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The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 2:02pm On Aug 25, 2023
The GOD of the Old Testament sent Moses born of a man and a woman and gave Moses excess power before pharaoh to show pharaoh HE was the one that sent Moses.

But

The invented god of the New Testament mated with a married woman to produce himself and when he sent himself before pontius pilate who was just a local commander the god of the New Testament could not do nothing.

God Almighty of the Old Testament is the only True God.

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by TemplarLandry: 2:04pm On Aug 25, 2023
You're a very confused fellow.

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 2:11pm On Aug 25, 2023
TemplarLandry:
TemplarLandry is a very confused fellow.

God Almighty of the Old Testament is the only True God.

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Maynman: 3:45pm On Aug 25, 2023
MindHacker9009:


God Almighty of the Old Testament is the only True God.
Lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdKst8zeh-U?si=TrMLUt7HC5RE3u0h

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 3:55pm On Aug 25, 2023
Maynman:

Lol

If we are to go by the Old Testament God Who made it clear that His is not a man and does not mate with married women and not the New Testament god that mated with a married woman to produce himself that could only do invented miracles and when he sent himself before pontius pilate who was just a local commander and he could do nothing like the God of the Old Testament then it is good to help followers of the invented jesus christ that they are following a fake god of the New Testament and if they truly want to follower a True God then they should follow the True God in the Old Testament.

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Maynman: 3:58pm On Aug 25, 2023
MindHacker9009:


If we are to go by the Old Testament God Who made it clear that His is not a man and does not mate with married women and not the New Testament god that mated with a married woman to produce himself that could only do invented miracles and when he sent himself before pontius pilate who was just a local commander and he could do nothing like the God of the Old Testament then it is good to help followers of the invented jesus christ that they are following a fake god of the New Testament and if they truly want to follower a True God then they should follow the True God in the Old Testament.
Lol, both the jewish god and his alleged son are invented.

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 4:12pm On Aug 25, 2023
Maynman:

Lol, both the jewish god and his alleged son are invented.

The original Judaism is Kabbalah which the Roman empire took away from the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem to Roman and from which they wrote the Old Testament, so yes the Old Testament God contains some Roman empire invention and some original Jewish God from the Jewish Kabbalah.
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by JohnNgene: 4:16pm On Aug 25, 2023
TRUTHS VERSUS RELIGIOUS LIES

1. It is a lie that God wrote the torah, bible, quran and other holy books.

ALL HOLY BOOKS WERE WRITTEN BY HUMANS AND EVERY RELIGION WAS CREATED BY HUMANS.

2. It is a lie that there is only one God.

THERE ARE MANY GODS. APART FROM THE POPULAR ONES LIKE GOD THE CHI, GOD THE ZEUS, GOD THE SHIVA, GOD THE YAHWEH, GOD THE BUDDHA, GOD THE AMATERASU, GOD THE JESUS, GOD THE ALLAH AND GOD THE NON-EXISTING, THERE ARE OTHERS LIKE GOD THE AIR, GOD THE WATER, GOD THE EARTH, GOD THE SUN, GOD THE MOON, GOD THE STARS, GOD THE ANIMALS, GOD THE PLANTS, GOD THE INSECTS AND GOD THE HUMANS.

3. It is a lie that God is holy.

GOD IS NEUTRAL. GOD IS BOTH EVIL AND GOOD. GOD IS BOTH DARKNESS AND LIGHT.

4. It is a lie that God lives in heaven.

GOD LIVES EVERYWHERE. HEAVEN AND HELL ARE IMAGINARY PLACES THAT EXIST ONLY INSIDE HOLY BOOKS.

5. It is a lie that God has an enemy.

THE GOD THAT CREATED ALL OF CREATION HAS NO ENEMY. HOWEVER, IT IS TRUE THAT THE ABRAHAMIC GOD OF SATURDAYISM, SUNDAYISM AND FRIDAYISM HAS AN ENEMY CALLED SATAN. THE GODS OF OTHER RELIGIONS MAY OR MAY HAVE THEIR OWN ENEMY OR ENEMIES TOO.

6. It is a lie that God created the world in six days and rested on the seventh day.

NOBODY KNOWS HOW LONG IT TOOK FOR THE WORLD AND ALL ITS CREATURES TO BE CREATED. NO RELIGION HAS ANY PROOF FOR THEIR CREATION STORIES.

7. It is a lie that God made only humans in the image and likeness of God and gave humans dominion over other creatures on earth.

NOBODY KNOWS THE IMAGE OF GOD. IT IS MORE LOGICAL TO SPECULATE THAT GOD IS TRANSPARENT LIKE THE AIR OR THAT EVERY THING THAT EXISTS ARE THE MANY IMAGES OF GOD.

8. It is a lie that God created the first woman from the rib of the first man then that one man and one woman procreated all the races of humans in the world.

