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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 5:45pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:



Even the Ogiso dynasty and Igodomigodo was founded by Ile Ife


grin

If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of Benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished Benin Palace Praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled
u see why i dey always call u ozuor

u be perfect example of ozuor

Igodo founded Ogiso
izoduwa - odudduwa founded the current yoruba
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Abagworo(m): 5:46pm On Dec 06, 2023
There was nothing like Yoruba in history so any write up based on addressing it as Yoruba is null and void. What existed in the past were settlements of modern day Igala and Yoruba whom the slaves of same origin identified as "Lukumi" an Igala phrase for "My Friend". The present day Yoruba translation is "Oremi" .
The equivalent of Benin then was Oyo before Yoruba was created by the returnee slaves and Europeans by merging related groups together under one umbrella and adopting Oyo as their general language.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by infofta(m): 5:48pm On Dec 06, 2023
The first Oba of Ile Ife was a Bini Prince who left Bini Kingdom during a dispute/fight for the throne. The same Ife Yoruba people trace their origin to.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Dagrace01(m): 5:48pm On Dec 06, 2023
Who take Oba Ewure or Ewuare serious don't have time.
Yoruba has a well documented history that have stood the test of time.
Even before the advent of the history books, we have alo and itan told by our fathers and forefathers.
"Ti Omode o ba ba itan, a ba aroba, aroba sini ni baba itan"
Lagos history isn't something we should even debate

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by casppyjay: 5:49pm On Dec 06, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
Oldest history books say Yoruba not Benin founded Lagos



https://punchng.com/oldest-history-books-say-yoruba-not-benin-founded-lagos/


The Kingdom of Benin was a major center of learning and trade, but in the 17th century, it also became a major source of slaves for the colonization of the Americas. From the 15th century, however, Benin was famous for its "bronze" sculptures, which were made from metal rings called manillas imported by the Portuguese. The sculptures often portrayed eminent people in a unique style, and thousands were stolen and exported around the world after the kingdom was conquered by Britain in 1897.

The region then became part of colonial Nigeria and then part of independent Nigeria in 1960; Nigeria has called for the "Benin bronzes" to be returned to the country
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by absoluteSuccess: 5:49pm On Dec 06, 2023
Abagworo:
There was nothing like Yoruba in history so any write up based on addressing it as Yoruba is null and void. What existed in the past were settlements of modern day Igala and Yoruba whom the slaves of same origin identified as "Lukumi" an Igala phrase for "My Friend". The present day Yoruba translation is "Oremi" .
The equivalent of Benin then was Oyo before Yoruba was created by the returnee slaves and Europeans by merging related groups together under one umbrella and adopting Oyo as their general language.

LOL

The name Yoruba was mentioned along 12 other tribal names by Ibn Baba, a Timbuktu scholar and writer of “Mi'raj al-Su’ud”, written in the year 1615. At this time, it has not entered any European source where returning slave would have picked it.

You may have to update your "blind spot" as regard this.

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 5:52pm On Dec 06, 2023
SayNo2SmallPrik:

you better wake up. no be only Lagos
every Edo man, dead or alive knows we own Eko

right from childhood, we were already told in school in Edo language and heritage

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by thinkmoney(m): 5:54pm On Dec 06, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
It remains a shame that there was even an attempt to use dishonest means to revise history and suggest that the original owners of the land are now the bini settlers. Haba!What a fraud!

It's so sad and it's a lesson to communities currently giving land to settlers to ensure that they keep records very well like our Yoruba forebears did. Kudos to our forebears for keeping accurate records for a period like this. They had the foresight that some of the descendants of the settlers may some day lie that they own the land.

But for these history books that documented who owns Lagos, none of our forebears would have ever proven to us that the had an inkling that some day the descendants of bini visitors in Lagos will some day covet and brazenly lie that they own Lagos. Ha! Aiye ma nika o.

Asari Dokubo was absolutely right in his account and his anger at the Oba of Benin was because the Oba of Benin even removed the assistance his Ijaw gave to the Benin who attacked that part of Yorubaland.

It's been one lie after another further diminishing the Benin in the eyes of many. From the bursting of the Benin lie that the Oba of Benin never leaves the palace , internet era came and exposed the blatant lie. Next was lie that they did not originate from Ile Ife and heads of past Oba of Benin were not buried in Ile Ife but the Yoruba elders were so clever to preserve the history and location in Ile Ife till date. The 3rd lie is the attempt to claim a land that does not belong to them not knowing that the Yoruba documented it well.

The only reason I think they lie in this manner is pride. Now pride has led to fall.

