Yettttttunde:
Iam 37 now at 27 I did cs wen I gave birth to my first child ,I was stigmatized by my own husband and i felt very bad about it.he told me that his sister's have never done anything like that wen they were birthing children I felt so bad and angry but thank God it was successful.i gave birth to the 2nd born and 3rd born through normal delivery.God took control.inhave stopped.let me take care of the beautiful 3 that God gave to me.

Skyview01:


More than three. I am a guy and the likely effect i can think about is the scar, takes longer to heal than vaginal delivery.

My wife had good doctors though and for the last child, my wife mandated that I be in the room during surgery to witnesses everything.

The cons:

1. Cost consideration.
2. Scars take longer to heal.
3. Take a longer time to recover.

Pros;

1.Relatively safe.
2.Vagina is intact for the hubby after childbirth. No tear .
3. It is faster. Less than 30 minutes to complete the CS procedures.
4. Less pain as my wife was sedated and unconscious.

All in all, you must have good doctors and if you would consider CS, i would recommend not more than two times if possible.

DenreleDave:


Oh. Thank you very much sir

GorgeousAF:
Illiteracy at it's peak... wether CS or vaginal delivery,the most important thing is for d baby and mom to be alive and well..I learnt the recovery process of CS is tough..
Had my 3kids via vaginal delivery though..for me I think d " snatching back" is easier if you birth via vaginal delivery.2 hours after delivery I'm already going home😂and the next day you are asking who have birth as im already gaining my strength.. That's just d advantage I see 😂 you are back to normal so fast..your tummy reduces very sharply!! If you don't see my kids or Know me you will argue till eternity that I even have one talk more of 3!!

caandi:
that’s black man mentality for you!

A quick one!

I had a patient who had pre-eclampsia during her pregnancy, she’s a primigravida.
She was advised to carry out a selective ceaseran to avoid further complications prior to delivery

Her hubby blantly refused !

What was his reason? He said In his village no one deliveres thru that means and his wife won’t be the first.

She went into labour and for 4days she was in pains and labour was not progressing at all, she was stuck at 2 cervix dilation…

Atlast she went into epileptic shock and upon insertion baby had passed the meconuim already which was a very bad sign

Now it became a need for emergency CS!
It was the hubby’s sister that signed the form to commence surgery saying God forbid the lady wouldn’t die!

The hubby was looking like a lost puppy and crying crocodile tears while his wife battled for her life!

That day was hot for all of us as all the hcp had to rally around this woman in the theatre to save her life.

Thank God she delivered and the baby was resuscitated and later transferred for further treatment

Guess what the hubby was doing while we were operating on the wife, he went and called all this church ministry people to come to start kabashing in the Hospital, thereby causing Comotion with their noise

Our Md had to beckon on the gateman to walk them out!

What was the hubby’s gain? He spent more money for ER CS with advanced treatment for the child at the expense of the woman’s life!


Hmmm our problem in Nigeria is pure illiteracy and ignorance!

Skyview01:


More than three. I am a guy and the likely effect i can think about is the scar, takes longer to heal than vaginal delivery.

My wife had good doctors though and for the last child, my wife mandated that I be in the room during surgery to witnesses everything.

The cons:

1. Cost consideration.
2. Scars take longer to heal.
3. Take a longer time to recover.

Pros;

1.Relatively safe.
2.Vagina is intact for the hubby after childbirth. No tear .
3. It is faster. Less than 30 minutes to complete the CS procedures.
4. Less pain as my wife was sedated and unconscious.

All in all, you must have good doctors and if you would consider CS, i would recommend not more than two times if possible.

1Sharon:


It's a very straightforward procedure in the West. It takes less than 30 minutes.

Prisco4luv:
We suffered the stigma also.. especially in church

1Sharon:


The thing I don't understand with Nigeria is , why is it that the husband gets to circumvent the doctors orders and decisions

What about what the woman wants??

Does her opinion on her own body not matter?

I've read quite a few topics on Nigerian men trying to circumvent a doctors decisions on their wives choice of birth. A doctor will advice on CS. The husband will come out to insist on VD!!

MrsTwrite:
Why do most Nigerian women stigmatize those ladies that gave birth through CS?

Does it mean that because a woman gave birth through CS she's not a real woman?

Yettttttunde:
Iam 37 now at 27 I did cs wen I gave birth to my first child ,I was stigmatized by my own husband and i felt very bad about it.he told me that his sister's have never done anything like that wen they were birthing children I felt so bad and angry but thank God it was successful.i gave birth to the 2nd born and 3rd born through normal delivery.God took control.inhave stopped.let me take care of the beautiful 3 that God gave to me.

frozen70:


No one stigmatizes any woman that had CS and there is no big deal about CS

Dont be surprise some women prefer that CS to the painful pains of natural birth

Myer:


1. The birth-pang of natural birth is symbolic.
It normally should change a woman forever. It's a NDE that should make one put life and legacy in perspective.
It's difficult not to care for such a child when you know the cost of delivering them.

