Ologbo147:
They know we are not one, that ignorant above is telling me the history of OSA. OSA as a word has presence in Urhobo, Edo, Igbo, Esan etc it is very unlikely it was borrowed. Seeing the significance of the word that it is used to address God. Most likely it is a cognate word for YEAI group of languages to mean God. It has its variations from Olise to Olisa to OSA and so on.

If there is any word a tribe is going to borrow, it is most likely not the word for God. Not when its presence is spread across several groups that are said to be related.


Zo as a word as i have already stated above in Benin means to bring to bear or to bring to life.


There are several examples where zo was used both with Osa ,Oba Ehi, . Zo as a word-its usage is strongly knitted in Edo. There are several examples. e.g Ehiozuwa, Osazuwa, Obazuwa, Obazuaye, etc Benin was the empire, it is very likely this very title Obazuaye was borrowed by the Yorubas.


Benin language was a well known language in the palace and it is not an uncommon scenario. There are sprinkling evidences of Bini relics with groups she had contact with. Down from Ogiame- the Bini title of itsekiri monarch down to Agbor with several Bini list kings and so on

lexy2014:


then what is happening in this screenshot below or are you the one who needs to learn and grow?

Ologbo147:
go and check for the meaning yourself on Google, you google Obazuye or Obazuyi, if anything will come up, instead of you to be humble and learn from those better than you, you are projecting your ignorance everywhere

Bazuaye is a fancy way of pronouncing the correct one Obazuaye. O

OVB123:
What you now know as Bazuaye, was once pronounced Obazuaye. Ologbo is right on this one. There are from the popular EMEHI family of Benin kingdom and they from Oghoton village. The family comprises of 3 different families namelly, Bazuaye (Obazuaye), Oloton and Iyomahan.

Ologbo147:
there is nothing like Bazuaye

OVB123:
What you now know as Bazuaye, was once pronounced Obazuaye. Ologbo is right on this one. There are from the popular EMEHI family of Benin kingdom and they from Oghoton village. The family comprises of 3 different families namelly, Bazuaye (Obazuaye), Oloton and Iyomahan.

Ologbo147:
go and check for the meaning yourself on Google, you google Obazuye or Obazuyi, if anything will come up, instead of you to be humble and learn from those better than you, you are projecting your ignorance everywhere

Bazuaye is a fancy way of pronouncing the correct one Obazuaye. O

Stephen0mozzy:


Obasohan - The Oba is greater than Fear. kinnda like John Wick level of prestige


Bazuaye na old Benin word, e pass me.
Ize-Iyamu sounds like a hyphenation of two names.

scholes0:


How can his Obazuaye, Ize and Obasohan side which is maternal be more important than his Erha (Ogbebor)º side though?
If some Edo people call him a Yoruba person , they wouldn't be completely wrong.

On the meaning of certain Benin chieftaincies/aristocratic terms and titles i.e (Obazuaye, Ologbosere, Osodi, Esogban etc) being originally Yoruba etymologically, trust me, I know what I am talking about, but even if we argue til tomorrow, u no go gree, lol, but its okay. Let's just keep it at that.

scholes0:

Do you know there is a very popular linguistic theory that the Northern Edoid languages are actually the ones closer to proto Edo than Benin (Edo language) and not the other way round? They are actually the more conservative Edoid languages compared to Benin. Some Ora dialects like that of Ozalla are closer to Esan than Esan is to Benin.

Tochi360:
to se Nigeria na serious minded Country,by now all man for dey streets dey protest for the evil APC to be proscribed or banished
See what this bastard fifth columnist have done to the Nigerian system since 2015 na
But You will see a poverty striken nigga who can't afford 3 square meal saying Yes to same Apc that is programed to make him and his generation poorer .
The kind juju wey Apc use for una no from this World at all.

oyatz:



All these are not necessary sir.

Both Bini and Yoruba are related and spoke variants of the same Language in the distant past.

All Languages evolve and some dialects eventually transform into different languages if they remain isolated for too long or encounter and mix with other languages languages.

The emergence of the Oyo Empire (which encountered and mixed with many different peoples) made the Yoruba language to evolve into somewhat, different language from Edo and Southeast Yoruba dialects spoken between Ile-Ife to Ondo/Ekiti States

oyatz:


I also believe this too.

