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Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by BetaThings: 8:08am On Oct 27, 2011
http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/24280-kogi-police-explain-arrest.html

Kogi State Police Commissioner, Mr. Amanana Ababakasanga yesterday gave the reason behind the arrest of members of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) in Lokoja, the state capital.
The Police had on Tuesday intercepted and detained 28 members of the ACN, led by Mr. Rasheed Adedeji. The coaster bus, belonging to the Osun State Government House and which was conveying them has been impounded by the police at the Murtala Muhammad Bridge, Jamata en route Abuja.
According to the commissioner, the ACN members were disallowed to continue on the journey because they could not explain their mission to Abuja.
His words: “Somebody that is going to Abuja, should be ready to tell us his mission. So, since they don’t know their mission to Abuja, we stopped them from moving further.
“Since it was late to go back to Osun, we asked them if they can stay in the hotel for the night, but they say they have booked hotel for them in Abuja that they don’t have money to stay in the hotel here in Lokoja. They would prefer to stay with my officers at that bridge.”
According to the police chief, he ordered his men to escort out side the boundary of Kogi state. He said:”Since they have no mission going to Abuja, I asked my men to escort them outside Kogi. They can use another route to Abuja, but not through my state.
“Anybody who is living his house to somewhere, should have a mission. But in this case they don’t have. So, we see it as secret and the secret might be evil,” he explained.
Last month, the 19 buses conveying members of the ACN to Abuja to give solidarity to their leader, Asiwaju Ahmed Bola Tinubu were also intercepted at the same spot by the police.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by BetaThings: 8:12am On Oct 27, 2011
So I need a visa to go to another part of the country?
So tourists must have a mission now
I cannot just feel like going to Ibadan and enter my car. I must have a mission acceptable to the Police
I reckon that airborne planes would soon be asked to return to the airport so that the police can determine the mission of the passengers
So when I am inside an ABC or YSG Motors bus, I might be asked to return to my hometown because I don't have any mission in another part of Nigeria
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by cjfavour(m): 12:18am On Nov 01, 2011
Mr commisioner?that's hogwash and abuse of power.are you saying that your men asked everybody that went to abuja that day what their mission at abuja was?Are tHey still on that road asking?YOU'RE SIMPLY INCOMPETENT AND BIASED.SHAME ON YOU.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by aljharem3: 12:34am On Nov 01, 2011
funny,

No right to go to FCT without them knowing ur mission grin grin grin
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Kilode1: 12:42am On Nov 01, 2011
His words: “Somebody that is going to Abuja, should be ready to tell us his mission. So, since they don’t know their mission to Abuja, we stopped them from moving further.

This is why you don't Staff your police service with im/be/ciles.

This is why you don't promote idiooots. This man should have just kept quiet.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Beaf: 12:43am On Nov 01, 2011
Even in places like Europe, I have been stopped several times by the police and asked where I am going, where I am coming from and what I am going to do. Those are standard police questions all over the World, Nigeria is not a lawless jungle where anything goes.

The police are well within their rights and duties to ask you where you are going and what for and if your answer is not satisfactory, to lock you away from sunlight. cool
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by aljharem(m): 12:46am On Nov 01, 2011
Beaf:

Even in places like Europe, I have been stopped several times by the police and asked where I am going, where I am coming from and what I am going to do. Those are standard police questions all over the World, Nigeria is not a lawless jungle where anything goes.

The police are well within their rights and duties to ask you where you are going and what for and if your answer is not satisfactory, to lock you away from sunlight. cool

So if I do not have a mission in abuja, I cannot go to abuja without being questioned ?
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by koruji(m): 2:39am On Nov 01, 2011
That would be your London in Bayelsa/Delta State, Nigeria. You think everyone is a dunce you can bamboozle? Do you even think before you spew these lies?

The Kogi state police just handed the appellants the court case. Nobody has to tell anyone what they are doing in Abuja or anybody in the Nigerian state for that matter. This is a carryover of the police-state mentality that years of jackboot military rule has forged into your skull.


What the police needs ensure, if they have a reason to conduct a search at all, is that nothing dangerous goes into the city. If anything dangerous turns up then questioning may begin on that basis. But you cannot stop someone for no reason, conduct a search for no reason and find nothing incriminating, and then still keep questioning them. Do you see how that looks now?