2. Nigerians don't appreciate CS. In Nigeria CS is also a NDE as some doctors can easily botch the process carelessly. Of course there's the cost implications.
However where it is painless, some mothers don't get that sense of essence of child-birth that instils a sense of purpose, legacy and responsibility into a woman.

I hope this helps.

AmandaPrecious:


The bolded statements are unsupported and reek of sentiments. Where is your evidence that women who go through vaginal delivery care more for and/or bond better with their children than women who deliver through Caesarean surgery? Where is your evidence that a "painless delivery ... doesn't instill a sense of purpose, legacy and responsibility into a woman", huh?

The most annoying thing about ignoramuses like you is that they make bold, confident assertions about things they could possibly have no clue about.

Myer:


Apparently this is a sensitive topic to you. I apologise if you were offended by the comment "painless".
But if you were to read my comment again, I agreed that both natural birth and CS are NDE especially in Nigeria
I agreed that CS is also painful.
I simply added that there are cases where CS is painless (relatively) like I've heard/read about (usually abroad). And in such cases such mothers may not understand the significance of the experience.

You can as well read about it.
Once again I apologise and I'm sincerely sorry you were offended but I was not trivialising CS. I've been through an operation before and I understand the fear and the pain of the healing/recovery process

However where it is painless, some mothers don't get that sense of essence of child-birth that instils a sense of purpose, legacy and responsibility into a woman.

Myer:


1. The birth-pang of natural birth is symbolic.
It normally should change a woman forever. It's a NDE that should make one put life and legacy in perspective.
It's difficult not to care for such a child when you know the cost of delivering them.

2. Nigerians don't appreciate CS. In Nigeria CS is also a NDE as some doctors can easily botch the process carelessly. Of course there's the cost implications.
However where it is painless, some mothers don't get that sense of essence of child-birth that instils a sense of purpose, legacy and responsibility into a woman.

I hope this helps.

AmandaPrecious:


Clearly you didn't understand my response! I'm not arguing with you on whether the Caesarean method is painful or not. I'm challenging the skewed correlation you're trying to create between the method of childbirth and the attitude of mothers towards motherhood. You keep implying that women who go through painless CS do not understand or value the experience of childbirth. This was one of your first claims: ...and I want to know -- on what basis are you making this claim? This is pure speculation at best. You don't have any data to support that position. In fact, there is actual evidence indicating the exact opposite in some delivery cases!
https://bmcpregnancychildbirth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12884-023-05611-8#:~:text=The%20associations%20of%20MOD%20and,mothers%20delivering%20via%20spontaneous%20VD

The orientation of mothers towards their maternal responsibilities goes far beyond their experience during childbirth. The health of the child, the treatment from family members and health officials as well as the mother's own personality are other important factors that may have effect on how much value a mom attaches to her role as a mother.

Myer:


You're a lady so I believe you should have more understanding in this than I do.
I will also do further study on it.

Here's an excerpt from the abstract of the link you shared which means there is more to child birth than science can explain- especially things that are more spiritual than logical.

Abstract
Background
The association between mode of delivery (MOD) and parent-infant-bonding has only been studied in mothers and findings have been inconclusive. The aim of this study was to prospectively investigate how MOD relates to postpartum parent-infant-bonding in both mothers and fathers and whether these associations are mediated by birth experience.

The association between mode of delivery (MOD) and parent-infant-bonding has only been studied in mothers and findings have been inconclusive

However where it is painless, some mothers don't get that sense of essence of child-birth that instils a sense of purpose, legacy and responsibility into a woman.

AmandaPrecious:


Well,.... Pffft! No shit, Sherlock!

If you agree with this part of the study


...then why, oh why did you claim this initially?:


You confidently made a bunch of unjustified, sentimental assertions, posturing as if they were facts, and then started leapfrogging all over the place after being challenged. This is hilarious to watch 😂.

Yettttttunde:
Iam 37 now at 27 I did cs wen I gave birth to my first child ,I was stigmatized by my own husband and i felt very bad about it.he told me that his sister's have never done anything like that wen they were birthing children I felt so bad and angry but thank God it was successful.i gave birth to the 2nd born and 3rd born through normal delivery.God took control.inhave stopped.let me take care of the beautiful 3 that God gave to me.

Myer:


1. The birth-pang of natural birth is symbolic.
It normally should change a woman forever. It's a NDE that should make one put life and legacy in perspective.
It's difficult not to care for such a child when you know the cost of delivering them.

2. Nigerians don't appreciate CS. In Nigeria CS is also a NDE as some doctors can easily botch the process carelessly. Of course there's the cost implications.
However where it is painless, some mothers don't get that sense of essence of child-birth that instils a sense of purpose, legacy and responsibility into a woman.

I hope this helps.

Ajibade123:

What are you saying?? getting pregnant and carrying a baby for 6-9 months is not enough to instils a sense of purpose, legacy and responsibility into a woman?? Until the child have to come through the vaginal?

Myer:


I am actually simply respecting you as a lady who should know better.
I actually am confident of what I shared.
If you do your further study, even secularly you will know this. Consult psychologists.

