northern coup?
The point I am making is, should we begin to ascribe everything done by individuals to an entire tribe?
For example, should we say that because Buhari is an evil leader, every Fulani man is guilty of his misrule?
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by Fejoku: 8:07am On Jan 17, 2023
owobokiri:
Bukar Sukar Dimka emptied a full magazine of bullets in the head of Gen Murtala Mohammed while Murtala was the Head of State! Dimka was arrested and killed for this! If I ask any of you about Dimkas ethnicity, 99% won't know!

Major Gideon Orkar blasted most of Doddan baracks in his quest to arrest Babangida during his coup. Lots of people died. He will later exercise the present day North West including Niger State out of Nigeria and freely handed them over to Niger republic!
Few people here know about Orkars tribe!

So what's the fixation on the January 15 coup? The present Head of State has participated in atleast 3 coups! Yet you all rewarded him with the presidency! The fulani herdsmen are emptying villages all over Nigeria in the most gruesome ways possible, yet no one harasses Atiku or Kwankwaso about that! Boko Haram wants to turn all of Nigeria into a Muslim caliphate! But none of you is worried about Shettimma as a vee pee.., a man accused of starting Boko Haram!

Let's just say that the January 15 coup had become a very convinient smokescreen, through which all firebrand tribalist in Nigeria, attack their political rivals from the East, without any fear of being called out for such crude petty brand of base politics.
You couldn't have written it any better.
Only one coup out of eight is attached to an ethnic group and serves as a vehicle of hate against them to the tune of carrying out a genocide against them. More than half a century later, they're still being attacked for it yet they wonder why we want out.

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by PrinceofSarcasm: 8:10am On Jan 17, 2023
tctrills:

This one no get sense at all.

Pig...

Just showing us how poor your upbringing was...

Iliterate
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by tctrills: 8:13am On Jan 17, 2023
PrinceofSarcasm:


Pig...

Just showing us how poor your upbringing was...

Iliterate
Oga, it's you showing that you can't read or understand. You are just an online troll. We put fools like you in your place.

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by OgaSeun: 8:17am On Jan 17, 2023
rippa:

Pls the leader of the coup was a delta man born and brought up in the North
Do another propaganda

Even Ojukwu was born and bred in the North
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Igbo the original Fulani slave

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by rippa(m): 8:24am On Jan 17, 2023
OgaSeun:


Even Ojukwu was born and bred in the North
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Igbo the original Fulani slave
Delta is not igbo pls
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by tctrills: 8:31am On Jan 17, 2023
rippa:

Delta is not igbo pls
Oga Ozeogwu is an Igbo man. Delta is a state with many tribes including Igbo. But you should not be ashamed. Igbo's are not responsible for Nzeogwu actions.

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by PrinceofSarcasm: 8:36am On Jan 17, 2023
tctrills:

Oga, it's you showing that you can't read or understand. You are just an online troll. We put fools like you in your place.

What do you mean by we?

Iliterate. If you can't type in proper English why not type in pidgin?
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by Officialgarri: 8:41am On Jan 17, 2023
gidgiddy:



Oh I see. So it is important because it was the first coup? Is there any country in West Africa that did not go through coup in the 60's and 70's? They all did, there's a first time for everything

The nature of coup us that officers from a particular part of the country come together and plan coup


Murtalas couo is never called a Hausa coup

Buhari's coup is never called a Fulani coup

Babangidas coup is never called a Gwari coup

None of the 7 other coups that happened in Nigeria has ethnic tag except that first coup


Even though your current President overthrew the democratically elected government of Shehu Shagari, you Nigerians had no problems electing and re-electing him

But if an Igbo man runs for the same office, you people will remember first coup and give it ethnic tag

I laugh in Chinese
You know the problem with majority of Igbos? Majority of you have been mentally battered to a fault that you are easily agitated, feel so inferior and so scared ... that you are always quick to assume that everyone is out to attack your tribe.
This can be likened to the tradition of North Korea and why they are in the bondage they are.

I literally just explained why the Igbo coup which was the First coup is so important than other coups that followed but you kept going in circles .

