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Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by Enice(m): 10:08pm On Sep 26, 2023
When the result is finally released, they will cry that it has been changed, if not why was Tinubu opposed to it being released. Then another wailing starts. We said it before, the wailing is for 8 years. 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

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Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by Pentasoft1978: 10:09pm On Sep 26, 2023
*Update*

*US COURT AFFIRMED PREVIOUS RULING, ORDERED CHICAGO STATE UNIVERSITY TO RELEASE ALL ACADEMIC RECORDS OF BOLA TINUBU WITHIN 48 HOURS, AND TESTIFY ON OATH!*

Pls Read the proceeding
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Atiku Abubakar’s Lawyers prevailed at last And Justice Was Done!!!

It Wasn’t An Easy Road And The Masters Of Oluwole And Technicalities Tried To Employ Their Full Arsenal Of Technicalities But Failed Under The Light Of TRUE JUSTICE. The Following Facts Are Relevant To The Victory Of Atiku Abubakar In The Case:

- The Intervenor BAT And The Injustice League Objected To 2 Out Of 3 Requirements (a And b) Which Includes (a)Residency: The Entity From Which The Discovery Is Sought Must Reside In The District Of The Court
(b)Usability: The Discovery Must Be For Use In a Proceeding Before A Foreign Tribunal (c)Locus: The Application Must Be Submitted By A Foreign Or International Tribunal Or An Interested Party In The Foreign Proceedings.

- The Intervenors (BAT) Vehemently Argued That The Discovery Atiku Seeks Is Not Relevant To The Nigerian Proceedings Because Issues Regarding BAT’s Educational Background Were Not Referenced Specifically In Atiku’s Petition Filed With The Court Of Appeal And Was Introduced In His Reply (Relying On Tsamani Validated Technicality) And That Supreme Court Cannot Consider New Evidence.
Atiku’s Counsel Responded That The Discovery They Seek If It Yields New Evidence Can Be Considered By The Supreme Court Of Nigeria In “Exceptional Circumstances” Under The Nigerian Electoral Act Of 2022

- The Court Agreed With Atiku’s Lawyers And Further Added That Admissibility Is Not One Of The Tests Required To Order That Discovery And Whether Or Not The Supreme Court Accepts It, Does Not Even Come Into Consideration. The Consideration Is, If It Will Be Relevant ‘For Use’ To That Proceeding And The Applicant Has The Practical Ability To Inject The Requested Information Into A Foreign Proceeding. The Term ‘For Use’ Was Interpreted Ordinarily That The Requested Discovery Is ‘Something That Will Be Employed With Some Advantage Or Serve Some Use In The Proceeding.’ (Tsamani See Your Mate)
- The Court Gave BATMAN And His ROBINS A Further KNOCK On Their HEADS When It Disagreed With Their Argument That Atiku Is Not An Interested Party Because His Initial Electoral Petition Did Not Specifically Refer To BAT’s Qualification But Rather Was Raised In Atiku’s Reply. The Court Stylishly Departed From The Rigid Position Of Tsamani Holding That Even Though The Issue Was Introduced Late, It Qualifies As Having Been Introduced And Thus Atiku Qualifies As An Interested Party.

- The Court Noted It Had The Power Of Discretion On The Matter And Proceeded To Review The Amended Subpoena Of Atiku Which Now Had Four Narrowed Document Requests, Which Relate To The Two Different Versions Of BAT’s CSU Diplomas, That Had Been Presented To The Court (Documents That Purport To Be Dated June 22 And 27, 1979), Any Similar Diplomas Issued By CSU To Anyone Other Than BAT, And The Orr Documents Allegedly Certified By CSU’s Associate General Counsel, Jamar Orr, For Use By BAT In The Related Case Bought By Mr. Obi That Now Has Been Consolidated With Atiku’s Case. (PO Is Global!)

