Realistically, the so called move to remove subsidy is to enable politician pull out the little benefits that average nigerians are getting from government.

Now nigerians are empty & at the foot of political terror and stampede.

Tinubu and his his co constripties have no plan to make this nation better but to plunge into chaos and deep hunger rollercoaster. Price of commodity & hunger will be on rise againhttps://youtube.com/live/5Z5QSf2v-9o?feature=share

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ojmaroni247:
true

Fact, I told some people that Nigerians are docile and lacks critical thinking.

Subsidy removal is a big crime against Nigerians. Why not rehabilitate our refineries and then remove the subsidy so that we can get the fuel cheaper? Nigerians are starving, buying fuel for 540 so that the subsidy cabals will continue to merry.

Deaths await everyone.

mrcoolautofix:
Realistically, the so called move to remove subsidy is to enable politician pull out the little benefits that average nigerians are getting from government.

Now nigerians are empty & at the foot of political terror and stampede.

Tinubu and his his co constripties have no plan to make this nation better but to plunge into chaos and deep hunger rollercoaster. Price of commodity & hunger will be on rise againhttps://youtube.com/live/5Z5QSf2v-9o?feature=share

Go and put back Subsidy in your father’s house

mrcoolautofix:
Realistically, the so called move to remove subsidy is to enable politician pull out the little benefits that average nigerians are getting from government.

Now nigerians are empty & at the foot of political terror and stampede.

Tinubu and his his co constripties have no plan to make this nation better but to plunge into chaos and deep hunger rollercoaster. Price of commodity & hunger will be on rise againhttps://youtube.com/live/5Z5QSf2v-9o?feature=share

Subsidy removal is a done deal. Move on buddy.

chi4ik4:
Fact, I told some people that Nigerians are docile and lacks critical thinking.

Subsidy removal is a big crime against Nigerians. Why not rehabilitate our refineries and then remove the subsidy so that we can get the fuel cheaper? Nigerians are starving, buying fuel for 540 so that the subsidy cabals will continue to merry.

Deaths await everyone.

Sorry but you are the one who lacks the ability to think critically. The focus on petrol is banal and myopic. We have many sectors we must focus on investing in optimally , like transport and power supply, to lessen our dependency on PMS consumption so it can become a valuable export and economic asset for Nigeria for the first time in ages .


Progressive Countries are today talking about aggressively meeting energy transition plan, essentially a move away from reliance on fossil fuel nearing depletion.

Yet you,mocking others for lacking the ability to think critically, talk ignorantly about rehabilitating refineries, a thoroughly discredited consideration in the annals of Nigeria's political and administrative leadership, and you think you are intelligent or up to speed with critical considerations?

Smart Nigerians, able to think critically, will appreciate that we want corrupt government hands, except in a regulatory capacity, off our downstream sector totally.

The aim, for Nigeria, should be to gain a very efficient downstream oil and gas sector, via full deregulation, in the short to medium term. I.e 4 to 12 year period.

We then move aggressively towards developing several sectors of socio-economic activities that will see majority of our locally refined PMS for exported sale to gain Nigeria valuable forex, a greater manufacturing sector, considerable employment for many etc.

Think how much less PMS we would need if we even get a rail travel system as efficient as that of South Africa talk less of those in developed European nations.

The private sector, driven by the need to gain profit and ROI, is the only assurance we can gain a modern, efficient and productive oil and gas sector onwards to releasing the full economic and financial potentials of our crude endowment.

Anyone, like you, focusing on PMS as pivotally important to Nigeria's long term economic outlook is simply illiterate per where we need to go socio-economically. It is doubtful most western nations of the world, the biggest consumers of PMS, would not have met their energy transition plan at least 60-70% in the next 40 years.

We must plan for that. The effort should be to see us join them as modern and energy-efficient nation , rather than view ourselves simplistically as their crude or PMS supplier.That effort must begin now so we do not fall further behind than we undesirable are today.

