I'v never seen a rich programmer in Nigeria. Apart from hearsay...

How many have u met?

They don't make noise

dokibo:
I'v never seen a rich programmer in Nigeria. Apart from hearsay...

How many have u met?

Maybe you should change environment.

dokibo:
I'v never seen a rich programmer in Nigeria. Apart from hearsay...

How many have u met?

Just because someone is a programmer doesn't mean he/she must be rich. It's just a job like every other jobs like plumbing, pastor work, bank jobs, Uber drivers, etc. In the end of the month you get your paycheck

So why have such mindset that every programmer you must see has to be rich? Do you have such mindset when you see pastors, bankers, plumbers, politicians, real estate agents, etc??

No go put some people for unnecessary rat race. Abi you think say na yahoo yahoo be programming?

Some kind people go just de use yahoo boy eye dey look programmers

There are naija programmers that're low-key rich especially all these mid - senior devs

Check the lives of most senior devs
Their kids goes to expensive top notch schools
Their wives and girlfriends wear the most expensive

Senior Devs programmers are rich. It will take you about 8-10 years to get to that level.

UyaiIncomparabl:
Senior Devs programmers are rich. It will take you about 8-10 years to get to that level.

Junior Devs too, it's about maximizing your values. Most junior dev don't do real world projects, they do bootcamp work.

qtguru:


Junior Devs too, it's about maximizing your values. Most junior dev don't do real world projects, they do boot camp work.

I think freelance pays better than onsite jobs esp here in Nigeria where tech guys are grossly underpaid.

UyaiIncomparabl:


I think freelance pays better than onsite jobs esp here in Nigeria where tech guys are grossly underpaid.

Is that what you are using to feed your family daily? or the same hearsay

Eidris01:
They don't make noise

Don't be decieved, most of them are only IT trainers cos they are broke. None of their products are in the commercial market fetching them money on a daily basis.

UyaiIncomparabl:
Senior Devs programmers are rich. It will take you about 8-10 years to get to that level.

How many years experience do you have in programming?

dokibo:


How many years experience do you have in programming?

I'm not a programmer. But, I have friends who are Devs.

dokibo:


Is that what you are using to feed your family daily? or the same hearsay

Are you a programmer?

UyaiIncomparabl:


I think freelance pays better than onsite jobs esp here in Nigeria where tech guys are grossly underpaid.

Freelance sucks way more

Onsite pays more

You no fit compare front end developer for Cowrywise and front end developer for upwork

DyingFetus:



Freelance sucks way more

Onsite pays more

You no fit compare front end developer for Cowrywise and front end developer for upwork

You think Upwork doesn't pay well ?

DyingFetus:



Freelance sucks way more

Onsite pays more

You no fit compare front end developer for Cowrywise and front end developer for upwork

Not if the Upwork front end dev knows what they are doing. I'm not a dev but I've gotten some Upwork gigs in my field where I earned more in a week than what I earn in my regular job. Okay, yes I've had some experience and leverage on some of the stools and stuff I learned at work. But if you know what you are doing, Upwork can be very rich pickings

airsaylongcome:


Not if the Upwork front end dev knows what they are doing. I'm not a dev but I've gotten some Upwork gigs in my field where I earned more in a week than what I earn in my regular job. Okay, yes I've had some experience and leverage on some of the stools and stuff I learned at work. But if you know what you are doing, Upwork can be very rich pickings

It's rich picking, I got a client and this US guys have money but not interested in doing the work

This post is akin to saying why there aren't rich plumbers, Uber drivers, e.t.c.
There are, and it's not hearsay. I've seen and talked to some (one's working for my old man on one of his houses).

For the programmers, there are, know of one while I was in Lagos years back.
Unless your definition of rich for them is one who's earning 100M+ annually

omor! people dey talk oh

airsaylongcome:


Not if the Upwork front end dev knows what they are doing. I'm not a dev but I've gotten some Upwork gigs in my field where I earned more in a week than what I earn in my regular job. Okay, yes I've had some experience and leverage on some of the stools and stuff I learned at work. But if you know what you are doing, Upwork can be very rich pickings

It pure luck, atleast in 2023. There are people who equally known what they are doing. If you now live in a third world, just known you maybe ranked at the bottom. Not to talk about clients that will frustrate you. Overall it not all by your abilities.

Xinjin:
It pure luck, atleast in 2023. There are people who equally known what they are doing. If you now live in a third world, just known you maybe ranked at the bottom. Not to talk about clients that will frustrate you. Overall it not all by your abilities.