- The Court Further Reviewed Atiku’s Narrowed Request For The Deposition Under Oath Which Is Expected To Confirm (1) CSU’s Position On The Authenticity Of The Documents Produced In Response To The Application And How And Where CSU Located The Document; (2) CSU’s Position On The Authenticity Of Other CSU Documents Purportedly Produced By CSU And Used In Other Nigerian Proceedings; (3) The Contents Of The Westberg Affidavit; (4) CSU’s Position On The Authenticity Of The Westberg Letter, Including Who Requested The Letter, Who Prepared The Letter, And To Whom It Was Sent; And (5) CSU’s Position On The Authenticity Of The CSU Documents Certified By Orr And Other Facts Regarding Why The Documents Were Certified, If He Was Authorized To Do So, Who Requested The Documents, And To Whom They Were Sent. (Atiku Wants To Kill This BAT Pata Pata!

Page 2/2 This Right Here Is The Real Joker: It Has The Potential To Trigger A Federal Investigation (FBI) That Could Bring Sunlight To BAT’s Dreaded Vampire Records Hidden In Darkness. If CSU Dare Lie Under Oath, The Consequences Will Be DIRE And Could Bring Them To Their Knees. This Relationship Just Assumed A Vampire - Werewolf Dimension. They’ll Have To Protect Themselves First)

- BAT’s Lawyers Of Course Opposed The Oral Deposition By Citing Privacy Laws Which State That Educational Records Are Private And That Since CSU Already Submitted An Affidavit Confirming BAT Graduated In 1979, There Was No Need For A Deposition.

- The Court Held That BAT’s Lawyers Framing The Relevance Issue In This Manner Ignores A Central Tenet Of Atiku’s Application, Which Is Not Necessarily Whether BAT Attended CSU (Though That Is A Part Of Applicant’s Argument) But Whether The June 22, 1979 CSU Diploma That BAT Presented To The INEC Is An Authentic Copy Of BAT’s Actual Diploma Issued By CSU. (In Other Words Court Said That BAT’s Injustice League Are Trying To Be Technically Mischievous By Confusing Issues Tsamanni Style)

- With Respect To The Privacy Objections The Court Held That The FERPA Statute Does Not Create An Independent Privilege For Educational Records, But Instead Makes Educational Records Confidential. Disclosure Of Educational Records Is Permitted Under FERPA If It Is Necessary To Comply With A Lawfully Issued Subpoena Or Judicial Order And The Burden Is On The Party Requesting Educational Records To Show That Their Interest In Obtaining The Records Outweighs The Privacy Interest Of The Student.

- The Court Held That Atiku’s Interest In Obtaining BAT’s Records From CSU OUTWEIGHS BAT’s Privacy Rights Because BAT Put His Diploma At Issue By Submitting It To INEC. BAT Also Submitted Other Educational Documents In A Related Proceeding In Nigeria, Some Of Which Were Certified By A CSU Official, As Discussed Above. Atiku Therefore SATISFIED That Requirement!

- BAT’s Lawyers Also Objected To The Discovery On The Basis That It Would Place Too Much Burden On CSU But The Court Shut Them Up Stating That They Had No Standing (Locus) To Do That. CSU Is The Proper Party To Do That. (I LIKE THIS COURT O!)

- The Court Also Overruled CSU’s Objection Stating They Had Devoted Significant Time And Resources To The Case As Being Insufficient. CSU’s Preference On Written Instead Of Oral Deposition Was Also Overruled And The Court Highlighted CSU’s Did Not Justify The Need For The Court To Protect It With That Method And That An Oral Deposition Is The Most Effective Method To Obtain Information From A Deponent Under The Circumstances Of The Case.

- The Court Concluded By Ordering CSU To RELEASE ALL The Relevant Documents In 48 Hours And Deposition Should Take Place Immediately After Release Of The Documents. The Court Also Ordered Them To Work On Weekends If Necessary.

- 𝐌𝐘 𝐒𝖀𝐁𝐌𝐈𝐒𝐒𝐈𝐎𝐍: Judge Gilbert Ruled Using Solomonic Wisdom. The Oluwole Tactics And Agbero Technicalities Modus Operandi Of BAT And The Injustice League Spectacularly Failed In A Court Dedicated To Doing Substantive Justice.

Justice Was Done As Predicted And Truly And Indeed The US Judiciary Is A Leveler That Deserves Its Flowers.

