ahmedio2017:




According to the Bible, the sacrificed is said to be Abraham's only son (or his firstborn in some versions), which cannot fit Isaac ; according to the Qur'ân, the good news of Isaac said that he would have a progeny and consequently God cannot order Abraham to sacrifice Isaac before the promise is fulfilled. Again, according to the Qur'ân, the sacrificed cannot be Isaac.


You like twisting things, God ordered Abraham to sacrifice his FIRST SON now the question who was his first son?

The Quran never mentioned it's Ishmael that was sacrificed.

When God said "thy only son" he was referring to his unique son, the son that God promised him.

Also, you saying the bible said is just RIDICULOUS. Read this:

Genesis 17:
15And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be.

16And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her.

17Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?

18And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!

19And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an EVERLASTING COVENANT, and with his seed after him.

20And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

21But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

22And he left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham."

MrPRevailer:


The Quran never mentioned it's Ishmael that was sacrificed.

When God said "thy only son" he was referring to his unique son, the son that God promised him.

Also, you saying the bible said is just RIDICULOUS. Read this:

Bible said Abraham first son
Now the question is who was Abraham first son?

ahmedio2017:



Bible said Abraham first son
Now the question is who was Abraham first son?

Please can you stop meddling?

I just showed you a full page of texts, God telling Abraham severally that he will establish his covenant with his Son Isaac, who was not yet born (and I can show you many more) And then worried Abraham asking God about Ishmael's future.

Please show me where bible said take your FIRST son.
As you can see, I did my talking with scripture verses not mere claims. So bring yours.

MrPRevailer:


Please can you stop meddling?

I just showed you a full page of texts, God telling Abraham severally that he will establish his covenant with his Son Isaac, who was not yet born (and I can show you many more) And then worried Abraham asking God about Ishmael's future.

Please show me where bible said take your FIRST son.
As you can see, I did my talking with scripture verses not mere claims. So bring yours.

Are you saying there is no any verse in the bible that talks about first son?

ahmedio2017:


Are you saying there is no any verse in the bible that talks about first son?

Ha, my friend.

Isn't it you that said God said bring your first son?
So I said show it to me and you are asking me to show it to you lol

O.k since you didn't know, there is no verse that God said to Abraham, bring your first Son.

God said "bring your only Son". Referring to the child that God promised him.
Ishmael was not promised but came as a result of carelessness/impatience with God. Sex outside of marriage.

MrPRevailer:


Ha, my friend.

Isn't it you that said God said bring your first son?
So I said show it to me and you are asking me to show it to you lol

O.k since you didn't know, there is no verse that God said to Abraham, bring your first Son.

He said "bring your only Son". Referring to the child that God promised him.
Ishmael was not promised but came as a result of carelessness. Sex outside of marriage.

He said "bring your only Son". Referring to the child that God promised him.
Ishmael was not promised but came as a result of carelessness. Sex outside of marriage.


Lolzzzzzzzz see hypocrisy ooooooooo so Ismael is not son of Abraham chai ... Ok who is the father of ismheal?

ahmedio2017:


He said "bring your only Son". Referring to the child that God promised him.
Ishmael was not promised but came as a result of carelessness. Sex outside of marriage.


Lolzzzzzzzz see hypocrisy ooooooooo so Ismael is not son of Abraham chai ... Ok who is the father of ismheal?

Why don't you understand simple explanation.

The bible calls Ishmael the son of Abraham. But he is not the covenant son.

Ok, let me put it in this example.

If you are married. And then go outside your marriage and beget children through Adultery.
And you later have children by your wife.
Those children you got by adultery came before the children of your marriage.

When your about to die will you will all your possessions to the children gotten by Adultery or to the children gotten by legal marriage?

MrPRevailer:


Why don't you understand simple explanation.

The bible calls Ishmael the son of Abraham. But he is not the covenant son.

Ok, let me put it in this example.

If you are married. And then go outside your marriage and beget children through Adultery.
And you later have children by your wife.
Those children you got by adultery came before the children of your marriage.

When your about to die will you will all your possessions to the children gotten by Adultery or to the children gotten by legal marriage?

I will share it for them because they all remain my sons

ahmedio2017:



I will share it for them because they all remain my sons

Which sons will take the chief of your possessions?

MrPRevailer:


Which sons will take the chief of your possessions?

First son

ahmedio2017:



First son

The Son of a bitch.
The Son of a woman you had a one night stand with.
The son of a prostitute.
Your son from another man's wife

You give him majority of your wealth, leaving the children of your wedlock with smaller possessions.

Wow. Just WOW.

Are you thinking?

That means you don't love your wife. And you'll leave your wealth to a strange woman and her children.

MrPRevailer:


The Son of a bitch.
The Son of a woman you had a one night stand with.
The son of a prostitute.
Your son from another man's wife

You give him majority of your wealth, leaving the children of your wedlock with smaller possessions.

Wow. Just WOW.

Are you thinking?

That means you don't love your wife. And you'll leave your wealth to a strange woman and her children.

Lolz are you frustrated already?
Is ismheal mother a prostitute
Is ismheal mother another person's wife when Abraham got her pregnant

ahmedio2017:



Lolz are you frustrated already?
Is ismheal mother a prostitute
Is ismheal mother another person's wife when Abraham got her pregnant

Ishmael's mother had a ONE-NIGHT stand with Abraham. (Prostitute or not , is same same)

She is another person's husband. After she finish serving Abraham she will get married.

You are already bringing Abraham when I'm asking you about your own legacy/possession

Let's finish one first na.

MrPRevailer:


Ishmael's mother had a ONE-NIGHT stand with Abraham. (Prostitute or not , is same same)

She is another person's husband. After she finish serving Abraham she will get married.

You are already bringing Abraham when I'm asking you about your own legacy/possession

Let's finish one first na.

She will get married? I don't understand to who? Who married her?

ahmedio2017:




She will get married? I don't understand to who? Who married her?

Haba!
Does being a servant to someone equally mean virgin for life?

Ofcourse, whether she is settled or continues to serve, she must marry.

Don't act like you don't know the obvious.

The rest of Hagar's life is not told because she's not important. She only came into the scene because Sarah made her do a one-night stand with her great man.
After which Sarah sent her away from the house. Because Hagar started rubbing shoulders with her and looking down on Madam (Sarah)

MrPRevailer:


Haba!
Does being a servant to someone equally mean virgin for life?

Ofcourse, whether she is settled or continues to serve, she must marry.

Don't act like you don't know the obvious.

The rest of Hagar's life is not told because she's not important. She only came into the scene because Sarah made her do a one-night stand with her great man.
After which Sarah sent her away from the house. Because Hagar started rubbing shoulders with her and looking down on Madam (Sarah)

You are a learned person I believe, if there is no evidence pls don't just quote, you said Hagar got married now to who?

ahmedio2017:



You are a learned person I believe, if there is no evidence pls don't just quote, you said Hagar got married now to who?

I didn't say Hagar got married.
I said it's common sense that a servant must get married. Except if she doesn't want to or she dies prematurely.

Like, how old are you?
You should know that a servant must be settled by his master to leave his/her own life.

So now are you saying Hagar did not get married?
All the servants of Abraham did not get married?
Oh, what about the servants of your own Father? (If was rich). They haven't gotten married yet or cannot marry?

What about Mohammed's servants in Hadith?