Here is a poser for you: What if they answer any of the following: wedding/funeral/toilet/watch TV/court. . .? What then? The police has a checklist of things people can do in Abuja now?

What is wrong with you people? You expect someone going to Abuja for a negative thing to tell you - because you asked?

Please point to the part of Nigerian law that sanction this new addition to the "fascist" rules you guys are building up daily. Tick tock tick tock. . .


Beaf:

Even in places like Europe, I have been stopped several times by the police and asked where I am going, where I am coming from and what I am going to do. Those are standard police questions all over the World, Nigeria is not a lawless jungle where anything goes.

The police are well within their rights and duties to ask you where you are going and what for and if your answer is not satisfactory, to lock you away from sunlight. cool
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by isaleggan: 3:01am On Nov 01, 2011
Kilode?!:

This is why you don't Staff your police service with im/be/ciles.

This is why you don't promote idiooots. This man should have just kept quiet.

"His words: “Somebody that is going to Abuja, should be ready to tell us his mission. So, since they don’t know their mission to Abuja, we stopped them from moving further."

That's right!  All us rascally Lagosians just instituted the same rule: If you don't have an appointment with the Governor, or the Oba, of Lagos, don't even THINK of resting there.  Ma rin lo!   tongue

Kilode?! Kilode?! Kilode?!  cheesy
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Beaf: 3:05am On Nov 01, 2011
koruji:

That would be your London in Bayelsa/Delta State, Nigeria. You think everyone is a dunce you can bamboozle? Do you even think before you spew these lies?

The Kogi state police just handed the appellants the court case. Nobody has to tell anyone what they are doing in Abuja or anybody in the Nigerian state for that matter. This is a carryover of the police-state mentality that years of jackboot military rule has forged into your skull.


What the police needs ensure, if they have a reason to conduct a search at all, is that nothing dangerous goes into the city. If anything dangerous turns up then questioning may begin on that basis. But you cannot stop someone for no reason, conduct a search for no reason and find nothing incriminating, and then still keep questioning them. Do you see how that looks now?

Here is a poser for you: What if they answer any of the following: wedding/funeral/toilet/watch TV/court. . .? What then? The police has a checklist of things people can do in Abuja now?

What is wrong with you people? You expect someone going to Abuja for a negative thing to tell you - because you asked?

Please point to the part of Nigerian law that sanction this new addition to the "fascist" rules you guys are building up daily. Tick tock tick tock. . .

You are talking very stup!dly.
Thank God stup!dity can't change either the law or the rights of the police to enforce it.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by koruji(m): 3:09am On Nov 01, 2011
You are the stupid one. Point to the law and stop pulling it out of your behind.

Beaf:

You are talking very stup!dly.
Thank God stup!dity can't change either the law or the rights of the police to enforce it.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by OAM4J: 3:15am On Nov 01, 2011
Beaf:

Even in places like Europe, I have been stopped several times by the police and asked where I am going, where I am coming from and what I am going to do. Those are standard police questions all over the World, Nigeria is not a lawless jungle where anything goes.

The police are well within their rights and duties to ask you where you are going and what for and if your answer is not satisfactory, to lock you away from sunlight. cool

And how many times have you been turned back or heard someone turned back by police from going forward to their destinations in Europe for giving a "stupid" reason?
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Beaf: 3:16am On Nov 01, 2011
^
You are not obliged to see reason with the law or apply your personal standards to police actions. The law is the law, it is written in stone.

koruji:

You are the silly one. Point to the law and stop pulling it out of your behind.

I said you talk very stup!dly.
People listening to the crap spewed by your likes on this thread would think the average Nigerian is a cretin or an irredeemable fool destined for the clay pot.
This is from the Met's website in the UK:

What is a stop?

There are three different types of stops that you may encounter:
■1. STOP - when a police officer or police community support officer stops you in a public place and asks you to account for yourself and may ask you the following questions:
[size=14pt]■What you are doing
■Where have you been
■Where you are going
■What you are carrying[/size]

■2. STOP AND SEARCH - when a police officer stops and then searches you, your clothes and anything you are carrying.
■3. VEHICLE - a police officer can stop any vehicle and ask the driver for driving documents. This is not the purpose of stop and search, but you may be given documentation relevant to road traffic matters. It becomes a stop if:
■you or any passengers with you are asked to account for themselves; or
■a search is carried out of the vehicle, you or any passengers with you.

