Kukutenla:

Concrete roads have not been done by the FG before now. It is Umahi who is pushing for federal contractors to use concrete. Some of them have disagreed with him and he told them to sign a bond of 30 years durability for asphalt roads. Since you said the Minister should be more concerned about cost. Is that not a good cost saving technique coming from him? Why didn't the great Fash think of that for the 8 years he was in charge of that ministry?

So what is the job of the Minister if you say it is an abberation for him to supervise roads. Even governors supervise roads.

It is not new
Fashola has been doing this before Umahi became governor
. https://guardian.ng/news/fashola-inaugurates-28-km-itori-ibeshe-concrete-road-built-by-dangote/

Kukutenla:

Concrete roads have not been done by the FG before now. It is Umahi who is pushing for federal contractors to use concrete. Some of them have disagreed with him and he told them to sign a bond of 30 years durability for asphalt roads. Since you said the Minister should be more concerned about cost. Is that not a good cost saving technique coming from him? Why didn't the great Fash think of that for the 8 years he was in charge of that ministry?

So what is the job of the Minister if you say it is an abberation for him to supervise roads. Even governors supervise roads.

You people like to hype yourselves with lies


Listen to Fashola in 2020 a real achiever

https://dateline.ng/fg-deploying-home-grown-technology-in-road-construction-fashola/

He said this technology had been deployed in the construction of the Enugu-Port Harcourt, Abuja-Kano and Lagos-Ibadan highway projects among others across the country.

The minister also said the partnership with NBRRI had resulted in the extensive use of concrete in road construction.

“We have introduced it in Obajana-Kabba, Apapa to Oworonsoki, Papalanto and Kaduna Western Bypass.

“We have now introduced for the first time a concrete design manual; Nigeria didn’t have it before.

”We developed it at this ministry and we shared it at the last National Council of Works meeting which held in December 2020.

So do not come here to be telling us ridiculous stories

They have enough technocrats in the Ministry
That is not the job of a Minister

aribisala0:

They say it is Lagos to Calabar
Food normal!y enter the body through the Mouth

because they know that it won't work so they want to finish lagos side first before maybe a northerner takes over and stop the project,lagos Ibadan express way of 100 kilometers is still not finished after 12 years this guys dey see us as mumu ooh

aribisala0:


You people like to hype yourselves with lies


Listen to Fashola in 2020 a real achiever

https://dateline.ng/fg-deploying-home-grown-technology-in-road-construction-fashola/

He said this technology had been deployed in the construction of the Enugu-Port Harcourt, Abuja-Kano and Lagos-Ibadan highway projects among others across the country.

The minister also said the partnership with NBRRI had resulted in the extensive use of concrete in road construction.

“We have introduced it in Obajana-Kabba, Apapa to Oworonsoki, Papalanto and Kaduna Western Bypass.

“We have now introduced for the first time a concrete design manual; Nigeria didn’t have it before.

”We developed it at this ministry and we shared it at the last National Council of Works meeting which held in December 2020.

So do not come here to be telling us ridiculous stories

They have enough technocrats in the Ministry
That is not the job of a Minister

Well, Fashola is lying

This is a thread showing concrete roads constructed by Umahi in Ebonyi as at 2018.

https://www.nairaland.com/4551450/concrete-road-technology-ebonyi-state
So Fashola talking about it in 2020 when he did not construct a km of road using concrete is just blowing hot air like his famous "electricity is not rocket science" slip.
All the roads he mentioned were done by Dangote as CSR and not as FG contracts

aribisala0:


It is not new
Fashola has been doing this before Umahi became governor
. https://guardian.ng/news/fashola-inaugurates-28-km-itori-ibeshe-concrete-road-built-by-dangote/

As I already told you, the road was done by Dangote as part of CSR and was not an FG funded project
I hope you know the difference

Kukutenla:

Well, Fashola is lying

This is a thread showing concrete roads constructed by Umahi in Ebonyi as at 2018.

https://www.nairaland.com/4551450/concrete-road-technology-ebonyi-state
So Fashola talking about it in 2020 when he did not construct a km of road using concrete is just blowing hot air like his famous "electricity is not rocket science" slip.
All the roads he mentioned were done by Dangote as CSR and not as FG contracts

Fashola said That in 2020
He was speaking as Minister of Works
open the link
Not today
Umahi was still in Ebonyi

Why would Fashola tell such a lie in 2020?
To what end ?

