achorladey:


So you know that cornelboy who started as a male singer then all of a sudden changed to female singer who goes round hailing his madness and insanities peddling here

The guy is a low intelligence stalker with nothing to offer. He came here to hype his God MaxinDHouse.

ayokashry1:



Bornagain is the deposit of the spirit of Christ in a man who acknowledges his sins, acknowledge the Lord as saviour and repents.
The thief acknowledge himself as a sinner, acknowledge the Lord as his saviour and even demonstrated his faith in God's promised kingdom and requested that Jesus should remember him. Thus, those that call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Salvation is of the Lord and whosoever he wills he saves.
I'll have mercy on whom I'll have mercy.

Thank you!

If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

The thief believe Jesus by first declare him as Jesus or Lord, then with his heart stated a truth that..... Jesus did no wrong and equally believed Jesus will be resurrected, the reason the thief knowing he was a KING of God's kingdom that Jesus should remember him

For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

The thief did the above within the limited space of time he has

As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

MaxInDHouse:


So how is the man's case better than that of Nicodemus who also acknowledged Jesus yet Jesus insisted that Nicodemus must be BORN AGAIN? John 3:3-5

BORN AGAIN doesn't mean acknowledgement but actions must be taken:
Must be baptized in water and anointed with God's Holy Spirit that's what Jesus taught when he mentioned BORN AGAIN not just acknowledgement! John 3:3-5

Peddling madness and Insanities as usual.

So how is the man's case better than that of Nicodemus who also acknowledged Jesus yet Jesus insisted that Nicodemus must be BORN AGAIN? John 3:3-5

Jesus replied: “Are you a teacher of Israel and yet do not know these things? 11 Most truly I say to you, what we know we speak, and what we have seen we bear witness to, but you do not receive the witness we give.

The little the thief know about Jesus he received it up to the extent of saying Jesus should remember him in his kingdom.

BORN AGAIN doesn't mean acknowledgement but actions must be taken:

In your madness and insanities peddling brains the thief didn't take action. You have raised immersion in water aka baptism the SYMBOL up and above what it represents

Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.

The thief made an appeal to the right person and the right office to get a good conscience and you bet the thief has that right conscience even before death

Must be baptized in water and anointed with God's Holy Spirit that's what Jesus taught when he mentioned BORN AGAIN not just acknowledgement! John 3:3-5

Who promised that spirit, the same Jesus right? We know MaxInDHouse is not the one who anoint people with spirit

Remain in your lane and stop peddling arrogance as Bible knowledge packed into lying and manipulating brains

tctrills:

The guy is a low intelligence stalker with nothing to offer. He came here to hype his God MaxinDHouse.

From their watchtower......


On the basis of Christ’s sacrifice, Jehovah forgives the sins of those who exercise faith. He accepts as his worshippers those who dedicate themselves to him. Jehovah declares anointed Christians righteous as his sons.....(Born again aka 144,000 only which the remaining numbers of the 144,000 can only be found in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses) (John 10:16 is the supporting scripture for it)


and those of the “other sheep” righteous as his friends. (John 10:16; Rom. 5:1, 2; Jas. 2:21-25)...... every other person not part of the 144,000

So even now, the ransom enables us to have a righteous standing with our Father and to share in the sanctification of his name.

cornelboy:

Hahaha 🤣
He will soon say the two robbers were born again

Please give us the list of all born again people since you guys keep the record.

tctrills:

Please give us the list of all born again people since you guys keep the record.

We may not know all the BORN AGAIN but we know what they can and what they will never ever do!

MaxInDHouse:


We may not know all the BORN AGAIN but we know what they can and what they will never ever do!

So you think they don't commit sin right? Is that what the bible says or what your church says?

tctrills:

So you think they don't commit sin right? Is that what the bible says or what your church says?

When talking about SIN it's blunders having to do with our faith for instance Peter denied Jesus before the Jews he also denied his fellow believers because of fear of man but he can never ever be accused as an armed robber.

That's why it's difficult for haters of pure worship to find JWs accused under the law the only thing they keep saying is that JWs are molesting their children yet no single outsider can say a JW molest his or her child.

So SIN has to do with thing about our faith not crime against societal rules that will affect the outsiders, the criminals executed alongside Jesus were hardened criminals their case isn't SIN that can't be defined under the law.

MaxInDHouse:


When talking about SIN it's blunders having to do with our faith for instance Peter denied Jesus before the Jews he also denied his fellow believers because of fear of man but he can never ever be accused as an armed robber.

That's why it's difficult for haters of pure worship to find JWs accused under the law the only thing they keep saying is that JWs are molesting their children yet no single outsider can say a JW molest his or her child.