Below is a picture that shows how far behind the Oba of Benin is behind the Ooni of Ife. This picture, all other evidences including the Orun Oba Ado in Ile Ife and oldest history books is the triumph of history over lies. Check my signature for free stuffs!
The king may have not mentioned it the correct way, but what is the fact and that does happen often in ancient time is that Benins defeated Lagos and confiscated it. They set up a monarchy that became the focal point of Lagos.
Lagos paid tributes for more than 300years. This is an acceptance of Benin lordship over Lagos. Benins were effectively the landlord (may not be landowners) of Lagos all those time.
It’s only in 1860, about 150 years ago that Lagos got independence from Benin when they stopped paying tax and tributes to them after political wranglings. Still, the royal house in Eko now which is still arguably the most important in the whole of Lagos is of Benin ancestry.
This are the facts. No need to drag issues unnecessarily

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 5:55pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:

u see why i dey always call u ozuor

u be perfect example of ozuor

Igodo founded Ogiso
izoduwa - odudduwa founded the current yoruba


Your first Ogiso Obagodo who founded Igodomigodo Kingdom and the Ogiso dynasty was also known as Ogiso Igodo
Igodomigodo was named after him .

Obagodo was Yoruba for Oba Igodo

Na Ife born Bennin
Any other Story is a lie

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Ijaya123: 5:56pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:


Forget about the first Oba of Benin

Even the Ogiso dynasty whose Ekhalerderhan Crown Prince they said got lost and Igodomigodo Kingdom itself that became Benin was founded by Obagodo an Ife Man sent with his entourage from Ile Ife

You see that entire Benin Kingdom , The Throne the Crown,and the Previous Igodomigodo Kingdom, Ogiso dynasty and Oba dynasty na Ile Ife born all of Dem!!!

I for like make those clowns come respond ni

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 5:56pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:


Your first Ogiso Obagodo who founded Igodomigodo Kingdom and the Ogiso dynasty was also known as Ogiso Igodo
Igodomigodo was named after him
please where did ur obagodo came from in ur yoruba land?
who is the father of obagodo? abi he too fell from the sky?
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 5:59pm On Dec 06, 2023
Ijaya123:


I for like make those clowns come respond ni

Imagine !!
they made us research and research until we discovered that it was even Ile Ife that Founded both Benin itself and the Ogiso dynasty whose Ekhalerderhan Crown Prince they said got lost

There is just no Wisdom against God Almighty

To fight the Truth is to fight God

All Glory and Honour be to his Mighty Name

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by ZKOSOSO(m): 5:59pm On Dec 06, 2023
Edos own Lagos. Shikena

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by thinkmoney(m): 6:00pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:

Look,
Benin Cannot even Swim not to talk of fighting the Awori and Ijebus who can swim like fish in Water

When it get down to the Wire and you dig deeper you will discover that the people who actually ran the show were the Itsekiri who even had Ijebu roots anyway

Na Itsekiri carry Benin come Lagos

And the Itsekiri even consider themselves to be Yoruba' People anyway

Benin People cannot Swim and they Cannot Canoe
So Benin defeating Awori and Ijebus on Water is out of the Question

Just say it was the Itsekiri
And the Itsekiri had Ijebu roots
Una no sabi history. Una just dey look at history from the prism of those Yoruba abija wara bi ekun movies. Warri was an ally of Benin. Warris force is effectively the naval force of Benin. Benin had overwhelmingly influence and control over this people.
Wetin be the meany of people fit swim and people no fit swim? I believe I think ear then like u see in Yoruba films is made up of like ten people against some 15people carrying only jazz. War then was the movement of thousand of people with armor, helmets, guns, few horses (as it’s the case with Benin), spears and hundreds of Boats of different sizes.

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by emonis88: 6:00pm On Dec 06, 2023
All this wahala started when politicians put in division in d guise of MC warning Igbos not to come out to vote, now there is claim n counter claims on d same Lagos. We need other cities, so this emphasis on Lagos go end, if them want to cook n eat the Lagos, they then can.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Ubanz: 6:01pm On Dec 06, 2023
Everything still boils down to the Bini's being the founder of the then Eko,they collected taxes, they were the lord's of the manor on the days of yore.
Case closed.
All the oldest history books quoted were written in the 20th century meanwhile the Benin Empire has been since the 11th century till the dawn of the 19th century.

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Boyooosa(m): 6:01pm On Dec 06, 2023
Procashtips:


War with who?

Do you have any evidence of a war with anyone in the land before the Benins named it Eko (camp)?

