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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by EmirofAfonjaz: 8:44pm On Oct 16, 2023
We dont want a useless relationship with you cunnts...
e be like say DAY don come for your eyes.

post NNAMDI KANU DOCTORED VIDEO AGAIN NA!!

FULANI SLAVE..
cheesy

Christistruth00:


Let us tell you something

The Ijebu,Ilaje,Owu,Akoko,Ekiti,Ijesha Yorubas
are all of Ancient Igbo heritage

Many of the descendants of the Igbos Oduduwa met in Ife are still there in the Obawirin Quarters of Ife
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by EmirofAfonjaz: 8:46pm On Oct 16, 2023
A Fulani in Kwara Seats on the throne of an OBA!! cheesy

Christistruth00:


Lol !
You are even mixing up Fulani with Yoruba Muslims

Kwara has always had Yoruba Governors who are free to remove any Traditional Ruler that misbehaves
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by forgiveness: 8:50pm On Oct 16, 2023
Elose11:

Oduduwa was a crown prince in Benin. He had issue with some Benin chiefs and was set up to be killed. Those that were to kill him sets him free outside Benin, and told him never to come back. It is while running for his life that he came to Ile Ife. Ile Ife people recognized the royalty in him and made him their king. After many years, the Benin heard he was alive when there was a succession issue in Benin. So they sent their chiefs to Ile Ife to convince him to come back to Benin and take over the throne of his late father. Not trusting them because of his past experiences, he refused to go back with them and rather sent his youngest son Oramiyan to rule Benin in his place.
So you can see that it was Benin that introduced their monarchy to Ile Ife and not the other way round

What is Oduduwa's father's name?

How come Yoruba became the official language in the Benin palace from the day Oduduwa grandson arrived?

Why did the Ogiso changed to Oba from the rule of Oranmiya?

Why is the name of your Oba Yoruba names from Oranmiyan to Eweka etc?

Why did the town name changed from Igodomigodo name to Ilu Ibinu now knownas Benin? grin

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by forgiveness: 8:52pm On Oct 16, 2023
EmirofAfonjaz:
We dont want a useless relationship with you cunnts...
e be like say DAY don come for your eyes.

post NNAMDI KANU DOCTORED VIDEO AGAIN NA!!

FULANI SLAVE..
cheesy


I learnt Igbo was derived from Awon ti Igbo (forest). No bi me talk am ooo.

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by Elose11(m): 8:53pm On Oct 16, 2023
forgiveness:


Benin borrowed monarchy system of government from Oduduwa.

Now, answer. What is the name of Oduduwa father in Benin since you claimed he came from Benin? grin
The name of the father of Oduduwa was Ogiso Owodo. The last Ogiso of Igodomigodo, the name Benin was known then.
Benin did not borrow monarchy from Oduduwa. Oduduwa, a Benin prince, was already trained in art of statecraft before he was banished from Benin.
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by EmirofAfonjaz: 8:53pm On Oct 16, 2023
Cry blood...everybody HATEs you cunnts cheesy

forgiveness:


I learnt Igbo was derived from Awon ti Igbo (forest).

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by forgiveness: 8:58pm On Oct 16, 2023
Elose11:

The name of the father of Oduduwa was Ogiso Owodo. The last Ogiso of Igodomigodo, the name Benin was known then.
Benin did not borrow monarchy from Oduduwa. Oduduwa, a Benin prince, was already trained in art of statecraft before he was banished from Benin.

Benin borrowed monarchy from Ife. Bead everything.

Do you know the meaning of Dynasty?

Continuation of line of hereditary from one lineage to another but unfortunately the Ogiso dynasty ended with Owodo.

Obaship dynasty in Benin began from the new lineage of Oduduwa.

Owodo no bi Oduduwa father. Stop deceiving yourself in Benin. Lamurudu was his father's name.

