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Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Maximus692(m): 1:20pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: This is where wisdom comes in! JEHOVAH is the only person who can order a person to be killed because He is the CREATOR so no matter what a person believes it's not ours to judge (kill) the person. That aside then think of someone who now lift up weapons against God's servants as in those you know are worshipers of your own God! That's what Jehovah's Witnesses will never do as long as we're in our right senses! |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Padipadi: 2:49pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Paul was talking about subjects that tried to be rude to their leaders. How is this related to [Are All Appoited By God?[/b] One problem with jihadists like you is that you take a portion of the Bible that you barely understand and twist it. Go and search another Bible part that directly talked about if all leaders are from God. Moreso, you are a baby jihadist. Go and call Ayatollah Khomeini. Tell him to join Nairaland with his long dirty beards |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Padipadi: 2:52pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
Lukuluku69:I come in peace. Chose peace and not pieces. It's very vital. Wetin be the problem btw you and Maximus692? He thief your gf? |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Padipadi: 2:55pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
Maximus692:It's so tough trying to know the issue btw you and Lukuluku69. Hope no problem? |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Maximus692(m): 4:00pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
Padipadi: When I'm talking about the living God he often raise issue of his dead god even though i have warned him times without number that his Allah totally differs from my God. So anytime he comes around i do prove to him (politely) that his god is DEAD! |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Lukuluku69(m): 5:01pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
Padipadi: Me I no dey do Girlfriend jare. We go way back. I think some five years ago when he popped up on my mention with one of his numerous monikers. He was wowed about the way I handled someone a d he felt he can win me over to his Jehovah Witness Cult and I told him there and then that he need not bother that I have been talking to them since I was in Secondary School and that since I was it convinced by them while I was 18, how like he do that when I have acquired some much knowledge about the world at my present age. Then he started the subtle dig at Islam, Muslims and occasionally the Arabs. The Arabs are not my concern but Islam and Muslims are. So, I defended my Faith and try and explain grey area as much as my ability and knowledge permit. When I started to give him back what he regularly dishes out, he started forming innocent and asked not to mention him again. Then I gave him 2 conditions. 1. Once he mention Islam and Muslim in any of his responses or shuk mouth in their matter, I will mention him 2. His Cult are known for Warped Doctrines and Warped interpretations that is often not mainstream, once I see such, I will mention. You will see such between me and him. He will subtle pass abuses but give it back to him, he will start crying like an Ogbanje. Did you see where he said " Dead god"? That's the dolt trademark, give it back, na to begin cry. |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Padipadi: 5:26pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
Maximus692:Let there be peace. Respect each other's religion. Lukuluku69:I see. Let there be peace. Respect each other's religion. |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Maximus692(m): 9:37pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
Padipadi:He is a liar who always look for ways to hide from the truth but the wicked can only run there is no hiding place for the wicked! Below is the post he quoted where i didn't even mention him or his religion: Maximus692: That's the indisputable fact he couldn't bare so saying i mentioned Islam or Muhammad is just a cover up. We have both agreed not to mention each other again. So if he wants peace tell him never ever to mention me or come to criticize my post, i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't mean he has the right to come quoting me out of context, anytime he does that i will continue to prove to him that his god is DEAD! |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:33am On Mar 21, 2023 |
Lukuluku69:If you're not a shameless LIAR did i mention you, your book, your God or religion in my first post on this thread that you quoted? Lukuluku69:If you're ashamed to speak for your God how is that my own business? Coming to quote me when my religion has nothing to do with you, your book, your God or religion shows you lack respect for other people's religion. I will continue to speak about my faith whether it's OK with you or not our initial agreement is not to quote each other or speak about each other's religion again. So you coming to mention me when i'm keeping the agreement shows you're not a man of your own words! Lukuluku69:The first time i met you on this forum you were bitterly arguing, insulting, abusing and cursing those speaking against your religion. I remember you saying: "they will not let Islam rest" I told you anyone speaking about your religion abusively is not a Christian and i said you can never ever find a thread from one of Jehovah's Witnesses talking about your religion because we have a lot of messages to dish out so like Jesus of Nazareth who had no business with any other religion but that which has to do with the scriptures from his God JWs have no business speaking about your religion. Till today have you seen any JW speaking about your book, religion or god? So if you truly have respect for other people's religion as you said back then why mentioning me simply because i spoke about my own religion? There are many Churchgoers on this forum DIRECTLY speaking abusively about your god, religion, book and your prophet so if truthfully you are sincere with yourself why not go after them? My guy the truth remains that you find my God unique and you're disturbed that yours is in no way worthy of being revered like mine that's why you left all those attacking your god to come after me when i have left you, your God, your prophet, your book and your religion for you! 1 Like |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by AntiChristian: 8:48am On Mar 21, 2023 |