It's work and consistency, and research, I use Upwork full time and i have 3 clients that are permanent.

qtguru:


It's work and consistency, and research, I use Upwork full time and i have 3 clients that are permanent.

That's it, you have been there for long and build a network, Even at that I believe it not all sweet experiences. Now imagine with all your portfolio, you're new on the platform and just applying to those 3 jobs.

qtguru:


It's work and consistency, and research, I use Upwork full time and i have 3 clients that are permanent.

A huge ton of research! And while it can be gruelling doing the research the payoff is worth it when the time comes. Last week I rolled out an SMS solution for an Upwork client. And it wasn't like I was skilled in SMS. I had stumbled across PlaySMS, Kannel and Jasmin (all open source SMS solution). Customer had a 64-SIM modem which I had never worked with. I pulled out my Raspberry pi, deployed Gammu (a USB modem driver) and playSMS. Two hours later I was able to to convince the client. 4 hours later project was live. Now I have a somewhat long term contract to support the setup. It's hard work initially. But when you get it right, UW can be rewarding. I understand the other poster's sentiment about the suffer to get jobs coming from Nigeria

Xinjin:
It pure luck, atleast in 2023. There are people who equally known what they are doing. If you now live in a third world, just known you maybe ranked at the bottom. Not to talk about clients that will frustrate you. Overall it not all by your abilities.

I don't know if I agree that it's luck. It's a lot of persistence and hardwork. And yeah I spent my own money buying connects initially. But now, I get one or two invites weekly.

airsaylongcome:


I don't know if I agree that it's luck. It's a lot of persistence and hardwork. And yeah I spent my own money buying connects initially. But now, I get one or two invites weekly.

Well you're the fish inside water now. You seems to be having it good with the serious clients. Atleast you pay and get hired, you didn't go unnoticed or caught up in a tight corner with clients.

All I'm saying is, been successful in freelancing doesn't solely depend on abilities. while you can get contracts easily, all may not go well, you could get exploited.

The whole freelancing thing is a twist path. Alot just follow their nose in the direction the think is safer.

If your skill is well seasoned you won't be broke Hard work pays

qtguru:


It's work and consistency, and research, I use Upwork full time and i have 3 clients that are permanent.

hello, pls I need you to mentor me, I'm willing to learn, pls reply me.

dauntless15:
hello, pls I need you to mentor me, I'm willing to learn, pls reply me.

My hands are full, however I can share resources with you.

qtguru:


My hands are full, however I can share resources with you.

Boss I can wait, sharing resources with me won't change my situation sir, I've spent a lot of time downloading stuff all over the internet and watching endless vids on YouTube, non of this things are practical because if it was I'd have gotten even a single client, I dedicated so much time buying courses and all, and I realized that the one thing I'm missing is a mentor, pls don't let my efforts goto waste, I'd offer to pay you but what will my money do for you that you can't already do for yourself, I'm humble and ready to learn pls help me.

Pls share resource with me I wan learn more.qtguru. pls

dauntless15:
Boss I can wait, sharing resources with me won't change my situation sir, I've spent a lot of time downloading stuff all over the internet and watching endless vids on YouTube, non of this things are practical because if it was I'd have gotten even a single client, I dedicated so much time buying courses and all, and I realized that the one thing I'm missing is a mentor, pls don't let my efforts goto waste, I'd offer to pay you but what will my money do for you that you can't already do for yourself, I'm humble and ready to learn pls help me.

What is your niche ?

Omo I love this post. The truth is, it's not easy to freelance in naija, hunger will beat you. People will take advantage of you, regardless of what you know or how good you are.

Except:
Number 1
You are working full-time for a company that pays well. I bash & curse naija tech companies alot cuz there are a lot that still pay 40k & 50k salary, but I know a few real ones that pay their developers well, they exist. Note, the highest salary or ceiling is 1M dats N1,000,000 or N1,500,000 naira for naija, qoute me if am wrong.

Number 2
Except you have strong contacts in high places to funnel good paying projects to you. E.g you know one big man with connections and he or she link you up to local gigs that are worth ur while. This one no be those useless gigs you see here on nairaland o.

Number 3
Except you work remotely for a foreign company. If you are lucky to land that gig, you're set.

Bottom Line
The Naija Programmers Or Developers that are making money and not broke are silent. They don't make noise cuz work won kill dem, dey don't have time to even enjoy the money that's the truth. If you see dem, you won't even know cuz dey don't have time to barb their hair or shave their beard....lol