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by illicit(m): 9:10pm On Oct 16, 2023
Christistruth00:


Let us tell you something

The Ijebu,Ilaje,Owu,Akoko,Ekiti,Ijesha Yorubas
are all of Ancient Igbo heritage

Many of the descendants of the Igbos Oduduwa met in Ife are still there in the Obawirin Quarters of Ife

Bros

How is Ekiti a descendant of Igbo

Please enlighten me
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by Christistruth00: 9:49pm On Oct 16, 2023
Oduduwa was born in Yorubaland
but seemed to often Travel to Borno and Sudan to fight Wars against the Jihadists he appeared to have Nupe and Borno relatives across the Niger

Prof Akinbanji did the research and wrote it in his book of Yoruba History
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by spearman(m): 10:00pm On Oct 16, 2023
forgiveness:


If Oduduwa was from Benin, why did Benin send emissaries to Oduduwa to replicate the system of monarchy rule in Ile Ife?

What was his father's name in Benin? grin

From Ikaladerhan to Oduduwa: The Story of a Prince of Benin

Eweka I & the beginning of Oba Era {About 1200AD-1235AD} After the banishment of Owodo; the last Ogiso under the {Ogiso periods} for misrule Evain who had earlier distinguished himself as a brave man by destroying the man-eating Osogan, wasappointed as an adminstrator who ruled Benin for nearly 40 years. At his old age, Evian nominated his son Ogiamien as a successor. Unfortunately, this nomination did not go well with the Edo people who maintained that succession to the the throne is always applicable to kings and not to commoners to which class Evian belonged.

Spear headed by Oliha, there was a serious agitation to bring back the monarch.The nation was thrown into a state of internecine war and as a way out the elders {led by Oliha} went on a search party to look for Ikaladerhan {the banished son of the last Ogiso Owodo} who had for some time taken refuge at Uhe {or Ife as is now known}.

The search party reached Uhe to meet Ikaladerhan already enjoying the status of a king. The Edo people could not persuade him to return home. Nevertheless he Ikaladerhan now known as Oduduwa agreed to send his son if only the Benin could take care of him. This is how Oduduwa sent his Grandson Oranmiyan to Benin.

To test whether the Edo people would care for their king, Oduduwa gave the Edo people three years to nurse the common louse. On their success, the great Oduduwa was convinced that the people really would care for their king.

Oranmiyan was thereafter sent to Benin in 1170AD. He came into Benin amidst the serious opposition of Ogiamien who refused him entry into the city which was still under the firm grip of his administration. Oranmiyan was therefore forced to settle at Usama which was an outskirt of the city State . There he remained under the political support of the elders {Edion} headed by chief Oliha. Oranmiyan had both language and cultural handicaps because of his Yoruba backgrounds.

Although he had a Benin father {Ikaladerhan} yet he was really born and bred in yoruba land which was then the adopted kingdom, a refugee prince who had now found a new home at Ife. When Oranmiyan could neither speak nor understand the Benin custom, Unable to bear the animosity for very long renounced his position and labeled Edo land [Benin kingdom] lle Ibinu meaning land of annoyance and vexation and declared that only a child of the soil educated in the culture and tradition of the land could rule the kingdom. He thereafter returned to Uhe{IIe Ife}

On his way back home he stopped briefly at Ego where he impregnated princess Erimwinde the daughter of the Enogie of
Ego who bear him a son. In his early years couldn’t talk when his father who by now established the Alafin dynasty in Oyo had of his son
predicament, sent his son’s mother Ehendiwo seven marbles. While playing this marbles with other children one of his throws hit the target in excitement screamed Owomika {I have succeeded} which was Corrupted into Eweka.

For a period of over 30 years, the administration of Benin City was virtually in the hands of Ogiamien family until1200 AD when the "Boy-King" Eweka I as a young king ruled the kingdom with the assistance of his maternal grandfather Ogiegor. Oba Eweka I started the reign of the Obas. Hitherto, the kings were known as Ogiso but when Eweka I came as a king, he was referred to as Oba. The word Oba meaning is probably from an abbreviation of the original name of the first Ogiso {Obagodo {Oba godo}-Oba king; godo-high : High King}. The word came into use as connoting kingship during Oba Eweka I in 1200 AD. Oba Eweka reigned for 35 years at his demise , his rival children ruled in succession.

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by APCNig: 10:10pm On Oct 16, 2023
Elose11:

We have told them severally that their Oduduwa was a Benin prince. Oba of Benin and Oba of Lagos told them on severally fora. They were vilified and called names. Now one of there own have echoed it. Will my Yoruba brothers listen?


