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Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Kukutenla: 11:42pm On Jun 09, 2023
seunmsg:


I can see you are now avoiding me. Go and read the interpretation act and stop embarrassing yourself. Attached is a screenshot from the law. The president can suspend anyone he appoints.
If we're to go by the words of this screenshot in conjunction with the CBN act then the president can't suspend him. The screenshot clearly says "power to remove or suspend" which means both remove and suspend are regarded as one and same thing. However, the CBN act clearly spells out the process of appointment and removal of a CBN gov and neither can be exercised without approval of the Senate. Where something is clearly spelt out, it needs no further interpretation says the supreme court.
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by seunmsg(m): 11:43pm On Jun 09, 2023
Ofunaofu:


Yes I am

So the interpretation act supersede all act of the National assembly of which the CBN act is one

No matter how you look at it, the president will still need the support or approval of two-thirds majority of the senate to make this sack legal. Don't you think so

The interpretation act is not superior to any other act of the National Assembly. It only interprets all the acts of the National Assembly. The CBN governor has not been sacked, he has simply been suspended in accordance with section 11 of the interpretation act.

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Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by seunmsg(m): 11:55pm On Jun 09, 2023
Kukutenla:

If we're to go by the words of this screenshot in conjunction with the CBN act then the president can't suspend him. The screenshot clearly says "power to remove or suspend" which means both remove and suspend are regarded as one and same thing. However, the CBN act clearly spells out the process of appointment and removal of a CBN gov and neither can be exercised without approval of the Senate. Where something is clearly spelt out, it needs no further interpretation says the supreme court.

Remove and suspend are not the same thing. If they are the same, the law will simply say remove and nothing else. Or as used in the law is a conjunction that gives alternatives. The president that appoints can remove, suspend, sack etc. However, the interpretation act will be read together with the principal act (CBN act) for proper interpretation of some provisions. The interpretation act alone cannot guide removal of the governor. Removal will be in accordance with the principal act and the interpretation act. Suspension on the other hand is not provided for in the provincial act so the interpretation act alone is enough.

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Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by jahsharon: 12:32am On Jun 10, 2023
Ofunaofu:
"According to Section 11(2)(f) of the CBN Act, the President shall remove the CBN Governor from office provided that the governor’s removal shall be supported by a two-thirds majority of the Senate praying that he be removed".

Hope this is not political vendetta

E dey DSS office now, go and release him there the same way you release Nnamdi Kanu
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Kukutenla: 12:41am On Jun 10, 2023
seunmsg:


Remove and suspend are not the same thing. If they are the same, the law will simply say remove and nothing else. Or as used in the law is a conjunction that gives alternatives. The president that appoints can remove, suspend, sack etc. However, the interpretation will be read together with the principal act (CBN act) for proper interpretation of some provisions. The interpretation act alone cannot guide removal. Removal will be in accordance with the principal act and the interpretation act. Suspending however is not provided for in the provincial act so the interpretation act alone is enough.
The interpretation act does not confer powers on anybody. That's same mistake those who were defending Jonathan's suspension of Sanusi were making then, and it's instructive you who were on the opposite side then are employing same logic now.
Since we're talking about suspension and removal, can we apply same logic and say the NASS can suspend the president? I'm sure you'll change course now.
The interpretation act is an act used to interprete acts of the legislature not to confer powers. The use of removal OR suspension in that act is a corollary to the power to appoint. It's obvious the CBN act does not grant absolute apointing powers to the president over the CBN governor. It is shared with NASS. Same for his removal. If suspension does not exist in the CBN act, you can't rely on the interpretation act to introduce it if not, the president can as well rely on the interpretations act to unilaterally appoint a substantive CBN governor.
The use of removal or suspension is to establish that both follow same process not separately as you dissected it. That's the point I was making concerning the use of "or" in that section.

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Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by plaindealer: 12:53am On Jun 10, 2023
Kukutenla:

The interpretation act does not confer powers on anybody. That's same mistake those who were defending Jonathan's suspension of Sanusi were making then, and it's instructive you who were on the opposite side then are employing same logic now.
Since we're talking about suspension and removal, can we apply same logic and say the NASS can suspend the president? I'm sure you'll change course now.
The interpretation act is an act used to interprete acts of the legislature not to confer powers. The use of removal OR suspension in that act is a corollary to the power to appoint. It's obvious the CBN act does not grant absolute apointing powers to the president over the CBN governor. It is shared with NASS. Same for his removal. If suspension does not exist in the CBN act, you can't rely on the interpretation act to introduce it if not, the president can as well rely on the interpretations act to unilaterally appoint a substantive CBN governor.
The use of removal or suspension is to establish that both follow same process not separately as you dissected it. That's the point I was making concerning the use of "or" in that section.


