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Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Nobody: 8:50pm On Oct 21, 2011
I. It Is Right To Practice Biblical Judgment
One of the most misused verses in the Bible is, "Judge not, that ye be not judged" (Matt. 7: 1). Every Scripture verse should be read in its context, if we are to properly understand the true meaning. In vs. 2-5 of this same chapter it is evident that v. 1 is referring to hypocritical judgment. A brother who has a beam in his own eye should not be judging the brother who may have a mote in his eye. The lesson is plain, you cannot judge another for his sin if you are guilty of the same sin.

Those who cling to "Judge not, that ye be not judged, " to condemn those who expose error should read the entire chapter. Jesus said, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,  " (v. 15). How can we know false prophets unless we judge them by the Word of God? If we know the false prophets, how can we fail to exam the sheep of these "ravening wolves?" All through the Bible we find proof that they should be identified and exposed.

Those who are unwilling or incapable of discerning or judging between good and evil are in this manner revealing either their disobedience or their immaturity.

II. It Is Right To Expose False Teachers
False teachers are free to spread their poisonous doctrines today because there is a conspiracy of silence among many Bible believers. Wolves in sheep's clothing are thus enabled to ravage the flock, thereby destroying many.

John the Baptist called the Pharisees and Sadducees (the religious leaders of his day) "a generation of Vipers" (snakes) (Matt. 3:7). Today, he would be accused of being unloving, unkind, and unchristian.

Jesus said to the religious Pharisees, "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh" (Matt. 12:34). To many evangelicals and some fundamentalists, this would be unacceptable language today, but it is biblical language and it came from the mouth of the Son of God.

Standing face to face with these false teachers, Jesus Christ the Son of God, called them "hypocrites", "blind guides, " "blind, " "whited sepulchres, " "serpents, " and "ye generation of vipers" (Matt. 23:23-34). Yet, we are told today that we are to fellowship with men whose doctrines are just as unscriptural as those of the Pharisees.

In our day these false teachers have come into the churches with their books, music, literature, movies, psychology, and seminars, and have turned the Father's house into a den of thieves. It is time that men of God stand up and expose their errors for all to see.

The Bible Admonishes Us To Expose Error
We are to TRY them. "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits, whether they be of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world" (I John 4: 1). All doctrine and teachers are to be tried according to the Word of God. "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" (Isa. 8:20),

We are to MARK them and AVOID them. "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them " (Rom. 16:17). Those whose conduct and teaching contradicts the Word of God are to be marked and to be avoided.

We are to REBUKE them. "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith " (Titus 1: 13).

"Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers " (Titus 1:9).

We are to have NO FELLOWSHIP with them. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them " (Eph. 5:11). Reprove means to censure, condemn, find fault, rebuke, and to refute. How can we obey this Scripture unless we try them by the Word of God?

We are to WITHDRAW from them. "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which ye received of us " (II Thess. 3:6). We are to withdraw from those whose doctrine and conduct does not conform to the Word of God.

We are to TURN AWAY from them. Concerning the last days, he says that some will have "a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof. from such turn away" for such people are "never able to come to the knowledge of the truth" (11 Tim. 3:5,7). How can we turn away from them if we do not identify them, and this requires that their message be compared to the Word of God.

We are NOT to RECEIVE them into our house. "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds " (11 John 10, I 1). There is no doubt about who John is speaking about, it is " Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ,  " (v.9). By radio, TV, music and literature, false prophets are brought into the homes of many Christians today. Brethren, this ought not to be!

We are to REJECT HERETICS. "A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject " (Titus 3: 10). We should reject those who deny redemption by the blood of Christ. There are many who deny this or some other doctrine of the Word of God. If they will not respond to being admonished, then they are to be rejected.

We are to look out for those who preach another gospel. Paul warned about those who preached "another Jesus ,  another spirit ,  or another gospel" (II Cor. 11:4). How can we know them unless we judge their Jesus, their spirit, and their gospel by the Word of God? Paul called such preachers "false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ" (11 Cor. II: 13). He explains in v. 14-15 that these preachers are the ministers of Satan. The God-called man must be just as faithful today in exposing the ministers of Satan.


Paul warned the Galatians about those who "pervert the gospel of Christ." He also said, "If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." (See Gal. 1:6-9). Multitudes today are preaching a perverted gospel.


