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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by jmoore(m): 1:48pm On Dec 21, 2023
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Traevis(m): 1:48pm On Dec 21, 2023
SoNature:


Believe whatever you like, but one thing is certain: Catholic Churches won't unite gay couples in holy matrimony.
Your eyes go soon open no worry
It might not happen in Africa
You would start seeing in abroad

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by MrSly(m): 1:49pm On Dec 21, 2023
Antoeni:


https://punchng.com/same-sex-marriage-catholic-teaching-doesnt-change-bishops/

I am a Catholic and an ex seminarian at that. So any blessing that is given to gay couple as a couple simply means approval. If you must bless them it must be done individually in a way that shows that they are not recognised as couple. Shikina. People should stop trying to defend what the Pope said instead let him clarify the issue himself. Gay marriage in Catholic? God forbid bad thing.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Bayajjidda: 1:49pm On Dec 21, 2023
Antoeni:
Understanding the Pope’s position on the blessing of Same-Sex relationships before rushing to misrepresent the truth:

*“Fiducia supplicans"* in simpler terms:

*1. Blessings, not marriage:* The Church understands blessings as ways to ask for God's grace and favour in various situations. This document clarifies that it's possible to bless same-sex couples without recognizing their union as marriage.

*2. No change in marriage teaching:* The Church's teaching on marriage as between a man and a woman remains unchanged. This blessing gesture doesn't endorse their relationship but shows God's love for all.

*3. Blessings come in different forms:* There are formal blessings, like at weddings, and informal ones, like at shrines. This document focuses on informal blessings, where anyone, including those in irregular relationships, can ask for God's blessing.

*4. Blessings show humility and need for God:* Asking for a blessing expresses trust in God and a desire for his goodness. Even if someone's situation isn't perfect, they can still seek God's grace.

*5. Blessings have limits:* While the Church can offer blessings to everyone, it can't bless anything contrary to God's will. So, this blessing doesn't legitimize same-sex unions but asks for God's guidance and love.

*6. Discernment and respect:* The document encourages pastors to use their judgment when deciding about such blessings. The setting and words should be clear to avoid confusion with marriage ceremonies.

*7. Hope and openness:* Ultimately, this document reflects the Church's desire to welcome everyone with God's love and mercy, even those in challenging situations. It's a step towards greater understanding and pastoral care.

*Remember:* This is a simplified explanation of a complex document. For a deeper understanding, consult the original text (the English version begins on pages 20 through 28) --

Why bless what God is against in the first place? The Bible is clear in God's stance on homosexuality and addresses the topic of homosexuality in multiple verses, including Leviticus 18:22, which states, "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable." Additionally, in the New Testament, Romans1:26-27 describes homosexual relations as unnatural and sinful.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Antoeni(m): 1:50pm On Dec 21, 2023
The Pope style of leadership is Pastoral. A shepherd who love his sheep. The emphasis is on case by case basis by priest. This situation will help the priest journey with the wayward LGBTQ people and bring them back to track.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Shalommy(f): 1:51pm On Dec 21, 2023
Chaiii.... Las las.. Naija will accept. cheesy cheesy

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by chibnnodi: 1:52pm On Dec 21, 2023
Those in polygamy should be blessed, too. The pope is a man like you and I and is not God's cousin.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Antoeni(m): 1:54pm On Dec 21, 2023
The Blessing is Not Done Liturgically like That of Holy Matrimony
MrSly:


I am a Catholic and an ex seminarian at that. So any blessing that is given to gay couple as a couple simply means approval. If you must bless them it must be done individually in a way that shows that they are not recognised as couple. Shikina. People should stop trying to defend what the Pope said instead let him clarify the issue himself. Gay marriage in Catholic? God forbid bad thing.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by deyplay: 1:55pm On Dec 21, 2023
Armaggedon:
Blessings gay couples means approving gay marriage without making Africans like you angry.
and why can't the confused same sex marriage proponents marry outside church like courts. They don't need church wedding knowing fully well that the founder of the church, said "male and female (not male and male or female and female ) and what God has joined together (male & female) , let no body(including) Pope put asunder or separate. Meaning let no body approve same sex but opposite sex. If you want approval, go elsewhere. The rule of the church is final, and it is not subject to anyone's approval not even Paul or Pope. You don't like it, leave it!!!!!!

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Arisenews2: 1:56pm On Dec 21, 2023
Very bad one from the pope!