NOBODY KNOWS HOW THE FIRST CREATURES WERE CREATED. FOR MUNWA, THE MOST LOGICAL THEORY IS THAT ALL THE FIRST MALES AND FIRST FEMALES OF EVERY HUMAN RACE WERE CREATED AT THE SAME TIME IN DIFFERENT REGIONS OF THE WORLD. WHAT I AM 100% SURE OF IS THAT GOD THE IFEANYI MY FATHER AND GOD THE AMAKA MY MOTHER CREATED GOD THE CHIBUEZE NGENEAGU THEIR CHILD.

9. It is a lie that women caused the downfall of men and every human by eating a forbidden fruit.

THE EVE AND FORBIDDEN FRUIT STORY IS JUST LIKE AKUKแปŒ MBE, CINDERELLA, HARRYPOTTER AND OTHER SUCH FICTIONAL STORIES.

10. It is a lie that God destroyed the world in the past and will destroy the world in the future.

HUMAN IRRESPONSIBILITY IS WHAT IS DESTROYING THE WORLD MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. CHIBUEZE NGENEAGU WARNS THAT IF HUMANS DON'T STOP DISRESPECTING OUR NON-HUMAN NEIGHBOURS, HUMANS WILL EVENTUALLY GO EXTINCT IN THE FUTURE.

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Maynman: 4:23pm On Aug 25, 2023
MindHacker9009:


The original Judaism is Kabbalah which the Roman empire took away from the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem to Roman and from which they wrote the Old Testament, so yes the Old Testament God contains some Roman empire invention and some original Jewish God from the Jewish Kabbalah.
False.

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 4:26pm On Aug 25, 2023
Maynman:

False.

How? True Judaism is Kabbalah and Kabbalah has direct links to the unseen world.
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Maynman: 4:30pm On Aug 25, 2023
MindHacker9009:


How? True Judaism is Kabbalah and Kabbalah has direct links to the unseen world.
Judaism is from yahwism.

What is in kabbalah that makes it "true judaism"?

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 4:33pm On Aug 25, 2023
Maynman:

Judaism is from yahwism.

What is in kabbalah that it "true judaism"?

You need to watch this video on the history of kabbalah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2uxXVOfpyI
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Maynman: 4:40pm On Aug 25, 2023
MindHacker9009:


You need to watch this video on the history of kabbalah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2uxXVOfpyI
I have studied kabbalah especially lurianic kabbalah, fyi, there is no god concept in kabbalah.
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Maynman: 4:42pm On Aug 25, 2023
MindHacker9009:


You need to watch this video on the history of kabbalah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2uxXVOfpyI
Watch this video on the history of "God of old testament"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdKst8zeh-U?si=RV3B7s7sL_KMzE24
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 5:08pm On Aug 25, 2023
Maynman:

I have studied kabbalah especially lurianic kabbalah, fyi, there is no god concept in kabbalah.

I will do more research on kabbalah

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 5:46pm On Aug 25, 2023
Maynman:

I have studied kabbalah especially lurianic kabbalah, fyi, there is no god concept in kabbalah.

I have this question, where did the concept of a god come from in every ancient tribes in Nigeria, Africa and around the world who had no links to the Middle eastern gods before European colonization?

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Maynman: 5:54pm On Aug 25, 2023
MindHacker9009:


I have this question, where did the concept of a god come from in every ancient tribes in Nigeria, Africa and around the world who had no links to the Middle eastern gods before European colonization?
The concept of worshipping a thing didn't start in the middle east.

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 6:07pm On Aug 25, 2023
Maynman:

The concept of worshipping a thing didn't start in the middle east.

That was what I was refering to. The question now is why did all the ancient tribes all over the world worship a god. But I'm not sure if the Sentinelese worship a god as no one has been able to enter their island.
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Maynman: 6:14pm On Aug 25, 2023
MindHacker9009:


That was what I was refering to. The question now is why did all the ancient tribes all over the world worship a god. But I'm not sure if the Sentinelese worship a god as no one has been able to enter their island.
They worship different things call god for different purposes, like seun kuti said, "without gods there are no kings", origin of the word "god" means what is "libated upon".
https://www.nairaland.com/7782988/theos-101the-concept-god

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Nobody: 8:51pm On Aug 25, 2023
*Laughs briefly*
You think this is primary school, where you used to do actor vs. boss?

Sha update me, how are you guys coping with this your 'God of Old Testament'?
I heard y'all are no longer sacrificing again and obeying all those Moses' Commandments... What happened na? What changed?

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 9:48am On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:
*Laughs briefly*
You think this is primary school, where you used to do actor vs. boss?

Sha update me, how are you guys coping with this your 'God of Old Testament'?
I heard y'all are no longer sacrificing again and obeying all those Moses' Commandments... What happened na? What changed?

