Since the names of voters are not captured on ballot papers to be able to cross check with the BVAS register on whom they voted for. How did they know which party overvoted.

For example:
APC can still overvote without winning. It's common sense

Total accredited voters 300
APC 150
PDP 200

Toral vote cast 350.

On what ground will tribunal the ay that the overvoting must have came from PDP and APC wasn't involved?

Is this not why we should start printing people to write the names on their voters card on the ballot paper before voting?

How did they know how many figures PDP added and APC did? How can they just cancel all when it's possible that APC sponsored the overvoting to disqualify those polling units? Since they are already losing there.


This constitution is basically telling us to fight and kill ourselves to defend our polling units.

The total votes cast in areas of over voting will be cancelled.
The reason why it favors a party A compared to B is that A is likely to challenge results from B stronghold which will play a significant role in B total result while the result of A to be deducted is insignificant to have any impact

Workch:
Since the names of voters are not captured on ballot papers to be able to cross check with the BVAS register on whom they voted for. How did they know which party overvoted.

For example:
APC can still overvote without winning. It's common sense

Total accredited voters 3000
APC 150
PDP 200

Toral vote cast 350.

On what ground the tribunal you say that the overvoting must have came from PDP and APC wasn't involved?

Is this not why we should start printing allowing people to write the names on their voters card on their ballot paper before voting?

How did they know how many figures PDP added and APC did?


Adeleke legal team should be smart abeg

you are very right bro

OlujobaSamuel:
The total votes cast in areas of over voting will be cancelled.
The reason why it favors a party A compared to B is that A is likely to challenge results from B stronghold which will play a significant role in B total result while the result of A to be deducted is insignificant to have any impact

So it means that, if I am losing in a polling unit, I can sponsor overvoting, so that polling unit can be canceled?

Am I right?
This process is shit after all

It is a simple logic.

Why should Oyetola go and sponsor overvoting in the region where Adeleke is strong to his own detriment? You mean Oyetola will agree that people should overvote in Ede in support of Adeleke?

All this court case self na gamble.

Johnnyessence:
you are very right bro

for example if am APC and I know that PDP has won x polling unit, I can just do overvoting there for that polling unit to be canceled.


This election is very rigable

LegendHero:
It is a simple logic.

Why should Oyetola go and sponsor overvoting in the region where Adeleke is strong to his own detriment? You mean Oyetola will agree that people should overvote in Ede in support of Adeleke?

It's very possible, there's nothing money cannot achieve. This election is fraud.

I can sponsor overvoting in your polling unit for it to be cancelled 😂😂☺️

Shit men. It Means that we have to be extremely vigilant. Very vigilant

Workch:
It's very possible, there's nothing money cannot achieve. This election is fraud.

I can sponsor overvoting in your polling unit for it to be cancelled 😂😂☺️

Shit men

It is not that easy like you are making it seem.

I think what Adeleke played on was that BVAS was still at the initial stage then so they are not able to fully understand the gravity of that overvoting.

What politicians that sabi the game are doing is more of vote buying rather than actually tempting BVAS with overvoting.

OlujobaSamuel:
The total votes cast in areas of over voting will be cancelled.
The reason why it favors a party A compared to B is that A is likely to challenge results from B stronghold which will play a significant role in B total result while the result of A to be deducted is insignificant to have any impact

That does not answer the question sir.
What if party A's members in the socalled party B's strongholds are the ones that over-voted so that all the votes from PDP's strongholds can be cancelled?

FreedomfromtheT:
That does not answer the question sir.
What if party A's members in the socalled party B's strongholds are the ones that over-voted so that all the votes from PDP's strongholds can be cancelled?

How many polling unit can you strategically do overvoting in your opponent stronghold?

Now it comes to the game of numbers. How many people will betray their comrades in their stronghold for you.

LegendHero:


It is not that easy like you are making it seem.

I think what Adeleke played on was that BVAS was still at the initial stage then so they are not able to fully understand the gravity of that overvoting.

