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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by MostHigh: 5:59pm On Dec 21, 2023
you are just talking rubbish
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by holyfather(m): 6:16pm On Dec 21, 2023
SoNature:


Believe whatever you like, but one thing is certain: Catholic Churches won't join gay couples in holy matrimony.
But they would bless gay couples abi grin
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by scrupulousblog: 6:17pm On Dec 21, 2023
SoNature:


Believe whatever you like, but one thing is certain: Catholic Churches won't join gay couples in holy matrimony.
It's only a matter of time. Soon you will start seeing it happen. You cannot bless what you do not approve.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Emu4life(m): 6:55pm On Dec 21, 2023
[quote author=Kingson28 post=127560402][/quote]
This is the teaching of the Church Not Jesus.
Jesus called himself "A man" sent by God. His disciples called him "A man" sent by God.

You christians are calling him God which he never claimed, do you know more than the disciples or Jesus himself?
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Monday60655(m): 6:56pm On Dec 21, 2023
Antoeni:
Understanding the Pope’s position on the blessing of Same-Sex relationships before rushing to misrepresent the truth:

*“Fiducia supplicans"* in simpler terms:

*1. Blessings, not marriage:* The Church understands blessings as ways to ask for God's grace and favour in various situations. This document clarifies that it's possible to bless same-sex couples without recognizing their union as marriage.

*2. No change in marriage teaching:* The Church's teaching on marriage as between a man and a woman remains unchanged. This blessing gesture doesn't endorse their relationship but shows God's love for all.

*3. Blessings come in different forms:* There are formal blessings, like at weddings, and informal ones, like at shrines. This document focuses on informal blessings, where anyone, including those in irregular relationships, can ask for God's blessing.

*4. Blessings show humility and need for God:* Asking for a blessing expresses trust in God and a desire for his goodness. Even if someone's situation isn't perfect, they can still seek God's grace.

*5. Blessings have limits:* While the Church can offer blessings to everyone, it can't bless anything contrary to God's will. So, this blessing doesn't legitimize same-sex unions but asks for God's guidance and love.

*6. Discernment and respect:* The document encourages pastors to use their judgment when deciding about such blessings. The setting and words should be clear to avoid confusion with marriage ceremonies.

*7. Hope and openness:* Ultimately, this document reflects the Church's desire to welcome everyone with God's love and mercy, even those in challenging situations. It's a step towards greater understanding and pastoral care.

*Remember:* This is a simplified explanation of a complex document. For a deeper understanding, consult the original text (the English version begins on pages 20 through 28) --

No matter how you pamper evil and lies, truth remains truth and nothing but the truth.
May God have mercy on all of us. Peace!
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Emu4life(m): 7:01pm On Dec 21, 2023
Gboom:

If you know what will befall you because of this your show of ignorance in blaspheming the name of Jesus, you will quickly go down on your knees and plead for forgiveness.

Acts 2 Vs 22 " Hear or Israel! Jesus Christ of Nazareth is only a Man appointed by God...... "


Do you know Jesus more than his closest disciple, Peter??
You are the ignorant one here Sir and the curse of God is already upon you for associating a partner with Almighty God.

May God guide and have mercy on your soul.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by israelmao(m): 7:31pm On Dec 21, 2023
Expanse2020:

A man shall leave his father and mother and be cleaved unto his wife
This verse doesn't mean marriage no word of marriage there
Cleaved unto literally means is to Cohort(Not married) just to leave together not legalize marriage..

This is one of the signs of the last days,you are distorting God's word to suit yourself.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Expanse2020(m): 7:41pm On Dec 21, 2023
israelmao:


This is one of the signs of the last days,you are distorting God's word suitable yourself.
no
Consumate, marriage is different from cleaved there is clarity
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by israelmao(m): 7:44pm On Dec 21, 2023
Expanse2020:
no Consumate, marriage is different from cleaved there is clarity
Did word "cleave" in biblical term explains in that manner?
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Ntrix3: 8:32pm On Dec 21, 2023
[quote author=Antoeni post=127554298]Understanding the Pope’s position on the blessing of Same-Sex relationships before rushing to misrepresent the truth:

*“Fiducia supplicans"* in simpler terms:

*1. Blessings, not marriage:* The Church understands blessings as ways to ask for God's grace and favour in various situations. This document clarifies that it's possible to bless same-sex couples without recognizing their union as marriage.

*2. No change in marriage teaching:* The Church's teaching on marriage as between a man and a woman remains unchanged. This blessing gesture doesn't endorse their relationship but shows God's love for all.