So SIN has to do with thing about our faith not crime against societal rules that will affect the outsiders, the criminals executed alongside Jesus were hardened criminals their case isn't SIN that can't be defined under the law.

This is your personal opinion. Please which scripture tells you the kind of sins born again commit and the sins they can't commit.
Or are you just making things up just for the sake of this argument?

MaxInDHouse:


When talking about SIN it's blunders having to do with our faith for instance Peter denied Jesus before the Jews he also denied his fellow believers because of fear of man but he can never ever be accused as an armed robber.

That's why it's difficult for haters of pure worship to find JWs accused under the law the only thing they keep saying is that JWs are molesting their children yet no single outsider can say a JW molest his or her child.

So SIN has to do with thing about our faith not crime against societal rules that will affect the outsiders, the criminals executed alongside Jesus were hardened criminals their case isn't SIN that can't be defined under the law.

Also can you give me the list of sins that born agains are allowed to commit and those that they are not allowed to commit.

tctrills:

This is your personal opinion. Please which scripture tells you the kind of sins born again commit and the sins they can't commit.
Or are you just making things up just for the sake of this argument?

tctrills:

Also can you give me the list of sins that born agains are allowed to commit and those that they are not allowed to commit.

A BORN AGAIN Christian can not commit a crime having to do with societal rules
So listen to what apostle Peter said about the crimes BORN AGAIN aren't supposed to be accused of:

Let none of you suffer as a MURDERER or a THIEF or a WRONGDOER or a BUSYBODY in other people’s matters. 1Peter 4:15

*Raising weapons to kill someone.
*Stealing, robbery or fraud.
*Making life difficult for ones neighbour.
*Going about spreading false accusations.

Those criminals were sentenced to death for such crimes because it's punishable in the laws of all society!

MaxInDHouse:




A BORN AGAIN Christian can not commit a crime having to do with societal rules
So listen to what apostle Peter said about the crimes BORN AGAIN aren't supposed to be accused of:

Let none of you suffer as a MURDERER or a THIEF or a WRONGDOER or a BUSYBODY in other people’s matters. 1Peter 4:15

*Raising weapons to kill someone.
*Stealing, robbery or fraud.
*Making life difficult for ones neighbour.
*Going about spreading false accusations.

Those criminals were sentenced to death for such crimes because it's punishable in the laws of all society!

So you seem a bit confused here. The bible condemns all sin.
Peter never said those are sins born agains can not commit
Please were is it written by peter that these commandments are only for born agains?
Start talking abeg

tctrills:

So you seem a bit confused here. The bible condemns all sin.
Peter never said those are sins born agains can not commit
Please were is it written by peter that these commandments are only for born agains?
Start talking abeg

Was Peter addressing all the people in the world or wrote a letter to his fellow BORN AGAIN Christians?

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the temporary residents scattered about in Ponʹtus, Ga·laʹti·a, Cap·pa·doʹci·a, Asia, and Bi·thynʹi·a, to those chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, with sanctification by the spirit, for the purpose of being obedient and sprinkled with the blood of Jesus Christ: May undeserved kindness and peace be increased to you. 1Peter 1:1-2

MaxInDHouse:


Was Peter addressing all the people in the world or wrote a letter to his fellow BORN AGAIN Christians?

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the temporary residents scattered about in Ponʹtus, Ga·laʹti·a, Cap·pa·doʹci·a, Asia, and Bi·thynʹi·a, to those chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, with sanctification by the spirit, for the purpose of being obedient and sprinkled with the blood of Jesus Christ: May undeserved kindness and peace be increased to you. 1Peter 1:1-2

2 things here,

1. I did not ask you to look for a passage where peter warned against a few sins. Please pay attention. I asked you to look for any passage that lists the sins born agains can't commit

2. The fact 5hst Peter was writing these things to the church and warning them again these sin is enough evidence to show that members of 5he early church were not beyond these sins.
If they were, Peter would have no reason to warn them.

This is evidence that even born again Christians could fall for the listed sins above.
You just made my point.

Also can a born again commit fornication because Paul also warned the church against it?

tctrills:

2 things here,
1. I did not ask you to look for a passage where peter warned against a few sins. Please pay attention. I asked you to look for any passage that lists the sins born agains can't commit
2. The fact 5hst Peter was writing these things to the church and warning them again these sin is enough evidence to show that members of 5he early church were not beyond these sins.
If they were, Peter would have no reason to warn them.
This is evidence that even born again Christians could fall for the listed sins above.
You just made my point.
Also can a born again commit fornication because Paul also warned the church against it?