Make it make sense
You are looking very ridiculous now

What about the. Apapa Oshodi expressway?
The Obajana road?
Even as governor he was doing concrete roads in Lagos state

Kukutenla:

As I already told you, the road was done by Dangote as part of CSR and was not an FG funded project
I hope you know the difference

I
You have shifted from Umahi' s brilliance in generating ideas as a round peg Engineer to How it is funded?
So do you admit first that it is not a new idea and you do not need an Engineer as Minister for that idea?
How is this Lagos Calabar road To be funded do you know ?

Umahi is on record as saying HITECH will fund it
Is Umahi not pursuing PPP initiatives?
You have nothing to say

The road Dangote did is 100% a federal.road. He is not tolling the road
Rather he funded the road as an advance payment as discounted tax credit he was due to pay and did the road not How he likes but according to the Federal Ministry of Works specifications and under their supervision. Effectively be was a contractor and he was paid by a tax rebate
Umahi is going to be pursuing similar funding models because the FG does not have cash

HI-TECH WILL TOLL this Lagos to Calabar ROAD compare that with what Dangote did

Just rest. There is nothing special about Umahi

aribisala0:


Fashola said That in 2020
He was speaking as Minister of Works
open the link
Not today
Umahi was still in Ebonyi

Why would Fashola tell such a lie in 2020?
To what end ?

Make it make sense
You are looking very ridiculous now

What about the. Apapa Oshodi expressway?
The Obajana road?
Even as governor he was doing concrete roads in Lagos state

Did you open the link?
Umahi already completed concrete roads as at 2018 while fashola was just talking about it as at 2020.

aribisala0:
I
You have shifted from Umahi' s brilliance in generating ideas as a round peg Engineer to How it is funded?
So do you admit first that it is not a new idea and you do not need an Engineer as Minister for that idea?
How is this Lagos Calabar road To be funded do you know ?

Umahi is on record as saying HITECH will fund it
Is Umahi not pursuing PPP initiatives?
You have nothing to say

The road Dangote did is 100% a federal.road. He is not tolling the road
Rather he funded the road as an advance payment as discounted tax credit he was due to pay and did the road not How he likes but according to the Federal Ministry of Works specifications and under their supervision. Effectively be was a contractor and he was paid by a tax rebate
Umahi is going to be pursuing similar funding models because the FG does not have cash

HI-TECH WILL TOLL this Lagos to Calabar ROAD compare that with what Dangote did

Just rest. There is nothing special about Umahi

Are you reading those links or just pulling things out of your head? Dangote did Obajana and Itoshi road as CSR not for tax rebate. Tax rebate order was signed in 2019. You're mixing things up again.
There's nothing like FG specification. He submitted a proposal for the road just as Pastor Adeboye did for the road in his hometown and it was approved. FG never specified concrete for the roads.
The concrete specification is just coming up under Umahi and some contractors are already fighting it.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/09/fg-to-enforce-use-of-concrete-road-construction-minister/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiumrujpsyEAxWpU0EAHeYwA8IQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2j0jWj0xc6AfG78GExW_Ed

Kukutenla:

Did you open the link?
Umahi already completed concrete roads as at 2018 while fashola was just talking about it as at 2020.

You are mixing things we are dealing with your claim about Federal level.

Can you see what you said below can you see that you are a liar

Kukutenla:

Concrete roads have not been done by the FG before now. It is Umahi who is pushing for federal contractors to use concrete. Some of them have disagreed with him and he told them to sign a bond of 30 years durability for asphalt roads. Since you said the Minister should be more concerned about cost. Is that not a good cost saving technique coming from him? Why didn't the great Fash think of that for the 8 years he was in charge of that ministry?

So what is the job of the Minister if you say it is an abberation for him to supervise roads. Even governors supervise roads.

Again

Fashola finished as governor before Umahi started.He completed concrete roads in Lagos state

Tell us the longest concrete road Umahi completed
Is it. the one that we recently saw photos showing it has failed?

