Inked_Nerd:

@OP: Simple answer! All it means is that the United States government is doing what it always does. Pretty soon the African nations will just be extended states of the United States. Look at how they are invading other countries trying to be the global police. It is nothing more than neo-imperialism. Let's be serious here, do any of you actually believe that the US gives a damn about other countries?!?! All the crap that the American government does, if you switch roles and have other countries apply the same tactics, then it suddenly becomes a problem. You all need to sit down and read "The Chomsky Reader" by Noam Chomsky!

teskyg:

Vanity upon vanity is equal to vanity.What has Ghadafi achieved?The fact that he provided all the social amenities to the citizens does not mean there are no any other person in Libya that can do same.

The main issue here is sight tight leaders.Most of the posters speaking in support of the tyrant called Ghadafi need to remember he ruled Libya as a personal empire where opposition where killed and imprison with impunity.

I disagree with the westernization theory been postulated by some of the posters on nairaland.NATO wouldn't have any reason to come into Libya if he has step them just like Mubarack did in Egypt.African leaders creates the opportunity for the west to come in, He should learn from the lessons of Saddam.

ogaju007:

Hmmn Food for thought. Ghadafi Ruled for 42 Years and that was his crime? I wonder what happens if pople start protesting about the monarchy in France and UK and they start having weapons as well? hmmmnnn

MsDarkSkin:

LOL it took me that long to focus on this topic? lol. watching too much CNN!

@ topic: this is a bitter sweet moment for africa.

It shows the consequence of trying to rule with harsh tactics regardless of how loved and respected one is. This also shows the importance of self reliance and awareness among African nations.

This was a man who "ruled with an iron fist". A man of his kind is not hard to find in prehistoric or present day Africa. Sadly these men who rule in such a way fail to realize the first man didn't last long, neither will they. [I see Cameroon being the next line of rebellion due to the pined up frustration of having a president who rules as dictator.] It's a brutal cycle that seems to continue BECAUSE a lot of Africans seem not to value the "history repeats itself" philosophy. So in the ensuing months or years of Gaddafi's death, I can guarantee that we will see political and ethnic killings throughout Libya because of one man's misjudgement and abandonment of original agendas.

This is nothing new to the African continent unfortunately however it can be curved. While I believe the method of rule exhibited by Gaddafi should have no place in Africa I will say that on the other hand, I think Africans should take to SOME of his ideologies.

Ghaddafi may not have necessarily WANTED African unity as much as he preached (or pretended to some) BUT the proposal is a good one. He preached he importance of trade and building relationships between the Africans nations AS WELL AS WITH the black countries in the west. Being Caribbean myself I think the idea to be fantastic. Africans and Caribbeans forming their own uniting of nations as we watch the power shift go east and imperialistic ideologies head eastward as well.  A lot of African countries are now dealing with China the way they did their European oppressors. What do I mean? Blacks have relied so heavily on Whites and Arabs to GIVE to us but in turn we don't DO FOR SELF. Now that China is gaining momentum, she is now looking at Africa.

With that said I think now MORE THAN ever, African leaders need to seriously rethink about how they are and plan to remain in power. Change up their strategies and think on a more democratic point of view. Africa won't get any better in a matter of days or few years. it will take decades to right the wrongs but the initiative needs to be taken now, so that Africa won't be the feature of CNN due to war and chaos but rather due because of upgrades and promise. Like Gaddafi showed in his final months, Africa won't be able to defend herself if her people are unhappy and conflicted.

So folks I do feel for him but I gotta take Gaddafi for what he was; a live reflection of and lesson to Africa. He served his purpose on Earth already which is why he is nolonger with us. He was to enlighten and lead by example when it comes to the pros and cons of self reliance or lack thereof. Now its time for African leaders to move smarter.

justwise:

I never had any reason to disagree with you since i joined this forum but i have one today. Why do we intend to blame the west when the going gets tough? Yes Gaddafi provided for his pple but at what cost? America did not start the trouble in Libya, America dragged their feet b4 even getting involved with NATO and that was when Arab league and the UN resolution was passed.
Our problem in Africa got little or nothing to do with the west, WE Africans are the problem, we are selfish, we are greedy, we are corrupt and power hungry. I did not like the way Gaddafi died after watching the raw video over and over again, i thought he should have been treated better but Gaddafi saw it coming, he locked up and killed his own people and the same treatment was served to him yesterday.