Whatever you are smoking, stop it before you run nakked into the market
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by APCNig: 10:11pm On Oct 16, 2023
EmirofAfonjaz:
How can a Race that claims to be sophisticated, not have a concise history of their ancestry?

This is very RONUlessly foolish

Anyway...I know that Oduduwa was chased from heaven and fell down. Oduduwa is the DEVIL
grin.


Now I know why there is generationally inherited madness in your family
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by forgiveness: 10:20pm On Oct 16, 2023
spearman:


From Ikaladerhan to Oduduwa: The Story of a Prince of Benin

Eweka I & the beginning of Oba Era {About 1200AD-1235AD} After the banishment of Owodo; the last Ogiso under the {Ogiso periods} for misrule Evain who had earlier distinguished himself as a brave man by destroying the man-eating Osogan, wasappointed as an adminstrator who ruled Benin for nearly 40 years. At his old age, Evian nominated his son Ogiamien as a successor. Unfortunately, this nomination did not go well with the Edo people who maintained that succession to the the throne is always applicable to kings and not to commoners to which class Evian belonged.

Spear headed by Oliha, there was a serious agitation to bring back the monarch.The nation was thrown into a state of internecine war and as a way out the elders {led by Oliha} went on a search party to look for Ikaladerhan {the banished son of the last Ogiso Owodo} who had for some time taken refuge at Uhe {or Ife as is now known}.

The search party reached Uhe to meet Ikaladerhan already enjoying the status of a king. The Edo people could not persuade him to return home. Nevertheless he Ikaladerhan now known as Oduduwa agreed to send his son if only the Benin could take care of him. This is how Oduduwa sent his Grandson Oranmiyan to Benin.

To test whether the Edo people would care for their king, Oduduwa gave the Edo people three years to nurse the common louse. On their success, the great Oduduwa was convinced that the people really would care for their king.

Oranmiyan was thereafter sent to Benin in 1170AD. He came into Benin amidst the serious opposition of Ogiamien who refused him entry into the city which was still under the firm grip of his administration. Oranmiyan was therefore forced to settle at Usama which was an outskirt of the city State . There he remained under the political support of the elders {Edion} headed by chief Oliha. Oranmiyan had both language and cultural handicaps because of his Yoruba backgrounds.

Although he had a Benin father {Ikaladerhan} yet he was really born and bred in yoruba land which was then the adopted kingdom, a refugee prince who had now found a new home at Ife. When Oranmiyan could neither speak nor understand the Benin custom, Unable to bear the animosity for very long renounced his position and labeled Edo land [Benin kingdom] lle Ibinu meaning land of annoyance and vexation and declared that only a child of the soil educated in the culture and tradition of the land could rule the kingdom. He thereafter returned to Uhe{IIe Ife}

On his way back home he stopped briefly at Ego where he impregnated princess Erimwinde the daughter of the Enogie of
Ego who bear him a son. In his early years couldn’t talk when his father who by now established the Alafin dynasty in Oyo had of his son
predicament, sent his son’s mother Ehendiwo seven marbles. While playing this marbles with other children one of his throws hit the target in excitement screamed Owomika {I have succeeded} which was Corrupted into Eweka.

For a period of over 30 years, the administration of Benin City was virtually in the hands of Ogiamien family until1200 AD when the "Boy-King" Eweka I as a young king ruled the kingdom with the assistance of his maternal grandfather Ogiegor. Oba Eweka I started the reign of the Obas. Hitherto, the kings were known as Ogiso but when Eweka I came as a king, he was referred to as Oba. The word Oba meaning is probably from an abbreviation of the original name of the first Ogiso {Obagodo {Oba godo}-Oba king; godo-high : High King}. The word came into use as connoting kingship during Oba Eweka I in 1200 AD. Oba Eweka reigned for 35 years at his demise , his rival children ruled in succession.

Mr man, what is the name of Oduduwa father?