Everything about you is just lies
Lies and more lies
Now the Apapa Oworonshoki road was on at th time I Fashola's speech
The one in Kogi was finished
Fashola was in charge of the Federal Ministry of Works when they articulated a National concrete Master plan He is not an Engineer

Kukutenla:

Are you reading those links or just pulling things out of your head? Dangote did Obajana and Itoshi road as CSR not for tax rebate. Tax rebate order was signed in 2019. You're mixing things up again.
There's nothing like FG specification. He submitted a proposal for the road just as Pastor Adeboye did for the road in his hometown and it was approved. FG never specified concrete for the roads.
The concrete specification is just coming up under Umahi and some contractors are already fighting it.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/09/fg-to-enforce-use-of-concrete-road-construction-minister/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiumrujpsyEAxWpU0EAHeYwA8IQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2j0jWj0xc6AfG78GExW_Ed

You are farther and farther
Do You admit that Umahi did not start concrete roads
AS YOU CLAIMED
Do you admit that concrete roads are not new.
AS YOU CLAIMED
Do you admit that UMAHI did not Pioneer concrete roads whether at state level or FEDERAL LEVEL


NOW how it is funded is irrelevant to any of those claims
A tax rebate is not The same as a tax credit
Roads or anything delivered through CSR can for accounting purposes be listed as an operational cost and deductible from profit

A tax credit is usually in the form of a contract
https://www.thecable.ng/fec-approves-n309bn-road-contract-to-dangote-as-tax-credit/amp

That is deductible from tax due and may be further discounted dependent on negotiation

Regardless of how it is funded it is irrelevant


This Lagos Calabar road is funded by HITECH

The Apapa Oworonshoki road was a tax credit
It does not matter

The issue under discussion is your claim that Umahi brought something special by being an Engineer and that he pioneered concrete roads in Nigeria and at the Federal level
That is a lie. A blatant lie

aribisala0:


You are mixing things we are dealing with your claim about Federal level.

Can you see what you said below can you see that you are a liar
Again

Fashola finished as governor before Umahi started.He completed concrete roads in Lagos state

Tell us the longest concrete road Umahi completed
Is it. the one that we recently saw photos showing it has failed?

Everything about you is just lies
Lies and more lies
Now the Apapa Oworonshoki road was on at th time I Fashola's speech
The one in Kogi was finished
Fashola was in charge of the Federal Ministry of Works when they articulated a National concrete Master plan He is not an Engineer

You have not said anything. Show me fashola telling a federal contractor to build roads with concrete.
I already showed your Dangote roads were CSR.
Umahi built roads with concrete in 2018. Show me links of fashola building federal roads in 2020. Even the link you pasted, he was only repeating what NBRRI, am agency under the ministry of works told him.
This one by Umahi is to be reinforced with 20% steel hope you're aware.
It is totally different from what NBRRI told fashola

aribisala0:

You are farther and farther
Do You admit that Umahi did not start concrete roads
AS YOU CLAIMED
Do you admit that concrete roads are not new.
AS YOU CLAIMED
Do you admit that UMAHI did not Pioneer concrete roads whether at state level or FEDERAL LEVEL


NOW how it is funded is irrelevant to any of those claims
A tax rebate is not The same as a tax credit
Roads or anything delivered through CSR can for accounting purposes be listed as an operational cost and deductible from profit

A tax credit is usually in the form of a contract
https://www.thecable.ng/fec-approves-n309bn-road-contract-to-dangote-as-tax-credit/amp

That is deductible from tax due and may be further discounted dependent on negotiation

Regardless of how it is funded it is irrelevant


This Lagos Calabar road is funded by HITECH

The Apapa Oworonshoki road was a tax credit
It does not matter

The issue under discussion is your claim that Umahi brought something special by being an Engineer and that he pioneered concrete roads in Nigeria and at the Federal level
That is a lie. A blatant lie

Show me fashola telling contractors to use concrete.
I already showed you Dangote built those roads as CSR. He was not mandated to build them neither was he "acting" as a contractor to FMW as you claimed.
Umahi is the first minister of the Federal Republic to demand that contractors use concrete, reinforced for that matter on federal roads. If you have any such specification from fashola, bring it

