There are a lot of competing truth-claim systems in the world. How do we know that we as Christians are believing what is true and are not deceived? The answer is three-fold.

First, Christianity is only as true as the person of Jesus. He fulfilled prophecy, claimed to be God in flesh, performed many miracles, died, and physically rose from the dead. Christianity is about Jesus, his claims, and his deeds. It is based on him and it is only as true as he is true.

Second, Christianity is consistent with reason, facts, and shows evidence of God's inspiration in the Bible.

Third, all other religious systems are either unverifiable or irrational in their teachings.


The person of Jesus

For the Christian, the ultimate expression of truth is found in the person of Jesus who said, ""I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life and no one comes to the father but through me, " (John 14:6). Jesus, who claimed to be divine, performed many miracles, and rose from the dead said that he alone was the Truth. He was either right or wrong. There is no in-between. If Jesus is wrong, then Christianity is a wrong. If Jesus did not rise from the dead, then we should abandon our faith because he would be no different than anyone else. If Jesus is not God in flesh, then we should denounce him as a madman because you can't claim to be God and be sane -- unless the claim is true. Therefore, if what Jesus said about himself is true, then Christianity is true.

Did Jesus fail to rise from the dead? If so, why could no one produce the body? Were the eyewitnesses of his resurrection really conspirators and liars? Then how did they concoct such a lie based on eyewitness accounts that could have been verified at that time?  We have no historical refutations of the gospel claims. Why would people invent such a story that they knew would probably cost them their lives? Why would Paul, of Pharisees sent to destroy Christianity, suddenly convert and state that his conversion was based upon the appearance of the resurrected Christ? The answer to these questions are best found by believing that Jesus was who he said he was, performed miracles, and rose from the dead.

You see, Christianity is only as true as Jesus is true. If it can be shown that Jesus lied, failed to perform miracles, was not God in flesh, and did not rise from the dead, then Christianity is false and we are deceived.


Reason, Facts of history, and Inspiration

There is nothing within the scope of Christian teaching that denies reason. The doctrine of the Trinity may be a mystery, but it is not illogical. The incarnation may be paradoxical in that the person of Jesus is both divine and human, but it is not impossible. The resurrection of Christ may be enigmatic, but it does not defy logic -- unless you deny the miraculous to begin with. Christianity is reasonable; that is, it does not violate logic. It may contain mysteries and paradoxes, but there is nothing within its body of teaching that contradicts reason.

There is nothing within Christian teaching that denies the facts of history. History and archaeology confirm the Bible. We have many non-biblical accounts of New Testament events and/or people. Josephus, a Jewish historian (AD 37-101), mentioned John the Baptist and Herod (Antiquities, Book 18, ch. 5, par. 2), as well as Jesus (Antiquities, Book 18, ch. 3, par. 3) and James (Antiquities, Book 20, ch. 19). Tacitus, a Roman historian (AD 55-117), mentions Jesus (Annals XV); Thallus (Circa AD 52), mentions the eclipse of the sun.1

The facts of archaeology and history support the Bible and do not contradict it. Various cities mentioned in it have been discovered: Arad, Bethel, Capernaum, Chorizin, Dan, Ephesus, Gaza, Gezer, Hazor, Hesbon, Jericho, Joppa, Nineveh, Schechem, Susa, etc. The Hittites have been verified, as have the stables of Solomon, etc. The point is, there is nothing in archaeology that contradicts biblical truth. It agrees with and is consistent with archaeology and history.

Evidence of biblical inspiration can be clearly seen in the prophecies found in the Old Testament and their fulfillment in the New.

The following cities were prophesied to be destroyed and never rebuilt which has come true since they have not yet been rebuilt. Nineveh (Nah. 1:10; 3:7,15; Zeph. 2:13-14), Babylon (Isaiah 13:1-22), and Tyre (Ezek. 26).

Prophecies about Jesus: Jesus would be born of a virgin Isaiah 7:14 fulfilled in Matt. 1:18,25; His birthplace in Bethlehem Micah 5:2, fulfilled in Matt. 2:1; Preceded by a messenger Isaiah 40:3, fulfilled in Matt. 3:1-2; side pierced Zech. 12:10, fulfilled in John 19:34; that he would be crucified Psalm 22:1, 11-18, fulfilled in John 19:23-24.