Padipadi: Where is your deduction from? I think the message was clear! Jesus and Paul were never involved in the politics of their time. They just subjected themselves to the authority! |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Padipadi: 9:14am On Mar 21, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Are you changing the topic to Jesus n Paul submitting to authority of their time? Is that what this topic is all about? Are we supposed to debate about that so that you can have questions to ask? |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by AntiChristian: 10:02am On Mar 21, 2023 |
Padipadi: You are the one changing the narrative of that verse to what you thought! The message is clear! |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Padipadi: 11:57am On Mar 21, 2023 |
AntiChristian:What do you think is the message. I really want to make straight forward clarity. Or just ask your question again |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Lukuluku69(m): 12:13pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Oderinde, the unintelligent one claiming intelligence, no I did not find your Jehovah unique abi no be the Jehovah I read about in the Bible? Neither do I find your Cult of a group any special. They have been knocking on my door for over 35 years now repeating the same dross but with a little twist here and there because according to your moronic drowns: Wrong Expectations! So, like the dross of a response you put up here, once you mention Islam and Muslims, I will mention you because it is my responsibility to defend islam and Muslims and shed light on grey areas befuddling bigots and ignoramus as you. Also, when you drop any of your clangers, those you can't back up from the Bible you have carried most of your adult life, I will mention you. This is a Public Forum set up to offer enlightenment by the owner, so you will see my mention but you can choose to ignore. It is in my right to point clangers out, and it is within your right to either offer a rebuttal or just shut it. So, Mr. Akinwale of the Jehovah Witness Cult, the choice is yours. |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:51pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: I have kept my part of the agreement and i will never porn nose into whatever you say with your religion it's none of my business but you can't dictate who should speak or what they're to say when they've ignored you, your book, your God, your religion and your prophet. So anytime you mention me get ready to get it hot from me because i will always prove to you that your god is DEAD. Instead of this diversion let's get to work. My God has a reason for everything He does and we His Witnesses can explain why He permitted wars in ancient times but never will he approve two opposite sides fighting when they're all His worshipers. Is your Allah as reasonable as that or it just approve whatever Muslims do even when you're going to kill your fellow Muslims? There are threads on this forum that demands your attention as in those calling your god, your book, your prophet and your religion to question if i'm the one you want to face i'm battle prepared to put you in the right place. Let's talk about Jehovah and His Witnesses in comparison with your Allah and it's worshipers people need to know which is REASONABLE and which is senseless. They're not the same! 1 Like |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Lukuluku69(m): 3:24pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: What is there to talk about a Cult? A bunch of zombified dolts parading as witnesses to a murdering god and one that will still come and kill all except the 8m of his cult? I know you are dumb, blind and the deafness part is so pronounced on you. Your Cult have been knocking on my door for 35 years. Every time repeating the same rehash dross. Over and over and over again! Ask them the simplest of question, they quote Daniel 2:44. Tell them to start from verse One, they go mute like idiats. Abegi carry your delusion comot but I see you mention Islam and Muslims or I see any of your useless warped doctrines, you will see my mention. |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by SeraphEl: 3:38pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
@original poster jesusjnr2020 Twisting the scriptures just like your father the devil. Classic satan's MO just like in the garden of Eden when he enticed Eve saying "surely, YHVH didn't say you die when you eat of this tree". I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and blame this on simple ignorance, but I'm not so sure. CONTEXT! CONTEXT!! CONTEXT!!! IS EVERYTHING. In both Hosea & Mathew, THE man-made structures of idols, teachings and doctrines are the plant that YHVH did not plant and that will be uprooted. . NOT the leaders or the people. Hosea 8:4 once again like Matt 15:13, CONTEXT IS KEY. IF you look at the whole passage, it speaks of Israel's idolatry (idols of gold, silver) as the 'plant' that YHVH did not plant. Once again, we are talking about man-made images, statues, and doctrine that they make to replace the YHVH of their forefathers. Scripture is clear YHVH is sovereign over ALL human and celestial and spiritual dominions regardless. ALL are for HIS purpose, ALL the time, NOT if or when "need be". YES, THIS INCLUDES THE ANTICHRIST HIMSELF. Scripture is replete with EXAMPLES but let me mention a few. Daniel 2:21-38, Daniel 4:17, John 19:11, 1 Peter 2:13, Romans 13:4. Matt 15:13-14 IN CONTEXT, is speaking of the teachings & commandments of man replacing YHVH's statues, laws and commands. In other words, the "plant" here is the man-made doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees, which is not "planted" by YHVH (not given by YHVH). Romans 13:1-4 plainly and clearly states: ALL leaders, governmental, secular, ARE ordained by YHVH. HE allows all good, bad, and evil leaders for HIS own purpose. You cannot wiggle away from this statement by twisting or any other fanciful gymnastics. In other words, you are calling Apostle Paul & Peter false prophets, and we should disregard their admonitions in Romans 13: 1-4, 1 Peter 2:13? You have a lot of nerve to make this absolute false and unbiblical statement. It is clear