And if you desire to learn from the one who gives all knowledge, have a relationship with your Father in heaven especially through Christ.

God bless you.

AmandaPrecious:


You must be a comedian in your spare time. Didn't you just agree that there hasn't been any established correlation between motherly attitude towards her children and mode of delivery?

You know what? Why not just simply post at least two links to any studies that support your idea of women giving birth through spontaneous VD having better appreciation of motherhood than those delivering through CS? Where is your intellectual honesty? You are making this more tedious that it's meant to be, running around the thread like a chicken with its' head cut off. I haven't even done anything to you yet and you're already pissing in your pants. Either provide evidence supporting your claim or accept that you were simply spouting baseless assumptions as a confused ignoramus or perhaps a bare faced liar.

Myer:


You have a problem with seeing/reading only what you want to see in a statement.

You're not to blame

Our sight and our perception are 2 different phenomena.

When this statement finally makes sense to you, every other thing, including my replies to you, will begin to make sense.

Who knows, you may even start to believe in God again. Cos apparently you're now an unbeliever.

AmandaPrecious:


No, I have a problem with seeing dummies make up random theories and pass them as though they were factual.



Of course it isn't my fault that your arguments are bereft of any actual substance.



Gee, thanks a lot, Captain Obvious.



If you're trying to suggest that your claim of mothers appreciating motherhood more when they go through spontaneous VD is solely your personal belief or opinion (perception of the issue), then I have no gripes with that. However, it could be your opinion, but clearly it isn't fact -- as your repeated failure to back it up with evidence has demonstrated.



I wonder what this has to do with anything?

Myer:


Nothing can truly make sense to you until you believe in God and he opens your understanding.

You're simoly simply secular and sensual and carnal.

You're intelligent

but not Wise

The Birth pang of natural birth is symbolic.

(I could try to explain the symbolism but it's spiritual).

It's painful and the Near Death Experience instills a sense of responsibility in a Woman. It's difficult for such a person not to care for such child.

Women, as well as their partners, can experience childbirth in many different ways. A negative childbirth experience may have adverse effects on the entire family, resulting, for instance, in parental stress symptoms and a weakened parent-child relationship. Parental stress, without sufficient resources to compensate for it, may also in and of itself negatively influence the parent-child relationship.

However where CS (and even natural birth) is not painful and no fear of death due to good technology and doctors as is obtainable in some quarters abroad, the absence of the fear and relative pain might not instill the sense of responsibility in such a mother.

I took the time to express myself clearly to you because it seems you perceive I made a generic assertion that all CS is painless and not a near death experience.

Which is why you have practically been insulting and raining invectives on me, yet I have simply respected you all along.

If after all this you still have a grouse to pick with me, I'm afraid you're officially on your own.

Good bye.

AmandaPrecious:


Well, I don't think belief in God/s has absolutely anything to do with your own inability to grasp the crux of this simple discussion. You are only trying to shield your medical incompetence with the pretense of having access to knowledge beyond human cognition. Nothing about you is remotely special my dear. You're just another dumbo who refuses to learn the basic distinction between factual claims and mere speculation.



Even with your acclaimed belief in God, you falter in spelling basic words. Is that the fault of your God, or due to your obvious intellectual deficits?



Probably more than you, at least.



If wisdom consists of making blind and unverifiable statements about things I couldn't possibly know, then yes, I'm far from wise.



Lol. Here we go.



And there's literally no way your explanation would even begin to make any sense unless you could define and demonstrate the existence of "spirit".



And this quote has been debunked numerous times already.

1. There are many more factors that influence a mother's attitude towards her kids after childbirth besides the method of delivery or whether it was painful or painless. I already mentioned these factors in a previous post. A painful delivery can NOT, on its own, bestow a "sense of responsibility" in a woman after said delivery.

2. If you had taken your time to make actual research instead of making blind assertions like the spirit-filled illiterate that you are, you would find that in many cases, painful childbirth can actually have adverse effects on a mother's relationship with her kids=>

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7504903/#:~:text=A%20negative%20childbirth%20experience%20may,a%20weakened%20parent%2Dchild%20relationship.

Notice how I use actual evidence to support my position rather than falling back to unevidenced subjective opinions or spouting gibberish about divine knowledge or revelations lol.



Based on the aforementioned points, this claim here is totally false.



If this is what you really thought my argument was from all the posts I've made so far, then it just means that your level of comprehension leaves much to be desired.



Quit whinging, untwist your knotted up panties and stop getting emotional. I haven't even touched you yet. If you knew the kind of person I was, you'll realize that by my standards, I've been very merciful. My style is to disentangle spurious arguments from dummies with ruthless shellacking and putdowns. What you are seeing is just the tip of the iceberg.



You know, it wouldn't kill you to admit that you were wrong on your claims. Instead you want to drag the issue even after getting debunked over and over. That's the mark of a prideful dumbass with no intellectual integrity.



Soft boy. Don't let the door smack your face as walk out, tail between your legs.