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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Wealthoptulent(m): 1:56pm On Dec 21, 2023
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Brushstrokes20: 1:59pm On Dec 21, 2023
Compound bullocks 💯 undecided
# don't sit on the fence, take a stand!
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by DrAda(f): 1:59pm On Dec 21, 2023
Funny. And one wonders why religion should be taken seriously when age-old rules from God himself can be changed easily.

Can you imagine how similar changes like this might have occured over time to what we practice currently?

Well, since the flood gates are now open, I am excited to see what comes next

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by efficiencie(m): 2:03pm On Dec 21, 2023
Antoeni:


https://punchng.com/same-sex-marriage-catholic-teaching-doesnt-change-bishops/

Always cunningly endorsing evil. From literally asking Mary to pray for them to now granting blessings to outright abominations. From monetizing penance, hiding the Holy Scriptures as the Latin Vulgate, criminalizing the existence of the Bible in other languages, obscuring the teachings of the Bible to slaughtering dissenting Christians and scientists, the Roman Catholic church has done it all.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by phemmie06(m): 2:04pm On Dec 21, 2023
Pope spokesperson don talk. Please what is the meaning of blessing in this context?

Antoeni:
Understanding the Pope’s position on the blessing of Same-Sex relationships before rushing to misrepresent the truth:

*“Fiducia supplicans"* in simpler terms:

*1. Blessings, not marriage:* The Church understands blessings as ways to ask for God's grace and favour in various situations. This document clarifies that it's possible to bless same-sex couples without recognizing their union as marriage.

*2. No change in marriage teaching:* The Church's teaching on marriage as between a man and a woman remains unchanged. This blessing gesture doesn't endorse their relationship but shows God's love for all.

*3. Blessings come in different forms:* There are formal blessings, like at weddings, and informal ones, like at shrines. This document focuses on informal blessings, where anyone, including those in irregular relationships, can ask for God's blessing.

*4. Blessings show humility and need for God:* Asking for a blessing expresses trust in God and a desire for his goodness. Even if someone's situation isn't perfect, they can still seek God's grace.

*5. Blessings have limits:* While the Church can offer blessings to everyone, it can't bless anything contrary to God's will. So, this blessing doesn't legitimize same-sex unions but asks for God's guidance and love.

*6. Discernment and respect:* The document encourages pastors to use their judgment when deciding about such blessings. The setting and words should be clear to avoid confusion with marriage ceremonies.

*7. Hope and openness:* Ultimately, this document reflects the Church's desire to welcome everyone with God's love and mercy, even those in challenging situations. It's a step towards greater understanding and pastoral care.

*Remember:* This is a simplified explanation of a complex document. For a deeper understanding, consult the original text (the English version begins on pages 20 through 28) --

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by addexx: 2:05pm On Dec 21, 2023
Antoeni:
Understanding the Pope’s position on the blessing of Same-Sex relationships before rushing to misrepresent the truth:

*“Fiducia supplicans"* in simpler terms:

*1. Blessings, not marriage:* The Church understands blessings as ways to ask for God's grace and favour in various situations. This document clarifies that it's possible to bless same-sex couples without recognizing their union as marriage.

*2. No change in marriage teaching:* The Church's teaching on marriage as between a man and a woman remains unchanged. This blessing gesture doesn't endorse their relationship but shows God's love for all.

*3. Blessings come in different forms:* There are formal blessings, like at weddings, and informal ones, like at shrines. This document focuses on informal blessings, where anyone, including those in irregular relationships, can ask for God's blessing.

*4. Blessings show humility and need for God:* Asking for a blessing expresses trust in God and a desire for his goodness. Even if someone's situation isn't perfect, they can still seek God's grace.

*5. Blessings have limits:* While the Church can offer blessings to everyone, it can't bless anything contrary to God's will. So, this blessing doesn't legitimize same-sex unions but asks for God's guidance and love.

*6. Discernment and respect:* The document encourages pastors to use their judgment when deciding about such blessings. The setting and words should be clear to avoid confusion with marriage ceremonies.

*7. Hope and openness:* Ultimately, this document reflects the Church's desire to welcome everyone with God's love and mercy, even those in challenging situations. It's a step towards greater understanding and pastoral care.

*Remember:* This is a simplified explanation of a complex document. For a deeper understanding, consult the original text (the English version begins on pages 20 through 28) --



Going by this theory I think all priests should start blessing pedophiles, rapists, drug dealers, murderers, satanists... etc
I wonder what bible you guys read if you have the mind to ask God to bless people violating his commandments.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by efficiencie(m): 2:07pm On Dec 21, 2023
SoNature:


Believe whatever you like, but one thing is certain: Catholic Churches won't unite gay couples in holy matrimony.