that you absolutely are biblical illiterate. There are numerous biblical examples and direct statements that GOD directly or indirectly appoints and allows ALL human leaders secular or otherwise. For starters, the scripture is clear of YHVH's absolute power and sovereignty over affairs of both man and spirits, this includes ALL human agents, leaders and ALL spiritual agents and powers. THEY ALL DO HIS BIDDING, PURPOSE, ALL THE TIME. QED. |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:52pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: Ọ̀gbẹ́ni oya talk! JEHOVAH permitted wars between His worshipers and unbelievers but never between His worshipers that's why any of His worshipers in ancient times must consult Him before going to war because they must not kill any worshiper of JEHOVAH. Is your Allah as reasonable as this God? Your own Allah just dey watch it's worshipers killing themselves like animals no guidelines as to wars you can kill your fellow Muslim for any reason even if you both worship in the same mosque, travel to Mecca and kissed the black stone together your god or devotion is useless in the face of politics and racism. Oya talk let's reason together regarding the two since you always claim they're the same! |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Lukuluku69(m): 4:07pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: In the Wild, many animals have a defence mechanism to escape being eating by others, for some it is camouflage, for some, it is attack and some defence. In your zeal to remain ignorant and deluded, you have chosen windy and senseless tirades just to mask the stuff you are made of or rather what you have been programmed with. I don't blame you, you don't want to lose your Internet Stipend, so you must say something and type something regardless of how meaningless they are. Jehovah doesn't allow his worshippers to fight within themselves abi? Keep living in your delusion. You are entitled to it. But when you carry same ignorant mind and from a position of ignorance mention Islam and Muslims and also drop your Cult's clanger, if I see it, I will mention it. So, run along now Mr. Akinwale |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:28pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: Shameless LIAR! Why not go into quoting the Bible as you think you know what happened in ancient times to God's people? Your Allah is just a deceit it has nothing to do with my God Jehovah that's why Arabs used to quote the Bible out of context yet brainwashed mumu like you will swallow their lies hook line and sinker. I will continue to speak about my own God and as i've agreed with you i don't have any thing to do with you, your god, your prophet, your book or your prophet. I have lot's of Good News to share with my audience about the kingdom of our God under Christ Jesus. So whenever you see my post stay clear off my mention if you don't want me to dismantle the useless god and it's book that you're carrying up and down which has no power even to settle disparities among you it's worshipers. Which useless god is yours that can't even settle the differences among it's worshipers? What exactly is the usefulness of your god when it can't make LOVE reign among it's worshipers? So you just have to continue hitting your head on the ground for nothing yet you feel right thinking individuals should come and join you simply because Arabs lied to you that it's the same God of the Bible shey? Ọmọ no be the same God. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will never ever approve WAR between His worshipers unlike your useless Allah that can't do anything while you Muslims slaughter one another for the slightest thing. If you're ready for more hot morsels quote me again you senseless worshiper of a useless god. Churchgoers are all over the forum talking about your useless god, prophet, book and religion you're scared to go and discuss with them but me simply because i'm one of peace loving worshipers you feel you can just come quoting me with your dishonest motives. My God is not and can never be the same as your Allah, i can explain as in bear witness before anybody that my God always does what is right! 1 Like
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Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Lukuluku69(m): 4:38pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Arindin, you want me to show you an old posts where you attest to my knowledge of the Bible? Do you want to see it? Like I said, on those two points I stand? 1. Mention Islam and Muslim 2. Clangers from you or your Cult. Till then, you can roam free like a YabaLeft Escapee |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Lukuluku69(m): 5:15pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Sir Werey the Dismantler, do you remember these
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Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:17pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: Brainwashed musulumi! How do i mention again? Your god, book, religion, prophet are useless! Prove all these things aren't useless nah if you can, a true God should be able to set standards among His worshipers so that there will be orderliness. Yours is so useless, hopeless and worthless to the extent that you people often pray to the same God read the same book and Revere the same prophet yet there's nothing like orderliness among you any opportunity to slaughter one another it's a go, your Allah, prophet, book and religion doesn't matter anymore. Ọ̀dẹ̀, Òpònú, Olódo. I was a soldier fighting with zeal before JWs came to preach their God to me that's what opened my eyes to see that your god is worthless. If it is the real God at least it should be able to settle differences between it's own worshipers. What is the essence of your God if a Muslim from any other part of the world can just pick up weapons to slaughter you due to the order from a human like yourself? Ọmọ i will continue to preach about my own God it's yours that's worthless that's why you must run after me each time you notice how powerful my God is using His word to set matters straight in the midst of millions from different races throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:2-4 1 Like |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Lukuluku69(m): 5:19pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Deluded Witness, do you remember these below?