Prophecies of the future and their fulfillment are evidence of God's involvement in Christianity. Though much more can be written on this topic, the evidence of God's work in the Bible can be demonstrated reasonably to be true. It is scientifically accurate, archaeologically accurate, and historically accurate. When this is combined with the extremely well-preserved documents written by the eyewitnesses, it leads us to conclude reasonably that the Bible is preserved excellently, and is not merely the product of human effort.  It is divinely inspired.

Of course, there are critics who say that the Bible was altered to make it look as though Jesus fulfilled prophecies. But this would mean the Bible was purposely written to be a deception. What evidence exists for that claim? How do the critics account for the Bible's declaration of teaching truth while it is based on a lie? Why would the disciples knowingly deceive and suffer ostracization from their culture and be willing to die for what they knew was false? Such basic questions would need to be answered because those who would propose a new theory, need to answer the tough questions that their theories would raise. Can they give a more reasonable explanation than the one contained in the Bible -- that Jesus was who he said he was and did what the Scriptures say he did? If no more feasible theories can be proposed that would account for all the facts, then the critics have nothing on which to stand and the claims of Scripture are true.


Other belief systems are unverifiable or irrational

There are other belief systems that claim to be valid, but they are either non-verifiable historically, or irrational internally. For example[b] Mormonism[/b] clearly contradicts the Bible (teaches God was a man on another planet, is married to a goddess wife, etc.), has no historical evidence to validate the book of Mormon, and teaches the logical impossibility of an eternal regression of causes. It teaches that there is an infinite regression of gods being formed, i.e., an infinite list of causes in the past. But this is impossible since this would require crossing an infinite amount of time (causal events) to get to the present. But an infinite amount of time cannot be crossed -- otherwise it isn't infinite. Therefore, there cannot be an infinite regression of new gods being formed and Mormonism can't be true.

Islam teaches that the Quran is the absolute truth revealed from their god Allah. It further states, and this is critical, that if one fact in the Quran is incorrect, then Islam is not true. But the Quran teaches a man's seed comes from his chest, not testes, (Quran 86:5-7). It describes crucifixion before its invention (Quran 7:123-124) and says that birds and ants can talk (27:16; 27:18). Since these are not true, Islam can't be either.

Atheism, as a negative worldview, cannot be validated to be true, nor can it account for rationality since its materialistic perspective cannot bridge the gap between absolute, conceptual realities (i.e., logical absolutes on which reason is based) and the principle of materialism -- that all things in the universe can be understood in terms of motion, matter, chemical reactions, etc. Again, atheism can't be verified as being true since it is a position of negativity. A denial of the existence of something is almost always impossible to validate.

Reincarnation religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.) have the problem of karma, the residual cause-and-effect from previous lives that governs future incarnation levels. These incarnations serve the goal of teaching the soul, through life's journey's, so that they can return to the divine source (how can this be verfied?). But each soul had at its initial incarnation perfect karma, yet each soul failed to return to the source even while having had perfect karma. Instead, each soul is locked in the ongoing cycle of reincarnation. If the soul had not learned its lessons after experiencing perfect karma, how can it do so with imperfect karma? Furthermore, eastern-based religions deny the absolutes of logic and infer counter-logical systems that contradict logic and cannot be validated through history or reason. In essence, they are nonfalsifiable.2

The New Age Movement offers subjective, unverifiable experience as the underlying framework for its theological perspectives such as human divinity, divinity of nature, etc. It is an eclectic movement with numerous contradictory belief systems that rest under its broad umbrella. How can anyone can take it seriously?

These simplified and brief analyses of various systems demonstrate that their claims must be verifiable in some way (archaeology, ancient documents concurrent with verifiable history, etc.) and must be rational. But, when a theological system cannot be verified using either normal historical examination or internal logical consistency, how can it be assumed to be true? It can't.



Where else would we go?