*3. Blessings come in different forms:* There are formal blessings, like at weddings, and informal ones, like at shrines. This document focuses on informal blessings, where anyone, including those in irregular relationships, can ask for God's blessing.

*4. Blessings show humility and need for God:* Asking for a blessing expresses trust in God and a desire for his goodness. Even if someone's situation isn't perfect, they can still seek God's grace.

*5. Blessings have limits:* While the Church can offer blessings to everyone, it can't bless anything contrary to God's will. So, this blessing doesn't legitimize same-sex unions but asks for God's guidance and love.

*6. Discernment and respect:* The document encourages pastors to use their judgment when deciding about such blessings. The setting and words should be clear to avoid confusion with marriage ceremonies.

*7. Hope and openness:* Ultimately, this document reflects the Church's desire to welcome everyone with God's love and mercy, even those in challenging situations. It's a step towards greater understanding and pastoral care.

*Remember:* This is a simplified explanation of a complex document. For a deeper understanding, consult the original text (the English version begins on pages 20 through 28) --[In simplified explanation, nothing wrong in blessing an armed robber and his robbery crime, I think.]
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by hansomb: 8:34pm On Dec 21, 2023
Antoeni:
Understanding the Pope’s position on the blessing of Same-Sex relationships before rushing to misrepresent the truth:

*“Fiducia supplicans"* in simpler terms:

*1. Blessings, not marriage:* The Church understands blessings as ways to ask for God's grace and favour in various situations. This document clarifies that it's possible to bless same-sex couples without recognizing their union as marriage.

*2. No change in marriage teaching:* The Church's teaching on marriage as between a man and a woman remains unchanged. This blessing gesture doesn't endorse their relationship but shows God's love for all.

*3. Blessings come in different forms:* There are formal blessings, like at weddings, and informal ones, like at shrines. This document focuses on informal blessings, where anyone, including those in irregular relationships, can ask for God's blessing.

*4. Blessings show humility and need for God:* Asking for a blessing expresses trust in God and a desire for his goodness. Even if someone's situation isn't perfect, they can still seek God's grace.

*5. Blessings have limits:* While the Church can offer blessings to everyone, it can't bless anything contrary to God's will. So, this blessing doesn't legitimize same-sex unions but asks for God's guidance and love.

*6. Discernment and respect:* The document encourages pastors to use their judgment when deciding about such blessings. The setting and words should be clear to avoid confusion with marriage ceremonies.

*7. Hope and openness:* Ultimately, this document reflects the Church's desire to welcome everyone with God's love and mercy, even those in challenging situations. It's a step towards greater understanding and pastoral care.

*Remember:* This is a simplified explanation of a complex document. For a deeper understanding, consult the original text (the English version begins on pages 20 through 28) --
dey play, just dey play
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Eneye4me: 8:45pm On Dec 21, 2023
Religion of confusion.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Christistruth03: 9:56pm On Dec 21, 2023
sameks08:
. But you ask God to bless despite the fact that you are a sinner?


God doesn’t bless what he has forbidden
God can bless man he doesn’t bless Sin

If God would bless Sin the Christ would not have died for Our Sins
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Gboom: 9:59pm On Dec 21, 2023
Emu4life:


Acts 2 Vs 22 " Hear or Israel! Jesus Christ of Nazareth is only a Man appointed by God...... "


Do you know Jesus more than his closest disciple, Peter??
You are the ignorant one here Sir and the curse of God is already upon you for associating a partner with Almighty God.

May God guide and have mercy on your soul.
Read John 1:1-17 with better understanding
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by mbaise1000: 10:02pm On Dec 21, 2023
SoNature:
Pope Francis didn't ask the priests to start wedding gay couples. He simply said they are free to bless them because everyone deserves God's blessings and he hopes that would make them change their ways. People should stop distorting facts.

Which simply means the catholic church approves it, anything done in disobedience to the commandments of God is sin, the bible said that obedience is better than sacrifice, if the bible says that homosexuality is evil, anyone that support it is sinning against God.
Will you be in sin and ask for grace to multiply for you? Anyone that doesn't know that the pope is anti Christ doesn't have the spirit of God, you can ONLY do the things the one behind you approve
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by JordanMichael(m): 10:07pm On Dec 21, 2023
I believe Pope Francis is GAY also embarassed
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Emu4life(m): 10:24pm On Dec 21, 2023
Gboom:

Read John 1:1-17 with better understanding
Was the the Words of Jesus or somebody else??
John 1 V 1 categorically stated that "There are Two Gods"
Which is contrary to teachings of Jesus. This is where the problems of Christians started.