As a parting thought, if you have ever experienced even moderately developed African nations first hand do you see their citizens carrying kegs up and down to buy petrol?

Rise above tribalism, bias and a parochial outlook to educate yourself better so you can make fitting and progressive demands of Government instead of speaking in support of Nigeria remaining literally 100 years behind others in our own unique dark ages

Dsalvo:


Sorry but you are the one who lacks the ability to think critically. The focus on petrol is banal and myopic. We have many sectors we must focus on investing in optimally , like transport and power supply, to lessen our dependency on PMS consumption so it can become a valuable export and economic asset for Nigeria for the first time in ages .


Progressive Countries are today talking about aggressively meeting energy transition plan, essentially a move away from reliance on fossil fuel nearing depletion.

Yet you,mocking others for lacking the ability to think critically, talk ignorantly about rehabilitating refineries, a thoroughly discredited consideration in the annals of Nigeria's political and administrative leadership, and you think you are intelligent or up to speed with critical considerations?

Smart Nigerians, able to think critically, will appreciate that we want corrupt government hands, except in a regulatory capacity, off our downstream sector totally.

The aim, for Nigeria, should be to gain a very efficient downstream oil and gas sector, via full deregulation, in the short to medium term. I.e 4 to 12 year period.

We then move aggressively towards developing several sectors of socio-economic activities that will see majority of our locally refined PMS for exported sale to gain Nigeria valuable forex, a greater manufacturing sector, considerable employment for many etc.

Think how much less PMS we would need if we even get a rail travel system as efficient as that of South Africa talk less of those in developed European nations.

The private sector, driven by the need to gain profit and ROI, is the only assurance we can gain a modern, efficient and productive oil and gas sector onwards to releasing the full economic and financial potentials of our crude endowment.

Anyone, like you, focusing on PMS as pivotally important to Nigeria's long term economic outlook is simply illiterate per where we need to go socio-economically. It is doubtful most western nations of the world, the biggest consumers of PMS, would not have met their energy transition plan at least 60-70% in the next 40 years.

We must plan for that. The effort should be to see us join them as modern and energy-efficient nation , rather than view ourselves simplistically as their crude or PMS supplier.That effort must begin now so we do not fall further behind than we undesirable are today.

As a parting thought, if you have ever experienced even moderately developed African nations first hand do you see their citizens carrying kegs up and down to buy petrol?

Rise above tribalism, bias and a parochial outlook to educate yourself better so you can make fitting and progressive demands of Government instead of speaking in support of Nigeria remaining literally 100 years behind others in our own unique dark ages

But this sense no enter your head during Jonathan

You guys ganged against him

Make ona continue with ona lame politics

PussyKing:


But this sense no enter your head during Jonathan

You guys ganged against him

Make ona continue with ona lame politics

Whatever. It is always about individuals for most Nigerians and never enduring and progressive ideas. Jonathan was a clueless man placed far above his station and totally at the mercy of grand scale corruption.

Deny it all you want, perhaps because you are clannishly devoted to GEJ through ethnic jingoism, but millions of proof existed to show Jonathan was completely complicit in the monumental corruption bedevilling Nigeria under his watch to the extent the opposition was justified insisting him and his crew would loot whatever savings accrued from fuel subsidy removal saving.

If you say Buhari and his APC government went on to be equally tainted by corruption then I can agree with that but stop the idiocy of trying to rebrand GEJ as some kind of saint or even a minimally effective President.

As corruption-friendly and overly biased as Buhari was, he still achieved a lot GEJ cannot claim to have matched even 2%. Jonathan simply did nothing tangible with Nigeria's money whereas Buhari did. Fact. You people should stop your dishonest revisionism and fraudulent nostalgia based on nothing other than good old tribalism.

Demand regionalism uncompromisingly and then vote GEJ your regional premier if You love and believe in him that much but stop disturbing us with your dubious representation of his history as president. We all lived through his reign so stop the idiocy.

Dsalvo:


Subsidy removal is a done deal. Move on buddy.

