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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:21pm On Dec 06, 2023
Charx122:

Lagos thats got garbage everywhere, visit places around the world you would be so ashamed of fighting about who owns that latrine you call Lagos .

You guys should stop wasting your presious time fighting for shit that doesn't even belong to any of you.

Lagos is Yorubaland

Including all the Pit Latrines and Rubbish heaps in it

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 6:21pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:


Obagodo was from Ile Ife
lolz
the same ife oduduwa (izoduwa ) founded grin

history has it that obagodo existed before oduduwa that founded ife. oduduwa would have been the 32 Ogiso from Obagodo lineage grin

how come obagodo now came from ife that his grand grand................... to 32 son founded ? grin

i first tell u say u nor get sense

shey u can now agree grin
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by infofta(m): 6:22pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:
grin


Apart from the fact that the Oba Of Lagos is of Ijesha lineage since

Ologun Kutere who was Ijesha like his father Alagba who was Princess Erelu Kuti's Husband

It was even ife that founded benin

cool.Yes!!

ife founded benin!! Including the Ogiso dynasty!!!


obagodo the first Ogiso that founded Igodomigodo Kingdom that is now benin was an ife man
Igodomigodo is now benin



Ogiso obagodo founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from ife
obagodo was Yoruba for Oba Igodo

Have you ever asked yourself why the Ooni of Ife will vacate his seat for any Oba of Bini to seat whenever the Oba visits.

Because the Prince of Ogiso became the first Oba in Ile Ife. He later sent his son to become Oba in Bini because he couldn't return back to Benin.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:23pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:

lolz
the same ife oduduwa (izoduwa ) founded grin

history has it that obagodo existed before oduduwa that founded ife. oduduwa would have been the 32 Ogiso from Obagodo lineage grin

how come obagodo now came from ife ? grin

i first tell u say u nor get sense

shey u can now agree grin


Obagodo of Ile Ife also Founded Igodomigodo now known as Benin and the Ogiso dynasty

The same Ogiso dynasty which you said born Izoduwa and Ekhalerderhan that got lost

31 Ogiso ruled between Obagodo and Owodo who you claim was the Father of Ekaladeran of Igodomigodo Kingdom that got lost and was found as Izoduwa

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:23pm On Dec 06, 2023
L grin
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by sotall(m): 6:26pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:


Oduduwa was the Father of the Oba Of Benin

It says so in his praise names

The question is where did Oduduwa come from.

Not who was his son.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Charx122: 6:27pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:


Lagos is Yorubaland

Including all the Pit Latrines and Rubbish heaps in it


Guy I dash you Lagos poverty striken place no worry you go soon dey buy fuel 1,500per liter your eyes go clear na treck you go dey treck go work, that's if you have any jab Lol
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Teenaira: 6:28pm On Dec 06, 2023
RepoMan007:
How does a tribe start a city or settlement or community then leave? I am so confused by that phenomenon.

Don't worry, I align with you in the confusion. You won't walk alone.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by TOPCRUISE(m): 6:30pm On Dec 06, 2023
This shouldn’t be a debate. But wickedness of man to a fellow is causing the debate. If Lagos is a desert those who started this controversy and argument will shy away from starting it
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 6:30pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:



Obagodo of Ile Ife also Founded Igodomigodo now known as Benin and the Ogiso dynasty

The same Ogiso dynasty which you said born Izoduwa and Ekhalerderhan that got lost

lolz
stop sounding like a broken record

i just gave u a simple analogy

we are ur senior brother
admit it
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:31pm On Dec 06, 2023
sotall:


The question is where did Oduduwa come from.

Not who was his son.

Oduduwa was from Ile Ife and not Igodomigodo

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by BeigJawnson(m): 6:31pm On Dec 06, 2023
slivertongue:
Well Yorubas own Lagos today but the binis & ijaws were there before them. Even archeological artifacts found in places in Lagos gives evidence to that effect.

Get lost... Binis, when did the Binis start to come to stay in Lagos? And how many of them were in lagos before been modernised?

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 6:31pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:


Oduduwa was from Ile Ife and not Igodomigodo
lolz
who gave birth to him in ife?
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:32pm On Dec 06, 2023
Charx122:


Guy I dash you Lagos poverty striken place no worry you go soon dey buy fuel 1,500per liter your eyes go clear na treck you go dey treck go work, that's if you have any jab Lol

Lagos is Yorubaland not a No Man's Land

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by BeigJawnson(m): 6:33pm On Dec 06, 2023
Validated:

Do not mind op. The Aworis have not denied paying isakole to the binis.