You will not necessarily be searched every time you are stopped. Sometimes you may just be stopped and questioned.

The police officer or police community support officer must explain why you are being stopped and held to account for your actions or presence in an area.

There are plenty of occasions when you might talk to police, and most of these do not qualify as either a ‘stop’ or ‘stop and search’.

You have not been officially ‘stopped’ if, for example:
■You stop an officer to ask for directions or information
■You have witnessed a crime and are questioned about it to establish the background to the incident
■You have been in an area where a crime recently occurred and are questioned about what you might have seen

In cases such as those, you have not been stopped for the purposes described on this website, a record of the encounter will not be made and you will not be given a receipt.

However, if you feel you have been stopped you can insist on the officer or police community support officer recording the encounter and giving you a receipt.

http://www.met.police.uk/stopandsearch/what_is.htm#whatstop

Dunce. angry
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by koruji(m): 3:30am On Nov 01, 2011
Don't you see your life? Which of the questions you posted (shown below) equate to "What are you going to do in Abuja"?

Did the police say they did not answer any of these questions? Let me help u if this is too difficult for you to grasp:

What are you doing: Duhhhhh,  We were on the bus, driving on the road, now we are standing still because you stopped us cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Where have you been: I have being to London to see the queen - Of what business is that to you. Okay, ok - I have been to Lokoja
Where are you going: Dude are you dumb? This road leads straight to Abuja
What are you carrying: Nothing. Help yourself and search thoroughly.


Besides I asked you for Nigerian Law, you are posting UK Law. Where is the Nigerian Law, Beaf?

The UK police law clearly states the questions you may be asked - just because rogue officers like this case. You are not obliged to answer any question beyond these.

In addition, note that the law also describes what being stopped means. The police officer is also supposed to issue you a receipt for talking to you, if you want.


What you are doing
■Where have you been
■Where you are going
■What you are carrying

Beaf:

^
You are not obliged to see reason with the law or apply your personal standards to police actions. The law is the law.

I said you talk very stup!dly.
People listening to the crap spewed by your likes on this thread would think the average Nigerian is a cretin or an irredeemable fool destined for the clay pot.
This is from the Met's website in the UK:

http://www.met.police.uk/stopandsearch/what_is.htm#whatstop

Dunce. angry
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Beaf: 3:55am On Nov 01, 2011
^
I guess you have never been outside your village. Go wherever and answer the police foolishly or unconvincingly, only to lay back in your cell to talk about your "rights," cos you think police and laws are out there to decorate the place.

The police have a duty to ask you where you are going and for what purpose and if you fail to convince them, they can warn you and turn you right back or simply throw you in the back of the van for further interrogation, maybe even just to keep you off the streets. IT IS THE SAME EVERYWHERE IN THE WIDE WORLD.
Only a jackass would think the police have no right to keep individuals from accessing a location, either for their safety, or the safety of others.

Think of being a policeman at a checkpoint, only to be besieged by 19 damn buses. You ask where they are going and they answer, "to sing aluta, sir!" Would you be fool enough to let them pass? Especially when a UN building has just been blown up? Even drunks are kept off the roads for goodness sake!

This whole thing is so foolish, its really incredible you are carrying it on. Don't you have any self pride? Your strands of argument are too foolish to carry on as an adult.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Kilode1: 4:08am On Nov 01, 2011
isale_ggan:

That's right!  All us rascally Lagosians just instituted the same rule: If you don't have an appointment with the Governor, or the Oba, of Lagos, don't even THINK of resting there.  Ma rin lo!   tongue

Kilode?! Kilode?! Kilode?!  cheesy

Isale bawo ni jare. E joo, e ma se bi e ti to o shocked.

If you do as you big reach, we alejos and squatters for Lagos go suffer o. Visa to enter Lagos go hard pass NY own.