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Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:27pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: We have passed that stage and the stage we are now is no more mention of one another, go your way and i go my way. Agreement: No more mention of you, your book, your god, your prophet or your religion. And i have kept that i even told you that never will you find a JW open a thread about your religion, book, god or prophet. So if you're a man of integrity stop quoting me after all i've kept my promise but thinking you can dictate what i should say about my own God or religion that's no part of our agreement after all your religion also teaches lots of things that sounds stupid to many that's why they're opening numerous threads so why must you leave all those only to come quoting me simply because my religion doesn't sound OK to you when i have stayed clear off yours? 2 Likes |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:37pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
@Lukuluku69 Below is a thread where the OP specifically mentioned you, your book, your God, your religion and your prophet. Leaving this and running after me shows you're not been sincere with your stupid mention. If the below OP has done the same as i did will you still run after him simply because he said what doesn't go down well with your beliefs? Guy just dey your dey make i dey my dey! TenQ: 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Lukuluku69(m): 5:53pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Lol You don't want to talk about Jehovah and Allah again? Or your Bible again after seeing your own attestations? Oponu sombori forming Intelligence
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Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:55pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: My God Jehovah totally differs from your Allah so there's nothing to discuss with you just stay off my mention that's our agreement. If you feel like chatting with anyone who will say what you want about your god go to Muslim section and if you want to argue with those who have time to criticize your god they are many on this forum. There's no friendship between my own God and yours so get off my mention i'm not interested in anything having to do with you, your god, your prophet, your book or your religion. One thing i noticed about you is how you wish to relate with me which is IMPOSSIBLE prove that's a lie by staying away from me just as i've done with you, your god, your prophet, your book and your religion. Light and darkness can't relate! |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Lukuluku69(m): 8:08pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Rehash tripe from a programmed zombified bot I don't relate with you, I educate you. You were once wowed. Dumbo do you remember these posts?
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Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:20pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: OK you're welcome! Tell me what Allah and all your Imams thinks when Muslims are killing Muslims due to politics and racism? What is the practical benefit of your faith when a fellow Muslim don't feel anything for you due to difference in politics and race yet you're both compelled to worship the same black stone in Mecca? I'm ready to be EDUCATED!
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Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by Lukuluku69(m): 8:28pm On Mar 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: If you want to know what Allah thoughts on any issue, read the Quran. As for the Imams, their opinions are theirs alone. If I support Man City and another supports Arsenal, how that one take concern Allah? It is the same for Politics. One want Tinubu and another want Atiku, what is Allah's business with that? That said this is just subjective as such choose freely but don't overstep the boundaries of your Religion in Worldly matters. |
Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:44am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: Guy you're worshiping a dead god! Now let me EDUCATE you. I kept challenging anyone on this forum speaking abusively of any RELIGION be it the churches of Christendom or Islam that there's nothing wrong with these religions except the fact that they're into politics. Remove politics from Islam and see clearly, if it's just about worshiping your god anything you say about your god is no man's business but when you insist one setting standards for others in the name of politics that's what leads to trouble here and there. This is what my own God has erased in the hearts of millions of His Witnesses globally and we can all worship together as brothers and sisters under one umbrella. You mentioned Atiku and Tinubu then football clubs forgetting that just because of their political ambitions many have died, many are dying presently and many will still die. Both in your religion and others for supporting either sides. Back to your question: what is the concern of your god? This would have been sweet in your mouth if you people don't agitate when a Muslim is killed by none Muslims. It's stupidity in your god that it's worshipers can kill one another for the ambition of their fellow believer yet when one is killed elsewhere you people start agitating. Why not agitate towards your stupid god that failed to make love reign in your midst? That's why i can boldly, confidently and convincingly tell you that your god is DEAD! |
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