We are to SEPARATE from them. "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch no the unclean thing; and I will receive you " (II Cor. 6:17). This makes it plain. God's people are to come out of apostasy and religious error. How can any Bible believer remain in the National Council or World Council of Churches? How can they remain among compromising evangelicals and wishy-washy fundamentalists?

III. It Is Right To Name Names
Many mistakenly believe that it is wrong to expose error and to name the guilty teachers; but they are wrong according to the Bible.

Paul named Peter publicly. Peter was guilty of unscriptural practice. "But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed ,  But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of the Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?" (Gal. 2:11-14). T

Paul named Demas for loving the world. "For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world" (II Tim. 4:10). Those who forsake the cause of Christ for worldly living and pleasures should be named and exposed. (Christian Rock!)


Paul named Alexander the coppersmith. "Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil. the Lord reward him "cording to his works: Of whom be thou ware also, for he hath greatly withstood our words " (II Tim. 4:14-15). It is clear that this is not a personality problem, but a doctrinal problem. Alexander had withstood the words and doctrine of Paul. He was an enemy to the truth. Godly pastors face the same problem every day. They stand and proclaim the truth, then their members go home and hear this truth disputed by radio and TV preachers.

John named Diotrephes. "I wrote unto the church; but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not" (III John 9). He related how this man had prated against him "with malicious words " (v. 10). He further said, "Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God, but he that doeth evil hath not seen God " (v. I 1). It is not wrong to name those whose doctrine and practice is contrary to the Word of God.

In fact, the whole Bible abounds in examples of false prophets being named and exposed. All this modem day talk about love, used as an excuse for not exposing error, is not really biblical love but is really sloppy agape.

Moses called the name of Balaam. (See Num. 22-25). Peter exposed "the way of Balaam ,  who loved the wages of unrighteousness " (II Pet. 2:15). Balaam was a prophet that was in the work for money, just like some of the TV false prophets today. They beg for money and live like kings, while multitudes of innocent people send them their hard earned money. They are always building colleges, hospitals, TV network satellites, and amusement parks that have a water slide for Jesus. And then we are suppose to keep our mouth shut about these religious charlatans. How can we be silent and be true to God?


Jude exposed "the error of Balaam " (Jude I 1). John exposed "the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication " (Rev. 2:14). This gets right to the heart of the matter, concerning the doctrine of separation. Balaam never did curse Israel even though he wanted the wages that he was offered to do so. T

False teachers are breaking down the barrier of separation between God's people and false religion. There is too little preaching and teaching on the doctrine of separation. Balaam breached the doctrine of personal separation by causing the men of Israel to commit fornication with the Moabite women. He breached the doctrine of ecclesiastical separation by causing the men of Israel to bow down to Baal. This brought a curse upon Israel. Until we get back to teaching the truth about personal and ecclesiastical separation, we can expect the continued widespread havoc that we have today.

It seems to be believed by many that some people are too high and mighty to be named or exposed. Men in high places, pastors of large churches, and those with great radio or TV audiences, are supposedly above criticism. Whatever they may do or say, no matter how contrary to the Bible it may be, is supposedly all right. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Nathan identified the man. There was a man in a very high place who was a secret adulterer. Surely this man who held the highest office in the land could not be rebuked by a lowly unpopular prophet. Nathan went right into the presence of David, revealed the sin in a parable form, and then told the enraged David, "Thou art the man " (II Sam. 12:7).

http://www.av1611.org/crock/judbynum.html
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Joagbaje(m): 8:56pm On Oct 21, 2011
And what makes you think you're not the false teacher? Why do you think the other person is wrong and you are right ?
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Nobody: 9:01pm On Oct 21, 2011
Good question Jo.

I am open to correction 24/7.

Point out my false teaching ( by the way I am not a pastor ) and I will examine it in the light of GOD.

cool
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Nobody: 9:28pm On Oct 21, 2011
Where are my accusers

grin
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Joagbaje(m): 9:36pm On Oct 21, 2011
If you're open to discussion I will be back
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Jenwitemi(m): 10:31pm On Oct 21, 2011
Pastor Jo is about to expose apostle frosbel. This should be good. grin
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Joagbaje(m): 11:36pm On Oct 21, 2011
frosbel:

I. It Is Right To Practice Biblical Judgment
. The lesson is plain, you cannot judge another for his sin if you are guilty of the same sin.