What politicians that sabi the game are doing is more of vote buying rather than actually tempting BVAS with overvoting.

it's very easy to induce inec staffs to cause overvoting.

What are you saying?

Unless you stand there until results are transmitted. Who says they cannot do it in some of this hinterlands.

It's very easy

Our law is in total mess , but I trust the superior court to do justice to this case.kangaroo judgement like that of imo state is still very much in our mind.

The tribunal should have ordered a rerun not delve to determining which party did the over voting. Apc did not score zero in the wards where there was over voting so how did tribunal determine that since pdp won in those pu, it must be their over voting. This is a repeat of imo state all over. Courts should not award results

Unless everyone at polling unit agreed with u to vote without accreditation. So far BVAS didn’t capture such voter people can only connive with it in conjunction with INEC to succeed

The question is how will the over voting be done with bvas and PVCs?

So only people with PVC registered in a polling unit can vote. Can there be double voting? If not, then they should know the votes which appeared twice.

If I send thugs to a polling unit to over vote, the bvas should say that I've voted somewhere already and disallow me from voting.

LegendHero:


How many polling unit can you strategically do overvoting in your opponent stronghold?

Now it comes to the game of numbers. How many people will betray their comrades in their stronghold for you.

It is possible sir.
For instance, Imo state is a Labour Party stronghold but Hope Uzodinma of the APC is governor of same Imo state.
Are you saying that the Imo state governor cannot encourage overvoting in most of the polling boots in Imo state if he wants to cause a damage to Peter Obi's electoral victory?

nedu666:
The tribunal should have ordered a rerun not delve to determining which party did the over voting. Apc did not score zero in the wards where there was over voting so how did tribunal determine that since pdp won in those pu, it must be their over voting. This is a repeat of imo state all over. Courts should not award results

Go and read the new electoral law and come back here to delete the bolded from your comment.

There will be no rerun in that unit if there is overvoting. It will be cancelled.

You people are starting to seem like law breakers. You only applaud a law when it favors you.

nedu666:
The tribunal should have ordered a rerun not delve to determining which party did the over voting. Apc did not score zero in the wards where there was over voting so how did tribunal determine that since pdp won in those pu, it must be their over voting. This is a repeat of imo state all over. Courts should not award results

yes, a rerun should have been the logic.

Which one is cancel, what rubbish?

FreedomfromtheT:
It is possible sir.
For instance, Imo state is a Labour Party stronghold but Hope Uzodinma of the APC is governor of same Imo state.
Are you saying that the Imo state governor cannot encourage overvoting in most of the polling boots in Imo state if he wants to cause a damage to Peter Obi's electoral victory?

Well you are right. But what I am saying is that, how many polling unit will he be able to influence if the people are truly on Obi side and ready to guard their votes?

Are you going to look on when same person voting multiple times and not raise alarm? Can he do it in let's say 200 polling unit before their cover will be blown?

You should understand Nigeria, no matter the law you do, there will be loophole. BVAS is not the almighty alpha, and infact on the day of general election you will marvel at the trick politicians will deploy to this same BVAS.

kay1one:
The question is how will the over voting be done with bvas and PVCs?

So only people with PVC registered in a polling unit can vote. Can there be double voting? If not, then they should know the votes which appeared twice.

If I send thugs to a polling unit to over vote, the bvas should say that I've voted somewhere already and disallow me from voting.

the overvoting will not be captured by BVAS. They will jusy thumbprint ballot papers, that's all.

Is that not stupid? And INEC go cancel am

Apart From issues of lack of evidential value, See Bias, See personality Attack by the tribunal chairman, see sentiment.

The Judgement Will be set Aside by the Appeal court of justice

Workch:
Since the names of voters are not captured on ballot papers to be able to cross check with the BVAS register on whom they voted for. How did they know which party overvoted.

For example:
APC can still overvote without winning. It's common sense

Total accredited voters 3000
APC 150
PDP 200

Toral vote cast 350.

On what ground the tribunal you say that the overvoting must have came from PDP and APC wasn't involved?