Illogical analogy.

The President appoints the CBN governor, not the NASS

The NASS cannot suspend the President, they are a co-equal arm of government, and their one and only option is impeachment.
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Kukutenla: 1:05am On Jun 10, 2023
plaindealer:



Illogical analogy.

The President appoints the CBN governor, not the NASS

The NASS cannot suspend the President, they are a co-equal arm of government, and their one and only option is impeachment.


Seems you're not aware impeachment is another word for removal as far as Nigerian laws are concerned.
What is being discussed is not about hierarchy it's about powers conferred by the laws. If we're to go by your logic, NASS can't remove the president at all since they are co-equal but the laws don't agree with you.
The appointment of the CBN governor by the president is subject to 2/3 Senate approval. That's because the laws intends for the CBN and its board to be autonomous and independent of excessive executive interference
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by talented321: 1:43am On Jun 10, 2023
Parachoko:

Emefiele was not sack, he was only suspended
Tinubu is back by law to suspend him
Forget that manchi he think Tinubu is a kid or one dullard
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by richie240: 1:46am On Jun 10, 2023
Pls go to court Biko!
Tilumbu don remove am he don remove am be dt!

No time for unnecessary shalaye!
cool
Ofunaofu:


What is the difference between half a dozen and six

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Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by AfonjaScud: 2:19am On Jun 10, 2023
Ofunaofu:
"According to Section 11(2)(f) of the CBN Act, the President shall remove the CBN Governor from office provided that the governor’s removal shall be supported by a two-thirds majority of the Senate praying that he be removed".

Hope this is not political vendetta

IPOB miscreant
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Nahunger(m): 2:34am On Jun 10, 2023
4TFK:
There is a difference,For half a dozen , you need to establish what a dozen is and divide the value by 2. In the case of 6,just count 1,2.....to 6. Is it clear? 😂

I wanted to respond to him but then I realized common Sense is not common, imagine a person who claimed to be learned not knowing the difference between half a dozen and the number 6..

All this graduates of 2 by 2 universities 🤦

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Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Spandau: 2:38am On Jun 10, 2023
seunmsg:


Remove and suspend are not the same thing. If they are the same, the law will simply say remove and nothing else. Or as used in the law is a conjunction that gives alternatives. The president that appoints can remove, suspend, sack etc. However, the interpretation will be read together with the principal act (CBN act) for proper interpretation of some provisions. The interpretation act alone cannot guide removal. Removal will be in accordance with the principal act and the interpretation act. Suspending however is not provided for in the provincial act so the interpretation act alone is enough.

Kollington Kadoso Mutairu aka seunmsg. Amofin agba!😆😆😆😆

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Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by OkayDaddy: 5:03am On Jun 10, 2023
Ofunaofu:
"According to Section 11(2)(f) of the CBN Act, the President shall remove the CBN Governor from office provided that the governor’s removal shall be supported by a two-thirds majority of the Senate praying that he be removed".

Hope this is not political vendetta

Ipob dey quote Nigerian law.
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by xtivin(m): 5:09am On Jun 10, 2023
Ofunaofu:
"According to Section 11(2)(f) of the CBN Act, the President shall remove the CBN Governor from office provided that the governor’s removal shall be supported by a two-thirds majority of the Senate praying that he be removed".

Hope this is not political vendetta
He was not removed but suspended. Other things can follow after criminal indictment
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Akungitit: 5:12am On Jun 10, 2023
It's only an illiterate IPOB goat that doesn't know the difference between removal and suspension.
When your parents told you to go to school you refused, now you're selling Gala bread and pure water.
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Akungitit: 5:14am On Jun 10, 2023
Parachoko:


Emefiele was not sack, he was only suspended

Tinubu is back by law to suspend him
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Akungitit: 5:15am On Jun 10, 2023
Tinubu is not back by law, he is " Backed" by law.
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Ofunaofu: 6:06am On Jun 10, 2023
OkayDaddy:


Ipob dey quote Nigerian law.


Emancipate yourself from ethnic and tribal bigotry
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Ofunaofu: 6:07am On Jun 10, 2023
AfonjaScud:


IPOB miscreant

You are a bigot
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Ofunaofu: 6:15am On Jun 10, 2023
Akungitit:
It's only an illiterate IPOB goat that doesn't know the difference between removal and suspension.
When your parents told you to go to school you refused, now you're selling Gala bread and pure water.

You went to school but turned out to become a tribal bigot
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by gabbytabby: 6:17am On Jun 10, 2023
Your line of questioning is suggestive of someone lacking in objectivity and capacity to receive.