Atiku Also Deserves His Flowers For Being A Dogged Fighter. Assuming Nigeria Was A Working Country, This Case Should Have Been Instituted By INEC Or PEPT But You Sef Know Say Injustice League Cannot Thrive In A Disinfected Environment, Avengers Full Ground. Perhaps We Should Canvass That American Judges Should Supervise Our Election Tribunals (Just kidding).

On A Serious Note, Our Judiciary Needs Serious Help, Reforms And Kight. We Just Witnessed Firsthand How A Sane Judiciary Operates And Could Reasonably Predict The Outcome Of A Case In Line With Justice And Justice Was Truly And Indeed Served.

-We Pin And Await The Surprises From The Documents That’ll Be Released From CSU

—God Bless The American Judiciary
By Miss Pearl
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by nairanaira12: 10:09pm On Sep 26, 2023
benuejosh:
I wonder what is the aim of the opposition in distracting our elected President from concentrating on governance and delivering the dividend of democracy that we all collectively voted him to deliver.

Allow the man to focus. Atiku you can NEVER be President of Nigeria. Allow the President to concentrate and work.

Nigerians, we are our own problem.

Tufiakwa!

Tinubu should explain why he is shielding his results and records from the public if he has nothing to hide.
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by stuffs2002: 10:17pm On Sep 26, 2023
DeTruthh:


The way you embrace and showcase stupidity really baffles me. You are calling someone ignorant and illiterate, yet you are ignorant of the fact that Tinubu, now a public office holder, has to make certain areas of his life public including his academic records. Just as we have in asset declaration.

You mustn't defend everything, you mustn't embrace stupidity.


IPOB cannibals are too dull

Where in our constitution is it stated that an elected officer is under obligation to make his academic records public

Your 3rd class Pandora criminal called Obi is yet to show us his worthless degree that he picked after his shameless 10 years in the university for a 4 year course.

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Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by olat70(m): 10:17pm On Sep 26, 2023
Which yeye group be this that think America na Nigeria
A thief will always think everyone else ba thief
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by stuffs2002: 10:18pm On Sep 26, 2023
nairanaira12:


Tinubu should explain why he is shielding his results and records from the public if he has nothing to hide.

IPOB are too dull.

Tinubu is exercising his constitutional right. The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) in the USA protects you and your academic records from strangers accessing your academic records.

You can't sue someone and expect him not to defend himself in court.

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Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by stuffs2002: 10:24pm On Sep 26, 2023
Chidibe212:


Osibanjo would have been a best bet to me even against Atiku and Obi


Osinbajo is a religious BIGOT and is not fit to lead a multi religious country like Nigeria

IIGB0S would still not have voted Osinbajo as long as he is not Igbo.

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Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by simfrost90210: 10:33pm On Sep 26, 2023
Goodvibes007:

Tinubu's admission letter confirmed his gender too.

MR Tinubu, Not Miss or Mrs Tinubu.

Then why's he delaying?
Let him allow Atiku to do all he is doing and go finally instead of perambulating anyhow.. haba
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by onuman: 10:33pm On Sep 26, 2023
If Tinubu pledges 20 years of Nigeria's crude oil to the American judges so that the judges give Tinubu a clean bill, Nigerians can not do anything because they opted to install a man as president when the election litigation is yet to be determined.
Nigeria's PEPT judges are smiling to the banks. Why will the American judges not smile as well?
Impossible country Nigeria may burn out every one in it.
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by onuman: 10:39pm On Sep 26, 2023
Kingosytex:
Everything about Tinubu is very shady. There's no straightforward record about him.


If not that it's like we have a Zoo Republic of Nigeria, judges in normal countries will definitely consider the too many scandals of Tinubu to sack him from the office of president of Nigeria.
But Nigerians watched all the years as Tinubu influenced the appointments of loads of the judges of the Upper courts in Nigeria today.
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by Exceed15: 10:41pm On Sep 26, 2023
benuejosh:
I wonder what is the aim of the opposition in distracting our elected President from concentrating on governance and delivering the dividend of democracy that we all collectively voted him to deliver.

Allow the man to focus. Atiku you can NEVER be President of Nigeria. Allow the President to concentrate and work.

Nigerians, we are our own problem.

Tufiakwa!

