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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by igala1(m): 7:28am On Dec 01, 2023
I mentioned same in a comment yesterday. Natanyahu's days are numbered. Israeli government under him orchestrated this plan just to win opposition party sympathy for his reelection plot next year. He'd be held accountable for the murder if his own people.
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by mabea: 7:29am On Dec 01, 2023
Trashymods:
That we know....
I wish there will be a huge media campaign that will tag Isreali government the murderer of its own 1800 people and risk the life of over 600 as hostages.
Only Hitler knows why he hate them so much to the extent of cleansing.
Zionism is a very strong barbaric cult.
You mean you hate a fellow human this much to the extent of wiping off his entire generation. You better change because this often doesn't go well.

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by Blazebond(m): 7:31am On Dec 01, 2023
This two nations (Israel and the united states) are the worst countries on earth right now,their deceptiveness can only be rivalled by Satan,hamas and it's likes are terrorists groups and the world knows it and acknowledges it but what the world is coming to realize now is that the united states government and the Israeli government are also terrorists masquerading as saints.

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by HighTable(m): 7:32am On Dec 01, 2023
Israel used a risk:reward of 1:1000000, the war was a highly profitable trade for them. It was a highly intentional trade, not random or unexpected. They saw it coming a billion miles away.
Some experts are now uncovering that isreal trained hamas undercover, So the summary the Palestinians were betrayed by the people they look up to, Isreal was also betrayed by their own leaders.

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by drololaaof: 7:32am On Dec 01, 2023
[quote author=nairalanda1 post=127254305][/quote]
It is a woeful failure for the giant - how are the mighty fallen tell it not in Gath( Gaza) proclaim it not in Ashkelon .
The day King Saul was slain with his son Jonathan has repeated itself, but thank God that the attack is being contained with severe casualties on both side . Israel will prevail and win
The lesson is that human intelligence is limited and can fail . Never underestimate your enemy at all times. One wonder how is it possible for Hamas to construct the extensive tunnel network without israel knowing .

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by udemzyudex(m): 7:33am On Dec 01, 2023
All this new narratives are hogwash and attempt to promote hamas.
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by udemzyudex(m): 7:33am On Dec 01, 2023
Xwizard:
Forget the report, Israel trapped them (hamas)




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Egypt trap them too?
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by gigabyte13: 7:38am On Dec 01, 2023
Who said isreal does not know about the attack from intelligence sources...
They knew beforehand
But
There is this proverb that says
" When your enemy is making a mistake, don't correct them "
The main objective has always been to drive the Palestine out of Gaza into Iran, Lebanon, Egypt, wherever they can go, just stay put of GAZA.

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by ajailer(m): 7:39am On Dec 01, 2023
Israel knew about the October 7th attack to it’s very details but decided to use it to as an excuse to destroy Hamas, they were also willing to sacrifice a few number of their people’s life so as to have a justifiable reason to level out Gaza. CIA and many other intelligence outfit over the world knew too cos they would have been keeping tabs on the inflow of the sophisticated weapons used into Gaza. That was the reason why the Egyptian intelligence came out the next day on Israeli government’s complicity.

Bibi was looking for a way to shore up his political support, hence the October 7th event.

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by jonadaft: 7:40am On Dec 01, 2023
Antoeni:
And This Prepared to Give Them The Wotowoto, Hamas Will Never Forget in a Hurry
Or deh
Will Israel forget their loss in a hurry?
Just yesterday, various attacks was carried out right in Israel. This war is not one-way.

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by jonadaft: 7:41am On Dec 01, 2023
Shedrack777:
israel is wise. they know of the plan, but they wanted hamas to strike before giving it back to them in thousand ways
That's not close to being smart.
It's utter stupidity
Thousands of Israelis have been kìlled, where is the smartness?

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by jeromestarks: 7:41am On Dec 01, 2023
Trashymods:
That we know....
I wish there will be a huge media campaign that will tag Isreali government the murderer of its own 1800 people and risk the life of over 600 as hostages.
Only Hitler knows why he hate them so much to the extent of cleansing.
Zionism is a very strong barbaric cult.
Why would Hamas plan to attack in the first place?

How can Hamaz sit and plan evil. Is that what Mohammed taught them?
Is that what Islam stands for?