There is a True GOD and different lower gods in the Old Testament. The True God in the Old Testament does not require animal sacrifice, but the other gods in the Old Testament are the ones that wanted animal sacrifice. But after the lower gods of the Old Testament could not defend the temple where they wanted their animal sacrifice and it was destroyed by the Roman empire in ad 70 that brought their animal sacrifice to an end.
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Nobody: 10:01am On Aug 26, 2023
MindHacker9009:


There is a True GOD and different lower gods in the Old Testament. The True God in the Old Testament does not require animal sacrifice, but the other gods in the Old Testament are the ones that wanted animal sacrifice. But after the lower gods of the Old Testament could not defend the temple where they wanted their animal sacrifice and it was destroyed by the Roman empire in 70 that brought their animal sacrifice to an end.

You are saying things that go too far.
Exodus chapter 20-40 was full of God teaching Moses different things, including sacrifices.
So can you explain what actually happened there?

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 10:30am On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:


You are saying things that go too far.
Exodus chapter 20-40 was full of God teaching Moses different things, including sacrifices.
So can you explain what actually happened there?

The Old Testament we have today was written in Rome after the Roman empire destroyed the Temple in ad 70 and took the original Jewish Torah away to Rome from which they then rewrote the Old Testament we have today, this means we don't have the Original Torah True God gave to Moses.
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Nobody: 10:39am On Aug 26, 2023
MindHacker9009:


The Old Testament we have today was written in Rome after the Roman empire destroyed the Temple in ad 70 and took the original Jewish Torah away to Rome from which they then rewrote the Old Testament we have today, this means we don't have the Original Torah True God gave to Moses.

Things are beginning to sound more juicy smiley
So on the original, there is no place where God asked Moses to sacrifice?

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 10:51am On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:


Things are beginning to sound more juicy smiley
So on the original, there is no place where God asked Moses to sacrifice?

The first Temple was destroyed in 586 BC by Nebuchadnezzar, the King of Babylon, when he conquered Jerusalem. So we don't have the Original Torah to know what was in it or the Ark Of the Covenant either. Those of us that want to follow a true God that gave Moses the original Toral can now only be guided only by what a True Merciful God that gave the Original Torah is like and would expect from us.
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Nobody: 11:02am On Aug 26, 2023
MindHacker9009:


The first Temple was destroyed in 586 BC by Nebuchadnezzar, the King of Babylon, when he conquered Jerusalem. So we don't have the Original Torah to know what was in it or the Ark Of the Covenant either. Those of us that want to follow a true God that gave Moses the original Toral can now only be guided only by what a True Merciful God that gave the Original Torah is like and would expect from us.

But you're beginning to counter certain things.

1. God doesn't need sacrifices, other smaller gods did
2. The smaller gods temples were destroyed and they couldn't protect their temples
3. The main God's temple was also destroyed (He didn't protect the temple). Making God resemble the smaller gods in no.2
4. We don't know what's contained in the original Torah, so how were you even sure of no.1

So now, how do we hear from God at all?

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 11:18am On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:


But you're beginning to counter certain things.

1. God doesn't need sacrifices, other smaller gods did
2. The smaller gods temples were destroyed and they couldn't protect their temples
3. The main God's temple was also destroyed (He didn't protect the temple). Making God resemble the smaller gods in no.2
4. We don't know what's contained in the original Torah, so how were you even sure of no.1

So now, how do we hear from God at all?

Now we need to go further back to the Ten Commandments given by The True God in the original Torah and there was no mention of any temple in the Ten Commmandments, so this goes so show that it was the smallers gods that asked Solomon to build a temple for them.
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Nobody: 11:20am On Aug 26, 2023
MindHacker9009:


Now we need to go further back to the Ten Commandments given by The True God in the original Torah and there was no mention of any temple in the Ten Commmandments, so this goes so show that it was the smallers gods that asked Solomon to build a temple for them.

Please where can I find this? The Ten Commandments in the Torah?
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by MindHacker9009(m): 11:26am On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:


Please where can I find this? The Ten Commandments in the Torah?

The Torah is what christians today call the Old Testament there you'll will find the Ten Commandments and it does not mention any temple.
Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Nobody: 11:42am On Aug 26, 2023
MindHacker9009:


The Torah is what christians today call the Old Testament there you'll will find the Ten Commandments and it does not mention any temple.

Okay, let me understand this:

The Torah (Exodus) gives account of the 10 Commandments and we should accept it.
The Torah (Exodus) gives account of Moses' 40 days on the mountain and we shouldn't accept it.
?
I was still curious, how else do we hear God's voice for ourselves?

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Pecuman: 11:45am On Aug 26, 2023
So you don't believe God, the almighty has the ability to create a new human being without sex?.

Like what did he do in Genesis 1 when he created Adam out of dust/earth?. bleeped the ground?.

Lol.

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Re: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by Pecuman: 11:46am On Aug 26, 2023
Maynman:

Watch this video on the history of "God of old testament"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdKst8zeh-U?si=RV3B7s7sL_KMzE24

Largely based on speculation and leaning on the most fanciful materialist take.

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