Find out difference between sack and suspension

Ofunaofu:


How can you say you don't care

The law is being violated and you say you don't care

Tomorrow you might be a victim, who will speak for you.....
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by plaindealer: 6:18am On Jun 10, 2023
Kukutenla:

Seems you're not aware impeachment is another word for removal as far as Nigerian laws are concerned.
What is being discussed is not about hierarchy it's about powers conferred by the laws. If we're to go by your logic, NASS can't remove the president at all since they are co-equal but the laws don't agree with you.
The appointment of the CBN governor by the president is subject to 2/3 Senate approval. That's because the laws intends for the CBN and its board to be autonomous and independent of excessive executive interference


Sadly for you, in the eyes of the Nigerian constitution, the CBN gov was suspended, not removed or sacked.,

And per the rest of your irrelevant opinion and NASS, it's not even worth debating.

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Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by OkayDaddy: 6:18am On Jun 10, 2023
Ofunaofu:

Emancipate yourself from ethnic and tribal bigotry

But you dey support Ipob. Dey play

You should rather free yourself from those tying down your parents like rams in Igboland.

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Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Ofunaofu: 6:24am On Jun 10, 2023
OkayDaddy:


But you dey support Ipob. Dey play

You should rather free yourself from those tying down your parents like rams in Igboland.

Then you be oduduwa republic agitator

Who burn down police station and attack a radio station recently
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by tesppidd: 6:30am On Jun 10, 2023
Acekidc4:
Whether na Political Venza or Vendetta, we no care, all we care about is for the Bald headed Criminal to vacate that CBN position and make DSS and Efcc do their job.

Ikoyi Prison will be Ok for him. Let him go and Relax there.
You don't care!

But if it was Buhari that violated a law you will care.

See Nigeria's problem?
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by StJohnKml: 7:04am On Jun 10, 2023
Ofunaofu:
"According to Section 11(2)(f) of the CBN Act, the President shall remove the CBN Governor from office provided that the governor’s removal shall be supported by a two-thirds majority of the Senate praying that he be removed".

Hope this is not political vendetta
I hope you understand english language eventually.

Suspension is not removal.

Before you reason far off, take time to check out the meaning of these words- Suspension and Removal/Sack.

If you are suspended in your office, does that mean you have been sacked?

Don't let bitterness blind you.
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Ofunaofu: 7:07am On Jun 10, 2023
StJohnKml:

I hope you understand english language eventually.

Suspension is not removal.

Before you reason far off, take time to check out the meaning of these words- Suspension and Removal/Sack.

If you are suspended in your office, does that mean you have been sacked?

Don't let bitterness blind you.

I am not bitter and got no reason to be

In Nigeria, suspension is the Euphemism of sack

Even the suspension, is it backed by law, that is the purpose of this thread
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by StJohnKml: 7:14am On Jun 10, 2023
Ofunaofu:


I am not bitter and got no reason to be

In Nigeria, suspension is the Euphemism of sack

Even the suspension, is it backed by law, that is the purpose of this thread
You quoted a requisite criteria for the removal of the governor, oga.
If you wanna ask a question about suspension, ask your question. Don't mix the two.

How do you reference the act talking about removal when you are making an enquiry on suspension?

All these emotional nairalanders sef. Tueh!
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Ofunaofu: 7:30am On Jun 10, 2023
StJohnKml:

You quoted a requisite criteria for the removal of the governor, oga.
If you wanna ask a question about suspension, ask your question. Don't mix the two.

How do you reference the act talking about removal when you are making an enquiry on suspension?

All these emotional nairalanders sef. Tueh!

You are actually the one being emotional

Now that you are raising the issue of Emefiele being suspended, kindly avail us with the requisite sections of the CBN act that supports it simple
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Kukutenla: 7:31am On Jun 10, 2023
plaindealer:



Sadly for you, in the eyes of the Nigerian constitution, the CBN gov was suspended, not removed or sacked.,

And per the rest of your irrelevant opinion and NASS, it's not even worth debating.

What is "sadly for me" there? Is the CBN gov my family member or you think I'm one of you Zombies who pick crumbs from politicians?

The thread is a debate not one of emotional renditions. You're supposed to offer your opinion not cry or laugh. But political sycophants like you won't get that
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by Ofunaofu: 7:40am On Jun 10, 2023
Akungitit:
It's only an illiterate IPOB goat that doesn't know the difference between removal and suspension.
When your parents told you to go to school you refused, now you're selling Gala bread and pure water.

What is the difference between impeachment and removal in Nigeria political parlance

Let assume it is suspension, is it backed by the CBN act
Re: Emefiele Sack: How Constitutional Is His Suspension by DMerciful(m): 7:47am On Jun 10, 2023
Following GEJ footstep when he suspended Sanusi and then, APC people were saying it was unconstitutional.
Now the chicken has come home to roost!
Parachoko:


Emefiele was not sack, he was only suspended

Tinubu is back by law to suspend him

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