Is this not why we should start printing allowing people to write the names on their voters card on their ballot paper before voting?

How did they know how many figures PDP added and APC did?


Adeleke legal team should be smart abeg

typical nairaland illiterate analysis.....700+ PUs....the law doesn't care whether it's apc or pdp or labour....if it is overvoting the law says cancel it.....in 2018 the law says conduct rerun.....but no more rerun

That is why we are always encouraged to read extensively. I am sure those who planned and executed the rigging did not read and understand the new electoral act, they relied on the old act which says votes cast must not exceed number of registered voters in a polling unit, rather than the new act that says vote cast must not exceed number of accredited voters in a polling unit.

IgOga:


typical nairaland illiterate analysis.....700+ PUs....the law doesn't care whether it's apc or pdp or labour....if it is overvoting the law says cancel it.....in 2018 the law says conduct rerun.....but no more rerun

good, now you are getting it.

So I can sponsor overvoting in your strongholds for you to lose?

Who's dumb now? 🤣

That's a stupid law, both you and the law are dumb

LegendHero:


Go and read the new electoral law and come back here to delete the bolded from your comment.

There will be no rerun in that unit if there is overvoting. It will be cancelled.

You people are starting to seem like law breakers. You only applaud a law when it favors you.

You have made Mama's vote, who came out under the sun to vote, become void.

I think the OP question is who caused the over voting? No doubt it can be PDP but evidence?

BVAS may just be the greatest disaster in our electoral system yet

kay1one:


You have made Mama's vote, who came out under the sun to vote, become void.

I think the OP question is who caused the over voting? No doubt it can be PDP but evidence?

The law might not be fair sometimes but the law is the law, it does not care about emotion.

When the court sacked Bayelsa Lyon because of his deputy certificate issue, is that fair to the old woman in the creeks who came out to vote her candidate under the hot sun OR is it fair to hundred of thousands of majority Bayelsans that voted Lyon?

Johnnyessence:
Apart From issues of lack of evidential value, See Bias, See personality Attack by the tribunal chairman, see sentiment.

The Judgement Will be set Aside by the Appeal court of justice

Is this for real?

dustmalik:
BVAS may just be the greatest disaster in our electoral system yet

It might but before you conclude that you have to compare and contrast with previous method.

Do you want the governor to be able to influence votes by writing numbers and declaring figures different from what people voted in polling booth OR you rather we stay with BVAS where politician can use loophole to overvote in opponent zone?

Which is better?

Let me tell you, in Nigeria, no matter the law you make, there will be loophole. The question is that, is it better than before or not?

LegendHero:


The law might not be fair sometimes but the law is the law, it does not care about emotion.

When the court sacked Bayelsa Lyon because of his deputy certificate issue, is that fair to the old woman in the creeks who came out to vote her candidate under the hot sun OR is it fair to hundred of thousands of majority Bayelsans that voted Lyon?

Person don go buy bad vice... That was his bad choice. Let thugs not use this loophole to cause trouble. Well people have to guard their votes after casting it.

Johnnyessence:
Apart From issues of lack of evidential value, See Bias, See personality Attack by the tribunal chairman, see sentiment.

The Judgement Will be set Aside by the Appeal court of justice

🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂 I don't believe this. This is unreal.

LegendHero:


Well you are right. But what I am saying is that, how many polling unit will he be able to influence if the people are truly on Obi side and ready to guard their votes?

Are you going to look on when same person voting multiple times and not raise alarm? Can he do it in let's say 200 polling unit before their cover will be blown?

You should understand Nigeria, no matter the law you do, there will be loophole. BVAS is not the almighty alpha, and infact on the day of general election you will marvel at the trick politicians will deploy to this same BVAS.

You have a point.
But in a very close election like the one we are having in 2023, sponsoring overvoting in 40 to 50 polling units of the opponents strongholds would do enough damage.
Moreover, the governors have so much money to spend and with the economy not smiling, some people would likely go for money at the expense of their will or conscience.