As Bini became an Empire, it got exposed to and incorporated elements of other dialects, from Yoruba in the West to Igbo in the East and European languages in the South.

oyatz:


Bazuaye (Bini) = Bajulaye/ Bajulaiye (Yor)

Oba= King
Aye/Aiye= Life/World.

OVB123:
What you now know as Bazuaye, was once pronounced Obazuaye. Ologbo is right on this one. There are from the popular EMEHI family of Benin kingdom and they from Oghoton village. The family comprises of 3 different families namelly, Bazuaye (Obazuaye), Oloton and Iyomahan.

Dsimmer:


Oba is a Yoruba word..

Oshiomole is an oriki of Ogun. Oshin mole which is "walks on ground". Esan is a Yoruba word which means "it's good". Owan means merry. Etsako means "we go away".

Stephen0mozzy:


Is this an attempt at translating the Benin Word "Bazuaye"? Or looking for a Yoruba word that rhymes?

Yoruba is not a Thesaurus for the Benin Language.

brightovio007:
Good

Ologbo147:
it is not that it was once pronounced as Obazuaye, it is still the pronunciation, it is like a fancy way of saying Obazuaye, saying it in a fancy way, you usually exclude the o

saddler:


How you didn't know that a word can have meanings in different languages baffles me.

So because you see a word in another language that has meaning in your language, you conclude they belong to your tribe.

OVB123:
You right. It is fancy way of calling Obazuaye. One thing we must know is that bini language is gradually going into extinction except something is done about it urgently. Names such Enomayo is now Nomayo, Osemwota now Asemota, Osaruese now Osawese etc.

lexy2014:


when was Bazuaye once pronounced Obazuaye?

when was it then changed from Obazuaye to Bazuaye?

who effected the change?

Dsimmer:


So What's the meaning of Oshinmole in Bini? That's a conc Yoruba word as a matter of fact. Or you don't know that Bini have Ogun as deity? Or the fact that the Oba of Bini is from the ancestry of Oranmiyan, the Yoruba king of Ife and Oyo?

Ologbo147:
don’t be a dense fool, Etsako language is different from Bini, and in Etsako language, the name means God’s property

Dsimmer:


So What's the meaning of Oshinmole in Bini? That's a conc Yoruba word as a matter of fact. Or you don't know that Bini have Ogun as deity? Or the fact that the Oba of Bini is from the ancestry of Oranmiyan, the Yoruba king of Ife and Oyo?

saddler:


Or that you didn't know the Oduduwa the father of Oranmiyan was an exiled Benin prince who came to ile ife and ruled those he met?

Or are you also aware that the word Yoruba was given by Fulani traders to Oyo people and it means "cunning ".

OVB123:
It is a fancy way of calling it. Name such as Osemwota is now being pronounce as Asemota, Enomayo as Nomayo, Osaruese as Osawese, Osarenoma as Osahenoma, Sokponba as Sakponba etc.

OVB123:
What you now know as Bazuaye, was once pronounced Obazuaye.

lexy2014:


that not what I asked you. you claimed that




when was Bazuaye once pronounced as Obazuaye?

when was it then changed from Obazuaye to Bazuaye?

who effected the change?

DOptical:


Lol.

You meant Ekladehan who already died in Ughoton? Lol.

Before Ekladehan existed, Oduduwa already existed several years and ruled before Ekladehan was born and died in Ughoton. You dey craze.

The Fulani were simply criminal trash who were always dealt with by the Yoruba to the extent that the criminal Dan fodio swore never to go back there anymore.

The raid that happened in Oyo was as a result of how some useless ungrateful criminal Fulani were accommodated in Ilorin by Af0nja who was having a fight with Oyo alafin at the time. The useless ungrateful Fulani ended up killing Af0nja in the end. After some time, these useless Fulani started raiding Ilorin and Oyo until the Ibadan dealt with them. In the end, it was Ilorin who dealt with the emir and sent the emir packing. The emir was a useless shameless man brought back as a shameless puppet by the British who stated the truth in their archive that the emir was already sent packing out of Ilorin by the Yoruba.