What's Nigeria's coup got to do with how other Africans see their coup. Are you living in other countries to know what coup was most traumatizing to them?

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by gidgiddy: 8:51am On Jan 17, 2023
Officialgarri:
You know the problem with majority of Igbos? Majority of you have been mentally battered to a fault that you are easily agitated, feel so inferior and so scared ... that you are always quick to assume that everyone is out to attack your tribe.
This can be likened to the tradition of North Korea and why they are in the bondage they are.

I literally just explained why the Igbo coup which was the First coup is so important than other coups that followed but you kept going in circles .

What's Nigeria's coup got to do with how other Africans see their coup. Are you living in other countries to know what coup was most traumatizing to them?

Nigeria is waste of time and your likes confirm it every day. It is time to give Igbos a referendum so we can exit Nigeria while the rest of you carry on
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by Officialgarri: 8:56am On Jan 17, 2023
gidgiddy:


Nigeria is waste of time and your likes confirm it every day. It is time to give Igbos a referendum so we can exit Nigeria while the rest of you carry on
Gidgiddy make your choice and tell your people to make their choice .

Biafra or Obi .

It will be a show of shame to go back to the Biafran drawing if Peter Obi loses this election.
Remember that 2 months ago, y'all said Nnamdi Kanu should be left to rot in jail when he was suddenly cleared of majority of the charges

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by Okwyjesus(m): 9:03am On Jan 17, 2023
Tingotoe:
It wasn't the same. The 1966 coup was planned by a section of junior Ibo officers who took out the entire military and civilian leadership of the north and West, while the 1983 coup was carried out by the majority of the armed forces leadership. The 1966 coup was an Ibo coup
And the 3 millions lgbos that died during the war is not enough sacrifice.

Why is IGBOS SIN TOO DIFFICULT TO FORGIVE IN NIGERIA
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by Owontime: 9:14am On Jan 17, 2023
Shut up your IPOB mouth,mumu.
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by owobokiri(m): 9:27am On Jan 17, 2023
raumdeuter:


Dimka and Orkar were promptly tried and killed
Unlike Ifeajuna Nwobosi Onwuatiegwu Okafor and Nzeogwu

The law that prescribed the death penalty for coup plotters/plotting was enacted several years after the January 15 coup! Actually, it was Obasanjo that enacted the decrees and backtracked them in other to have enough constitutional ground to murder most middle belt officers in the Army accused of masterminding the coup against his boss Murtala. There was no such laws in Nigeria in the 60s! Capital punishment for coup plotting became the law in Nigeria AFTER January 15 and NOT before January 15!

Infact, as heinous as coup plotting and violent overthrows of governments were across the developing world, it was not a crime punishable with death penalty in most of these countries around this period. Jerry Rawlings was arrested for coup plotting and was in jail before he worked with loyal troops to mount a second coup. Hugo Chavez was arrested and given a mere sentence for a previous involvement in a coup plot in Venezuela. He would regroup after that to unleash a second coup and take over power.

Btw, for whatever it's worth, Oladipo Diya and Gen Adisa them, were in Abachas gulag for months and were not executed as some of you would have wanted if they were Igbos, irrespective of the fact that they were all caught with their tribal hands in the cookie jar as they were plotting to hyjack power and kill their principal, Gen Sani Abacha! Abacha in his discretion, took the decision not to carry out the brutal Tribunal judgements because of the political tension across the country then. What if Gen Ironsi was thinking in like manners? After all, it was the same Ironsi THAT SQUASHED THE COUP in the first place.
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by omonnakoda: 9:44am On Jan 17, 2023
owobokiri:
Bukar Sukar Dimka emptied a full magazine of bullets in the head of Gen Murtala Mohammed while Murtala was the Head of State! Dimka was arrested and killed for this! If I ask any of you about Dimkas ethnicity, 99% won't know!

Major Gideon Orkar blasted most of Doddan baracks in his quest to arrest Babangida during his coup. Lots of people died. He will later exercise the present day North West including Niger State out of Nigeria and freely handed them over to Niger republic!
Few people here know about Orkars tribe!