Gbenu e soun.
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by 7arrows: 10:43pm On Sep 26, 2023
Enice:
When the result is finally released, they will cry that it has been changed, if not why was Tinubu opposed to it being released. Then another wailing starts. We said it before, the wailing is for 8 years. 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

But if truly there's nothing to hide why all the court delays and pleading not to release anything? Please use ur common sense if you have any. Are you happy with The way things are goin in the country? Hope you know it's gonna get worse.
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by Exceed15: 10:47pm On Sep 26, 2023
[quoigte author=naturallysimple post=126038684]If you check the name of the leader of the so call group, you will know they have no substance, even Obama, Trump and Bush refuse court releasing their certificate in line with US Family act meaning "if you don't pay my school fees, you have no right to my credentials" They won't know this because they are filled with hatred, bunch of nuisance.[/quote]

Who knows you? Tinubu is now a public figure( president) hence Nigerians must know who he is. Those you mentioned did not forge result or school they graduated from unable to authenticate their results. Tinubu made too much noise about his academical excellence so why hiding it ?
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by Knetpro(m): 10:48pm On Sep 26, 2023
Before nkor!!!
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by 7arrows: 10:49pm On Sep 26, 2023
stuffs2002:


IPOB are too dull.

Tinubu is exercising his constitutional right. The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) in the USA protects you and your academic records from strangers accessing your academic records.

You can't sue someone and expect him not to defend himself in court.

Sometimes I wonder how much you are paid to be on this platform to defend useless lies that even yourselves laugh at.
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by Godanya: 10:49pm On Sep 26, 2023
Those who are defending Tinubu should tell us what he is hiding.

Honestly, even if the court refuses full disclosure, his reputation is damaged beyond repairs.
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by Lingudy(m): 10:51pm On Sep 26, 2023
Godanya:
Those who are defending Tinubu should tell us what he is hiding.

Honestly, even if the court refuses full disclosure, his reputation is damaged beyond repairs.
I don't know what is the big deal in allowing full disclosure
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by stuffs2002: 10:52pm On Sep 26, 2023
7arrows:


Sometimes I wonder how much you are paid to be on this platform to defend useless lies that even yourselves laugh at.


Must you disgrace yourself on a public forum?

Below is a US government link so that you may educate yourself.

https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/ferpa.html

Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by BabaO2: 11:00pm On Sep 26, 2023
Kingosytex:
Everything about Tinubu is very shady. There's no straightforward record about him.
Jonathan did samething in 2015. He blocked investigation on his PhD at uniport.
It is a normal thing, not even an individual atiku with 3months hygiene diploma certificate can be allowed to have access to another man's academic records.

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Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by BabaO2: 11:08pm On Sep 26, 2023
Chidibe212:


Osibanjo would have been a best bet to me even against Atiku and Obi
Abeegi, liar and hypocrite, you wouldn't have voted for osinbajo over obi.
Nothing in the case in US. Jonathan did samething in 2015 over his PhD. Good to frustrate semi illiterate atiku, nothing will come out of it

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Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by Horus(m): 11:08pm On Sep 26, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAOCqg17f-4?si=1FF0df8TLpoCFxyx

Tinubu Sending Emissaries To Atiku To Withdraw Court Case, Legitimacy Can't Be Bought Like Election
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by mipeesoft(m): 11:09pm On Sep 26, 2023
grin
Taylor92:
Imagine it was Obi that was under this identity crisis and certificate forgery


The attack wey them for attack us on Nairaland for echo

Tinubu you’re a very useless man
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by frankyychiji(f): 11:13pm On Sep 26, 2023
opamoses1:

What intelligence? Intelligence by whom? Is it FBI, CIA, MI5, The 5 eyes, DSS e.t.c ? Or is it IPOB intelligence?

More fake news grin grin grin
The intelligence is from your master AKA "fulaniherdsmen"
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by BabaO2: 11:14pm On Sep 26, 2023
*Atiku, Nigeria's serial presidential election loser since 1993, is now a CONFIRMED NUISANCE! Atiku did not start with Tinubu: this was Jonathan blocking the release of his results to the same Atiku*.....HAVE YOU SEEN OR HEARD THIS BEFORE...THINK DEEP RATHER BEING TOO SENTIMENTAL ABOUT PRIVACY.....