Anyway I'm off to queue for my Abuja visa at Lokoja Border. Dem don divide Nigeria into two. Wish me luck.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Kilode1: 4:32am On Nov 01, 2011
Section 41 Nigerian Constitution: Fundamental Rights (Freedom of Movement)

41. (1) Every citizen of Nigeria is entitled to move freely throughout Nigeria and to reside in any part thereof, and no citizen of Nigeria shall be expelled from Nigeria or refused entry thereby or exit therefrom.

        (2) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section shall invalidate any law that is reasonably justifiable in a democratic society-

               (a) imposing restrictions on the residence or movement of any person who has committed or is reasonably suspected    to have committed a criminal offence in order to prevent him from leaving Nigeria.

I guess Mr Ababakasanga has now placed himself in a position where he will have to prove that these Citizens of Nigeria committed a crime or at least prove the crime he reasonably suspected them of committing.

I'll also wait for the victims of this violation to tell their own side of the story.

I find it hard to believe that those folks kept mute and did not say a word to the policemen. They did not even say "we are going for a visit" or "to attend a court appearance" or "a meeting"

They just went mute??  undecided
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by koruji(m): 4:34am On Nov 01, 2011
You are simply jumping around as usual. Laws are made so that both sides can be well protected, not just for the one who at that point might seem to be lacking in "power".

If I refuse to act according to the law then the police is protected if he takes lawful action. Similarly, when the police acts outside the law then I am protected when I follow my rights.

All the below are made-up-in-your head notions that have nothing to do with the law - that is why it is written down. You cannot make it up as you go along.
We have for too long put instruments of violence into the hands of people, without backing it up with law and responsibility for their actions.

I am sure you have seen the report about the boy that was recently gunned down in Bayelsa (of all places) by the police. You just jusfied that dastardly act!!! Reason: There is actually a law on the police books that said you could shoot someone if they refuse to stop if the police asked them to. Like you the police stopped there.

The only problem was the boy was so disgusted, probably having listened in Church to a sermon condemning such acts, that with Bible in hand he spoke up about their unlawful act of bribery in public view.

Question for your fascist noggin is: Were those police officers working under the law when they knowingly shot a young boy that was obviously unarmed because he condemned their unlawful bribe collection? Don't even border answering.

Beaf:

^
I guess you have never been outside your village. Go wherever and answer the police foolishly or unconvincingly, only to lay back in your cell to talk about your "rights," cos you think police and laws are out there to decorate the place.

The police have a duty to ask you where you are going and for what purpose and if you fail to convince them, they can warn you and turn you right back or simply throw you in the back of the van for further interrogation, maybe even just to keep you off the streets. IT IS THE SAME EVERYWHERE IN THE WIDE WORLD.
Only a jackass would think the police have no right to keep individuals from accessing a location, either for their safety, or the safety of others.

Think of being a policeman at a checkpoint, only to be besieged by 19 damn buses. You ask where they are going and they answer, "to sing aluta, sir!" Would you be fool enough to let them pass? Especially when a UN building has just been blown up? Even drunks are kept off the roads for goodness sake!

This whole thing is so foolish, its really incredible you are carrying it on. Don't you have any self pride? Your strands of argument are too foolish to carry on as an adult.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by OAM4J: 4:58am On Nov 01, 2011


[size=13pt]23 ACN members sue IG for N15b over arrest[/size]

Twenty-three members and leaders of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) have sued the Inspector-General of Police, Hafiz Ringim at the Federal High Court, Lokoja, for N15 billion for allegedly preventing them from entering the Federal Capital Territory (FCT), Abuja.

They said the restriction of their freedom of movement on September 21 and on October 25 and 26 this year is unconstitutional, illegal, and null and void.

According to them, it is a violation of their rights as guaranteed by Section 41 of the 1999 Constitution (as amended) and Article 12 (1) of the African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights.


http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/24678-23-acn-members-sue-ig-for-n15b-over-arrest.html

Good! Just that our justice system is messed up. The case might take forever.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by dayokanu(m): 5:07am On Nov 01, 2011
Retardeen and his cohorts are simply clueless
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Rhino5dm: 6:01am On Nov 01, 2011
what have you said on the thread that a policeman shot an innocent boy coming back from church in Bayelsa if front of his mum? I pray all you siblings should be gun down like common criminals at checkpoints.

Porca puttana!. va' fan'culo!. Bastardo!!.