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by Trashymods: 7:43am On Dec 01, 2023
sulaimania2003:
Israel is overrated.If not for USA and Uk fighting theIr battle financially and weapon wise .
How many Hamas have they killed ?Just destroying houses and killing Palestinian children.
Despite talking control of Palestine,they still have to beg to reach an agreement with Hamas to exchange prisoners for the abducted people .
Where is Palestine did the Hamas hide those people that they dont know , where are they bringing them from .
Some senseless people here will call them Intelligence people.We all saw there stupid stunt as they try to prove at the Shifa hospital but they still failed .
Even China warn them of this same attack but they ignore the warning .
Now that terrorist Netanyahu is doing everything to keep is job and get the abducted back home.
The Palestinians need only one thing and that is FREEDOM and nothing else .
You take there land ,take there house ,kill them and push them to the wall and expect them not to fight back in there own little way .
You control their water , food,life and still a Israelite will just go to any Palestinian home that they have been living for centuries and claim it that God gave it to him and the Israel forces will drive the Palestinians out for the Israelites to occupy the land or house just like that and you expect them to keep silent ?
The jew kill christians in Israel everyday and they dont believe is Jesus and call Jesus a scam snd thief .
But still in Nigeria some people dont even know if there are christians or Jew.
Yeye people
Go to Tel aviv and claim one kind strong head christianity and see your self get killed for nothing .(Evidence dey)
All these places you visit during pilgrim,it is the Palestinians people that are taking care of them and keeping them safe .
Google and know how many christians get killed for nothing in Israel every year .
One thing is sure ,ONE DAY PALESTINE WILL BE FREE FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA
Samething one ex British elite force said..
Mosad are just overated. They lack tactics.
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by NzogbuNzogbu: 7:44am On Dec 01, 2023
Stephench:

To you guys, Israeli incompetencies are strategies. You guts are a joke. This is not the first time Israeli intelligence is failing abruptly.
even your pro hamas comrades are blaming israel for not stopping hamas rather than taking this general route

If that isn't strategic to you I don't know what is

Today israel can confidently erase hamas, occupy gaza militarily, and even use gaza as leverage instead of the pipe dream two state solution

You would be begging israel now to allow southern Gaza people to get back to north than you are talking about sharing israel mainland

You would be ready to give anything now to have gaza return to statos quo, wait till hamas exhaust all hostage first before you know howfar

If I can borrow the words of netanyahu during his UN presentation he said for long arab states have insisted only a two state solution can make them friends with israel but actually that can be achieved without such

This was what hamas heard and one week later attacked cos the dying horse must give last kick

Gaza would become palestine state very soon and the world would have peace
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by Trashymods: 7:46am On Dec 01, 2023
jeromestarks:

Why would Hamas plan to attack in the first place?

How can Hamaz sit and plan evil. Is that what Mohammed taught them?
Is that what Islam stands for?
Until when you understand what it means to be undersiege, then you will understand hamas struggle. In that region, what Hamas stand for is freedom and terrorist as gullible Africans sees them. Why the mass protest in support of Palestinians all over the world this time around.
That war is not religions war, its a fight for freedom.

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by jeff1993: 7:47am On Dec 01, 2023
Trashymods:

Off point... Zero Comprehension.
Gettat...
..... Terrorist sympathizer!!! .... Head slamming Donkey
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by nairalanda1(m): 7:50am On Dec 01, 2023
drololaaof:

It is a woeful failure for the giant - how are the mighty fallen tell it not in Gath( Gaza) proclaim it not in Ashkelon .
The day King Saul was slain with his son Jonathan has repeated itself, but thank God that the attack is being contained with severe casualties on both side . Israel will prevail and win
The lesson is that human intelligence is limited and can fail . Never underestimate your enemy at all times. One wonder how is it possible for Hamas to construct the extensive tunnel network without israel knowing .

Human intelligence is indeed limited.
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by Stephench: 7:51am On Dec 01, 2023
NzogbuNzogbu:
even your pro hamas comrades are blaming israel for not stopping hamas rather than taking this general route

If that isn't strategic to you I don't know what is

Today israel can confidently erase hamas, occupy gaza militarily, and even use gaza as leverage instead of the pipe dream two state solution

You would be begging israel now to allow southern Gaza people to get back to north than you are talking about sharing israel mainland

You would be ready to give anything now to have gaza return to statos quo, wait till hamas exhaust all hostage first before you know howfar

You're a complete joke. What's my business with Hamas? I'm just talking about facts and common sense. Regardless whatever opportunity you think their ineptitudes will grant them, they've displayed incompetence severally.

They're an elite force but they're not invisible like you jokers make them seem. They are not omnipotent, omnipresent and omnipresent but you guys present them as such.

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by nairalanda1(m): 7:51am On Dec 01, 2023
Jeezuzpick:


Forget Israel.

What of Nigeria, where terrorists keep launching successful attacks all the time, killing and kidnapping without consequence?

When will we talk about that?

Mmmmmmm?

This is the Foreign Affairs board where we talk about,y'know, foreign affairs...
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by Crafteck1: 7:51am On Dec 01, 2023
Trashymods:
That we know....
I wish there will be a huge media campaign that will tag Isreali government the murderer of its own 1800 people and risk the life of over 600 as hostages.
Only Hitler knows why he hate them so much to the extent of cleansing.
Zionism is a very strong barbaric cult.