How did nnpc arrive at #500 per litre ? You are being mislead. At most#350 per litre with removal of subsidy.

Dsalvo:


Sorry but you are the one who lacks the ability to think critically. The focus on petrol is banal and myopic. We have many sectors we must focus on investing in optimally , like transport and power supply, to lessen our dependency on PMS consumption so it can become a valuable export and economic asset for Nigeria for the first time in ages .


Progressive Countries are today talking about aggressively meeting energy transition plan, essentially a move away from reliance on fossil fuel nearing depletion.

Yet you,mocking others for lacking the ability to think critically, talk ignorantly about rehabilitating refineries, a thoroughly discredited consideration in the annals of Nigeria's political and administrative leadership, and you think you are intelligent or up to speed with critical considerations?

Smart Nigerians, able to think critically, will appreciate that we want corrupt government hands, except in a regulatory capacity, off our downstream sector totally.

The aim, for Nigeria, should be to gain a very efficient downstream oil and gas sector, via full deregulation, in the short to medium term. I.e 4 to 12 year period.

We then move aggressively towards developing several sectors of socio-economic activities that will see majority of our locally refined PMS for exported sale to gain Nigeria valuable forex, a greater manufacturing sector, considerable employment for many etc.

Think how much less PMS we would need if we even get a rail travel system as efficient as that of South Africa talk less of those in developed European nations.

The private sector, driven by the need to gain profit and ROI, is the only assurance we can gain a modern, efficient and productive oil and gas sector onwards to releasing the full economic and financial potentials of our crude endowment.

Anyone, like you, focusing on PMS as pivotally important to Nigeria's long term economic outlook is simply illiterate per where we need to go socio-economically. It is doubtful most western nations of the world, the biggest consumers of PMS, would not have met their energy transition plan at least 60-70% in the next 40 years.

We must plan for that. The effort should be to see us join them as modern and energy-efficient nation , rather than view ourselves simplistically as their crude or PMS supplier.That effort must begin now so we do not fall further behind than we undesirable are today.

As a parting thought, if you have ever experienced even moderately developed African nations first hand do you see their citizens carrying kegs up and down to buy petrol?

Rise above tribalism, bias and a parochial outlook to educate yourself better so you can make fitting and progressive demands of Government instead of speaking in support of Nigeria remaining literally 100 years behind others in our own unique dark ages

But most developed countries like USA, UK, France, China, Canada have heavily subsidized public transportation systems??
What does Naija subsidized outside PMS?? None

Dsalvo:


Sorry but you are the one who lacks the ability to think critically. The focus on petrol is banal and myopic. We have many sectors we must focus on investing in optimally , like transport and power supply, to lessen our dependency on PMS consumption so it can become a valuable export and economic asset for Nigeria for the first time in ages .


Progressive Countries are today talking about aggressively meeting energy transition plan, essentially a move away from reliance on fossil fuel nearing depletion.

Yet you,mocking others for lacking the ability to think critically, talk ignorantly about rehabilitating refineries, a thoroughly discredited consideration in the annals of Nigeria's political and administrative leadership, and you think you are intelligent or up to speed with critical considerations?

Smart Nigerians, able to think critically, will appreciate that we want corrupt government hands, except in a regulatory capacity, off our downstream sector totally.

The aim, for Nigeria, should be to gain a very efficient downstream oil and gas sector, via full deregulation, in the short to medium term. I.e 4 to 12 year period.

We then move aggressively towards developing several sectors of socio-economic activities that will see majority of our locally refined PMS for exported sale to gain Nigeria valuable forex, a greater manufacturing sector, considerable employment for many etc.

Think how much less PMS we would need if we even get a rail travel system as efficient as that of South Africa talk less of those in developed European nations.

The private sector, driven by the need to gain profit and ROI, is the only assurance we can gain a modern, efficient and productive oil and gas sector onwards to releasing the full economic and financial potentials of our crude endowment.