Whoever wrote the Book of John isn't closer to Jesus than Peter and has contracted itself so many times in the same book.

John 14:28, John 12:49, John 17:3, John 5:30-31, John 8:40,John 13:15. All these verses, Jesus kept repeating that he was only a messenger who has come to deliver a message.

In the book of Job 25:4-5,
He who is born of a woman can not be said to ne clean.


God Almighty was never given birth to and he never gave birth to a Child. That's blasphemy of the highest order.

Anyone who believe Jesus is God should also believe other messengers of God to be God.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Gboom: 10:36pm On Dec 21, 2023
Emu4life:

Was the the Words of Jesus or somebody else??
John 1 V 1 categorically stated that "There are Two Gods"
Which is contrary to teachings of Jesus. This is where the problems of Christians started.

Whoever wrote the Book of John isn't closer to Jesus than Peter and has contracted itself so many times in the same book.

John 14:28, John 12:49, John 17:3, John 5:30-31, John 8:40,John 13:15. All these verses, Jesus kept repeating that he was only a messenger who has come to deliver a message.

In the book of Job 25:4-5,
Jesus said he who is born of a woman can not be said to ne clean.
God Almighty was never given birth to and he never gave birth to a Child. That's blasphemy of the highest order.

Anyone who believe Jesus is God should also believe other messengers of God to be God.
I know you a musulumi try to quote the Bible with ignoramus interpretation. My advice for you is to forsake your ways and accept Jesus as Lord and saviour and stop all these unnecessary arguments that will add no value to your life.

I hope Seun is seen this?
A muslim can come to a Christian thread and equate it with homosexuality but a Christian cannot comment on muslim thread, please make amend for a level playing ground

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Emu4life(m): 10:42pm On Dec 21, 2023
Gboom:

I know you a musulumi try to quote the Bible with ignoramus interpretation. My advice for you is to forsake your ways and accept Jesus as Lord and saviour and stop all these unnecessary arguments that will add no value to your life.

I hope Seun is seen this?
A muslim can come to a Christian thread and equate it with homosexuality but a Christian cannot comment on muslim thread, please make amend for a level playing ground
"Accept Jesus as Lord and Personal Savior" in other words, worship who was hungry and ate, worship who was born of a woman, worship who worshipped another God (Mathew 26:39), worship who was sent by God, worship who was overtaken by slumber and sleep on a boat above all, worship who was killed......

May you find guidance.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Tripssy: 11:05pm On Dec 21, 2023
That's all your eyes can see thank you.
Now discern
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Ayatullah(m): 11:20pm On Dec 21, 2023
Antoeni:
Understanding the Pope’s position on the blessing of Same-Sex relationships before rushing to misrepresent the truth:

*“Fiducia supplicans"* in simpler terms:

*1. Blessings, not marriage:* The Church understands blessings as ways to ask for God's grace and favour in various situations. This document clarifies that it's possible to bless same-sex couples without recognizing their union as marriage.

*2. No change in marriage teaching:* The Church's teaching on marriage as between a man and a woman remains unchanged. This blessing gesture doesn't endorse their relationship but shows God's love for all.

*3. Blessings come in different forms:* There are formal blessings, like at weddings, and informal ones, like at shrines. This document focuses on informal blessings, where anyone, including those in irregular relationships, can ask for God's blessing.

*4. Blessings show humility and need for God:* Asking for a blessing expresses trust in God and a desire for his goodness. Even if someone's situation isn't perfect, they can still seek God's grace.

*5. Blessings have limits:* While the Church can offer blessings to everyone, it can't bless anything contrary to God's will. So, this blessing doesn't legitimize same-sex unions but asks for God's guidance and love.

*6. Discernment and respect:* The document encourages pastors to use their judgment when deciding about such blessings. The setting and words should be clear to avoid confusion with marriage ceremonies.

*7. Hope and openness:* Ultimately, this document reflects the Church's desire to welcome everyone with God's love and mercy, even those in challenging situations. It's a step towards greater understanding and pastoral care.

*Remember:* This is a simplified explanation of a complex document. For a deeper understanding, consult the original text (the English version begins on pages 20 through 28) --

All these explanations are nothing but evil cover ups of the highest order, using meaningless jargons.

Unfortunately for the Pope and the catholic church, their disobedience to God has since been well noted by men of goodwill and sincere lovers of the Almighty God.

The Pope and the Catholic Church is clearly waging war against the Almighty God and destruction awaits those who wage war against the Almighty God. They can never escape.

Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Kingson28: 12:05am On Dec 22, 2023
[quote author=Emu4life post=127561535]
This is the teaching of the Church Not Jesus.
Jesus called himself "A man" sent by God. His disciples called him "A man" sent by God.