So what's the fixation on the January 15 coup? The present Head of State has participated in atleast 3 coups! Yet you all rewarded him with the presidency! The fulani herdsmen are emptying villages all over Nigeria in the most gruesome ways possible, yet no one harasses Atiku or Kwankwaso about that! Boko Haram wants to turn all of Nigeria into a Muslim caliphate! But none of you is worried about Shettimma as a vee pee.., a man accused of starting Boko Haram!

Let's just say that the January 15 coup had become a very convinient smokescreen, through which all firebrand tribalist in Nigeria, attack their political rivals from the East, without any fear of being called out for such crude petty brand of base politics.
Dimka was apprehended and tried later executed
Ironsi did not try anyone

1966 was the bloodiest coup with many civilian deaths for no reason
None of those killed politicians were Ibos
What was the reason for killing them?
Those were the main issues
Excessive killings of civilians. Why was a pregnant woman killed? The wife of Ademulegun
Killing non Iboes and sparing Iboes
Failure to bring plotters to trial

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by omonnakoda: 9:49am On Jan 17, 2023
Okwyjesus:

And the 3 millions lgbos that died during the war is not enough sacrifice.

Why is IGBOS SIN TOO DIFFICULT TO FORGIVE IN NIGERIA
I believe they were forgiven

What evidence do you have that they were not forgiven?
In 1979 A n Ibo became Vice President and Speaker House of representatives in the first election after the war?

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by rippa(m): 9:51am On Jan 17, 2023
tctrills:

Oga Ozeogwu is an Igbo man. Delta is a state with many tribes including Igbo. But you should not be ashamed. Igbo's are not responsible for Nzeogwu actions.
Delta is not igbo
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by tctrills: 9:59am On Jan 17, 2023
rippa:

Delta is not igbo
Oga what tribe does an Asaba man come from?
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by Superwave16320: 10:32am On Jan 17, 2023
Will you wailing to death stop me from voting Bola Ahmed Tinubu
Oddfinder12:

Go tell ur paymasters dat u guys are outnumbered by sensible Nigerians on nl.
Ur candidate is not sellable. Going tribal will not make him win. If we all choose to go tribal, Tinubu will com 4th after kwankwaso. Abi u think abokis will leave Atiku or Kwankwaso to vote tinubu?

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by Oddfinder12: 10:47am On Jan 17, 2023
Superwave16320:
Will you wailing to death stop me from voting Bola Ahmed Tinubu
We are going to turn around the power sector. Nigeria today generates about 5,000 megawatts for 200 million people and South Africa, the second biggest in terms of economy on the continent, 60 million people, generates over 40,000 megawatts, yet, they have declared an emergency in the power sector.
“If a country with 60 million population generating over 40,000MW is declaring emergency on power, what do you think somebody with 200 million people generating between 5,000MW and 6,000MW will do? I am going to declare war on power and I will solve it. Anybody who stands on the way, so be it.”
PETER OBI. LONDON, 2023
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by owobokiri(m): 10:51am On Jan 17, 2023
omonnakoda:
Dimka was apprehended and tried later executed
Ironsi did not try anyone

1966 was the bloodiest coup with many civilian deaths for no reason
None of those killed politicians were Ibos
What was the reason for killing them?
Those were the main issues
Excessive killings of civilians. Why was a pregnant woman killed? The wife of Ademulegun
Killing non Iboes and sparing Iboes
Failure to bring plotters to trial

The revolutionary coup was planned and prosecuted to eliminate political vermins responsible for dashing the hope of many Nigerians after independence. Lots of Nigerians couldn't understand why the Sarduana and Akintola were hellbent on setting the country on fire the same way Buhari and Tinubu are desperate to burn down Nigeria! Simple! It was not a coup contracted to "kill ibibio leaders and leave Anang leaders" as you would wishfully like to think. It was a REVOLUTION against the neocolonial proxies masquerading as Nigerian patriots within the political scene then. If most of the corrupt victims come from your neighborhood, take a second look at your culture!

