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Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Georgejeez: 2:46pm On Apr 07, 2023
panpan:
No person should bother to study medicine or dentistry in Nigeria with such a bill being contemplated.
The bill should be rejected from start to finish.
The bill is discriminatory against newly qualified doctors and dentists.
The bill encourages slavery in the employment of doctors and dentists.
Then go to UK,US and Saudi to study Medicine and leave the space for those who are ready to work for the Country , Simple

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Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Lasien: 2:54pm On Apr 07, 2023
tamdun:
They should go and sch in UK/US then,majority of the medical students can't afford to sch abroad,fed govt is subsidising education for them for the betterment of NIG citizens not UK/US/Saudi

CAN WE ALSO HAVE A BILL THAT STOPS ALL SERVING POLITICIANS FROM GOING ABROAD FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT?
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by seunayantokun(m): 3:02pm On Apr 07, 2023
They destroyed Nigeria and are stealing it dry, but want health workers to stay back and work in an environment where life is... so devilish lawmakers.
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Fearyourcreator: 3:03pm On Apr 07, 2023
tamdun:
They should go and sch in UK/US then,majority of the medical students can't afford to sch abroad,fed govt is subsidising education for them for the betterment of NIG citizens not UK/US/Saudi
Simple
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by abbey621(m): 3:07pm On Apr 07, 2023
Simply pay doctors more, subsidize equipment costs, provide adequate funding for medical research and watch the brain drain quickly erode. Why do we love doing things backwards in this country?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the biggest enemies of Nigeria are the crooks that make up the senate and House of Reps., these f*ckers have proposed and written laws that keeps us stuck in the stone age......SMH!
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by lulufaj(m): 3:09pm On Apr 07, 2023
Georgejeez:

One by one , we will catch them but for now we dealing with Doctors


Or yea, after the 5 years they won’t leave yea? What about correcting why they’re leaving? The people passing the laws, do they get their healthcare in Nigeria? If only the average people of Nigeria were reasonable but they’re clearly not.

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Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:15pm On Apr 07, 2023
lulufaj:



Or yea, after the 5 years they won’t leave yea? What about correcting why they’re leaving? The people passing the laws, do they get their healthcare in Nigeria? If only the average people of Nigeria were reasonable but they’re clearly not.

Don't worry

The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will happen, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:15pm On Apr 07, 2023
abbey621:
Simply pay doctors more, subsidize equipment costs, provide adequate funding for medical research and watch the brain drain quickly erode. Why do we love doing things backwards in this country?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the biggest enemies of Nigeria are the crooks that make up the senate and House of Reps., these f*ckers have proposed and written laws that keeps us stuck in the stone age......SMH!

Don't worry


The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will happen, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:16pm On Apr 07, 2023
tamdun:
They should go and sch in UK/US then,majority of the medical students can't afford to sch abroad,fed govt is subsidising education for them for the betterment of NIG citizens not UK/US/Saudi


The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will happen, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy



You can only continue to wail uncontrollably at the events that are about to unfold
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:17pm On Apr 07, 2023
Is04970:
There are arguments for and against the bill but I'll tilt towards the Reps.
If you desire to practice in UK or US as a medical practitioner why not school there and pay huge fees for your training?
Why get your education in Nigeria with taxpayers money and end up not being useful for Nigeria?
The hospitals in Nigeria aren't equipped ;Yes. So also the airports, seaports, the roads are bad etc but if the country manages to train you to become a doctor it behoves on you to manage to practice there.

PS the same law should be applied to Agricultural Economists, Land Surveyors etc the day we start having shortage of those professionals in Nigeria.


The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will happen, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:17pm On Apr 07, 2023
seunayantokun:
They destroyed Nigeria and are stealing it dry, but want health workers to stay back and work in an environment where life is... so devilish lawmakers.

Don't worry

The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will happen, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by yemi1504: 3:18pm On Apr 07, 2023
DesChyko:
The Nigerian Medical Students' Association @NiMSA_Nigeria strongly opposes the recently proposed bill to mandate Nigerian-trained medical or dental practitioners to practice in Nigeria for a minimum of five years before being granted a full license to practice.

This bill, sponsored by Rep. Ganiyu Abiodun Johnson is unpatriotic, ill-timed and a breach of the fundamental human right of doctors as enshrined in the 1999 constitution of Nigeria as amended.