God didn't say so.he says dont condemn at all . Don't judge another mans servant. And if you must correct a person, do it in love.

Galatians 6:1
1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.


Those who cling to "Judge not, that ye be not judged, " to condemn those who expose error should read the entire chapter. Jesus said, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,  " (v. 15). How can we know false prophets unless we judge them by the Word of God?

There is difference between judging a doctrine and judgin or condemning a man . we don't destroy we build . And thats if you are right to even start with. cool

If we know the false prophets, how can we fail to exam the sheep of these "ravening wolves?" All through the Bible we find proof that they should be identified and exposed.

Did bible didn't say so.

Those who are unwilling or incapable of discerning or judging between good and evil are in this manner revealing either their disobedience or their immaturity.

Correct

II. It Is Right To Expose False Teachers
False teachers are free to spread their poisonous doctrines today because there is a conspiracy of silence among many Bible believers. Wolves in sheep's clothing are thus enabled to ravage the flock, thereby destroying many.

If there's need for correction, there is a principle. GO TO HIM! Personally. Not in the Agora open market. Jesus feels it when we try to ridicule the body openly.

1 Corinthians 6:1
1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?. .
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers
.

When we take church Matters to open market . We ridicule the church before unbelievers . Innocent souks are wounded .Jesus didn't send us to pull out tares.

[b]Matthew 13:29-30[/b]
29 "He replied, 'No. If you pull out the weeds, you may pull out the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. When the grain is cut, I will tell the workers to gather the weeds first and tie them in bundles to be burned. But I'll have them bring the wheat into my barn.'"


John the Baptist called the Pharisees and Sadducees (the religious leaders of his day) "a generation of Vipers"

Jesus said to the religious Pharisees, "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things?

Jesus and John were Gods prophet to israel. They function in an office.

The Bible Admonishes Us To Expose Error

What is your definition of "exposure"?

We are to TRY them.
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits, whether they be of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world"

What's your definition of false prophet .read that verse again.

1 John 4:2-3
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.


Now the people you label as false ,do they fall short of this verse? Do they confess that Jesus is not come in the flesh?

There are several things you're mixing up here.

We are to MARK them and AVOID them. "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them " (Rom. 16:17). Those whose conduct and teaching contradicts the Word of God are to be marked and to be avoided.

We are to REBUKE them. "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith " (Titus 1: 13).

"Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers " (Titus 1:9).

We are to WITHDRAW from them. "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which ye received of us " (II Thess. 3:6). We are to withdraw from those whose doctrine and conduct does not conform to the Word of God.

These were instructions to leadership of the churches. A leader has authority to enforce discipline under his jurisdiction.

III. It Is Right To Name Names
Many mistakenly believe that it is wrong to expose error and to name the guilty teachers; but they are wrong according to the Bible.

Paul named Peter publicly. Peter was guilty of unscriptural practice. "But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed ,  But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of the Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?" (Gal. 2:11-14).

Paul was an apostle and a pastor over a people. He had authority to protect his sheep because Peter came to do this error in his church.

Paul named Demas for loving the world. "For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world" (II Tim. 4:10). Those who forsake the cause of Christ for worldly living and pleasures should be named and exposed. (Christian Rock!)

Did he carry it to the market place to discuss? He wrote to Timothy. It's still within the church


Paul named Alexander the coppersmith. "Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil. the Lord reward him "cording to his works: Of whom be thou ware also, for he hath greatly withstood our words " (II Tim. 4:14-15). It is clear that this is not a personality problem, but a doctrinal problem. Alexander had withstood the words and doctrine of Paul. He was an enemy to the truth. Godly pastors face the same problem every day. They stand and proclaim the truth, then their members go home and hear this truth disputed by radio and TV preachers.

Who did paul write to? Sahara reporters? Church matters are settled in the church . Thats what the bible teaches.we don't take laws Into our hands.

Pls don't get me wrong because I know some people will soon come and say joagbaje is advocating we should keep quiet . That's far from it.