Beaf:

Even in places like Europe, I have been stopped several times by the police and asked where I am going, where I am coming from and what I am going to do. Those are standard police questions all over the World, Nigeria is not a lawless jungle where anything goes.

The police are well within their rights and duties to ask you where you are going and what for and if your answer is not satisfactory, to lock you away from sunlight. cool
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Nobody: 7:31am On Nov 01, 2011
Beaf:

The police are well within their rights and duties to ask you where you are going and what for and if your answer is not satisfactory, to lock you away from sunlight. cool

sounds like beaf also takes cut from police pickings on 'illegal wandering'

there is nothing this animal will not defend as long as it involves the beloved pdp.

if those police had gangra-ped some of the acn members, beaf would be telling us they 'consented'

what a lost animal. this is what the pdp does to people. no wonder he wants ogboru to join him. miser loves company.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by texazzpete(m): 7:44am On Nov 01, 2011
Is there no depth that Beaf will not sink to?
The Police have no right to ask anyone what they are 'going to do in Abuja' or deny anyone transit because they did not provide detailed description of what they are going to do.
I cannot believe any one in his right mind will defend this nonsense.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Bawss1(m): 8:05am On Nov 01, 2011
texazzpete:

Is there no depth that Beaf will not sink to?
The Police have no right to ask anyone what they are 'going to do in Abuja' or deny anyone transit because they did not provide detailed description of what they are going to do.
I cannot believe any one in his right mind will defend this nonsense.

We can therefore conclude that it is only those who have lost their senses that will want to defend this rubbish. smiley

OTOH it makes one wonder what type of people we have as police officers. Smh
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Demdem(m): 8:35am On Nov 01, 2011
Too much sycophancy leads to madness. I cant believe we will have someone supporting this. Its a shame.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by kokoA(m): 8:45am On Nov 01, 2011
Please who know the address of the 'Lagos state embassy' in Abuja? I need a visa to Lag ASAP!
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by cjfavour(m): 11:31am On Nov 01, 2011
Beaf you've nt bn to Europe or you would have known dt there's what is called freedom of movement unless the area is a restricted area.Is Abuja a restricted area? As i said,dt particular day at dt spot,did d police asked all that were passing dt road where they were going and their mission at abj? are they still there today asking? The man worked on instruction period.YOU PDP MAN SHLD STOP DEFENDING EVIL.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Demdem(m): 11:34am On Nov 01, 2011
How will he get paid if he does undecided
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Kilode1: 5:45pm On Nov 01, 2011
Unfortunately, the executive "owns" the judiciary here. So an unfavorable case will likely stall in the courts.  embarassed
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Beaf: 5:59pm On Nov 01, 2011
Rhino.5dm:

what have you said on the thread that a policeman shot an innocent boy coming back from church in Bayelsa if front of his mum? I pray all you siblings should be gun down like common criminals at checkpoints.

Porca puttana!. va' fan'culo!. Bastardo!!.

Spoken with "pride" from the depths of the gutter.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Beaf: 6:02pm On Nov 01, 2011
cjfavour:

Beaf you've nt bn to Europe or you would have known dt there's what is called freedom of movement unless the area is a restricted area.Is Abuja a restricted area? As i said,dt particular day at dt spot,did d police asked all that were passing dt road where they were going and their mission at abj? are they still there today asking? The man worked on instruction period.YOU PDP MAN SHLD STOP DEFENDING EVIL.

Lol! Maybe you think that Londons Metropolitan Police are sited in Abeokuta!
This is one hilarious thread indeed!

Abuja isn't restricted? Of course, you blind apologists have never heard of boko haram.
Re: Kogi Police Explain Arrest Of Acn Members In Lokoja by Beaf: 6:07pm On Nov 01, 2011
texazzpete:

Is there no depth that Beaf will not sink to?
The Police have no right to ask anyone what they are 'going to do in Abuja' or deny anyone transit because they did not provide detailed description of what they are going to do.
I cannot believe any one in his right mind will defend this nonsense.

Look who's talking about sinking!! World don hend! grin grin grin
Guy, its really hard to distinguish you from a mad man these days. In the past you used to be semi-smart, now you sound like a cross between Eko Ile, oyb, demdem and dayokanu (the Abacha tool). embarassed

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