Kukutenla:

You have not said anything. Show me fashola telling a federal contractor to build roads with concrete.
I already showed your Dangote roads were CSR.
Umahi built roads with concrete in 2018. Show me links of fashola building federal roads in 2020. Even the link you pasted, he was only repeating what NBRRI, am agency under the ministry of works told him.
This one by Umahi is to be reinforced with 20% steel hope you're aware.
It is totally different from what NBRRI told fashola

You claimed Umahi pioneered concrete roads in Nigeria
Do you admit That is false?
How does the funding matter to That claim?
Is the FG funding this Lagos Calabar road?

Kukutenla:

Show me fashola telling contractors to use concrete.
I already showed you Dangote built those roads as CSR. He was not mandated to build them neither was he "acting" as a contractor to FMW as you claimed.
Umahi is the first minister of the Federal Republic to demand that contractors use concrete, reinforced for that matter on federal roads. If you have any such specification from fashola, bring it

Apapa Oworonshoki road was not build under CSR
Regardless
It is a Federal road
It is concrete
It happened under Fashola

aribisala0:

Apapa Oworonshoki road was not build under CSR
Regardless
It is a Federal road
It is concrete
It happened under Fashola

You keep harping on Dangote. Is Dangote an FG contractor? Dangote built the road using his own specification and not any specification from ministry of works. He was more or less independent. Read below:
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/09/16/fg-hands-over-35km-apapa-oworonshoki-expressway-to-dangote-for-repair

aribisala0:

You claimed Umahi pioneered concrete roads in Nigeria
Do you admit That is false?
How does the funding matter to That claim?
Is the FG funding this Lagos Calabar road?

Umahi pioneered road construction using concrete by FG. That's a fact.
Why are the contractors resisting the idea of it's not new?

Kukutenla:

You keep harping on Dangote. Is Dangote an FG contractor? Dangote built the road using his own specification and not any specification from ministry of works. He was more or less independent. Read below:
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/09/16/fg-hands-over-35km-apapa-oworonshoki-expressway-to-dangote-for-repair

Yes he is. He has been awarded many road contracts

E.g THE CONCRETE. Lekki Deep sea port access road among others
https://www.thecable.ng/fec-approves-n309bn-road-contract-to-dangote-as-tax-credit/amp
But that is irrelevant
You claim that Umahi as an Engineer pioneered concrete roads
Dangote is not an Engineer but built concrete roads
Do you admit that your claim is false
Umahi ' s roads in Ebonyi are crumbling
We are discussing your round peg claim

Fashola is the one that articulated a national Master plan for concrete roads
He is not an Engineer

Kukutenla:

Umahi pioneered road construction using concrete by FG. That's a fact.
Why are the contractors resisting the idea of it's not new?

That is not true Fashola did
Who is resisting
that is a diversion
They claim Umahi is
shifting the goalposts in the middle of the game. And his directive will lead to financial loss for them
It is not a resistance to concrete in principle but COST and a claim of breach of contract,they want more money
Further evidence of Umahi's incompetence . That is a blunder a lawyer would not make

Face the issue stop lying
Dangote was awarded contract for concrete access road to Lekki Deep sea port BY FASHOLA

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aribisala0:


Yes he is. He has been awarded many road contracts

E.g THE CONCRETE. Lekki Deep sea port access road among others
https://www.thecable.ng/fec-approves-n309bn-road-contract-to-dangote-as-tax-credit/amp
But that is irrelevant
You claim that Umahi as an Engineer pioneered concrete roads
Dangote is not an Engineer but built concrete roads
Do you admit that your claim is false
Umahi ' s roads in Ebonyi are crumbling
We are discussing your round peg claim

Fashola is the one that articulated a national Master plan for concrete roads
He is not an Engineer

Fashola did not articulate any masterplan for concrete roads. That was done by NBRRI and it was a proposal in 2020 which he never implemented.
You keep harping on tax credit and CSR roads. You think Dangote is the only industrialist who did that? Even MTN did. I guess MTN is now an FG contractor to you.