Firstly separate people from what you assume as their offence. I read aletheia calling image123 false teacher or so just because the guy says he believes Christians are not to take alcohol. These things are wrong. You don't label a man for his belief He has his reason and point. Even if what he believes is wrong. It is the doctrine you should be debating . Not the individual. The second part is the question : what makes you think you are the one that is correct. It is 50/50 maybe you're right , maybe you're wrong . Why not discussion a civic way. Deal with topic rather Than labelling people. Supposing you're wrong in the labelling then you have sinned. I don't believe a woman needs to cover hair . But I shouldn't label such churches as false. You may not believe in prosperity but don't label those who do as false.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by plappville(f): 8:38pm On Oct 22, 2011
@Frosbel, i dont know if it's right or wrong to exposed them, but i know the scripture warned us to beware of them.

This verse is for the church.(1 Corinthians 5:13) God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, "You must remove the evil person from among you.

If the church be silent in certain matters, the whole congregation will perish and God may not dwell in a place like that. So we ve to do some face to face rebuking. It works and does restor the church.

If there's need for correction, there is a principle. GO TO HIM!  Personally. Not in the Agora open market. Jesus feels it when we try to ridicule the body openly.
He has a point, agreed.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Enigma(m): 9:01pm On Oct 22, 2011
^^^ Please beware of those people saying "Go to him"; they are usually part of the fraudulent conspiracy or hoping to benefit from it.

In this situation, the most important thing is not really to "go to" the fraudulent wolves in sheep clothing; the most important thing is to warn the sheep that they may lead astray and devour.

So please beware of those manipulating scriptures; the "go to him" manipulation can be as bad and as dangerous as the "touch not (the) anointed" manipulation. Each is based on misinterpretation and manipulation of scriptures.

PS ask Joagbaje who is a state pastor in Chris Embassy what access he has to Oyakhilome that even he can "go to him".

smiley
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Joagbaje(m): 9:11pm On Oct 22, 2011
plappville:

@Frosbel, i dont know if it's right or wrong to exposed them, but i know the scripture warned us to beware of them.

My question is :what forms his standard of calling someone false prophet? The people being called false prophets are not prophets to start with. They are pastors . A pastor is over a congregation. The bible didn't teach on false pastors . So much ignorance is being displayed here. What have they prophesied. The bible gives the standard to identify such .

"You must remove the evil person from among you.

The church has power to excommunicate an unruly person. But such is done within the church
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Nobody: 10:00pm On Oct 22, 2011
Joagbaje:

My question is :what forms his standard of calling someone false prophet? The people being called false prophets are not prophets to start with. They are pastors . A pastor is over a congregation. The bible didn't teach on false pastors . So much ignorance is being displayed here. What have they prophesied. The bible gives the standard to identify such .

The church has power to excommunicate an unruly person. But such is done within the church



Funny !

There are false teachers, false prophets and false apostles and false brethren.

It's in the bible , read it up.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by aletheia(m): 10:07pm On Oct 22, 2011
@Joagbaje:

You snake! Why do you mention my name on this thread? Did I address you here?
Joagbaje:

I read  aletheia calling image123 false teacher or so just because the guy says he believes Christians are not to take alcohol.

The reasons for calling him that then are well stated in the relevant post:
aletheia:

I am going to use strong language for you. . .because you boldly and barefacedly persist in your lies. You are a false teacher who is too lazy to even check the bible verses you claim that support your lies and who tries to change the meanings of words.
Image123 link=topic=686684.msg8507244#msg8507244 date=1307920041:

The Numbers 6 in my Bible give different things a nazarite was to separate from(i.e everything related to grape), not a distinction of alcoholic beverages.
This is what Numbers 6:2 says:
Num 6:3 He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.

Image123:

to intoxicate is to fill or soak. That it's often linked to alcohol doesn't mean that it always should be alcohol as is clear. In this case, you can be full with food or water.
^
in·tox·i·cate
1 : poison
2a : to excite or stupefy by alcohol or a drug especially to the point where physical and mental control is markedly diminished
2b : to excite or elate to the point of enthusiasm or frenzy

Does intoxicate mean to fill or soak? Your lies mount up.

Image123:

Who says its not forbidden by God, are you aware of the passages that speak against wine or do i begin to lay them out.
^
Please do lay out for us to see the passages that forbid drinking wine. Note I do not ask for passages that condemn drunkenness (because those are the ones that you will produce). If you cannot produce just one bible verse that forbids drinking of wine (even in Num 6:20 the Nazarites were permitted to drink wine); then it is proven that you are a lying false teacher!