Did ancestral Binis meet anyone in the land when they went there, before naming it Eko?
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:02pm On Dec 06, 2023
thinkmoney:

Una no sabi history. Una just dey look at history from the prism of those Yoruba abija wara bi ekun movies. Warri was an ally of Benin. Warris force is effectively the naval force of Benin. Benin had overwhelmingly influence and control over this people.
Wetin be the meany of people fit swim and people no fit swim? I believe I think ear then like u see in Yoruba films is made up of like ten people against some 15people carrying only jazz. War then was the movement of thousand of people with armor, helmets, guns, few horses (as it’s the case with Benin), spears and hundreds of Boats of different sizes.


Look!!

Without the Itsekiri Benin couldn't even get to Lagos not to talk of having a post there
The Itsekiri 's Ijebu relatives were in Lagos!


Can Benin Swim ,NO
Can Benin Canoe NO

Na Itsekiri put you for head carry Benin come Lagos

Benin collapsed in Lagos on the same day the Itsekiri became Independent of Benin

Since the Benin are not Capable of Walking on Water to Lagos

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by SayNo2SmallPrik: 6:04pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:

every Edo man, dead or alive knows we know Eko

right from childhood, we were already told in school in Edo language and heritage
Abi na. Including kano, katsina and kogi, na una get everything no be only Lagos

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by thinkmoney(m): 6:05pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:



Look!!

Without the Itsekiri Benin couldn't even get to Lagos not to talk of having a post there
The Itsekiri 's Ijebu relatives were in Lagos!
Benin early too we’re lords over this itshekiris. They also provided them their monarchy just like they provided Lagos. In that time of 1400s to 1600s, Benin was the strongest in the area.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Ijaya123: 6:07pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:


Imagine !!
they made us research and research until we discovered that it was even Ile Ife that Founded both Benin itself and the Ogiso dynasty whose Ekhalerderhan Crown Prince they said got lost

There is just no Wisdom against God Almighty

To fight the Truth is to fight God

All Glory and Honour be to his Mighty Name

I know they will not return to answer that question.

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:07pm On Dec 06, 2023
thinkmoney:

Benin early too we’re lords over this itshekiris. They also provided them their monarchy just like they provided Lagos. In that time of 1400s to 1600s, Benin was the strongest in the area.

Itsekiri were under Benin Voluntarily

Just the same way the Egbas have 4 kings at Abeokuta and none is Superior to the other
It was a Voluntary mutually beneficial
association especially for Joint self defense

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by ThaOwerriMan(m): 6:07pm On Dec 06, 2023
Why are they referring to history books, I thought history has been totally scrapped from Nigeria's educational curriculum!
Confused nation with confused leaders who thought that scrapping history will pepper the easterners. A nation that doesn't know it's history can ever ever move forward. God bless ndi Igbo, God bless MKN
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:10pm On Dec 06, 2023
ThaOwerriMan:
Why are they referring to history books, I thought history has been totally scrapped from Nigeria's educational curriculum!
Confused nation with confused leaders who thought that scrapping history will pepper the easterners. A nation that doesn't know it's history can ever ever move forward. God bless ndi Igbo, God bless MKN

Oya
Tell us your History

Start from the 10th Century
No Fabrications
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by sotall(m): 6:11pm On Dec 06, 2023
Ijaya123:




And who was the first Oba of Benin?
And who was Oduduwa?
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 6:12pm On Dec 06, 2023
SayNo2SmallPrik:

Abi na. Including kano, katsina and kogi, na una get everything no be only Lagos
those one nor concern me

na only Lagos concern me

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Charx122: 6:12pm On Dec 06, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
Oldest history books say Yoruba not Benin founded Lagos



https://punchng.com/oldest-history-books-say-yoruba-not-benin-founded-lagos/


Lagos thats got garbage everywhere, visit places around the world you would be so ashamed of fighting about who owns that latrine you call Lagos .

You guys should stop wasting your presious time fighting for shit that doesn't even belong to any of you.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:13pm On Dec 06, 2023
sotall:

And who was Oduduwa?

Oduduwa was the Father of the Oba Of Benin

It says so in his praise names

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by azammi(m): 6:14pm On Dec 06, 2023
No matter what you say we know its the Benin that created Eko (war camp ) .

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:15pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:

please where did ur obagodo came from in ur yoruba land?
who is the father of obagodo? abi he too fell from the sky?

Obagodo was from Ile Ife

He was also known as Ogiso Igodo
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by UppaZakum(m): 6:18pm On Dec 06, 2023
sotall:
You want to talk about history of Lagos and you are quoting a book written in 1913 by Yoruba Revisionists.

Like seriously grin grin

And some of you dont even go near that part that talks about Aworis paying tax to the Benins.

One of the many truths that prevails but you cant accept it.


Show us the ones written by Benin witches and cultists then now, let's dissect. Ode!

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