This bill is aimed at strangulating the medical profession and making mockery of her autonomy.

The reason given by Rep. Johnson for sponsoring this bill will end up achieving the direct opposite as the bill seeks to enslave Nigerian trained doctors and paralyze the health care system. The search for greener pastures abroad can be reduced by making our land and pasture green, properly equipping our hospitals, better treatment for doctors and the brain drain will be adequately controlled. Rep. Johnson at this point should be steering conversations on medical tourism and not doctor slavery.

We firmly believe that this bill is not the solution to the problem of brain drain, and we stand against it in its entirety in the strongest possible terms.

The intention behind the sponsorship of this bill does not take into consideration the root causes of brain drain in Nigeria. The issue of brain drain is multifaceted and requires a more comprehensive approach to tackle it.

Instead of trying to forcefully take doctors as slaves, the lawmakers should be focusing on creating an enabling environment that encourages doctors to stay and work in Nigeria. The lack of infrastructure, inadequate and inappropriate remuneration, and poor working conditions are some of the major factors driving medical professionals away from Nigeria. These issues need to be addressed if we want to attract and retain our healthcare professionals; make our land green.

We also believe that the bill is a violation of the fundamental human rights of medical professionals and should not see the light of the day. The government has no right to force doctors to work in a particular location against their will- it is an affront to their autonomy and choice. We also unequivocally state that this bill will discourage students from pursuing medical education in Nigeria, which will further exacerbate the problem of the shortage of healthcare professionals.

A better way to bring up the issue of being trained with “tax payer subsidies” would be to have it optional, the option of paying for medical education at the real cost value, the option of obtaining student loans and also the option of going for the subsidized medical education with the caveat of staying behind for a certain number of years to “pay back”. Besides, not all Doctors in the country are trained on subsidy; one thing the bill failed to capture. Doctors need to have a choice, even before they start their training so they can make better informed decisions.

Additionally, we strongly believe that the bill is arbitrary in nature and totally unconstitutional- it deprives the Nigerian-trained medical and dental practitioners of their fundamental right to freedom of movement by arbitrarily imposing restrictions on their movements against the provision of Section 41 the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

In conclusion, @NiMSA_Nigeria vehemently opposes this bill in part and in one whole. We call on the sponsor of the bill to withdraw it with immediate effect and seek better ways of finding a lasting solution to the problem of brain drain by consultative collaboration with relevant stakeholders in the health sector coupled with the government's willingness to address the root causes and underlying issues that drive healthcare professionals away from Nigeria.

The Nigerian medical students’ association, is eager for a better health system hence, our willingness to work with the government, as we have always done, to find lasting solutions to the issues plaguing the healthcare system.

The health sector is essential to the growth and development of our nation, and we must take steps to ensure that our healthcare professionals stay and contribute to the growth of our country.

We say *NO* to this bill,
Rather, make our land and pasture green.

Ejim Egba,
NiMSA President

https://twitter.com/NiMSA_Nigeria/status/1644103703643791360?t=0RcYbEkErW8YYUIVFZktgQ&s=19

Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/7643700/bill-prevent-medical-doctors-getting

The bill is dead on arrival if it becomes law! The Supreme Court will definitely quash it as it infringes on the fundamental human right of freedom of movement enshrined in the constitution.
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by blowjohn(m): 3:18pm On Apr 07, 2023
Is04970:
There are arguments for and against the bill but I'll tilt towards the Reps.
If you desire to practice in UK or US as a medical practitioner why not school there and pay huge fees for your training?
Why get your education in Nigeria with taxpayers money and end up not being useful for Nigeria?
The hospitals in Nigeria aren't equipped ;Yes. So also the airports, seaports, the roads are bad etc but if the country manages to train you to become a doctor it behoves on you to manage to practice there.


PS the same law should be applied to Agricultural Economists, Land Surveyors etc the day we start having shortage of those professionals in Nigeria.


Let them make working in Nigeria better before they bring up such bill.