Jesus had a discussion with his disciples in John 6 where he spoke about communion and that no one could come to him unless it was granted him from the father (John 6:67-68). "At this point many of his disciples abandoned him. Jesus then said to the twelve, 'You do not want to go away also, do you?' 68 Simon Peter answered Him, 'Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life.'" Peter's answer is relevant. If we must abandon Christianity, then what better offer can anyone make that would be of greater truth than the words of Jesus? Where else would we go? To Islam and learn to kill? To Mormonism to answer the call of pride in order to become gods? To atheism which offers us nothing except moral relativity and inconsistency? To reincarnation with its seemingly endless cycle of incarnations and suffering? What is better than Jesus? To whom should we go if we abandoned Christianity?



Conclusion

If anyone has anything better to offer than the claims, the deeds, and the sacrifice of Christ then perhaps we would go that way. But since no one else has anything better to offer than Jesus and since no one else has fulfilled prophecies, performed miracles, raised people from the dead, risen from the dead, and promised to return for his people, than we are forced by reason and the evidence to continue to believe in Jesus, his teachings, and the truth that Christianity represents as is found in him.

Christianity is true and we are not deceived because it is based on the person of Jesus who fulfilled prophecy, claimed to be God in flesh, performed many miracles, died, and physically rose from the dead.   Christianity is consistent with reason, facts, and shows evidence of God's inspiration. And finally, all other religious systems are either unverifiable or irrational thereby disqualifying them as being true.

Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that Christianity is true and that we are not being deceived.

http://carm.org/how-do-we-know-christianity-true-and-we-are-not-deceived

All of the other spiritual paths that you have listed as irrational may be that to you, but that does not mean they are. The same way that you can look at them as irrational, is the same way they can look at you that way. Therefore, there is no point in such a debate. How unkind to call something that someone holds so dear to their heart irrational? Religions, all of them, if looked at through the lens of logic are irrational. However, it serves a purpose. For you the story of Jesus rings true in your heart. That is wonderful. But before you respond defensively, have compassion and empathy and understand that the stories of Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, etc ring true in the hearts of others. So, instead of trying to tell these individuals that you are right and they are wrong, why not just exemplify the wonderful person and teacher that Jesus was, and leave the rest alone. Would this not be an example of the teaching of Jesus to love your fellow man? Similar to the teachings of Buddha and Muhammed. Whatever rings true for you.

@Frosbel
We can't compare religion against each other. The is no competion.Religion is a persons personal search and acceptance of the existance of God.
On the topic, how than do we prove the factual existance of Christ? If we are to share our faith and truth with others?

Christianity is a life of faith. It cannot be discerned with the human senses, you stumble at it when you try to grasp it with ur mind. Just believe what God says in His word & u'd be fine

frosbel:

Second, Christianity is consistent with reason, facts, and shows evidence of God's inspiration in the Bible.

Third, all other religious systems are either unverifiable or irrational in their teachings.

Islam teaches that the Quran is the absolute truth revealed from their god Allah. It further states, and this is critical, that if one fact in the Quran is incorrect, then Islam is not true. But the Quran teaches a man's seed comes from his chest, not testes, (Quran 86:5-7). It describes crucifixion before its invention (Quran 7:123-124) and says that birds and ants can talk (27:16; 27:18). Since these are not true, Islam can't be either.

The bible has talking snakes and donkeys. The bible has mythical creatures like unicorns and Satyrs. How rational, consistent with reason and verifiable is that ?
Since these are not true, Christianity cant be true either.

There are many other points/issues but I prefer to dwell on these.

[quote]First, Christianity is only as true as the person of Jesus. He fulfilled prophecy, claimed to be God in flesh, performed many miracles, died, and physically rose from the dead. Christianity is about Jesus, his claims, and his deeds. It is based on him and it is only as true as he is true.[/Quote]Even if people lied on him as in the form of the bold? There is no prophesy that says God Almighty shall live His Positions of Honor and Creator to become a land dwelling creator, so much so that he wil be gored to death.



[Quote]Second, Christianity is consistent with reason, facts, and shows evidence of God's inspiration in the Bible.[/Quote]The Jews will disagree with you for one; God is not 3 entities, persons, beings. Whats consistent with reason in that out of normal thoughts in that? Its bad science, math, calculation.



[Quote]Third, all other religious systems are either unverifiable or irrational in their teachings.[/Quote]The Jews that hold the key to your salvation reject your doctrine because it is unverifiable and irrational. You had to force yourself on him, saying that his book is your book, darn gentile [goyim].