Image123:

Is DRINKING alcohol for pleasure an appearance of evil?
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You are no Apostle. Was God promoting an appearance of evil when he commanded:
Deut 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
Or when Jesus changed water into wine?

Image123:

John was on a vow from birth. It's not an indictment on Jesus as an alcoholic. Jesus did not take fermented/old wine. Its not in the scriptures. What He took was grape juice, which was also called new wine. It's a world away from what we compare today, our champagne, ale and lager beer. You and your kind of doctrine are influencing the drinking habit of millions of people around the world, and it's on the negative. People are picking up their vintages and 10-20%s, their gins and spirits, and destroying themselves and their families. i'm also on the look out for those people who drink and don't get drunk.
^
How silly you are, grasping at straws and propping up straw men. Who here says Jesus was an alcoholic? In all ages people have always drunk alcohol. Did Noah need any doctrine to get drunk? Sinful men will find occasion for sin and it is the power of Christ that gives the victory not your silly and unbiblical injunctions.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Joagbaje(m): 10:30pm On Oct 22, 2011
^^^^
Everybody is false except you . What is eating you up is from inside dear.

aletheia:

@Joagbaje:
You snake!

Pzzzzzz. . . . . Ssssssss. . . . grin grin grin
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Joagbaje(m): 10:32pm On Oct 22, 2011
frosbel:

Funny !

There are false teachers, false prophets and false apostles and false brethren.
It's in the bible , read it up.

I'm aware. But the people you're attacking are pastors, not prophets. But you label prophets to fulfil your hate.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by plappville(f): 7:48am On Oct 23, 2011
Joagbaje:

I'm aware. But the people you're attacking are pastors, not prophets. But you label prophets to fulfil your hate.

This thread does not look attacking or hate. Come to think of it, We are all christians discussing important matters to help the church. Why do u ve to take it as hate?
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by PastorKun(m): 7:53am On Oct 23, 2011
Dis joagbaje is a real dunce angry why are you so desperate to defend your fellow fraudsters? Are you now implying that becos the term false pastor was not expressly stated in the bible that there are no false pastors today?
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by wetu: 7:56am On Oct 23, 2011
Joagbaje:

I'm aware. But the people you're attacking are pastors, not prophets. But you label prophets to fulfil your hate.

A prophet is someone who speaks on behalf of someone else. Those pastors speak of behalf of God. They say:

God wants you to
God wants to bless you.
If you do this, God will do that.

They receive revelations from God.
Therefore the scriptures that apply to prophets apply to them.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by wetu: 7:58am On Oct 23, 2011
Pastor Kun:

Dis joagbaje is a real dunce angry why are you so desperate to defend your fellow fraudsters? Are you now implying that becos the term false pastor was not expressly stated in the bible that there are no false pastors today?

Maybe it's more biblical to call them thieves and robbers?

Joh 10:8  All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
Joh 10:9  I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
Joh 10:10  The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
Joh 10:11  I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Joh 10:12  But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.


Those who refuse to warn the sheep about those thieves and robbers are: hirelings
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Kx: 11:13am On Oct 24, 2011
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Orikinla(m): 11:29am On Oct 24, 2011
ONLY A TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN DO SO AND NOT A FAKE OR FALSE CHRISTIAN AND 99.99% OF THE CHURCH GOERS CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIANS IN NIGERIA ARE NOT TRUE CHRISTIANS IF YOU SHOULD USE WHAT THEY DO INDOORS AND OUTDOORS TO EVALUATE THEM.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Ojukwu24(m): 12:42pm On Oct 24, 2011
Orikinla:

ONLY A TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN DO SO AND NOT A FAKE OR FALSE CHRISTIAN AND 99.99% OF THE CHURCH GOERS CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIANS IN NIGERIA ARE NOT TRUE CHRISTIANS IF YOU SHOULD USE WHAT THEY DO INDOORS AND OUTDOORS TO EVALUATE THEM.


If I may ask, who is a good/true christain? What makes someone Christain? How can u say 99.9%,how many persons do you know.

@Topic; I think exposing,correcting and all u want to call should be done with wisdom. Learn to follow the spirit of God in u and u will know wede to do the 'go to him type' or not. One reason why we are told to beware of them is that they don't convince us to join them.