They didn't deny the fact. But Binis came with conquest on them... No wonder eko means arsenal in Bini language...
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:34pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:

lolz
who gave birth to him in ife?


Ora Family

And he was born at Oke Ora

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by sotall(m): 6:36pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:


Oduduwa was from Ile Ife and not Igodomigodo

Which ife?.There was no record of Oduduwa(Izoduwa) in Ife till he came from Edo land after being banished.

I know you are going to tell me now that he climbed down from the sky without breaking his spinal cord or the Revisionist theory that he trekked all the way from Saudi without developing leg cancer grin
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Maski87: 6:36pm On Dec 06, 2023
Which kine yeye book be rhat
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by greggng: 6:36pm On Dec 06, 2023
If I were the yorubas I will Bury there face in shame . The aworis they claimed that founded lagos also paid tax to the Benin. All the obas thst ruled lagos were all buried in Benin except one . Nigerians now know the truth about lagos

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Emyogalanya: 6:37pm On Dec 06, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
Oldest history books say Yoruba not Benin founded Lagos



https://punchng.com/oldest-history-books-say-yoruba-not-benin-founded-lagos/


lagos a land fighting hard for Survival fron the hands of founders and developers
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 6:40pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:



Ora Family

And he was born at Oke Ora
lolz
the person that gave birth to him in Ora family doesnt have a name abi?

and where is the Ora family from? grin

ur mind nor go touch ground on this matter since u nor gree rest
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:42pm On Dec 06, 2023
sotall:


Which ife?.There was no record of Oduduwa(Izoduwa) in Ife till he came from Edo land after being banished.

I know you are going to tell me now that he climbed down from the sky without breaking his spinal cord or the Revisionist theory that he trekked all the way from Saudi without developing leg cancer grin


I said Oduduwa was Born at Oke Ora in Ife
L
Even the Ogiso dynasty and Igodomigodo was founded by Ile Ife


grin

If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of Benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished Benin Palace Praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by FreeStuffsNG: 6:43pm On Dec 06, 2023
thinkmoney:

The king may have not mentioned it the correct way, but what is the fact and that does happen often in ancient time is that Benins defeated Lagos and confiscated it. They set up a monarchy that became the focal point of Lagos.
Lagos paid tributes for more than 300years. This is an acceptance of Benin lordship over Lagos. Benins were effectively the landlord (may not be landowners) of Lagos all those time.
It’s only in 1860, about 150 years ago that Lagos got independence from Benin when they stopped paying tax and tributes to them after political wranglings. Still, the royal house in Eko now which is still arguably the most important in the whole of Lagos is of Benin ancestry.
This are the facts. No need to drag issues unnecessarily
I think you should read how you are being economical with the truth.

What is in contention is that he was reportedly caught to have lied outrightly by saying the Bini founded Lagos. If he did as little as owned up to what the late Oba Akenzua said then it would make sense.

On conquest, it happened several centuries after the Yoruba owners of the land had ran their land and the battle between the landowners Yoruba Aworis and the Bini is not in anyway different from the ones the Ibadan waged against the Egba or the Oyo against Dahomey, it didn't make the Ibadan man lie that they own Abeokuta or the Oyo claim that they founded Dahomey. Not even the Fulani are brazen enough to lie that they founded Ilorin. The problem with the bini now is the lie that they founded Lagos or own the land. They don't. Till as recent as 2nd republic, the Oba of Lagos doesn't own land in Lagos for this reason and the case has been decided in court.

The Yoruba was in error of seeing the bini as relatives so it was not seen as an external aggressor against the Yoruba then.

Finally, from the history of Lagos and Lagos state, you can now see that for as long as this lie stands, the Oba of Lagos seat may be perceived as ceremonial while paramount rulers like Akran of Lagos, Ayangburen of Ikorodu, Elepe of Epe and direct descendants of Ogunfunminire who are the idejos ( landowners) may become elevated than him. It's unfortunate that this lie is exposing the revered Oba of Lagos as a descendant of a settler. It's unfortunate but that's what the Oba of Benin's brazen attempt to revise history as done. Very uncomfortable.