...but you are blessing the people involved in the act...thereby endorsing it...endorsing an abomination. An abomination that led to the destruction of an entire city. What the Catholics should be doing is sending gay folks to their exorcists for deliverance instead of granting them blessings. The Catholic church is sustaining these ailing people in their sickness and disease by granting them blessings.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by epainos: 2:08pm On Dec 21, 2023
SoNature:
Pope Francis didn't ask the priest to start wedding gay couples. He simply said they are free to bless them because everyone deserves God's blessings and he hopes that would make them change their ways. People should stop distorting facts.
grin
I like you. Anyway, time will tell. I guess you are a catholic... trying to defend the Nigerian branch. Lol. It is a matter of time. grin The true test will come if catholic members will dump the church or accept it based on the religion they were born into. Lol. grin

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by D4gmail1: 2:08pm On Dec 21, 2023
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by efficiencie(m): 2:12pm On Dec 21, 2023
SoNature:
Pope Francis didn't ask the priest to start wedding gay couples. He simply said they are free to bless them because everyone deserves God's blessings and he hopes that would make them change their ways. People should stop distorting facts.

Yea. Everybody deserves GOD's blessings. Everybody including mass murderers like Hitler, Ghengis Khan, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin etc. What a stupid statement to make. Blessing people in their obvious sin does not make them change rather it encourages them to continue down the path they are on. Blessing people in their obvious sin tell them they are being accepted as they are and that they do not necessarily need to deal with their sin. What the Catholic church should be doing is preaching against governments that are encouraging this behavior and telling the world of the dangers of such a lifestyle and tasking their exorcists with the responsibility of helping these folks heal from their disease.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by mastermaestro(m): 2:14pm On Dec 21, 2023
Antoeni:
The Pope style of leadership is Pastoral. A shepherd who love his sheep. The emphasis is on case by case basis by priest. This situation will help the priest journey with the wayward LGBTQ people and bring them back to track.

Catholics always finding ways to defend foolishness because it emanates from the Vatican. If this was from one pentecostal preacher, una for don run mad since. Hypocrites!

Keep defending the devilish papal misstep. Meanwhile many Western catholic bishops have started dissociating themselves from this institutional deviance. Follow devil enter hole, you hear. Blessing means approval. You cannot bless what you do not support.

Like the Anglican church, the catholic church is about to break up from Vatican control. Every country will soon begin establishing their own liturgies. One man cannot confound GOD'S explicit laws.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by SoNature(m): 2:15pm On Dec 21, 2023
epainos:

grin
I like you. Anyway, time will tell. I guess you are a catholic... trying to defend the Nigerian branch. Lol. It is a matter of time. grin The true test will come if catholic members will dump the church or accept it based on the religion they were born into. Lol. grin

The Catholic Church has lasted for over 2000 years and remains the world's largest, richest and oldest international organisation of all time. If our beliefs were that easy to change, believe me, the Universal Church wouldn't have lasted for this long.

The Universal Church in Africa is taking her time to explain to the laity the position of the Pope so that they don't get swayed by the opinions of naysayers. Trust me, the Catholic Church has many of them, even within the Christendom
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Lasky2000: 2:16pm On Dec 21, 2023
Wondering why some Christians here are supporting Pope decisions, how did we get here as Christians? Why should something like this be blessed ? If we aren't careful we will start loosing our moral values just in the name of civilization!
God's words will never change

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by DestinyNigga: 2:19pm On Dec 21, 2023
SoNature:


Believe whatever you like, but one thing is certain: Catholic Churches won't unite gay couples in holy matrimony.

How will you feel if Pastor Kumuyi is the first to say that his "Pastor's can now bless same sex"?