Talking about some one being a Pastor n not Prophet, who is a Pastor? Does it mean a Pastor can not Prophesy? Abeg let find time to study d scriptures and leave arguments. I rest my case.oin them.

Talking about some one being a Pastor n not Prophet, who is a Pastor? Does it mean a Pastor can not Prophesy? Abeg let find time to study d scriptures and leave arguments. I rest my case.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Nobody: 12:47pm On Oct 24, 2011
1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

We have to expose them, but we have to do that not before the ungodly!
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Rogbodiyan: 1:01pm On Oct 24, 2011
Gentlemen, pls stop arguing with jogbaje. He is indeed a christ embassy pastor based in the Niger delta (I know him personally) and he will never agree with anyone that talks against the wanton display of wealth by some men of GOD. Jo quit coming here to defend what is indefensible, read through all the words of christ in red and be set free!
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Joagbaje(m): 1:14pm On Oct 24, 2011
East:

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
We have to expose them, but we have to do that not before the ungodly!

We must follow scriptures. God will not hold these critics gutless for the blood of any unsaved person who's heart get harddend against the gospel by the reason of their attacks
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by highland(m): 1:16pm On Oct 24, 2011
Yes. They should be exposed to curb the emergence of false teaching
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Nobody: 1:17pm On Oct 24, 2011
East:

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

We have to expose them, but we have to do that not before the ungodly!





Wow , wrong again.

Please put things in the right perspective.

This was in reference to brothers and or sisters who had some issues with a fellow church member and took them to court rather than settle it between themselves.

Even Muslims and atheists on this forum have quoted bible to expose these false teachings.

God talked about it in the bible , Jesus talked about it. Anyone who reads the prophets in the bible will come across more scathing and harsh rebukes from the MOG against false shepherds and teachers.

It's there for all to see, why hide it.

Are we in a secret society or what  
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:30pm On Oct 24, 2011
Joagbaje:

^^^^
Everybody is false except you . What is eating you up is from inside dear.

Pzzzzzz. . . . . Ssssssss. . . . grin grin grin

Beware of Vipers
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by executinal(m): 1:39pm On Oct 24, 2011
Say the truth and the truth shall set you free. Whether false prophet or real prophet, non of them will convince me to drop my hard earned money as a tithe to them. I only help the poor and beggars that need my money most and not those that have enriched themselves from one means or other. It is just a pity that in Nigeria the so called man of GOD don't know what Christianity is all about. In Europe for example, after church service, members of the church eat and chart together and discourse basic problems with each other. Twice in a month the church provide basic things to people that are in need, for eg,foods, medical treatments etc  free. Even one Nigeria church is now doing that were i am right now (RCCG), because with out being told, they will loose all their members to other foreign church. The question now is, if other foreign church should do all this, why can't Nigeria church equally do the-same??. People should wake up and condemn what is wrong. Anybody can pay tithe, but for me i don't pay and GOD always bless me more.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by newmi(m): 2:15pm On Oct 24, 2011
,As Christians we should as a matter of truth be able to judge what is right from what is wrong because the bible says in Hebrews 5:14
"But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age,[ even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil"
Even Jesus himself speaking to the religious leaders and scribes. and to the world at large becos
John 7:24
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. ,
Question: What is this righteous judgement?
It a judgement based on the tenants. and ddictates of the WORD OF God.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by Joagbaje(m): 2:33pm On Oct 24, 2011
newmi:

John 7:24
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. ,
Question: What is this righteous judgement?
It a judgement based on the tenants. and ddictates of the WORD OF God.

judgement has Three meanings. If God wants us to judge, he's talking about discernment.

If a man believes he has truth he should simply make the truth known. You expose lie by telling truth. Not by cursing . I don't have to curse darkness ,I should simply turn on the light . By turning on light I will expose darkness and it will flee. But people mostly criticise what they know not. For the fact that you're not perfect ,you ought to take it easy , because your assumptionmsy just be wrong and it becones a sin against you. Those who criticised Jesus were very sure he was a fake. We should present our matters in humility so that when you realise your error there is room to learn. But when you start shooting . When you realise your error,pride may nit allow you to admit.
Re: Is It Right for a Christian to Expose False Prophets and False Teaching ? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:49pm On Oct 24, 2011
Expose every work of darkness, Shine the Light!

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