American interest obviously comes first in everything they do, when will Africa put the interest of Africans first before money?

brainpulse:

Nigerians are the only people on earth having SHORT MEMORY that is the reason why the leaders take undue advantage of them. We all know what Gadaffi tried doing to the whole Africa- wanting to create UNITED STATES OF AFRICA and where he will be the Leader. He planned Africa having her own Nuclear Bomb( and we all know what its for), and yet some brainless and senseless nigerians are praising him.
The same man equiped Abacha and sold armour tankers and weapons to Abacha to do what? Kill his fellow country men
Libyans are not coward nigerians, that a president will loot their treasury for years, kill human right activities a nd yet nigerians will organise 1 million man match for Gadaffi. Shameless B,a,s,tards without vision and ready to die in misery and penury why their leaders share all the luxuries. and yet sing of their praise.
This MAn killed several people and took advantage of them.
His Vision for his country was only for himself and families, it was not the west that won the battle nor killed gadafi it was the libyan people.
Your parents are in the village suffering, most of you in lagos and abroad during dirty jobs and our leaders are all in abuja sharing your resources and yet you organise crusades, revival, 24hrs praying meeting for suffering to go. Still our leaders are still in Abuja enjoying your prayers and monies and you are fasting and suffering. Nonsense people without head and VIsion= NIgerians.
STANDUP! STANDUP!! STANDUP for your right-Bob Marley

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Inked_Nerd:


Smh, so very true [bolded parts]

Ok, thank you for adding your two cents but when did I say that America was dragged into it? All I said was that America being involved is nothing more than neo-imperialism. Did I blame everyone in the west? No! But the main contenders in this new scramble for Africa are well known and we know what their interests in this conflict is. Let's not sit here and pretend that the US and many other western nations aren't playing puppet master with organizations like the United Nations and NATO. Do Africans need to help themselves, yes indeed but until we as a continent cease to continue sucking on the bosoms of the west, we will forever be enslaved to them. So for you to say that our problem have little nothing to do with them would be a complete denial of their incessant interference in the affairs of Africa. Do some research and you will see that the American government has at one was or another funded and fueled events that have happened in Africa. Even many of the American companies that we Africans have grown up with as children, many of them funded pro-apartheid movements in the past. Don't sit here and act like America and other wester nations don't have their hand in the pot! You saying that we are greedy gets us no where, if greedy is what we are then what do you call the United States their cohorts? Are they not the same as the people you say we are? Did they suddenly become compassionate, just, and peace loving individuals? Yes, I will admit as a continent, we need to get our act together but the sheepishly act as though they have played no role in our troubles would be a complete denial of African history as a whole.

It's true, America's got their hand in everyone pot and no one has the balls to say a damn thing! It's always one excuse after another

Naledi14:

The west, nato, call them what you want are systematicaly removing those who will pose a threat to thier NEW WORLD ORDER. Gadaffi is a great achievment for them its a damn shame i tell you. I cry for those praising his death  but the west knows that his revelations would have been much worse than those of charles taylor so his death was a must. I advise those who watch cnn bcc and the like to stop those are just propoganda machines.

saintohia:

Hold no a minute: before UN backed NATO invasion of Libya, is Nigeria (economy, standard of living, corruption level) better than Libya? The issue here is not how long he ruled but I think Libyans was still more comfortable (enjoyed more) than Nigerians.

I'm not a Gaddafi fan, but I would prefer Africans sort out their issues without involving the West because nothing good will ever manifest from Sodom. The Libyan story is not different from Iraq's , IS ALL ABOUT LIBYAN OIL. Very soon you'll start watching Ugandan scenario. They would always come up with propaganda in other to crash existing govt & intall their puppet.

But guyz don't you think Nigeria need to be Liberated of corrupt looters that term themselves learders?

brainpulse:

If you are a Good student of History and you listen to News very well. You will know that Libya also sign a treaty with UN to protect the rights of the people of Libya which Gadaffi was not during, therefore NATO under UN has fundamental right to protect  every citizen of the world that are being molested

Inked_Nerd:


I'm not asking of who got what first. It is not the subject matter at hand here. There is no way to ever stop blaming the west when the west is continuously sticking their business into our affairs and the affairs of others. Don't worry, soon enough you and every other African won't need to step a foot out of Africa in oder to get American citizenship.

Inked_Nerd:


Yes, of course you'd say that

Inked_Nerd:


Did you see me say that they should even come and donate or start charities? You're the one bringing this part up, not me. Stop acting like I mentioned them coming to recuse poor 'ol Africa because I said no such thing.