Anyone, like you, focusing on PMS as pivotally important to Nigeria's long term economic outlook is simply illiterate per where we need to go socio-economically. It is doubtful most western nations of the world, the biggest consumers of PMS, would not have met their energy transition plan at least 60-70% in the next 40 years.

We must plan for that. The effort should be to see us join them as modern and energy-efficient nation , rather than view ourselves simplistically as their crude or PMS supplier.That effort must begin now so we do not fall further behind than we undesirable are today.

As a parting thought, if you have ever experienced even moderately developed African nations first hand do you see their citizens carrying kegs up and down to buy petrol?

Rise above tribalism, bias and a parochial outlook to educate yourself better so you can make fitting and progressive demands of Government instead of speaking in support of Nigeria remaining literally 100 years behind others in our own unique dark ages

The damnn economy practically runs on petrol, especially in the absence of adequate electricity,
Most of you don't understand how close you are to being unemployed!
Subsidy is and has always been a scam, you just parrot what the scammers say, but non can tell what the landing cost of petrol is nor the terms of transfer of crude oil to petrol,

StaffofOrayan:


The damnn economy practically runs on petrol, especially in the absence of adequate electricity,
Most of you don't understand how close you are to being unemployed!
Subsidy is and has always been a scam, you just parrot what the scammers say, but non can tell what the landing cost of petrol is nor the terms of transfer of crude oil to petrol,

You're always negative, over everything, and I have never seen any positive or solution-driven post from you.

I've no doubt you're a sadist (won't actually use the word that comes to mind) so find others to quote because I dont do back and forth with toxic, bitter and negative people.

joyandfaith:


How did nnpc arrive at #500 per litre ? You are being mislead. At most#350 per litre with removal of subsidy.

I actually agree with this and was saying the exact same amount to someone today.

Nonetheless that should be an issue for the Government to inspect thoroughly and seek formal justification of.

Would be interesting to discuss that on another thread, as I think it is seperate consideration deserving exhaustive examination, yet the sustantive topic is about subsidy removal lacking benefit.

It does in my opinion. Plenty if we can use savings benefically at a time Nigeria is really cash-strapped.

Illiterate analysis

BigIyanga:

But most developed countries like USA, UK, France, China, Canada have heavily subsidized public transportation systems??
What does Naija subsidized outside PMS?? None

Unfortunately, Nigeria's governance has always been haphazard and lacking direction.

That does not mean things cannot change for the better.

A serious and sincere government can put together action plans for many sectors (health, education, transport etal) to produce a good mix of government and private sector working together to deliver affordable social amenities and services.

Subsidy removal can help in this regard, as positive contribution, towards that target. Yet what would really move Nigeria ahead drastically, per socio-economic development, is aggressive diversification of our economy away from a focus on oil and gas only.

The inherent flexibilty in the economic potentials of Nigeria is considerable.

Of course subsidy removal is the subject of the moment but creating a more diverse economy is even more important to Nigeria and Nigerians.

We can certainly do far more in agriculture, manufacturing, SME business start-up and support, science and technology etc, etc but the overall point is we need the Nigerian economy to become significantly more vibrant through addition of new income and aggressive IGR growth.

This can help Government gain the cash to develop key sectors that are critical to economic growth and development of Nigeria.

Lol

Dsalvo:


I actually agree with this and was saying the exact same amount to someone today.

Nonetheless that should be an issue for the Government to inspect thoroughly and seek formal justification of.

Would be interesting to discuss that on another thread, as I think it is seperate consideration deserving exhaustive examination, yet the sustantive topic is about subsidy removal lacking benefit.

It does in my opinion. Plenty if we can use savings benefically at a time Nigeria is really cash-strapped.

Nothing wrong in removing subsidy as Nigeria costom are impotent in stopping fuel smuggling to neighbouring countries.
Price fixing by nnpc is a scam. Subsidy itself is a scam. I am just interested in how nnpc arrives at current price.