Why Shud I earn a meagre sum and be doing the work if 10 people?
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by yemi1504: 3:20pm On Apr 07, 2023
oluseyiforjesus:
The person dat sponsor dat bill his brain 🧠🧠 should be drained into river Nigeria

You can say that again! He has no knowledge whatsoever about the issues (these are the kind of people Nigerian voters vote into power SMH)! All he knows are that his allowances are threatened if the government ever improves their plight and came with a not-so-smart solution anyways grin cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by lulufaj(m): 3:22pm On Apr 07, 2023
Thegamingorca:


Don't worry

The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will happen, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy


I am a senior doctor in the U.K. myself and I know there are several routes to leave even with provisional licence. They can write exams and apply for foundation training. The government is aware of how uninformed our people are and like to keep them occupied with things like this. It is the one jubilating that is making me laugh the most.
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by yemi1504: 3:24pm On Apr 07, 2023
shakol91:
This set of legislators under the current leadership of rubberstamp senate president cum House of rep leader are the most useless in the history of this country. Both are very clueless and backward in thinking.

Na so quack go full everywhere. I just pray they and their family should fall victim of the aftermath of their useless bill

This kind of bill was really unexpected from the quarters it came from. We usually expect such draconian anti-people policy bills from certain quarters.
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Yong4ever: 3:24pm On Apr 07, 2023
tamdun:
They should go and sch in UK/US then,majority of the medical students can't afford to sch abroad,fed govt is subsidising education for them for the betterment of NIG citizens not UK/US/Saudi
. FG have been treating nigerian doctors better than others in the health care system as if they are the only one made up of the system, sponsored all of their training till they become consultant, if FG is now asking you to serve your nation for a while I don't think that's too much to ask for, in a saner clime other health care professionals matter not only doctors as it is in Nigeria, therefore I support FG on this one.
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by yemi1504: 3:28pm On Apr 07, 2023
TheOldGods:
Nigeria that don't have Hospitals to treat kidney infection which is suddenly pandemic, no equipment that even pregnant women still die in hospitals. Instead of them to pass a bill to reform the health sector they do the opposite, they would rather reform their large salaries and allowances. Nigeria and APC government is a joke. So instead to treat the root cause of the problems, they want to force medical doctors five years. Wait is it the same medical doctors that can't find jobs in Nigeria or is there something new going on? The same doctor's that are paid peanut even when they rush out midnight for emergencies. I like what is happening, when we told they to remove APC they claimed LP is a tribe party. By the time APC finishes with you people, you will understand it's not about tribes again, but vote someone who has your interest at hand grin grin grin

You can say that again! I said the same thing in my comments on this thread about them being threatened about their fat allowances which is why they came up with band-aid solutions for deep cuts!
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by yemi1504: 3:29pm On Apr 07, 2023
Jokerman:
Ganiyu Abiodun Johnson

Thank God thr clown was voted out of the house of rep this election.

They never do anything sensible in the house. Only God knows people who vote these clowns into power

The same useless party as usual. Always, bringing the worst of people into governance. I don't blame them, I blame the people always voting them.
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by lexy2014: 3:29pm On Apr 07, 2023
tamdun:
They should go and sch in UK/US then,majority of the medical students can't afford to sch abroad,fed govt is subsidising education for them for the betterment of NIG citizens not UK/US/Saudi

If what you say is true, why can't the president of the country, the president elect and the elite patronise them?
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:30pm On Apr 07, 2023
Dcaliphate:
Good one by NIMSA
....
All my life, i never imagined we had such a vast army of supporters of evil in Nigeria until now.
I'm talking about everyone and anyone who is in support of the just concluded sham called the 2023 general elections that produced Tinubu. SHAME ON YOU!! No wise man drinks poison because it was served in his tribal cup.

Just know that the evil you support today will bite you hard later in the future, if not you, your children.

Don't worry


The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will be happening, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by yemi1504: 3:30pm On Apr 07, 2023
AzizG550:
Don’t mind the demonic party and demonic government of APC. Always looking for ways to suffer it’s citizens the more. You don’t want to improve the health sector and you don’t want doctors to leave the country . Are you not a demon?

Abi o grin cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:31pm On Apr 07, 2023
BOLATINUBU01:
UK should start giving scholarship to our medical students, instead of taking our doctors


The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will be happening, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:31pm On Apr 07, 2023
tomzyELNINO:
CAN WE ALSO HAVE A BILL THAT STOPS POLITICIANS FROM GOING ABROAD FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT?

The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will be happening, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by lexy2014: 3:31pm On Apr 07, 2023
Yong4ever:
. FG have been treating nigerian doctors better than others in the health care system as if they are the only one made up of the system, sponsored all of their training till they become consultant, if FG is now asking you to serve your nation for a while I don't think that's too much to ask for, in a saner clime other health care professionals matter not only doctors as it is in Nigeria, therefore I support FG on this one.

