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Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:16am On Nov 09, 2011 |
NRI PRIEST:I've yet to see any facts about the bolded that you guys are throwing around. The Hausa did not invent agbadas, dear. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 2:19am On Nov 09, 2011 |
"Agabada" is borrowed clothing from the Islamized Songhai/Ghana Empire who were influenced by Arab clothing. Fact. Its origin lies with the clothing worn by the Islamized Tukulor, Mandé and Songhai peoples of the historic 8th Century Takrur and Ghana Empires, and 13th Century Mali and Songhai Empires, (See Bisht and Kaftan for information on these).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boubou_(clothing) I guess the Yoruba are wearing other peoples clothing. Lesson learnt: don't show your ass by diving head first into insults. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:23am On Nov 09, 2011 |
ezeagu: From Wikipedia? Dude, plzzz. Agbada was neither created by the Hausa or Yoruba, but it was popularize and better fashioned by the Yorubas. That said, those two in the pixs looks like Yoruba obas. . . . |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 2:25am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Whatever, whether they better fashioned it or laced it with gold, it is borrowed fashion, therefore they look like Isamized Africans, specifically from Mali and Mauritania, the origin of "Agbada". |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:26am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:27am On Nov 09, 2011 |
ezeagu: How exactly is this supposed to change my earlier statement? Ileke-IdI: Loooks like Yoruba kings. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 2:30am On Nov 09, 2011 |
The people in the Onicha photo look nothing like those in the second picture because 1. they're not wearing lace, 2. they're not holding fly-whisks in the second picture, and 3. the Onicha photo clothing is much richer. The origin of "Agabda": [center][/center] |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:32am On Nov 09, 2011 |
ezeagu: I'm going to let you continue denying what you see in that pixs. BTW, A simple Yoruba lesson; agbada's arent only made of lace. Yorubas have extended that aspect of agbada. Abeg, more pictures. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 2:35am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Extended, remixed, refashioned, replaced, revamped < Islamic Origin. NRI PRIEST: But the Igbo have not adopted it like others, it isn't seen like traditional clothing. Igbo people aren't Islamized. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:35am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 2:36am On Nov 09, 2011 |
[center]www.nairaland.com/attachments/566289_OBI_OF_ONICHA_jpg84f477f709a7eecf18182c80dad9cf23 [/center] This picture is so great. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:38am On Nov 09, 2011 |
^^^ Dont let the thing hurt you too much nau. I like that the Igbos are adopting the Yoruba/Hausa/Islamic attires during traditional ceremony. Shows religious and cultural expansion. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:39am On Nov 09, 2011 |
www.nairaland.com/attachments/566289_OBI_OF_ONICHA_jpg84f477f709a7eecf18182c80dad9cf23 Seriously, the one on the right looks he's going to a Yoruba's owanbe party. Yoruba attire. I'm liking this acculturation. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 2:39am On Nov 09, 2011 |
[center][/center] Does anyone know what even this was? Seeing as he's wearing less formal clothing as the last. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 2:45am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Ileke-IdI: Yoruba men wear wrappers to Owambe now? Everything borrowed? Formal national attire, much more professional, as can be seen. Non of that conquered-African stuff: [center] [img]http://1.bp..com/_cIW44Bimg1A/S8kkxn9rRlI/AAAAAAAAAtI/XzMsnjrrXkg/s1600/GoodluckJonathanArrivesAmerica.jpg[/img] [/center] |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:48am On Nov 09, 2011 |
ezeagu: Where do you see wrappers? I see a man wearing Yoruba owambe's attire. Obv this thing dey hurt you so o. LOL Kilode? wetin dey shele? www.nairaland.com/attachments/566289_OBI_OF_ONICHA_jpg84f477f709a7eecf18182c80dad9cf23 |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by lakal(m): 2:50am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Everyone borrows, and it's not suggesting that one group is inferior if adopts the attire of another. Agbada from the Sahelian regions to Western and Northern Nigeria "George" from the Delta to much of Southern Nigeria. Edo wrappers/swords to the Aniomas and Onitshas. The attire of the Onitsha people pictured here is great and an example of a rich cultural heritage. It appears identical to the attire I have seen in Anioma festivities (akwa ocha, coral beads, oto-ogwu), and has similarities with the Edo people. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:52am On Nov 09, 2011 |
lakal: LOL He's just saying it because he dey vex. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 2:53am On Nov 09, 2011 |
What was exactly meant to hurt me? Borrowed Islamic clothing from Fulani conquests, or the fact that the "Agbada" you were bragging about earlier was revealed to have originated hundreds of miles away from Yorubaland proving your Islamic "acculturation" that has already happened hundreds of years ago. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by NRIPRIEST(m): 2:54am On Nov 09, 2011 |
I know it must have bruised your heart very badly to know tha omo Igbo aint copying anybodys attire and to know that no single yoruba attire was witnessed there! Am sure you must have wished the above attire were of the yorubas and not Igbos!! Here is my advice; keep dreaming,fool. On the yoruba Obas pix u posted; if my logic works fine for me, I will have to conclude that yoruba obas dont have a kingly attire of yoruba origin!!! The hat ooni was wearing belongs to the hausas. The agbada was borrowed from hausa and their sahelian cousins!!! Go get ur own,ileke. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 2:56am On Nov 09, 2011 |
The exit is this way, leave quietly. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:57am On Nov 09, 2011 |
NRI PRIEST: They do. But they dont wear their kingly attires to every social events. Mehn, you ppl are so uneducated about Yoruba kings. One even said their attire are made out of lace or that they have no white horsetail. Modern Yoruba kinds dont wear their royal attires all the time. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 2:59am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Yoruba king [img]http://www./wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/oba11.jpg[/img] [img]http://yeyeolade.files./2011/08/yoruba_nigeria.jpg[/img] |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by lakal(m): 2:59am On Nov 09, 2011 |
I think most Yorubas who are educated are aware of elements of Islamic acculturation within the general culture. Even for those of us who are Christians. Hell, the words for: peace (alaafia) Thursday (alamisi) Friday (jimoh) usefulness (anfani) onion (alubosa) secret (ashiri) among many are all Arabic words. But the Igbo word for onion seems to have come from Arabic too, una sef dey acculturate small |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 3:00am On Nov 09, 2011 |
The Ileke-IdI: Another Grand bou-bou? Chai! |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 3:00am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Depending on where you are in Yorubaland, the attire may change. |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 3:02am On Nov 09, 2011 |
lakal: What are the words? |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 3:03am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Alaafin of Oyo [img]http://4.bp..com/-wDew_t8qI9s/TV_boi8-IrI/AAAAAAAAACY/43wPPDkJ4Dk/s1600/Alafin+Of+Oyo.jpg[/img] OOni of Ife |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by Nobody: 3:04am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Arinjale of Ise Ekiti [img]http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/thumbnail.php?file=adetunji_939750022.jpg&size=article_medium[/img] |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 3:04am On Nov 09, 2011 |
Yoruba king? [center][/center] |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by ezeagu(m): 3:05am On Nov 09, 2011 |
?? [center] [/center] |
Re: Pictures Of OBI Of Onitsha Doing Ofala Ceremony by lakal(m): 3:05am On Nov 09, 2011 |
ezeagu: Isn't "yabasi" Igbo for onion? The Yoruba and Igbo words for onion are derived from the Arabic "Al-basal." But let's not digress, for real. I was really enjoying the thread, it seems like an eminent tradition, and one that is going strong in Onitsha. |
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