It has no impact on Nigeria economy

Lol
Omo illiterates full here o, especially that one wer say it is a done deal.
Chia, Nigerians and suffering 5&6

Dsalvo:


You're always negative, over everything, and I have never seen any positive or solution-driven post from you.

I've no doubt you're a sadist (won't actually use the word that comes to mind) so find others to quote because I dont do back and forth with toxic, bitter and negative people.

Just a realist,
I don't live in the sky

marlow1962:
Lol
Omo illiterates full here o, especially that one wer say it is a done deal.
Chia, Nigerians and suffering 5&6

But you haven't educated us despite claiming literate.

StaffofOrayan:


Just a realist,
I don't live in the sky

You're not a realist otherwise all your utterances would not be dark, pessimistic and cynical. Realists can be progressive, optimistic and hopeful.

Zxcvbnmghtr:


But you haven't educated us despite claiming literate.

You no know where sch they, abi you no know road to library.
They wait make person educate you.

Dsalvo:


Unfortunately, Nigeria's governance has always been haphazard and lacking direction.

That does not mean things cannot change for the better.

A serious and sincere government can put together action plans for many sectors (health, education, transport etal) to produce a good mix of government and private sector working together to deliver affordable social amenities and services.

Subsidy removal can help in this regard, as positive contribution, towards that target. Yet what would really move Nigeria ahead drastically, per socio-economic development, is aggressive diversification of our economy away from a focus on oil and gas only.

The inherent flexibilty in the economic potentials of Nigeria is considerable.

Of course subsidy removal is the subject of the moment but creating a more diverse economy is even more important to Nigeria and Nigerians.

We can certainly do far more in agriculture, manufacturing, SME business start-up and support, science and technology etc, etc but the overall point is we need the Nigerian economy to become significantly more vibrant through addition of new income and aggressive IGR growth.

This can help Government gain the cash to develop key sectors that are critical to economic growth and development of Nigeria.

Theoretical solutions are no solutions in Naija. How do you build SMEs without petrol and power?
Have you run a small barbing salon/photocopying shop? They are all need petrol to function.

Dsalvo:


You're not a realist otherwise all your utterances would not be dark, pessimistic and cynical. Realists can be progressive, optimistic and hopeful.

Ask the older people around you where their hope has led Nigeria,
Its like hoping Air Nigeria isn't a scam,
even though reality shows from the beginning it is an unintelligent scam

Dsalvo:


You're not a realist otherwise all your utterances would not be dark, pessimistic and cynical. Realists can be progressive, optimistic and hopeful.

Story.. Start a barbing salon today and run your genset @N650/l… let’s see how far you’ll go.

BigIyanga:

Story.. Start a barbing salon today and run your genset @N650/l… let’s see how far you’ll go.

Lol. I run three succesful businesses, two being new start-up within the past 2 years that are primarily online using theories of e-marketing, so I don't think you appreciate that not everyone must run a barber shop, POS stall or comm centre.

The more specialist knowledge and education you have, the more sophisticated and profitable the businesses you can start and run without even tangible premises.

In any case , my own barber is doing fine. Him and most of his compatriots have long switched to rechargeable clippers ages ago that can run for hours on full charge. He is even able to do more lucrative home service because of the rechargeable clippers he now uses.

You started off thinking you're smarter than others but actually mentioned a profession that science and tech has helped to be less reliant on generators proving the point some of you may just be arguing mischievously and not objectively.

Nigeria will make better progress when the average Nigerian learns to be more about solutions provision than arguing blindly to pander to biased position they feel duty bound to hold on to.

Nothing wrong with making your point while still keeping an open mind that means you can learn from others. Best wishes.

Dsalvo:


Lol. I run three succesful businesses, two being new start-up within the past 2 years that are primarily online using theories of e-marketing, so I don't think you appreciate that not everyone must run a barber shop, POS stall or comm centre.

The more specialist knowledge and education you have, the more sophisticated and profitable the businesses you can start and run without even tangible premises.