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Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by frankyychiji(f): 11:18pm On Sep 26, 2023
anonymous1759:
This people 2 muuumuu grin grin grin anyways people that believed buhari was cloned for years can almost believe anything to suit their battered EGO
The real buhari is dead and buried, deal with it.

A drug baron first class graduate from iragbiji is afraid of public scrutiny of his first class academic qualification.

Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by tiwasiaife(m): 12:20am On Sep 27, 2023
naturallysimple:
If you check the name of the leader of the so call group, you will know they have no substance, even Obama, Trump and Bush refuse court releasing their certificate in line with US Family act meaning "if you don't pay my school fees, you have no right to my credentials" They won't know this because they are filled with hatred, bunch of nuisance.


So anyone can submit tissue paper as certificate and no one should query him or her?
Why no support the National Assembly to make a Law that anybody can be president whether you have certificate or not.
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by eeetuk(m): 1:17am On Sep 27, 2023
“The statement reads: “Bola Tinubu and a well-known Lebanese merchant based in France met in Paris and recruited a powerful Jewish American lawyer and a known political lobbyist in Washington DC as a consultant to lobby the appeal judge to delay the judgment scheduled to be delivered either this Friday or Monday next week or to their favors.”

Bola Tinubu and his lawyers are wasting their time! Why? I don’t believe in one minute the US court system is going to allow its integrity to be influenced by money. The stake is too big in this case. The whole world is watching. And I don’t think Bola Tinubu has learned anything from what happened in James Ibori and Ekweremadu cases in the UK. The case involving Bola Tinubu and Atiku Abubakar is not a local issue to swept under the rug. No Sir! This has international implication. The bad news for Bola Tinubu is the judge sitting in this appeal process, Judge Nancy has said that she is a rule person. That means that if Bola Tinubu conduct in the Chicago state University violates the university rules, she would release all the documents Atiku Abubakar has requested.

As I had written before on the case, Atiku Abubakar has inside information into Bola Tinubu academic record before approaching the court. And here is what the judge said in ruling the case for Atiku Abubakar “Atiku’s application had merit and outweighed Tinubu’s plea of protection and privacy, Gilbert ordered that Tinubu’s record be released to confirm or dispute Atiku’s allegations.” That kind of statement by the judge is not going to be watered down by any court.

I had called for Bola Tinubu resignation to save Nigeria and Nigerians reputation. Nigeria is not for one person. It is for all Nigerians. If Bola Tinubu wants to put his personal ego above the integrity of Nigeria, it will be rejected, period.

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Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by Nobody: 1:45am On Sep 27, 2023
opamoses1:

What intelligence? Intelligence by whom? Is it FBI, CIA, MI5, The 5 eyes, DSS e.t.c ? Or is it IPOB intelligence?

More fake news grin grin grin

Those people and fake news are like 5 and 6. Even Tinubu saying they should hide his results is fake news. I mean why should a brilliant first class graduate be hiding his results? Don’t mind them jare

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Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by emorse(m): 2:23am On Sep 27, 2023
seunlayi:
I hope this is the last something like this will happen to this country. Imagine the international embarrassment this bringing on us?
This is just the beginning bro. We have set a precedent with this one.
Re: Tinubu CSU Records: Group Alleges Plot To Undermine Case Discovery by emorse(m): 2:37am On Sep 27, 2023
BabaO2:

Abeegi, liar and hypocrite, you wouldn't have voted for osinbajo over obi.
Nothing in the case in US. Jonathan did samething in 2015 over his PhD. Good to frustrate semi illiterate atiku, nothing will come out of it
He's actually right. Osinbajo had the highest profile and followership of the intended contestants before and during the APC primaries. Remember he declared his intention in a YouTube broadcast that was watched by quote a number of people. Obi was not even a name to reckon with at the time. Attention only shifted to Obi as a result of the disappointment in the outcome of the APC primaries and the lack of trust in an Atiku - led government. The idea that an Obi / Atiku merger would have produced a stronger movement is just a fallacy. Osinbajo would have been the man.

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