[Quote]The person of Jesus

For the Christian, the ultimate expression of truth is found in the person of Jesus who said, ""I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life and no one comes to the father but through me, " (John 14:6). Jesus, who claimed to be divine, performed many miracles, and rose from the dead said that he alone was the Truth. He was either right or wrong. There is no in-between.[/Quote]There is in between, the third choice, somebody made these claims about him, neither hearing it from him or giving anyone that such idea was possible. I do hope that you realize that there was truth before Jesus came? Adam was a truth. So was Enoch. So was Noah while the liars perished. So was Abraham. So was Lot. Jesus was not the only way in his time, because there was John and his father who were ways too. How is an one who had already experience death and rose from it became an one who does not walk under the street light for fear he might be killed, again is illogical. Yet the Bible said after death, comes judgment. How is the God that dies in the hands of his creations rose up to walk the back alley, afraid to be seized, again?



[Quote] If Jesus is wrong, then Christianity is a wrong. If Jesus did not rise from the dead, then we should abandon our faith because he would be no different than anyone else. If Jesus is not God in flesh, then we should denounce him as a madman because you can't claim to be God and be sane -- unless the claim is true. Therefore, if what Jesus said about himself is true, then Christianity is true.[/Quote]Even if you people put these words in his mouth, knowing fully well he is not here to refute your claims? Is he the wrong part or you the liars about him? The one who is insane is the liars on Jesus, who says his God is One Lord, Ellah.



[Quote]Did Jesus fail to rise from the dead? If so, why could no one produce the body?[/Quote]And a person who has no apparent sign of being alive, could not have collapsed, fainted? People are shocked back to life, today, if you don't know. you may as well visit a hospital near you. Teir bodies go home with them.



[Quote] Were the eyewitnesses of his resurrection really conspirators and liars?[/Quote]Eyewitness? The women bolder than the brittle heart men? With all the spices in hand, they did not recognize the man they spent 3 years following? No two accounts of the resurrection are similar. Read your bibles and educate yourself of an earthquake here and no other person remembered such a great event.



[Quote] Then how did they concoct such a lie based on eyewitness accounts that could have been verified at that time?  We have no historical refutations of the gospel claims. Why would people invent such a story that they knew would probably cost them their lives? [/Quote]Your guess is as good as mine. look at yourself; you have an education but you believe 3 are 1 or 1 is 3. No one saw Jesus rise and no one was certain he died. But plenty knew he was still breathing when helped off the tree. All the spending of 3 days and 3 nights amounts to bad arithmetic. So whats new? One lie snowballed to many on the same person. Thats all. Now we are trying to call you out darkness to come to light.



[Quote]Why would Paul, of Pharisees sent to destroy Christianity, suddenly convert and state that his conversion was based upon the appearance of the resurrected Christ? The answer to these questions are best found by believing that Jesus was who he said he was, performed miracles, and rose from the dead.[/Quote]Even if the account of Paul is a lie, considering what he said about his effort in "gaining souls"? He said if his lies gains souls, why is he being persecuted by the true disciples, before they were beat down to accepting "Pauline Doctrine". Where is the Doctrine of Jesus?



[Quote]You see, Christianity is only as true as Jesus is true. If it can be shown that Jesus lied, failed to perform miracles, was not God in flesh, and did not rise from the dead, then Christianity is false and we are deceived.[/Quote]Jesus needs not be the liar to arrive at the conclusion that none of what you claim for Jesus was true. We only have to look at what those who made these claims did; the lied following their own desire to elevate a man who said my Lord is the same as the Lord of all and he is One God Who deserves all sincere true worship. And Jesus a servant messenger sent by Him worshiped Him in truth and absolute devotion.

jayriginal:

The bible has talking snakes and donkeys. The bible has mythical creatures like unicorns and Satyrs. How rational, consistent with reason and verifiable is that ?
Since these are not true, Christianity cant be true either.

There are many other points/issues but I prefer to dwell on these.

Snakes in the plural , hmmmm.

Okay in context the bible says that the snake was used by Satan to convery a message of deception to Eve.


Donkey in the plural , again hmm.

It clearly says that an Angel preempted this incident and again for the purpose of rebuking a false prophet.


Unicorns may have existed , we can never tell, what about the dodo bird, dinosaurs and all these sorts that we have never laid our eyes upon.