In any case , my own barber is doing fine. Him and most of his compatriots have long switched to rechargeable clippers ages ago that can run for hours on full charge. He is even able to do more lucrative home service because of the rechargeable clippers he now uses.

You started off thinking you're smarter than others but actually mentioned a profession that science and tech has helped to be less reliant on generators proving the point some of you may just be arguing mischievously and not objectively.

Nigeria will make better progress when the average Nigerian learns to be more about solutions provision than arguing blindly to pander to biased position they feel duty bound to hold on to.

Nothing wrong with making your point while still keeping an open mind that means you can learn from others. Best wishes.

Your post is lacking in practical experience pervNaija biz environment. Asking barber to use cordless clippers doesn't mean that electricity isn't required. It’s like asking Nigerians to switch to electric vehicles without providing electricity??


Armchair solution provider . How can SME start and grow without petroleum and subsidy or its alternative?
Talking about online business, do you realize you need genset to charge and power your laptops and phones? Do you realize that guy who sells laptop.. uses genset? Importer of those gadgets will pass on the costs to you.
Do you realize that service providers, telcoms and equipment vendors all need petroleum products in order for your online biz to thrive? Ask Glo, MTN, Airtel how they spend in using petroleum to power their cell towers, stations and call/data centers. Businesses cant lose.. only masses will be bear those costs with N30k/minimum wage.
Almost all Naija SMEs use electricity which is powered by petroleum…so what is the alternative?

UK, US, China and EU subsidize their transport systems.. what does Naija subsidize outside petroleum products that are produced in Naija?

BigIyanga:

Your post is lacking in practical experience pervNaija biz environment. Asking barber to use cordless clippers doesn't mean that electricity isn't required. It’s like asking Nigerians to switch to electric vehicles without providing electricity??


Armchair solution provider . How can SME start and grow without petroleum and subsidy or its alternative?
Talking about online business, do you realize you need genset to charge and power your laptops and phones? Do you realize that guy who sells laptop.. uses genset? Importer of those gadgets will pass on the costs to you.
Do you realize that service providers, telcoms and equipment vendors all need petroleum products in order for your online biz to thrive? Ask Glo, MTN, Airtel how they spend in using petroleum to power their cell towers, stations and call/data centers. Businesses cant lose.. only masses will be bear those costs with N30k/minimum wage.
Almost all Naija SMEs use electricity which is powered by petroleum…so what is the alternative?

UK, US, China and EU subsidize their transport systems.. what does Naija subsidize outside petroleum products that are produced in Naija?

You have a problem. It called tribalism. The sort that makes you dedicated to discrediting all the efforts and ideas of others because you dislike their ethnic origin.

Tinubu will fail. Everything he has done is horrendous and inept. Happy now? Good.

Those of us who are progressive and can rise above primordial hatred of other will get on with doing our bit, however small, and on whatever capacity, to support the effort of our new President.

Dsalvo:


You have a problem. It called tribalism. The sort that makes you dedicated to discrediting all the efforts and ideas of others because you dislike their ethnic origin.

Tinubu will fail. Everything he has done is horrendous and inept. Happy now? Good.

Those of us who are progressive and can rise above primordial hatred of other will get on with doing our bit, however small, and on whatever capacity, to support the effort of our new President.

An inbred tribalist who only votes for his kinsmen as VP and Presidential candidates. You and your ilk have only voted for kinsmen since 1993-2023.

The reason why subsidy wasn't good in 2012… was because of your tribalism and blind loyalty to a man who told you to kick against it because it was initiated by someone who’s not your tribesman. Oando owned by Tinubus has made $bns from subsidy.

Make sure you have saved up for across the board price hike that will follow.. Musa, Shinedu and Taiwo must pay… Your sycophancy is going to run out of petrol. Naija banks dont accept sycophancy credit… you have to pay with your Naira..

joyandfaith:


How did nnpc arrive at #500 per litre ? You are being mislead. At most#350 per litre with removal of subsidy.

A question interligent nigerians will ask bigots will always move on with it