Those aren't SIN they're CRIME so if anyone should fall under this category he can't be a BORN AGAIN Christian but he can be helped to gain salvation that's what Peter meant there.

Verse 2 of 1Peter chapter 1 clearly stated that Peter was addressing BORN AGAIN Christians and chapter 4:15 expressly stated CRIMES a BORN AGAIN Christian must not be accused of.

Ọmọ nah Max be this o no be your usual churchgoer friends so before arguing blindly read again and tell the forum why Peter only listed few things when there are so many things people can commit as SIN!

Don't loose your cool, your answer is to know Jehovah, finish!

tctrills:
In the book of John 17.3, we learn, And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

If eternal life is the knowledge of God and Jesus Christ, then what does it mean to know God.

Do you know God from reading your Bible?
Do you know God by being a Christian?
How does one get to know God?

tctrills:

Please give us the list of all born again people since you guys keep the record.

Was the thief that was promised paradise born again?

Lol 😂😂😂

MaxInDHouse:


Those aren't SIN they're CRIME so if anyone should fall under this category he can't be a BORN AGAIN Christian but he can be helped to gain salvation that's what Peter meant there.

Verse 2 of 1Peter chapter 1 clearly stated that Peter was addressing BORN AGAIN Christians and chapter 4:15 expressly stated CRIMES a BORN AGAIN Christian must not be accused of.

Ọmọ nah Max be this o no be your usual churchgoer friends so before arguing blindly read again and tell the forum why Peter only listed few things when there are so many things people can commit as SIN!

Calm down. The point is, if it is impossible for a born again to commit these crimes, Peter would have had no reason to preach against them.
The only reason he preached against these crimes was because he knew that some of his people could commit these crimes.
So that proves my point. Even born again Christians can fall for such crimes hence the need for Peter to preach against it.

An example here,
Would you preach against pornography to a school of blind/deaf men?
Only a fool would do that because they are not capable of such even if they tried.
Peter preached against the listed crimes because the born agains were capable of commiting everyone of them.

The verse you quoted is a prove that born again Christians can steal.

Or do you want to take back that verse?

tctrills:

Calm down. The point is, if it is impossible for a born again to commit these crimes, Peter would have had no reason to preach against them.
The only reason he preached against these crimes was because he knew that some of his people could commit these crimes.

NO!
BORN AGAIN Christians are chosen people who have always lived by conscience even before they accept Christianity that's why you will notice that the one and only thief among Jesus' closest confidants (Judas Iscariot) never made it to the day of anointing by Holy Spirit! John 12:4-6

So when Peter was addressing BORN AGAIN Christians he emphasized what could jeopardize their anointing as BORN AGAIN Christians therefore those two thieves are not BORN AGAIN Christians!

MaxInDHouse:


NO!
BORN AGAIN Christians are chosen people who have always lived by conscience even before they accept Christianity that's why you will notice that the one and only thief among Jesus' closest confidants (Judas Iscariot) never made it to the day of anointing by Holy Spirit! John 12:4-6

So when Peter was addressing BORN AGAIN Christians he emphasized what could jeopardize their anointing as BORN AGAIN Christians therefore those two thieves are not BORN AGAIN Christians!

Yes sin would jeopardize anyone's anointing but the question remains, would peter warn them 8f he knew it was impossible for them to commit such sins?
You seem to know the truth but you just can't take it and I understand why

cornelboy:

Was the thief that was promised paradise born again?

Boss I don't know, was he?

tctrills:

Boss I don't know, was he?

Okay

cornelboy:

Okay

Honestly I don't know because it was not mentioned in the bible but I am assuming that you know. Can you tell me please?

MaxInDHouse:


NO!
BORN AGAIN Christians are chosen people who have always lived by conscience even before they accept Christianity that's why you will notice that the one and only thief among Jesus' closest confidants (Judas Iscariot) never made it to the day of anointing by Holy Spirit! John 12:4-6

So when Peter was addressing BORN AGAIN Christians he emphasized what could jeopardize their anointing as BORN AGAIN Christians therefore those two thieves are not BORN AGAIN Christians!

Let me summarize the JW point of view here.

Peter knew that the born again cannot commit the stated crimes yet he took his time to warn them to prevent them from commiting sins that he knew the can never commit.