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by efficiencie(m): 2:20pm On Dec 21, 2023
Traevis:

Naso ena talk say ena dey honor Mary not worship
Mean while all prayers concerning that church contain Mary
Y'all are clowns ,the earlier you begin to read your Bible yourself and teach yourself, the better for you
The devil is heading the church now

Exactly bro. They keep deceiving themselves. They are blessing gay couples now. They so stupidly fail to see that by the same logic they must bless man and animal couples, woman and animal couples, polygamy couples, polyandry couples, polyamorous couples, baby daddy and baby mama couples, sugar mommy and toy boy couples, sugar daddy and toy girl couples and incestuous couples.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by SoNature(m): 2:21pm On Dec 21, 2023
efficiencie:


Yea. Everybody deserves GOD's blessings. Everybody including mass murderers like Hitler, Ghengis Khan, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin etc. What a stupid statement to make. Blessing people in their obvious sin does not make them change rather it encourages them to continue down the path they are on. Blessing people in their obvious sin tell them they are being accepted as they are and that they do not necessarily need to deal with their sin. What the Catholic church should be doing is preaching against governments that are encouraging this behavior and telling the world of the dangers of such a lifestyle and tasking their exorcists with the responsibility of helping these folks heal from their disease.

We are not in a position to judge anyone because judgement is of the Lord. And Matthew 7:1 warned us never to judge anyone. By the way, Our Lord Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear that he didn't come for the righteous.

Also, I don't think gay practices have connections with evil spirits. I think it's a lifestyle choice. Most times, I consider those folks mentally unstable people, not necessarily possessed by the demon.

Lastly, the Vatican City was declared a country so that the Pope and Catholics will stop interfering in local politics.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by ABANGWABOI(m): 2:21pm On Dec 21, 2023
That pope na Big foool
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by SoNature(m): 2:22pm On Dec 21, 2023
DestinyNigga:


How will you feel if Pastor Kumuyi is the first to say that his "Pastor's can now bless same sex"?

I am a Catholic. What Pentecostal churches do is entirely their business, not mine.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Alao046(m): 2:24pm On Dec 21, 2023
Religion of fools and pigs. Start fucking each others ass now grin grin.

what do u expect from a religion where the god was a bastard given birth to by a LovePeddler.
Virgin LovePeddler mary grin
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by YesDaddy1: 2:24pm On Dec 21, 2023
Save your ink/saliva biko.
Even if d pope 'blesses' bestiality, katriks like una go still try to reason am.

Spade na spade no matter how una try to call am
cool

Antoeni:
Understanding the Pope’s position on the blessing of Same-Sex relationships before rushing to misrepresent the truth:

*“Fiducia supplicans"* in simpler terms:

*1. Blessings, not marriage:* The Church understands blessings as ways to ask for God's grace and favour in various situations. This document clarifies that it's possible to bless same-sex couples without recognizing their union as marriage.

*2. No change in marriage teaching:* The Church's teaching on marriage as between a man and a woman remains unchanged. This blessing gesture doesn't endorse their relationship but shows God's love for all.

*3. Blessings come in different forms:* There are formal blessings, like at weddings, and informal ones, like at shrines. This document focuses on informal blessings, where anyone, including those in irregular relationships, can ask for God's blessing.

*4. Blessings show humility and need for God:* Asking for a blessing expresses trust in God and a desire for his goodness. Even if someone's situation isn't perfect, they can still seek God's grace.

*5. Blessings have limits:* While the Church can offer blessings to everyone, it can't bless anything contrary to God's will. So, this blessing doesn't legitimize same-sex unions but asks for God's guidance and love.

*6. Discernment and respect:* The document encourages pastors to use their judgment when deciding about such blessings. The setting and words should be clear to avoid confusion with marriage ceremonies.

*7. Hope and openness:* Ultimately, this document reflects the Church's desire to welcome everyone with God's love and mercy, even those in challenging situations. It's a step towards greater understanding and pastoral care.

*Remember:* This is a simplified explanation of a complex document. For a deeper understanding, consult the original text (the English version begins on pages 20 through 28) --
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by sameks08(m): 2:26pm On Dec 21, 2023
Christistruth03:


You cannot bless evil
You are mocking yourself not God
. But you ask God to bless despite the fact that you are a sinner?
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by tonymyke4life(m): 2:26pm On Dec 21, 2023
SoNature:
Pope Francis didn't ask the priests to start wedding gay couples. He simply said they are free to bless them because everyone deserves God's blessings and he hopes that would make them change their ways. People should stop distorting facts.


Lol! We just like painting the truth. Blessing gay couples hmmm! I just hope this is not true. I hope it's d usual propaganda by bloggers. Ok imagine me coming to a priest wit prostitute saying to him, bless us father, we want to go have sex. To me! Blessing them simply means encouraging them. It's pure black and white. U might bless them and dey go wed elsewhere with the conviction that they have received the priestsy blessings. The taught of that alone makes me sad. The truth is the truth pls. The bible condemns it. Homosexuality and the likes wit condemned in the bible. While our priests r busy giving their blessings. It's well

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