The person before Oduduwa was Obantala. grin

Notice the prefix Oba. He ruled as a king long before Oduduwa ever came from Oke Ore. You don't know his father's name. grin

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by EmirofAfonjaz: 10:22pm On Oct 16, 2023
Bukola!!!!!!!!.........Sir

Bring bucket for this your brother. He is crying EVERYWHERE!! cheesy



APCNig:



Now I know why there is generationally inherited madness in your family
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by Christistruth00: 10:27pm On Oct 16, 2023
forgiveness:


If Oduduwa was from Benin, why did Benin send emissaries to Oduduwa to replicate the system of monarchy rule in Ile Ife?

What was his father's name in Benin? grin



Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is

Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).

(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)
( please carefully Note that they never called him the Son of "Ekaladeran or Izoduwa of Igodomigodo anywhere O! )

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila

(Oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title)


So with your own mouth you have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed your case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son

There is nothing left to drag because it is settled
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by veraponpo(m): 10:37pm On Oct 16, 2023
Elose11:

We have told them severally that their Oduduwa was a Benin prince. Oba of Benin and Oba of Lagos told them on severally fora. They were vilified and called names. Now one of there own have echoed it. Will my Yoruba brothers listen?

This cannot be true because the first King in Benin is Oranmiyan, the youngest grand son of Oduduwa. Oduduwa had only one child called Okanbi. Okanbi had 7 children who later scattered and formed their of kingdoms. Olowu of Owu (Owu has spread into all the states of Nigeria today; Onisabe of Sabe (Benin republic); Onipopo of Popo; Orangun of Ila, and Oranmiyan who was the greatest. Three of them are currently in other Nations of Africa, Republic of Benin- Alaketu of Ketu and Onisabe of Sabe while Onipopo is in Togo.

Every Oba of Benin must pay homage to Oranmiyan because they are direct descendant of Oranmiyan including the current Oba of Benin.

Oranmiyan was the only king that ruled in 3 different major cities: Oyo where he conquered territories and nations up to Dahomey in the present Cotonou.

He ruled in Benin City and was the first crowned King there.

He ruled and died in Ile Ife and his staff is there till date.

So, how can your story be true if the first King of Benin was the grandson of Oduduwa? This is the fact, you may want to ask your King.

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by forgiveness: 10:44pm On Oct 16, 2023
Christistruth00:




Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is

Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).

(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)



Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila


oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title


So with your own mouth you have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed your case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son

There is nothing left to drag because it is settled


So your brain didn't tell you Oranmiyan the first Oba of Benin was the grandson of Oduduwa in Ile Ife?

Why not from Igodomigodo since you assume he came from there? grin

Now, what is the name of Oduduwa's father? grin
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by forgiveness: 10:52pm On Oct 16, 2023
Honestly speaking, every human being has one father. grin na language different. grin

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by Benwallt(m): 10:57pm On Oct 16, 2023
Everybody is telling history this days
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by Christistruth00: 11:04pm On Oct 16, 2023
forgiveness:



So your brain didn't tell you Oranmiyan the first Oba of Benin was the grandson of Oduduwa in Ile Ife?

Why not from Igodomigodo since you assume he came from there? grin

Now, what is the name of Oduduwa's father? grin

Lamurudu

I was revealing the lies to you

Somebody claimed Oduduwa was his Son only to accept Praises describing Oduduwa as his Father
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by forgiveness: 11:05pm On Oct 16, 2023
Christistruth00:


Lamurudu

Very good. Was he from Igodomigodo?
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by Christistruth00: 11:07pm On Oct 16, 2023
forgiveness:


Very good. Was he from Igodomigodo?

I was showing the Benin their lies that the Oba Of Benin's praise names busted

What was Oduduwa's Business with Igodomigodo when he had his hands full with Ile Ife

He was Probably even sitting down eating his hot Millet Pap and Akara Jejely wandering what Oranmiyan was up to and how to keep him busy when the Benin's arrived demanding for a King
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by forgiveness: 11:08pm On Oct 16, 2023
Christistruth00:


Lamurudu

I was revealing the lies to you

Somebody claimed Oduduwa was his Son only to accept Praises describing Oduduwa as his Father

Oh! Okay. Sorry about that.

I understand now. Dude dey lie. Dem no know Oduduwa's father but dem say he came from Igodomigodo.