aribisala0:

That is not true Fashola did
Who is resisting
that is a diversion
They claim Umahi is
shifting the goalposts in the middle of the game. And his directive will lead to financial loss for them
It is not a resistance to concrete in principle but COST and a claim of breach of contract,they want more money
Further evidence of Umahi's incompetence . That is a blunder a lawyer would not make

Face the issue stop lying
Dangote was awarded contract for concrete access road to Lekki Deep sea port BY FASHOLA

Stop lying.
They never accused Umahi of shifting goalposts. Umahi says if you insist on asphalt road, then you have to sign 30 year bond with FG. How many of them have taken up that challenge?
If it was not that he's knowledgeable, he would have folded when the contractors threatened. But with his new requirement that asphalt roads last up to 30 years. FG wins both ways!!
A lawyer wouldn't have known about that aspect of durability requirement

matify83:
I so much love the concept of incorporating rail lines within the median strips of the road.
Rail journeys adjacent such roads will be fun and less monotonous.
It will surely be a sight to behold if this project comes to fruition.

This is how things are done in a Saner Clime!
Now that N1-Trillion was immediately approved by the Federal Executive Council immediately at the Meeting,shows the seriousness of this ALL Important Projects that also have a broad range Economic Development Growth to all the 8-10 States Involved and Nigeria in general!
A good one indeed!

aribisala0:

That is not true Fashola did
Who is resisting
that is a diversion
They claim Umahi is
shifting the goalposts in the middle of the game. And his directive will lead to financial loss for them
It is not a resistance to concrete in principle but COST and a claim of breach of contract,they want more money
Further evidence of Umahi's incompetence . That is a blunder a lawyer would not make

Face the issue stop lying
Dangote was awarded contract for concrete access road to Lekki Deep sea port BY FASHOLA

Minister of Works, David Umahi: For warning contractors to meet the required standard within stipulated periods, forming a team of retired security personnel to protect construction sites and workers, and approving the use of concrete in most carriageways as it offers superior durability and less maintenance compared to asphalt.

The above is from a thread on fp. I guess you can see I'm not the only one who thinks it's Umahi who stayed use of concrete as a policy on FG roads.
You lied

Kukutenla:

Stop lying.
They never accused Umahi of shifting goalposts. Umahi says if you insist on asphalt road, then you have to sign 30 year bond with FG. How many of them have taken up that challenge?
If it was not that he's knowledgeable, he would have folded when the contractors threatened. But with his new requirement that asphalt roads last up to 30 years. FG wins both ways!!
A lawyer wouldn't have known about that aspect of durability requirement

The bone of contention is that Umahi by being an Engineer is a round peg in a round hole. That he pioneered concrete roads in Nigeria
All these tricks to change the subject will not work
There is no evidence from any developed country that having an Engineer as Minister of Works provides any benefit
Umahi did not Pioneer concrete roads. You claimed it is a new idea it is not it has been around since the 1940s
In Nigeria at state level Fashola has been building concrete roads before Umahi dreamt he will be a governor
Fashola at federal.level.awarded concrete road contract to Dangote for the Lekki Deep sea port access road and Apapa Oworonshoki expressway
Fashola Articulated the national master plan for concrete road construction
Again back to your FALSE CLAIM that Umahi pioneered concrete roads At federal level
You asked

WHY DIDN'T FASHOLA THINK OF CONCRETE in his eight years as MINISTER.
well be did as shown above

Again you try to change the subject by going on about CSR . I schooled you that CSR is tax deductible I schooled you that Dangote is a contractor to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION
I schooled you that HI-TECH is funding this Lagos Calabar road and the mode of funding is irrelevant to your claim.That there is anything special about having an Engineer as Minister of works

That is the bone of contention stop all these silly tricks and stop going around in circles

Finally the contractors said so and I will post the link
You are the liar
You are empty
Stick to the bone of contention about Umahi bringing concrete roads to Nigeria

Kukutenla:

Stop lying.
They never accused Umahi of shifting goalposts. Umahi says if you insist on asphalt road, then you have to sign 30 year bond with FG. How many of them have taken up that challenge?
If it was not that he's knowledgeable, he would have folded when the contractors threatened. But with his new requirement that asphalt roads last up to 30 years. FG wins both ways!!
A lawyer wouldn't have known about that aspect of durability requirement

They did accuse him of shifting the goalposts

This is the evidence


https://punchng.com/contractors-protest-as-fg-dumps-asphalt-for-concrete-roads/

All you do is lie and lie and lie

Meanwhile, contractors handling ongoing highway projects across the country have protested against the directive, describing the move by Umahi as an alleged breach of contracts that could lead to huge losses on the part of the government.