Surely it is more extreme to believe in Dionaurs than Unicorns.

But I tell you , there are strange creatures on this earth, I did some Zoology at school and the unicorn is a passing comment compared to some of the real stuff we examine in the world today.

Coming back to ants talking , in this case the context into which this Quanic statement was inserted creates the impression that this was normal behaviout for ants.

Surah 27:18 (Asad) till, when they came upon a valley [full] of ants, an ant exclaimed: “O you ants! Get into your dwellings, lest Solomon and his hosts crush you without [even] being aware [of you]!”

Now if you believe ants talk on their own , no further comment 

^^^

Yet you believed that a snake spoke to adam, your hypocrisy is hilarious

frosbel:

Islam teaches that the Quran is the absolute truth revealed from their god Allah. It further states, and this is critical, that if one fact in the Quran is incorrect, then Islam is not true. But the Quran teaches a man's seed comes from his chest, not testes, (Quran 86:5-7). It describes crucifixion before its invention (Quran 7:123-124) and says that birds and ants can talk (27:16; 27:18). Since these are not true, Islam can't be either.

smh! th Qur'an actually gives a general way of verifying whether any book is from God or man made fiction, that is it states had this been from any other than Allah you will find therein many contradictions, it is a historical and contemporary fact that the bible is riddled with huge questions marks, commas and incredulous stories that mocks divinity, Nowhere does the Qur'an teaches that the Man's seed comes from the chest as the verse clearly states that "Now let man but think from what he is created! He is created from a drop emitted - Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:" S. 86:5-7 some one ask frosbel where it state chest? in fact the writers of the bible claimed that women as well emitted seeds of their own, which we all know is a blatant lie, again you lies that cruxifiction was refereed to before its inventions shows how u know little of history as cruxifiction does not necessarily means that in cross like manner, as cruxifictions had long been practiced by the phonecians long before the advent of Christianity, even the Jehovah witness believed that Jesus was hanged on a stake, get more info here http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/crucify.html. on the third claim the Qur'an never said birds and ant can talk, what it did say was Solomon was able to understand their communications amongst themselves, anybody that believes in miracle should not find it hard to belief just as a serpent spoke to Adam in the Garden of eden will the likes of frosbel be willing to apply his criteria of judgement in such circumstance, well lets not forget we are talking of frosbel a man known to to fabricate and manipulate the truth . . .

^^^

Nope.

I believe that SATAN spoke to Eve ( Not ADAM point of correction ), through a SNAKE.

But you believe that ants speak on their own and not to humans which may have been worthy of forgiveness for such a thought,  but to themselves , lol.   

Let me insert the quote again from the Noble Quran.

Surah 27:18 (Asad) till, when they came upon a valley [full] of ants, an ant exclaimed: “O you ants! Get into your dwellings, lest Solomon and his hosts crush you without [even] being aware [of you]!

Now please two things please !!

- No cut and paste, I want your original arguements.
- No derailment


Thank You Sir,

The same way the snake was able to speak to the hearing of eve is the same way Solomon was able to hear the ants communicate with each other, it remains funny how this Christians suddenly turn atheist when miracles are they o not want to believe are shown to them. As it remain possible that God made the ants spoke to the hearing of Solomon as a sign to Solomon, you lie when you claim that the Qur'an says ants talk, again deliberately misinforming people is it the only way u were taught to preach? it is a scientific fact that ants communicate with each other using complex methods

vedaxcool:



The same way the snake was able to speak to the hearing of eve is the same way Solomon was able to hear the ants communicate with each other, it remains funny how this Christians suddenly turn atheist when miracles are they o not want to believe are shown to them. As it remain possible that God made the ants spoke to the hearing of Solomon as a sign to Solomon, you lie when you claim that the Qur'an says ants talk, again deliberately misinforming people is it the only way u were taught to preach? it is a scientific fact that ants communicate with each other using complex methods 

Again Sir , you mislead the audience.

The verse in the Noble Quran never said Solomon heard the ants speak, that might have caused him a heart attack. It says clearly and with transparent emphasis that the ants talked to each other !

In other words a conversation ensued between the ant and members of his colony after a threat of crushing from Solomon and his hosts

But to quote a brother , "Everyone knows that ants communicate by chemicals detected by scent and never sound! Is this not a scientific error in the Qur'an?"

