patriot2:
I have given up debating with muslims about faith, you people never make any sense and logics just don't seem to apply to you. So talking to you is just like talking to an ape or a cow, it is source of headache.

tbaba1234:

Your assertions are in accurate: The prophets in the Quran are as follows: Hud, Salih and Shuayb were mentioned nowhere in the bible, same with lukman.

The Quran was recited to an audience: The pagan arabs were familiar with the cities of Hud and Thamud destruction: Hud and Salih were Arab prophet so was shuayb.

The Quran also spoke to the Jews and christians: the stories of these prophets relates to them..

Talking about about African or european prophet is out of place because it does not relate to the pagan Arab or the jew:: So that is why the prophet were from the region of revelation.

LagosShia:

i am not vexed.i'm only amazed that a christian is teaming up with an atheist to blaspheme and utter very vulgar remarks against Muslims.but this same atheist uttered worse to christians.i will not follow his rudeness or engage him on such nonsense.so he'd better be left with silence as a fool that he is.

emöfine2: I got 2 quick questions.


1)If Muslim men are only permitted to marry up to 4 wives how comes the Prophet Muhammed (shall I say PBUH ) had more than 4 wives?

2)Is exorcism present in Islam?


I apologise if these questions have already been asked.

emöfine2: I got 2 quick questions.


1)If Muslim men are only permitted to marry up to 4 wives how comes the Prophet Muhammed (shall I say PBUH ) had more than 4 wives?


2)Is exorcism present in Islam?


I apologise if these questions have already been asked.

patriot2: if allah does exist then i strongly suggest he goes and f.uck a ship or mohamed (do I care), because we on earth don't give a f.uck about his filth. If any muslim feels after this that he must behead me then let him know I am in Paris: 18ème arrondissement.
Just wit for me at: arrêt métro clignancourt.
I will show you how to send the messanger of allah/mohamed the antichrist back to hell fire.
In case you are unaware allah=mohamed=antichrist=belzebut.

LagosShia:

actually,i feel great when people like you who call themselves "christians" and claim to follow Jesus (as),the prince of peace,make such statements and show their true colors.

you are no different from the atheist "logic mind" who uses vulgar words to pollute the forum.the only thing that makes you christian is that you're islamophobic.also,you are a coward and irresponsible to make such statements online hiding your name and face.

your words only make me feel happy that i am not like you and it strengthens my faith that i am surely on the right path,following the deen of Muhammad (sa) and his progeny from the Ahlul-Bayt(as).

now if you like,you can behead yourself and save humanity of more humiliation in identifying you as one of its own.

Logic Mind: here is the photo of my youngest wife. 9 yrs old.

do you think allah is happy the way i covered her up?

i think her eyes are too exposed.

allah the merciful please bear with your servant.

patriot2:
First of all I am an atheist who loves christianity and boudhism and african religions, actually I love all religions which do not preach violence. Islam is the most violent religion today and you think that islam does not deserve insults. Look everytime a terrorist kills someone I burn ten corans and throw the ashes into the toilet.
And for me being a coward: I gave the terrorists a place they could meet me. let them just send a message here telling me when they wish to kill me!
Or is it that you terrorists are afraid ?

patriot2:
you really don't know the bible.
First of all christians follow the example of Jesus, Jesus preached love and peace.
Now you are trying to bring things out of their context: the bible at the beginning talks about a wicked God and wicked people but God sends his son to earth (Jesus) who sacrifices himself so that God will stop being wicked to man.
So the preachings of Jesus are absolutely non violent.
On the other hand muslims follow muhamed who is a child molester, a mass killer and a hate preacher.
are you getting the point ?

patriot2:
Of course God can change and of course a demolition can be done with out violence or do you mean the son of God is less qualified than demolition workers to demolish a temple ?

patriot2:
Do you really understand the meaning of violence ?
Did Jesus kill anybody? did Jesus have sex with a nine year old ?
It is like to you muslims killing is not a big deal, you see it just like destroying a house or sending people out of a temple.
You people are sick!

patriot2: I am pretty sure the vendor would rather have his table overturned than his head cut off or his nine year old daughter r.aped. You can't possibly be comparing all the genocides done by mohamed with Jesus overturning a table,
use some logics!

tbaba1234: Again the Quran was revealed to an audience as an oral recitation: The topics it addresses are relevant to that environment... the prophet was asked question relevant to that environment, so his responses were those relevant to his environment.

His environment was made up of Jews, Christians and pagan Arabs.... The eloquence of the Quranic speech transcended what the arabs at the peak of their eloquence knew, That they called it magic: The Stories of the biblical prophet from an illiterate Arab was a sign for Jews and christians in the area. At a time when scriptures was largely available to only Half of the Rabbis in Medina became muslim as a result.

The Quran confirms what is true in the former scriptures: So whatever is true is maintained and the falsehood is absent. That is why there are significant differences in many of the stories. Speaking about former prophets in Africa for instance would serve no purpose because before islam would have got to Africa , some of the legends have died.

The lessons of the Quran are for all of Mankind.

The Quran's literary eloquence could not simply have come from a human... The more you know the more it humbles you

Logic Mind: here is the photo of my youngest wife. 9 yrs old.

do you think allah is happy the way i covered her up?

i think her eyes are too exposed.

allah the merciful please bear with your servant.

tiarabubu:

I didn't mean the prophets responses but the Holy Quran. They were not his response were they? I thought they were eternal revelations from God for mankind.



But Prophets Hud, salid, shuyb have VERY little information save what the Quran wrote about them! Their "legend have died" as you put it.

If the Quran is for mankind not Arabian pagans, then it would give us a couple more ( even abridged) of prophets. Of course Muslims would not dispute Quranic accounts would they?


on the literary eloquence of the Quran. Don't you think that its literary value is subjective? Could it be the Art deficit Arabs were impressed not because they were any better to critically appraise the poetic angle of the Quran but because they were under a leader who tolerated no critic ( other poets were murdered for criticism while another claimed to have inserted their words in the Quran).

How would you respond if I say - Have you considered the epic, Illad and Odessy, oral compositions made by a blind, illiterate man, Homer, considered the greatest epic poet of all time, and a great influence on the history of literature. Would you considered that if some bit of religiousity were added to the epic we would have high praise for its eloquence as you have.


Thank you.

Sweetnecta:

Tiarabubu needs to know that Allah says every community has been given a prophet: the prophet[s] of Indian communities, Chinese communities were not mentioned just like the African communities were not mentioned in Quran and I dont think you can show me any from your Bibles. The Quran even honor all of mankind by this while the Bibles only restrict all prophets to the children of Jacob/Israel as if mankind before Jacob [as] did not know about God and His Commandment that all worship in truth belong to Him? Muhammad [as] as a messenger is the only messenger for all mankind in one shot. Messengers were prophets as well, while prophets were not necessarily messengers.