If I am a JW, me too would be ashamed of this doctrine so I perfectly understand.
Would they have committed the sins if he had not warned them?
The more I debate with JW, the more they prove my point.

tctrills:

Yes sin would jeopardize anyone's anointing but the question remains, would peter warn them 8f he knew it was impossible for them to commit such sins? You seem to know the truth but you just can't take it and I understand why

You need to humble yourself if you want to learn.
SIN is about religion so what one religion take as sin may differ totally from another but when talking about those things Peter mentioned they are CRIME in all religions and societies.
So the only sin (religious blunder) that could jeopardize the salvation of anyone is speaking against what the Holy Spirit is working out through the hands of imperfect humans.

tctrills:

Let me summarize the JW point of view here.
Peter knew that the born again cannot commit the stated crimes yet he took his time to warn them to prevent them from commiting sins that he knew the can never commit.
If I am a JW, me too would be ashamed of this doctrine so I perfectly understand.
Would they have committed the sins if he had not warned them?
The more I debate with JW, the more they prove my point.

Continue deceiving yourself.

Peter said a BORN AGAIN Christian can suffer in the hands of the authority but they should make sure that they are never accused of those things.

Now this is what Peter means:

Never be a friend to anyone practicing those things so you may not be mistaken as one of them:

The one walking with the wise will become wise, But the one who has dealings with the stupid will fare badly. Proverbs 13:20

Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits. 1Corinthians 15:33

That's the principle!

cornelboy:

Was the thief that was promised paradise born again?

Madness and insanities peddling peddler, you purposely kept repeating the question after providing answer already.

You want him to join you in the madness and insanities peddling of speculations and assumptions packed into your brains by your GODS

MaxInDHouse:


We may not know all the BORN AGAIN but we know what they can and what they will never ever do!

Ratted out there is always a BUT BUT legalisms that kept the madness and insanities peddling in your brains in place.

what they can and what they will never ever do!

Based on what your GODS call truth that changes to lies

MaxInDHouse:


When talking about SIN it's blunders having to do with our faith for instance Peter denied Jesus before the Jews he also denied his fellow believers because of fear of man but he can never ever be accused as an armed robber.

That's why it's difficult for haters of pure worship to find JWs accused under the law the only thing they keep saying is that JWs are molesting their children yet no single outsider can say a JW molest his or her child.

So SIN has to do with thing about our faith not crime against societal rules that will affect the outsiders, the criminals executed alongside Jesus were hardened criminals their case isn't SIN that can't be defined under the law.

When talking about SIN it's blunders having to do with our faith for instance Peter denied Jesus before the Jews he also denied his fellow believers because of fear of man but he can never ever be accused as an armed robber.

The bold shows the extent of madness and insanities peddling brains laced with lies and manipulations. He can be accused of anything as long as it comes under the term accusation. Apply your intelligence. Jesus was accused of so many things. See person bragging about others being arrogant and not ready to learn. Dead point.

That's why it's difficult for haters of pure worship to find JWs accused under the law the only thing they keep saying is that JWs are molesting their children yet no single outsider can say a JW molest his or her child.

Another madness and insanities peddling from your brains . The liar and manipulator said no outsiders can say a Jehovah’s witnesses molest his or her child . You will think he has all the records in those drowned ex military intelligence brains replaced with madness and insanities peddling . The child abuse of Jehovah's Witnesses by Jehovah’s witnesses is not against the law

So SIN has to do with thing about our faith not crime against societal rules that will affect the outsiders, the criminals executed alongside Jesus were hardened criminals their case isn't SIN that can't be defined under the law.

Let's analyse the madness and insanities peddling here......

So SIN has to do with thing about our faith not crime against societal rules

Let's start with how your GODS define SIN

Sin is any action, feeling, or thought that goes against God’s standards. It includes breaking God’s laws by doing what is wrong, or unrighteous, in God’s sight.

Stealing, child abuse and molestation, in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses against fellow Jehovah’s witnesses is only a SIN according to MaxInDHouse the madness and insanities peddling but not a sin or crime against the societal rules that affect outsiders. This is one of the madness and insanities peddling I talked about

the criminals executed alongside Jesus were hardened criminals their case isn't SIN that can't be defined under the law.

tctrills you need to grill this madness and insanities peddling peddler in order to expose his madness and insanities peddling. See why....


They are hardened criminal and their sins can't be defined under the law. How?

These same hardened criminal were sentenced to death based on what now? Imagine MaxInDHouse saying their sin cannot be defined under the law and yet he call them hardened criminals

Delusion, madness and insanities peddling at its peak

MaxInDHouse:


Continue deceiving yourself.

Peter said a BORN AGAIN Christian can suffer in the hands of the authority but they should make sure that they are never accused of those things.

Now this is what Peter means:

Never be a friend to anyone practicing those things so you may not be mistaken as one of them:

The one walking with the wise will become wise, But the one who has dealings with the stupid will fare badly. Proverbs 13:20

Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits. 1Corinthians 15:33

That's the principle!

so back to my original questions, which bible verse talks about sins born again cannot commit, and which verse talks about the sins they can commit?