gammarays:

You should rather blame the people at the top for the u development.
When the head is spoilt, every other parts are affected

Who told you the older generation developed only churches?
Compare what we had then to what we have now

nairalanda1:


Well, that's why you won't see development.

The sad thing is things cost money. At the end all developed countries, religion or no, are propelled by the free market


Stop blaming religion or the lack thereof by the way


By the way, a production subsidy is paid to a company to reduce production cost. We don't do that here. We force the power and petrol sector to sell at a loss and then a subsidy is paid to cover the loss without taking into account the rising production costs and by extension cost of subsidies

A production subsidy would have involved government giving cash or grants to a working refinery or power station. Doesn't happen here.


And by the way it is the colonial generation that you hate that are responsible for subsides. Infact they even subsidized more than we do today. They stopped because it worsened our debt. And because we ran out of money.

babasolution:


It cost money but they have 12billion dollars to be spent on the power sector in Obasanjo tenure which was stolen.

There no money but they spend billions for rice palliative

There's no money but they spend lavishly buying cars for legislators.

Abeg bros una dey deceive una self's

babasolution:


It cost money but they have 12billion dollars to be spent on the power sector in Obasanjo tenure which was stolen.

There no money but they spend billions for rice palliative

There's no money but they spend lavishly buying cars for legislators.

Abeg bros una dey deceive una self's

babasolution:


You lack comprehension

nairalanda1:



Well the above comment is a comment I respectfully disagree with

The USSR was an atheist society which collapsed in 1991, while the USA has had too much religion,and yet it is strong.

The simple reason why the USA has outlasted the USSR is simple. Free markets . Things are sold at a profit in the USA meaning there is more than enough money for innovations.

Here in Nigeria we try to live as if we are the USSR.

For examples we sell electricity power at a loss in the name of helping the poor or providing equity or something like the USSR did. That's nice but at the end the power companies cannot make a profit and thus cannot fund things like

1. Power for industrial development and production

2. Money for local inventions and innovations that would improve our power supply

Unlike the USA where you have power companies that make a profit and use it to buy from local electronic companies which funds their growth

That's how Edison and Alex Bell founded companies that revolutionized the USA.

Here in Nigeria , at independence, we had two choices. Run a free market and industrialization project which means like south Korea and china a lot of suffering for a generation or two before benefits come in, or run welfarist projects at subsidise rate, with a lot of loan taking when local revenues are poor. Because at independence we had a large poor population and a tiny rich population. We chose the welfare route


And that has led to massive loans and debts and corruption. Like the old USSR.it tends to happen with money sharing for equity economies. And it breeds poverty and economic ruin and leads to people falling vicitim to get rich quick schekmes of the secular (MMM) and religious variety

( And if not for religion a lot of us won't have gotten educated or even had the tools we have for industrial development. Even in atheist countries)

The best way for Nigeria to run well is to allow the free market do it's thing. And also enforce tax collection. Alongside accountability and freedom form corrupt rule.That way we would eventually have a society that we can be proud of.

Blaming religion is just lazy really.

ShoeGetSize:
You lack functioning brain cells. That's the only explanation for why you wrote garbage and insist on defending it. Maybe I shouldn't be upset with you because garbage is in your dna. Garbage in, Garbage out.

babasolution:


What we had then was developed by the founding fathers GENERATION, the colonial GENERATION ruined Every thing.

Note: things gradually and progessively get destroyed not at once, they gradually ruined everything except religion

Kukutente23:

I always find it ridiculous that a political urchin will be pontificating and sermonizing to religious people
Do they think they are better than them?

saddler:


The best schools never started with religion. Put things into proper context.
That those who brought formal education to Nigeria also had religion as a tool of control.

The laws of physics, biology, mathematics etc are not found in the Koran or Bible.

saddler:


Nonsense as expected from a religious zombie.

JagabanB:

Lol.
U are a political urchin?
That's a pàthètic life for u right there, this is why I use all my platforms to advice younger generation to add value to their lives as much as possible.

Kukutente23:


You should have taken your own advice before you became JagabanB

JagabanB:

My moniker, my choice.
Whatever u do with ur Iife, ur choice.

Topman7:


Materialist dunce with no brain.

I wonder how stupid you will feel when you pass away and realise you are still alive in another state.

Stupid Air head.

JagabanB:

The laws of physics, biology and mathematics didn't start in Nigeria, the topic here is specifically on Nigeria, learn to stick with the topic.

babasolution:
Actually my post isn't about the church but about the colonial GENERATION who destroyed Nigeria.

There's a common denominator about them
All they know and understand is religion.

For the Christians their ultimate focus is church church ,Bible ,God etc.

The Muslims is the same.

They are the generation that killed all thriving industries and created the current booming religion industry in NIG.