They said the decision by the minister to abruptly order contractors to dump asphalt for concrete technology was tantamount to “shifting the goalposts in the middle of the game.”

According to them, construction companies have invested several millions of dollars in asphalt technology equipment and also imported bitumen and other raw materials running into billion of naira, adding that shifting to concrete technology at the current stages of the road projects will lead to millions of dollars in losses.


SO RATHER THAN SHOWING ANY BENEFIT
his being an Engineer has not helped
He showed incompetence in understanding contracts and put the government at risk of having to settle a breach of contract case

Kukutenla:




The above is from a thread on fp. I guess you can see I'm not the only one who thinks it's Umahi who stayed use of concrete as a policy on FG roads.
You lied

Not interested
I have shown you evidence
https://www.thecable.ng/fec-approves-n309bn-road-contract-to-dangote-as-tax-credit/amp
You are repeating the same nonsense.
There is nothing special about Umahi or having an Engineer as Minister of Works

All your claims are lies and have been dismantled

aribisala0:

Not interested
I have shown you evidence
https://www.thecable.ng/fec-approves-n309bn-road-contract-to-dangote-as-tax-credit/amp
You are repeating the same nonsense.
There is nothing special about Umahi or having an Engineer as Minister of Works

All your claims are lies and have been dismantled

How come all your evidence is only Dangote
Is Dangote the only FG "contractor"?
How come others such as RCC, CCECC, JB, D&S, Salini etc are not using concrete?
Umahi has revolutionised road construction methodology in Nigeria.
You may not like the sound of his name but you need to make your peace with it.
Again, Fashola couldn't even tame ordinary discos cause he couldn't understand the technicalities of their claims.

Kukutenla:

How come all your evidence is only Dangote
Is Dangote the only FG "contractor"?
How come others such as RCC, CCECC, JB, D&S, Salini etc are not using concrete?
Umahi has revolutionised road construction methodology in Nigeria.
You may not like the sound of his name but you need to make your peace with it.
Again, Fashola couldn't even tame ordinary discos cause he couldn't understand the technicalities of their claims.

You have said this before
Have you got anything new?
The bone of contention has been clearly articulated above
Umahi did not Pioneer concrete roads
Being an Engineer does not add any value to being Minister of Works
If you want concrete you award a contract for concrete and pay for it
The question about anyone not using concrete is unintelligent
Was there anyone paid for concrete that did not use it?

aribisala0:



They did accuse him of shifting the goalposts

This is the evidence


https://punchng.com/contractors-protest-as-fg-dumps-asphalt-for-concrete-roads/

All you do is lie and lie and lie

Meanwhile, contractors handling ongoing highway projects across the country have protested against the directive, describing the move by Umahi as an alleged breach of contracts that could lead to huge losses on the part of the government.

They said the decision by the minister to abruptly order contractors to dump asphalt for concrete technology was tantamount to “shifting the goalposts in the middle of the game.”

According to them, construction companies have invested several millions of dollars in asphalt technology equipment and also imported bitumen and other raw materials running into billion of naira, adding that shifting to concrete technology at the current stages of the road projects will lead to millions of dollars in losses.


SO RATHER THAN SHOWING ANY BENEFIT
his being an Engineer has not helped
He showed incompetence in understanding contracts and put the government at risk of having to settle a breach of contract case

But you have been here claiming FG has been using concrete before you had your first erection.
How come your link is showing contractors protesting FG's decision to DuMP asphalt for concrete. With your own hands, you exposed your lies.
Meanwhile, you as usual failed to read your link to the end. You only picked the part that suits you which is to be on the side of the corrupt contractors who want to do roads that don't last for ten years so they can keep getting new contracts. Read further below:

He said, “ There is a binding law. It is called general condition of contract and it is a regulation that all engineers must conform to. In our contract agreement with all contractors for every project, we bring general condition of contract as part of the requirement of that contract and it is binding. I will read Clause 51 of the conditions to remind those contractors that want to initiate court action.