You christians are calling him God which he never claimed, do you know more than the disciples or Jesus himself?

Read the Gospel of John.
Thomas called Jesus, “My Lord and my God”, and Jesus did NOT reprimand or correct him.
How about that?
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by CyracksMrBlogger(m): 12:55am On Dec 22, 2023
SoNature:


Believe whatever you like, but one thing is certain: Catholic Churches won't join gay couples in holy matrimony.
even when they start joining gay couples and calling it blessing, you will have no control over it. They will soon start.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by CyracksMrBlogger(m): 1:00am On Dec 22, 2023
Emu4life:

Was the the Words of Jesus or somebody else??
John 1 V 1 categorically stated that "There are Two Gods"
Which is contrary to teachings of Jesus. This is where the problems of Christians started.

Whoever wrote the Book of John isn't closer to Jesus than Peter and has contracted itself so many times in the same book.

John 14:28, John 12:49, John 17:3, John 5:30-31, John 8:40,John 13:15. All these verses, Jesus kept repeating that he was only a messenger who has come to deliver a message.

In the book of Job 25:4-5,
Jesus said he who is born of a woman can not be said to ne clean.


God Almighty was never given birth to and he never gave birth to a Child. That's blasphemy of the highest order.

Anyone who believe Jesus is God should also believe other messengers of God to be God.
what did Jesus said in the book of Job? Jesus? In the book of Job? grin grin grin confusionist
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by finduy: 2:00am On Dec 22, 2023
Christians are the most dump people on earth

See how they are using English to Justify their Rubbish

Since the beginning of time Christianity has being evolving to ensure its survives by allowing many things that would have made more people detest it.

Who ever takes Christians seriously can only be drunk or indoctrinated person

Am not religious before you bad mouth people start thinking am a Muslim
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Mrjaz(m): 5:02am On Dec 22, 2023
This oyibo too much Una agree to bless Gay Abi una no agree?
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by BeeNG3: 7:23am On Dec 22, 2023
SoNature:
Pope Francis didn't ask the priests to start wedding gay couples. He simply said they are free to bless them because everyone deserves God's blessings and he hopes that would make them change their ways. People should stop distorting facts.
And the interpretation of blessings please.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by zoedew: 7:54am On Dec 22, 2023
Antoeni:


https://punchng.com/same-sex-marriage-catholic-teaching-doesnt-change-bishops/
Quit trying to explain what is clear enough! The world is going South big time.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by GrandTempestPro: 7:57am On Dec 22, 2023
Emu4life:
See this Mumu. Are you holier than the Pope?

Many people don't know why Christianity is Synonymous to Homosexuality.

Romans 1: 22-27

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God into that of a mortal human being (Jesus) and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of
their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

25 They changed the truth about God into a lie, and worshiped and served a creature (Jesus) rather than the Creator (God Almighty) —who is forever praised. Amen.

26 For this Curse, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones(Lesbianism).

27 In the same way, the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another (Gayism). Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.


The above verses point clearly to why Christianity is synonymous to Homosexuality. Christian nations trying very hard to promote homosexuality, thier Pope (Highest Christian Personality) justifying homosexuality and blessing it. They want the whole world to be morally corrupted by their Curse as mentioned by the Bible.

The only solution to Homosexuality today is for Christians to stop worshipping a Mortal creature(Jesus) and worship the True Creator as this is what brought the curse of homosexuality in the first place.

Only a sick person thinks sexual relationship between (Same gender) women or Men is not a curse.
Please include verses 1-21. It is all about Jesus Christ as the saviour, and the detestation of idols. That which you substituted as Jesus Christ is a place for idols or other. You have just committed grave sacrilege irrespective of your religious leanings.
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by chukwudiegwu123: 11:15am On Dec 22, 2023
PEASE WHAT'S DIFFERENT BETWEEN BLEESING AND APPROVE?
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Fighttillvictory: 12:51pm On Dec 22, 2023
With due respect to our pope, his uttrances recently has been vile i think he should go for a retreat even JESUS that didn't condemed the sinful woman that the pharisees brought to him never blessed her rather he told her to go and change from her sinful ways
Re: Same-Sex Marriage: Catholic Teaching Doesn’t Change – Bishops by Fighttillvictory: 12:52pm On Dec 22, 2023
With due respect to our pope, his uttrances recently has been vile i think he should go for a retreat. even JESUS that didn't condemed the sinful woman that the pharisees brought to him still never blessed her rather he told her to go and change from her sinful ways

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