Oonirisa counselled them against going into twisted history because they don't know the true history. The Yoruba are very clever and sophisticated people, our forebears had the foresight that you will come with twisted tales and lies someday so they documented information and built structures to preserve our history.

The Yoruba founded Lagos, own Lagos and will forever own it. That's the fact!

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Connectionmi: 6:44pm On Dec 06, 2023
Na waoh so Lagos no be Yoruba land I wonder why all this do na brnin get Lagos na waoh I see something na waoh that means Lagos na everybody land now naso now
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Charx122: 6:45pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:


Lagos is Yorubaland not a No Man's Land

Na Igbo and Hausa people get Lagos Yourba hasn't contributed to the growth of Lagos only to create revenue for abgeros and hudlums to collect free cash from poor transporters.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:45pm On Dec 06, 2023
Let us tell you the Pre Oduduwa History of Lagos when Benin was not on anyone's Radar Screen

moba Yorubas were settled in moba Lagos well before the 9th Century before Oduduwa whose Son Oranmiyan established the Benin Throne and kingdom was Born
They are currently classified with the Awori people but we're in Lagos many Centuries earlier

In the 10th Century when the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha fetched from the Lagos Sea Water to cure Oduduwa's blindness there were already moba Yorubas. In Lagos and he spent 2 months with them

The idol Worshippers Olokun diety was actually a moba King called Seniade that ruled from an Island off the coast of Lagos that has now been Submerged by the Sea.

Some of the moba migrated to Ijebuland and the moba built the UNESCO world heritage 9th Century Eredo Wall near Ijebu and their kingdom included many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

They have now been included with the Awori people but we're actually the Original Inhabitants of Lagos and were in Lagos Centuries before Oduduwa was Born

The Oore of Otun Ekiti migrated from moba in Lagos and is descended from the moba Kings including Seniade

moba is near Victoria Island and their crown predates Oduduwa's own


Yorubas forefathers might not have been great at Technology but God Almighty definitely gave them Prodigious History Art and Music
All Glory be to God Almighty







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7SXJzGuLM?si=r9vlK6L3Z4NEXAEn

Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:47pm On Dec 06, 2023
Charx122:


Na Igbo and Hausa people get Lagos Yourba hasn't contributed to the growth of Lagos only to create revenue for abgeros and hudlums to collect free cash from poor transporters.


Na Obasanjo get the Entire SE by right of Conquest

Remember you all surrendered to him begging for your lives after Ojukwu abandoned you at the Warfront and fled

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by infofta(m): 6:48pm On Dec 06, 2023
thinkmoney:

The king may have not mentioned it the correct way, but what is the fact and that does happen often in ancient time is that Benins defeated Lagos and confiscated it. They set up a monarchy that became the focal point of Lagos.
Lagos paid tributes for more than 300years. This is an acceptance of Benin lordship over Lagos. Benins were effectively the landlord (may not be landowners) of Lagos all those time.
It’s only in 1860, about 150 years ago that Lagos got independence from Benin when they stopped paying tax and tributes to them after political wranglings. Still, the royal house in Eko now which is still arguably the most important in the whole of Lagos is of Benin ancestry.
This are the facts. No need to drag issues unnecessarily

Binis never conquered Eko. It was founded by the Binis because of its close proximity to the Ocean which was vital for trade with the British. Other Yorubas joined the trade and they were made to pay royalties to the Oba of Bini. There might be other Yorubas in other parts before the Binis came but not Eko. The name was given to it by the Binis
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Connectionmi: 6:49pm On Dec 06, 2023
Na waoh so Lagos no be Yoruba land bini people get Lagos na waoh if we see Lagos gonself we go see say bini ppl too plenty for lagos pass Benin gonself na Benin ppl bring development come Lagos that means Lagos na for all cos na capital before make anybody no lay claim for Lagos again oh

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 6:53pm On Dec 06, 2023
Connectionmi:
Na waoh so Lagos no be Yoruba land bini people get Lagos na waoh if we see Lagos gonself we go see say bini ppl too plenty for lagos pass Benin gonself na Benin ppl bring development come Lagos that means Lagos na for all cos na capital before make anybody no lay claim for Lagos again oh


That Lagos is Yorubaland is beyond Contention


Document from sir alfred moloney
British Colonial Governor of Lagos
Confirming Lagos is Yorubaland in 1890

Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 6:53pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:



Ora Family

And he was born at Oke Ora
who in ora family na?

the person nor get name ni?

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