It states that the engineer shall subject to the approval of the employer, make any variation of the form, quality, or quantity of the works or any part thereof that may in his opinion be necessary and for that purpose or if for any other reason it shall in his opinion be desirable.

I am ready to fight anyone who wants to go to court. I did contract law at my university and I know what my limits are, a client can state whatever specifications on any contract signed. We can change from asphalt to concrete.”

You can see Umahi here quoting relevant portions of our civil engineering laws since he's an expert in the area. I've not seen any contractor come out to counter him or go to court since then.
If it were Fashola, he would have folded under pressure just as he did with the Discos.
Hope you're leaning new things.
Mind you, Umahi has asked any contractor who insists on using asphalt to come and sign a bond for 30 years. Can Fashola even think of that?

Kukutenla:

But you have been here claiming FG has been using concrete before you had your first erection.
How come your link is showing contractors protesting FG's decision to DuMP asphalt for concrete. With your own hands, you exposed your lies.
Meanwhile, you as usual failed to read your link to the end. You only picked the part that suits you which is to be on the side of the corrupt contractors who want to do roads that don't last for ten years so they can keep getting new contracts. Read further below:



You can see Umahi here quoting relevant portions of our civil engineering laws since he's an expert in the area. I've not seen any contractor come out to counter him or go to court since then.
If it were Fashola, he would have folded under pressure just as he did with the Discos.
Hope you're leaning new things.
Mind you, Umahi has asked any contractor who insists on using asphalt to come and sign a bond for 30 years. Can Fashola even think of that?

They accused him of shifting the goalposts
Yes or no?

aribisala0:


The bone of contention is that Umahi by being an Engineer is a round peg in a round hole. That he pioneered concrete roads in Nigeria
All these tricks to change the subject will not work
There is no evidence from any developed country that having an Engineer as Minister of Works provides any benefit
Umahi did not Pioneer concrete roads. You claimed it is a new idea it is not it has been around since the 1940s
In Nigeria at state level Fashola has been building concrete roads before Umahi dreamt he will be a governor
Fashola at federal.level.awarded concrete road contract to Dangote for the Lekki Deep sea port access road and Apapa Oworonshoki expressway
Fashola Articulated the national master plan for concrete road construction
Again back to your FALSE CLAIM that Umahi pioneered concrete roads At federal level
You asked

WHY DIDN'T FASHOLA THINK OF CONCRETE in his eight years as MINISTER.
well be did as shown above

Again you try to change the subject by going on about CSR . I schooled you that CSR is tax deductible I schooled you that Dangote is a contractor to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION
I schooled you that HI-TECH is funding this Lagos Calabar road and the mode of funding is irrelevant to your claim.That there is anything special about having an Engineer as Minister of works

That is the bone of contention stop all these silly tricks and stop going around in circles

Finally the contractors said so and I will post the link
You are the liar
You are empty
Stick to the bone of contention about Umahi bringing concrete roads to Nigeria

First off, I'm not responsible for how you choose to understand what is written.
What I wrote clearly is that Umahi is pioneering concrete roads in federal roads construction. You claimed Fashola has done it before and I swiftly debunked that.
Again, the fact that all the roads you can point to as concrete federal roads were done by Dangote proved my point.
The fact that almost all FG Road contractors resisted the shift to concrete by claiming they don't have the resources for concrete further seals my point.
It is obvious you do not know the difference between CSR and road contract. NNPCL has been repairing some federal roads recently. Are you going to claim that NNPCL is a contractor to federal govt too?
I've also shown you how Umahi countered the contractors based on his knowledge and he has even incorporated steel reinforcement into the concrete roads to give Ajaokuta steel a new lease of life. Why didn't Fashola think of that too.
Umahi is a round peg in a round hole.
You just have to make your peace with it