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by forgiveness: 11:09pm On Oct 16, 2023
Christistruth00:


I was showing the Benin their lies that the Oba Of Benin's praise names busted

What was Oduduwa's Business with Igodomigodo when he had his hand full with Ile Ife

No worries. I understand now.

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by Christistruth00: 11:11pm On Oct 16, 2023
forgiveness:


Oh! Okay. Sorry about that.

I understand now. Dude dey lie. Dem no know Oduduwa's father but dem say he came from Igodomigodo.

Do you even know that the first Ogiso Obagodo who established the Igodomigodo Ogiso dynasty was also from Ile Ife

Benin Historian Egherevba even said that it was from Ile Ife that the People of Igodomigodo migrated

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Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by IkeIgboNiile(m): 1:34am On Oct 17, 2023
[quote author=Christistruth00 post=126444512]

Let us tell you something

The Ijebu,Ilaje,Owu,Akoko,Ekiti,Ijesha Yorubas
are all of Ancient Igbo heritage

Many of the descendants of the Igbos Oduduwa met in Ife are still there in the Obawirin Quarters of Ife

Lol...help me tell them. Oduduwa is said to be the last child of Eri. He was named Odųdųnwa which means last child.
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by IkeIgboNiile(m): 1:35am On Oct 17, 2023
Christistruth00

Let us tell you something

The Ijebu,Ilaje,Owu,Akoko,Ekiti,Ijesha Yorubas
are all of Ancient Igbo heritage

Many of the descendants of the Igbos Oduduwa met in Ife are still there in the Obawirin Quarters of Ife

Lol...help me tell them. Oduduwa is said to be the last child of Eri. He was named Odųdųnwa which means last child.
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by Beuberry(f): 3:13am On Oct 17, 2023
Elose11:

We have told them severally that their Oduduwa was a Benin prince. Oba of Benin and Oba of Lagos told them on severally fora. They were vilified and called names. Now one of there own have echoed it. Will my Yoruba brothers listen?
Sorry o Ekaladerhan. How come Yoruba culture supercedes and over influence Benin culture?
How come it's in Yoruba words that we have more meanings of names, traditional and culture Benin borrowed?
If you are looking for a lost prince, must it be that he's the one at Ile-Ife?
I no blame you o. I blamed Odua that released Odede for unaake he be una king.
How come he named Benin as Ile-Ibinu?
Isn't that the original name of Benin?
The king of Iwo that you are referring, isn't he your college in smoking loud?
He's a known smoker and words of a ganja mam can't be totally respected.
As he's entitled to his opinion, so are you. But go and find your Ekaladerhan elsewhere!
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by ottersberger(m): 6:09am On Oct 17, 2023
Christistruth00:
Oduduwa was born in Yorubaland
but seemed to often Travel to Borno and Sudan to fight Wars against the Jihadists he appeared to have Nupe and Borno relatives across the Niger

Prof Akinbanji did the research and wrote it in his book of Yoruba History

You're saying Oduduwa did not actually fall from heaven?. You don't mean it!. Your brother will label you Igbo soon enough.
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by ottersberger(m): 6:14am On Oct 17, 2023
IkeIgboNiile:
Christistruth00

Let us tell you something

The Ijebu,Ilaje,Owu,Akoko,Ekiti,Ijesha Yorubas
are all of Ancient Igbo heritage

Many of the descendants of the Igbos Oduduwa met in Ife are still there in the Obawirin Quarters of Ife

Lol...help me tell them. Oduduwa is said to be the last child of Eri. He was named Odųdųnwa which means last child.

But the Ooni said Igbo came from Ile ife. Is he also smoking that thing the Oluwo smokes?
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by SoNature(m): 6:55am On Oct 17, 2023
While the Igbos have Joe Igbokwe, this oba is the Joe Igbokwe of the Yoruba land. This controversial man always says embarrassing things or contrary things against the will of his people.
Re: Yorubas Are Not Originally From Ife. Oduduwa Came From Somewhere.....Oluwo by orisa37: 7:24am On Oct 17, 2023
OLUWO IS CORRUPT AND IS A TRAITOR. HE TALKS GIBBERISH MANY TIMES. LIKE HE WANTS TO BE EMIR AND THE SULTAN OF IWOLAND.

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