It was not Nnamdi Azikiwe that started "Operation Wetie" in the Western region, a wayward Akintola did! Neither was it Michael Okpara or Dr Akanu Ibiam that went behind with the British to give Europeans more employment opportunities in Northern Nigeria than to fellow Nigerians, irrespective of the qualifications, the Sarduana did so! The northernization of the Nigerian Army which triggered Nzeogwu is the sole reason why you have been ruled by the likes of Abacha, Buhari and Babangida! It wasn't the easterners that tried to northernize the Army! Sarduana, Balewa and Ribadu did.

So whenever your tribal guts pushes you to complain about the so called "killings of the leaders of other ethnic groups", do remember that one miserable Obafemi Awolowo was tucked away in a dingy Calabar prison by the same Sarduana/Akintola/balewa combo. He was there on the night of the January 15 coup! If the elimination of the leaders of other ethnic groups was the primary motive behind the coup, the coupist who easily took control of the East, would have gone there to slaughter him! Why didn't the do that?

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by Nobody: 11:01am On Jan 17, 2023
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For me, the first Nigerian coup was a counter coup sort of, listen to the hate and division from the sardauna here

https://twitter.com/maazi_chinedu/status/1372905709659119624?t=1HkE_MTkYBvjn9tLINj6-w&s=19
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by BATified2023: 11:42am On Jan 17, 2023
tctrills:

How many common men die of hunger due to Buhari's gov each day. Still you fail to answer the question, was 1983 coup a Fulani coup?
1983 coup was meant solely for change of governance without killing other region leaders like the Igbo coup where no Igbo leader died

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Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by BATified2023: 11:48am On Jan 17, 2023
Okwyjesus:

And the 3 millions lgbos that died during the war is not enough sacrifice.

Why is IGBOS SIN TOO DIFFICULT TO FORGIVE IN NIGERIA
because till today igbos don’t realize they made a mistake n if given d chance they will repeat it again


Same character u are displaying here when many of u igbos are saying if u have a gun u will kill tinubu n atiku n leave peter obi

I actually asked a question as regards how our leaders have impoverished us

I asked what u will do to the 3 main aspirants if u were given a gun n majority of Igbo known monikers replied they will kill atiku n tinubu n none talked about obi

So it’s obvious u people will still repeat d same mistake if given d chance
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by tctrills: 11:56am On Jan 17, 2023
BATified2023:
1983 coup was meant solely for change of governance without killing other region leaders like the Igbo coup where no Igbo leader died
You mean the Fulani coup no one died ok. But my question is, was 1983 a Northern coup?
Also do we blame the many failures of the Buhari government on the Fulani people? Thousands of people die from bad government each day. Do we blame their deaths on the Fulani tribe? Would you also blame Awolowo's treason on the Yoruba people? Would you blame the people that were killed and women raped in Odi under Obasanjo's command on the Yoruba people?
Re: Blame The Igbo's For 1966 Coup. Who Do We Blame For 1983? by tctrills: 12:04pm On Jan 17, 2023
BATified2023:
1983 coup was meant solely for change of governance without killing other region leaders like the Igbo coup where no Igbo leader died
My second response to you.
Find here the full list of the coup plotters and their tribes:-

1. Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu(Igbo)
2. Major Adewale Ademoyega (Yoruba) author of "Why we struck"
3. Capt. G. Adeleke(Yoruba)
4. Maj. Ifeajuna(Igbo)
5. Lt. Fola Oyewole(Yoruba) author of "The reluctant rebel"
6. Lt. R. Egbiko(Esan)
7. Lt. Tijani Katsina(Hausa/Fulani)
8. Lt. O. Olafemiyan(Yoruba)
9. Capt. Gibson Jalo(Bali)
10. Capt. Swanton(Middle Belt)
11. Lt. Hope Harris Eghagha (Urhobo)
12. Lt. Dag Warribor(Ijaw)
13. 2nd Lt. Saleh Dambo(Hausa)
14. 2nd Lt. John Atom Kpera (Tiv).

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