Stop describing islam abeg
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by lexy2014: 7:52am On Dec 01, 2023
JoeDz:
That was a great price to pay

not saying it is definite but its very possible especially since Netenyahu is under scrutiny for corruption. politicians can use such things as a diversion

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by millstone(m): 7:52am On Dec 01, 2023
SoNature:


No, that's not what happened.

The report says that Israel didn't think that Hamas had the guts to execute the plan that's why Israel dismissed it.
That's what Israel wants the world to believe. That they dismissed it. How on God's green earth will Israel dismiss a plot by a known Terrorist organization and a state that hates their guts. It's just like doubting that the US had no idea of the 9/11 attack. Just as back then Bush and Cheney needed a good reason to invade the middle east under the guise of war on terror but to rather plunder their oil and military loot. Israel just needed a reason to reduce their numbers drastically. I refuse to believe that the CIA and Israeli Special Intelligence Agency didn't know about 9/11 and Hamas attacks

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by CommonSense1967: 7:52am On Dec 01, 2023
Over hyped apartheid terrorist state of Israel.
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by PurestBoy(m): 7:53am On Dec 01, 2023
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This is what actually happened, nobody can tell me Mossad was not aware of planned attack on October 7th, they just need good reason to teach them lessons
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by jeromestarks: 7:53am On Dec 01, 2023
Trashymods:

Until when you understand what it means to be undersiege, then you will understand hamas struggle. In that region, what Hamas stand for is freedom and terrorist as gullible Africans sees them. Why the mass protest in support of Palestinians all over the world this time around.
That war is not religions war, its a fight for freedom.
Then Hamaz is stupid!

You want freedom in this age and you want to get it through war? Hamaz is so so foolish. You're also foolish for thinking Hamaz can get "freedom" through war.

Palestinians should have done it diplomatically.

Can they defeat Israel?
Can they win the war?
Why start what you can't finish?

It's not a fight for freedom. It's a war against Jews fueled by some stupid Islamic sets.

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by ruggedtimi(m): 7:53am On Dec 01, 2023
Funkyswagzz:


Lol how can you believe that.. isreal has the best spy in the world.
from this particular article israel knew about hamas plans bt didnt know abut the exact date of they will attack and israel didnt expect hamas to execute it. Anything contrary to above statement from the article are just speculations.

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by Crafteck1: 7:53am On Dec 01, 2023
AbuTwins:


Only fools don't know that Israel and its god USA are terrorists!

You mean most islamic countries

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by TemmyT002(m): 7:54am On Dec 01, 2023
They deliberately didnt do anything so that they will use the opportunity to attack them directly.
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by Crafteck1: 7:56am On Dec 01, 2023
Trashymods:

No that's not true.
They knew about the attack, the day of the attack, the equipment deployed to be use etc but the ZIONISTS choose to kill its own people just to kill babies, kids, women and the weak in gaza.


Islam got you believing this? Of what interest is it to isreal to kill babies, hamas was already doing a good job of killing civilians before going to look for isreal wahala..

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Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by NzogbuNzogbu: 7:58am On Dec 01, 2023
Trashymods:

Until when you understand what it means to be undersiege, then you will understand hamas struggle. In that region, what Hamas stand for is freedom and terrorist as gullible Africans sees them. Why the mass protest in support of Palestinians all over the world this time around.
That war is not religions war, its a fight for freedom.
mass protest means nothing, people can be protesting in error, especially when the march is coming from the lgbtq lefties seeking attention

Hamas is terrorist organization using its people as sheild not freedom fighters, why don't they fight israel in open field instead of this enter tunnel enter civilan spaces?

Israel is at their doormat shey it's what they have been asking for?

Under seige yet you have the resources to be building tunnels, buying weapons, they can turn gaza to a nation of its own if they want

Their are countries half gaza size, if they show commitment egypt can add some territory to theirs at that time of responsibility israel would competely lift their blockade as a nation

For now they want to be using israel economy and freebies yet hating and terrorizing israel
Re: Israel Knew Of Hamas' Plan A Year Ago (New York Times) by nairalanda1(m): 7:59am On Dec 01, 2023
Trashymods:

No that's not true.
They knew about the attack, the day of the attack, the equipment deployed to be use etc but the ZIONISTS choose to kill its own people just to kill babies, kids, women and the weak in gaza.

As the report said, they did not know the day of the attack. They knew everything else.

Intelligence is just information. Leaders ultimately make the decision as to how the info is used.

And many times they make the wrong decision. Seen above.

During ww2, Stalin of the USSR got accurate information from several sources indicating that Nazi Germany was planning an attack. The guy chose not to believe ( he had signed a non aggression pact with Germany and Germany was reliant on exports of Soviet grain). As history tells us, he was wrong.

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