If one listen to this guy ^^^, it will seem that his book is a book of facts.
Some say Jesus is the beginner and finisher of their religion, ignoring that Paul is the finisher.

With this thought, how many more things they do not know, worse, ignored?

If snake didn't speak to Eve, who was from Adam and his partner, and Eve spoke to Adam what the snake said, and he accepted it,

will it be too far fetched to say [accept] that King Solomon the wise and the Ant spoke to each other? considering that God inspired whosoever He wills.?

frosbel:


Again Sir , you mislead the audience.

The verse in the Noble Quran never said Solomon heard the ants speak, that might have caused him a heart attack. It says clearly and with transparent emphasis that the ants talked to each other !

In other words a conversation ensued between the ant and members of his colony after a threat of crushing from Solomon and his hosts 

But to quote a brother , "Everyone knows that ants communicate by chemicals detected by scent and never sound! Is this not a scientific error in the Qur'an?"

This simply indicates that you are engaged in what is known as cherry picking fallacy, the preceding verse shows that Solomon actually heard what the ants said

27:19] He smiled and laughed at her statement,* and said, "My Lord, direct me to be appreciative of the blessings You have bestowed upon me and my parents, and to do the righteous works that please You. Admit me by Your mercy into the company of Your righteous servants.

Now the question is could not God had made Solomon hear the ants speak? You are free to play/become an atheist in order to score some low points which only unobjective individuals will accept , to prove you are a closet atheist, you wrote Solomon might have had a heart attack, yet it seems perfectly logical to you that eve  a woman did not have any sort of heart attack when she spoke to Mr Snake? Mary did not have a heart attack when she saw an angel or even conceived without any male intervention,  .     . . , Solomon was a prophet of God, are you getting my drift? discourse can only be sensible if we are honest, rather than this show of atheism you are putting up. To conclude, thank God you said ants communicate by chemical emmisions, God that created them knows what every emission of Chemical would mean,and being the all knowing made Solomon to hear what they spoke about. I hope this saves you from atheism.

Lots of Laughter and Love from Veda 

vedaxcool:


This simply indicates that you are engaged in what is known as cherry picking fallacy, the preceding verse shows that Solomon actually heard what the ants said

27:19] He smiled and laughed at her statement,* and said, "My Lord, direct me to be appreciative of the blessings You have bestowed upon me and my parents, and to do the righteous works that please You. Admit me by Your mercy into the company of Your righteous servants.

Now the question is could not God had made Solomon hear the ants speak? You are free to play/become an atheist in order to score some low points which only unobjective individuals will accept , to prove you are a closet atheist, you wrote Solomon might have had a heart attack, yet it seems perfectly logical to you that eve  a woman did not have any sort of heart attack when she spoke to Mr Snake? Mary did not have a heart attack when she saw an angel or even conceived without any male intervention,  .     . . , Solomon was a prophet of God, are you getting my drift? discourse can only be sensible if we are honest, rather than this show of atheism you are putting up. To conclude, thank God you said ants communicate by chemical emmisions, God that created them knows what every emission of Chemical would mean,and being the all knowing made Solomon to hear what they spoke about. I hope this saves you from atheism.

Lots of Laughter and Love from Veda 

So Solomon addressed the ant as 'my Lord.'


I go die ooooo,   

frosbel:


So Solomon addressed the ant as  'my Lord.'


I go die ooooo,   

^^^ You are just being mischievous here. I'm sure you know that in the passage Solomon is addressing God, not the ants.

frosbel:

Snakes in the plural , hmmmm.

Okay in context the bible says that the snake was used by Satan to convery a message of deception to Eve.


Donkey in the plural , again hmm.

It clearly says that an Angel preempted this incident and again for the purpose of rebuking a false prophet.

And as for the talking snakes and donkeys, does the phrase "talking animals" pacify you ?
If you believe Satan used one and an angel the other, why cant you accept that God permitted Solomon to hear the ants ?

frosbel:


Unicorns may have existed , we can never tell, what about the dodo bird, dinosaurs and all these sorts that we have never laid our eyes upon.

