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Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by SoNature(m): 3:40pm On Feb 20
tunjilana:


It is actually the senate that should be closed...the house of rep is closer to the people than the senate

I prefer they keep the senate. Every state should have equal representation in the house. Besides, the senate has fewer reps than the HoR.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Offpoint1: 3:41pm On Feb 20
Btruth:
Oya now.......follow by states own electricity generations and others. State should control the resources too.

Let's go abeg.
Nigeria needs decentralization URGENTLY.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by seunjungle1(m): 3:41pm On Feb 20
Farmers must go back to farm
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by dealslip(f): 3:41pm On Feb 20
bentenny:
Establishing state policing without ensuring it's independence or not taking away the control of the state governor on the police will only lead to more complications and possibly more problems than solution!
We worry too much on minors. There are always checks and balances in everything. Even in the US,where there are checks and balances the police is still averse to the blacks. If our security challenges is addressed up to 75%. It is more important than what the state government does to one person. His opponent or his party.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by bolabadmus38: 3:42pm On Feb 20
That's if the politicians themselves will allow the police to do their work.. If the current NPF are allowed to do their job without any interference we will not be where we are today.

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Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Deffi(m): 3:42pm On Feb 20
WAY TO GO!!

.....What Buhari and his terrible govt couldn't do in 8 wasted and bloody years!!!

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Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Spartachizzy: 3:43pm On Feb 20
After establishing police station now, later they will start brutalizing the innocent citizen, nonsense GOVERNMENT
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by APOPTOSIS: 3:45pm On Feb 20
Watch how arrogant Governors would mismanage this state police of a thing.
It's like empowering the Governors to have cult groups.
Imagine someone like WIKE having a state police..
Come and witness rigging of elections now.
We are just evolving humans.!

I have said it countless times that the problem of Nigeria is LAWLESSNESS. We have good laws but implementation is zero. No one is ruthlessly dealt with.
A region would be more comfortable protecting their own national thief than bringing him out for public executioning. Imagine if we still had public firing squad..and you wanna tell me this madness across Nigeria will persist.... Hell Nooooo
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Obviouslyblunt: 3:47pm On Feb 20
Emman08:
Can't the States Houses of Assembly pass the bills themselves?
no. It’s the federal constitution that is being repelled here. Even after this, it has to go to the senate and pass , then it is signed into law.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by AllenSpencer: 3:48pm On Feb 20
Btruth:
Oya now.......follow by states own electricity generations and others. State should control the resources too.

Let's go abeg.

States already have the right to generate electricity
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Paraman: 3:49pm On Feb 20
Btruth:
Oya now.......follow by states own electricity generations and others. State should control the resources too.

Let's go abeg.
States can generate, transmit and distribute power supply since 22023 or 2022
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by AuwalYusuf812(m): 3:49pm On Feb 20
Congratulations to all the 36states governorsđź‘Śtorr am not in support of dis
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Paraman: 3:50pm On Feb 20
Obviouslyblunt:
no. It’s the federal constitution that is being repelled here. Even after this, it has to go to the senate and pass , then it is signed into law.
it might also go to the state assemblies too after the senate pass it
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by SapaProMax: 3:50pm On Feb 20
TimeManager:
History will be kind to Tinubu, he'd be remembered as the best president yet Nigeria has had. Restructuring is taking a gradual shape, signing into law the bill for states to general their own electricity and more to come with the constitutional review we're getting there.

-kiss the truth!




This is just a bitter truth. Some surgeries require no anesthesia since it could be fatal on us getting operated on. They will have to bear the pains in order to live a while longer. During the surger, the patient will wail and wail. Later he will be the one using his mouth to appraise the surgeon

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Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by oglalasioux(m): 3:51pm On Feb 20
SoNature:
The next should be a bill to shut down the house of reps. It's totally needless. Whatever the house of reps does, the senate should do it. Nigeria should cut down the cost of governance.

The meaning of a republic entails the existence of the two houses. They are not there for decoration. The states have members of the house of representatives according to their populations while every state has equal numbers of senators to balance it out. That's the meaning of a republic.

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Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by flokii: 3:51pm On Feb 20
State Policing is the way..

Any governor now that fails to secure his/her State would be held responsible and forced out of office. No more oga at the top in Abuja issuing order to release kidnappers.

We'll see how the ones that release killers after swearing with quran will fair.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Obviouslyblunt: 3:54pm On Feb 20
Paraman:
it might also go to the state assemblies too after the senate pass it
true. Different state assemblies must sit and debate before signing it into law in their states. This is a process that if successful might take up to 4 years to really implement nationally.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by TruthsFM: 3:54pm On Feb 20
dealslip:

Restructuring is entering through the back gate little by little. Even the North will eventually see the benefit of restructuring as they are the most challenged security wise in Nigeria. They will benefit most
yes soo. When they see the effect of state police in their various communities, they will embrace restructuring
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Obviouslyblunt: 3:56pm On Feb 20
SapaProMax:

This is just a bitter truth. Some surgeries require no anesthesia since it could be fatal on us getting operated on. They will have to bear the pains in order to live a while longer. During the surger, the patient will wail and wail. Later he will be the one using his mouth to appraise the surgeon
lol. See excuse. Now what if the surgeon has killed loads of patients through that same process? Cos that’s what’s even happening.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Nicepoker(m): 3:57pm On Feb 20
mytime24:
Governor's police against their opposition 🤔
just hear yourself.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by XPMExchange: 3:57pm On Feb 20
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Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by seunjungle1(m): 3:57pm On Feb 20
Restructuring there we goooooooooooooooo
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by J3susFr3ak: 3:59pm On Feb 20
oluwaseyi0:
What we need is regional police not state

most states are too weak financially to run their own police

but states of the same region pulling resources together to create a force will be more viable and strong

otherwise what you wil have is governor's tool, and in the North low key boko haram aka Hisbah

I once suggested the idea that some states with financial challenges can creatively embark on a policing program for their existing staff, where people interested can give three days to their normal office work and two days to doing police work with additional benefits eg. Hazard allowances etc. In this way those who find sleeping in office too boring can decide to use their two days for active patrols or some other policing work.

With regards to the fears about abuse, their are always ways to enforce checks and balances. The State Police can either be answerable to a neutral Judiciary and council of traditional rulers. OR, you reduce or remove the Governor's immunity while also giving the opposition some veto powers to charge the Governor to court with credible evidence if they see a clear case of abuse.

Their are many other potential options a State can take to enforce checks and balances.


Concerning aggregating a region's resources to fund the policing..,,

It could be workable in entirely or mostly homogeneous region's like,e the SW or SE.

The North Central as it is today is not homogeneous and deserves to be divided into two or three different regions like Central West (Niger, Kogi etc) with areas consisting of similar cultures can pool together and areas like the Mid-Central ( Plateau, Benue, Christian parts of Southern Kaduna and Nassarawa) and Central East (Taraba, etc.,) can pool their policing resources together.

I mention this because making this regional affair as inherited from the archaic and outdated colonial notions of what regions are (while may help large homogeneous areas) sadly, will only embolden places like Kaduna, and other core Muslim states to double down on using their so called repented and converted Boko Haram and Fulani Herder Terrorist to eliminate and wipe out large indigenous Christian populations who are unable to defend themselves even within a state policing construct. The eventual pogroms could make something like the Armenian genocide child's play as a result if the divergent indigenous areas are not enabled to also enforce their self-determination and policing.

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Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Paraman: 4:01pm On Feb 20
Obviouslyblunt:
true. Different state assemblies must sit and debate before signing it into law in their states. This is a process that if successful might take up to 4 years to really implement nationally.
It can be done in less than a year if the state assemblies do not delay the bills. with the governors in support of state police, I don't see the state house of assemblies delaying the bill.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by SoNature(m): 4:01pm On Feb 20
oglalasioux:


The meaning of a republic entails the existence of the two houses. They are not there for decoration. The states have members of the house of representatives according to their populations while every state has equal numbers of senators to balance it out. That's the meaning of a republic.

Thank you for the lecture, but those who gave us the definition of republic with bicameral houses should also give us the money for running it. Perhaps since Nigeria is a republic, states should also have two houses.

Let me be clear, as far government is concerned, there's no one-fits-it-all rule in it. Every serious country fine-tunes governance to fit into its reality.

In other words, we must not implement everything we learnt in government textbooks. Sometimes, there's a huge disparity between book knowledge and reality.

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Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Paraman: 4:03pm On Feb 20
dealslip:

We worry too much on minors. There are always checks and balances in everything. Even in the US,where there are checks and balances the police is still averse to the blacks. If our security challenges is addressed up to 75%. It is more important than what the state government does to one person. His opponent or his party.
So till when are we going to wait for the FG to solve insecurity issues all over Nigeria
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Obviouslyblunt: 4:09pm On Feb 20
Paraman:
It can be done in less than a year if the state assemblies do not delay the bills. with the governors in support of state police, I don't see the state house of assemblies delaying the bill.

I highly doubt this. Money has to be made available for this, so a new bill will state policing provision must be made. These men will be trained. States will deliberate on how to protect employment. With how Nigeria is, I don’t see this being done in 2 years.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by AlabiKILLER2021(m): 4:15pm On Feb 20
cocolacec:
Amotekun to become Western region Police.


Yes

Expecially in Ogun state where 99% of it's citizen are now ravaging tomb raiders grin
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by emerged01(m): 4:15pm On Feb 20
ArewaNightmare:
grin our governors should not misuse this
You cant tell me because knife can be misused that you wont have knife.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Paraman: 4:15pm On Feb 20
Obviouslyblunt:
I highly doubt this. Money has to be made available for this, so a new bill will state policing provision must be made. These men will be trained. States will deliberate on how to protect employment. With how Nigeria is, I don’t see this being done in 2 years.
We shall see. The national assembly promised to be through with constitution review by december 2025.
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by Ttipsy(f): 4:15pm On Feb 20
Btruth:
Oya now.......follow by states own electricity generations and others. State should control the resources too.

Let's go abeg.
I support this
I want Lagos to have her resources
Re: State Police: House Of Representatives Passes Bill For Second Reading by socialjustice93: 4:17pm On Feb 20
ArewaNightmare:
grin our governors should not misuse this

Bro see the bigger picture first. State policing is long overdue, it might not be perfect and might also not bring a lasting solution to the security issues bedeviling this country, but will go a long way in curtailing it. We can always checkmate any foolish governor that wants to take advantage of this.
Anything to checkmate this surge in kidnapping is fine biko.

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