Why then does buhari and Tinubu not patronize nigerian hospitals?
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:32pm On Apr 07, 2023
shakol91:
This set of legislators under the current leadership of rubberstamp senate president cum House of rep leader are the most useless in the history of this country. Both are very clueless and backward in thinking.

Na so quack go full everywhere. I just pray they and their family should fall victim of the aftermath of their useless bill
The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will be happening, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:32pm On Apr 07, 2023
Yong4ever:
. FG have been treating nigerian doctors better than others in the health care system as if they are the only one made up of the system, sponsored all of their training till they become consultant, if FG is now asking you to serve your nation for a while I don't think that's too much to ask for, in a saner clime other health care professionals matter not only doctors as it is in Nigeria, therefore I support FG on this one.


The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will be happening, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:33pm On Apr 07, 2023
TheOldGods:
Nigeria that don't have Hospitals to treat kidney infection which is suddenly pandemic, no equipment that even pregnant women still die in hospitals. Instead of them to pass a bill to reform the health sector they do the opposite, they would rather reform their large salaries and allowances. Nigeria and APC government is a joke. So instead to treat the root cause of the problems, they want to force medical doctors five years. Wait is it the same medical doctors that can't find jobs in Nigeria or is there something new going on? The same doctor's that are paid peanut even when they rush out midnight for emergencies. I like what is happening, when we told they to remove APC they claimed LP is a tribe party. By the time APC finishes with you people, you will understand it's not about tribes again, but vote someone who has your interest at hand grin grin grin
The bill is dead on arrival

There is a temporary provisional license with which you use to practice for 2yrs and do your housemanship before it expires after graduation. That license Is just to show ppl that you have the right to touch patients for a time period after graduation during which you must have complete your housemanship. Maybe that license will now be increased to 5yrs due to the bill but that will now make the stress to hurriedly look for housemanship slots easy, and make the graduates focus on getting UK qualifications first.. It is that graduation letter with IELTS and not the provisional license(or the permanent license gotten after housemanship), that is needed to be submitted to examining body in the UK to start the process of writing their exams. And once you pass the exams you must register under GMC within 2yrs with evidence of housemanship. The graduation certificate, your one year housemanship evidence(which you can now do after passing plab2), grin your IELTS and the pass of the two exams that are the Koko requirement to prove that indeed you are a doctor that can practice in UK unsupervised. grin grin grin grin

You only need evidence of your Naija full license or provisional license when you are applying for visa.

Now this is what will be happening, Alot of Nigerian doctors will make it a duty and goal to leave before that 5yrs expiration just to show the legislators that they can keep their permanent license cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by lexy2014: 3:34pm On Apr 07, 2023
BOLATINUBU01:
UK should start giving scholarship to our medical students, instead of taking our doctors

Why didn't bola Tinubu and buhari patronise the doctors you say UK is taking?

When did UK take anyone?
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by Thegamingorca(m): 3:35pm On Apr 07, 2023
lulufaj:



I am a senior doctor in the U.K. myself and I know there are several routes to leave even with provisional licence. They can write exams and apply for foundation training. The government is aware of how uninformed our people are and like to keep them occupied with things like this. It is the one jubilating that is making me laugh the most.

Lol no mind them
Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by obi58: 3:39pm On Apr 07, 2023
Is04970:
There are arguments for and against the bill but I'll tilt towards the Reps.
If you desire to practice in UK or US as a medical practitioner why not school there and pay huge fees for your training?
Why get your education in Nigeria with taxpayers money and end up not being useful for Nigeria?
The hospitals in Nigeria aren't equipped ;Yes. So also the airports, seaports, the roads are bad etc but if the country manages to train you to become a doctor it behoves on you to manage to practice there.

PS:
The same law should be applied to Agricultural Economists, Land Surveyors etc the day we start having shortage of those professionals in Nigeria.

You are insane.

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Re: NIMSA Opposes The Brain Drain Bill (Official Statement) by obi58: 3:40pm On Apr 07, 2023
bitbillionaire:
Who are these idiots condemning the bill that is for Nigeria's best interest.

Over 90% of their points make no sense

You have no sense otherwise you would be asking why government officials who are advocating for the bill choose to treat themselves abroad.

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