The Unicorn is a mythical creature. For dinosaurs and Dodos, we have fossil evidence. For Unicorns we have none. There is documentation of the Dodo, by people who were living in times when it wasnt extinct.

frosbel:

Surely it is more extreme to believe in Dionaurs than Unicorns.

I dont think so. I know of certain people who pull out bible verses to justify the presence of dinasaurs (though they are wrong). There is evidence for Dinosaurs and none for Unicorns. We digress, lets settle the issue of talking animals in the books. Thats more important.

Once again, if you believe Satan used one and an angel the other, why cant you accept that God permitted Solomon to hear the ants ?

@Frosbel

Is christianity thru either reason or faith?

@Frosbel

Is christianity ascertainable thru either reason or faith?

Frosbel, you do not know that christianity is a lie and that you are well and truly deceived. But if it works for you, fine. But leave other religions alone because they are no more or less true or irrational than your own chosen religion. You are not going to be given brownie points for putting down other religions while elevating yours in a forum like this if that was your initial intention.

How can one through reason know that Jesus is the Son of God?

Frosbel, the christian bigot. Showing e-placard like that is NOT appealing to reason but to faith. And once that faith isn't there, then your e-placard becomes useless. Jesus dying for other people's "sins" can never be reasoned out, no matter how much you try. Sorry, but that's the truth.

frosbel:

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Nope. That is not love, but foolishness. Dying to atone for another person's sin is absolute insanity. Sorry, but your Jesus is lord of foolishness.

frosbel:

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The Jesus the Roma Catholic Church gave you? You might as well have Osiris, Mythras, Dyonisis, Krishna, Tammuz, etc to boot because they are all the same "Answers". Any questions?

frosbel:

^^

Suit yourself.

We shall know who is right in the due course of time.

Hahahaha! So, that's the main purpose of your existence, to see whether your fake religious ideologies are right in the end or not. What a loser. Once a bigot, always a bigot.

frosbel:

^^

Suit yourself.

We shall know who is right in the due course of time.

^^^^^^^^^^The love of The God of Jesus is Greater than what Jesus can ever have.

Remember, There is Greatest Umbrella. That belongs to God and Jesus is not God.

So, that's the main purpose of your existence, to see whether your fake religious ideologies are right in the end or not. What a loser. Once a bigot, always a bigot.

I live for a higher purpose , you live for today, which is basically no different than what animals exist for. Tell me, what difference is there between you and the lowest beasts of the field who live for the same purpose, eat , drink , work and tomorrow we start all over again.

You could pass away today , frail as we all are, and yet you are full of boasting and pride. Sad , but to see people like you live their lives to the end in great folly and subsequent destruction is sad to say the least.

May God open your eyes , and I believe he will in due course  

And Allah isn't GOD, either. He is just another pretender(GOD wannabe) like all the others.

Sweetnecta:

^^^^^^^^^^The love of The God of Jesus is Greater than what Jesus can ever have.

Remember, There is Greatest Umbrella. That belongs to God and Jesus is not God.

What is this "higher purpose" other than to be a BIGOT? FYI, that is amongst the lowest of purposes, bigot frosbel. Desist from further delusion about yourself.

frosbel:


I live for a higher purpose ,

You should learn from the animals because today(or this moment) is all you have and will ever have. Yesterday is gone(mere memory) and tommorrow will never come because when it does come it will still be your today, your NOW, whether you like it or not.

frosbel:

you live for today, which is basically no different than what animals exist for.

I am a sentient being who knows that I AM. What is the difference between you and a horse with blinkers? NONE. You stay in the past, forget the present and you fantasize about the future you know absolutely nothing of. You might as well be DEAD.

frosbel:

Tell me, what difference is there between you and the lowest beasts of the field who live for the same purpose, eat , drink , work and tomorrow we start all over again.

Everybody can pass away at anytime, bigot frosbel. What, are you afraid of death, because i am not.
You think i am boastful because i see your dog poo that you spread around the place for what it is. If seeing fake-ass ideologies being spouted by religious charlattans like you and saying right to your face is what you call "being boastful", then i stand guilty. 

frosbel:

You could pass away today , frail as we all are, and yet you are full of boasting and pride. Sad , but to see people like you live their lives to the end in great folly and subsequent destruction is sad to say the least.

Can Jesus be known through reason?