That has been their legacy has they bow out,
Religion.

They have built nothing
They have left nothing

Younger generation are building Nigeria from the ground up.

The only thing the colonial GENERATION have built successfully in Nigeria is the religious industry with thriving booming churches worldwide and Islamist fundamentalism.

No technology, no innovation, no economic progress, no infrastructure, no political advancement, no industries,only few businesses,no rule of law,no educational advancements etc .

only
Religion, only religion

saddler:
Some big truth in this.

How do you tell a people not to work hard, learn and develop their country?

How do you tell them not to be patriotic?

Just tell them there is a better place called heaven in the skies waiting for them when they die.

That their country is not their home. That they should strive day and night in order to be eligible to enter this heaven instead of working hard to develop their country.


That's all it takes

babasolution:
Actually my post isn't about the church but about the colonial GENERATION who destroyed Nigeria.

There's a common denominator about them
All they know and understand is religion.

For the Christians their ultimate focus is church church ,Bible ,God etc.

The Muslims is the same.

They are the generation that killed all thriving industries and created the current booming religion industry in NIG.


That has been their legacy has they bow out,
Religion.

They have built nothing
They have left nothing

Younger generation are building Nigeria from the ground up.

The only thing the colonial GENERATION have built successfully in Nigeria is the religious industry with thriving booming churches worldwide and Islamist fundamentalism.

No technology, no innovation, no economic progress, no infrastructure, no political advancement, no industries,only few businesses,no rule of law,no educational advancements etc .

only
Religion, only religion

Topman7:


Materialist dunce with no brain.

I wonder how stupid you will feel when you pass away and realise you are still alive in another state.

Stupid Air head.

nairalanda1:
.

Well, if subsides work, they would have let our power sector and refineries work, won't they.

Obvoiusly they are not working.

Also, subsides fuel corruption...because they involve something called free money.




They do production subsides, not price controls, and pay subsidy to cover the resulting loss (which we do here, and said subsidy does not cover the losses resultant).






Yes, because when you run an government whose sources of revenue are from what raw material we sell, and with a mandate to 'share the revenue' corruption naturally results. Because he or she who is closer to the sharing will benefit more than end user.

Whereas if most of our income was from taxes...people would be incentivsed to keep an eye on how their money is spent, and the government won't do wuru wuru...because any stepping out of line, and kasala go burst for their head.

Allowing a free market provides the disposable income for things like taxes to be paid.




Well, some churchpeople do so, some do not. Don't tar everyone with the same brush.

babasolution:


90bn for hajj subsidies, but they should tax and tax and tax,they have 90bn for hajj but not for electricity

nairalanda1:


Well

1.Government does subsidise electricity. It's not something I support(because in return discos cannot charge above the cost of production and make a profit, meaning the mess in the sector results), but they do subsidise electricity.

2.People should pay for their hajj or christian pilgrimage, not govenrment. Government hajj subsides have and always have been a waste of money.

babasolution:


But you'll say there's no money for development, that's goes my point that the colonial GENERATION due to their over religious disposition have misplaced priorities choosing to develop religions over other more important sectors.

Where did they get the money from,if there's no money? Even if they borrowed why will they borrow to fund religion? The colonial GENERATION are ruining Nigeria

saddler:


Next time sit your brain down and understand the comment i was responding to.

He was trying to say religion brought education.

Kukutente23:

Hmmmm. Hypocrite. It has come down to choices now

JagabanB:

Life is always a choice, only headIess mób never understand that.

nairalanda1:


1. Well, development comes from letting the free market do it's thing and also promoting the industrial development and the export of manufactured goods and services

2. Your leaders chose excessive subsides and welfarist policies which you like because at the end we have a large poor population that needed uplifting

3. It worked but it also did not work. As a result we have a heavily indebted economy

4. And yes stealing is happening because most of our money does not come from tax. If it came from tax, people would be incentivise to hold their government accountable. Instead it comes from resources and as such no incentive

5. There really isn't enough money. We should be earning 300 billion or more dollars per annum. Not the measly 50 billion we earn . And the stealing that happens makes it worse.


Oga, you really should read comments instead of making assumptions

babasolution:


It all boils down to the old colonial GENERATION and their stupid ways

JagabanB:
The best schools in Nigeria started with religion, the probIem here are the people practicing the reIigion not the reIigion.
From the pastors who see the members as their easy to make cool cash to the members who are so f00Iish to believe that u prosper by giving whatever u have to the pastor.
Nigeriàñs need education to illuminate their minds in general.

wirinet:


The best schools started by missionaries and colonialists were to teach us to be better Christians and subjects and not to teach us to be better scientists, technologists or better critical thinkers.

nairalanda1:


Nope, boils down to people like you and most nigerians preferring socialism, to industrialization and the free market.