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"The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 8:57am On Apr 14
Before I delve deeper let me drop some vital keywords. I might change them or add more later:

1: 'Expo'

2: Holy Spirit vs ECK

3: Jesus Christ

4: "Life no Balance"

5: Karma and Reincarnation
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 9:04am On Apr 14
"Expo"

This is a helpless condition where people find themselves in exam halls where they can't write anything without 'lifting' answers from the person sitted to the left, right and behind.

It also is the same where they have to copy from a jotted note hidden in unholy places.

Key notes:

-Lack of inspiration from within.

- Tendency to copy right wrong, incomplete information etc.
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 9:06am On Apr 14
Given the above, we can christen it the "Expo Problem".
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 9:38am On Apr 14
Holy Spirit Vs ECK

Eckankar's word for what the English man terms "Holy Spirit" is "ECK". Which forms part of the name of that science.

It's etymology denotes 'ONEness' or 'Singularity' (of the all-pervading creative force.)

I have seen it being called "Holy Ghost"...as that term becomes more and more questionable to me.
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 9:50am On Apr 14
"The problem"

Church people believe they can't involve with the Holy Spirit beyond what Paul and Peter wrote, experienced or purportedly wrote and experienced.

This gave rise to a cultivated trend of having to rely on the experiences right or wrong of these folks so much that anything more is null and void or "demonic".

If Paul didn't say to contact the Holy Spirit this way or that way, then it remains null and void, heretic or pagan.

The problem the science of Eckankar and similar sciences have in society today then is that of removing the imaginary enclosures and limits placed around matters of the Holy Spirit by the cunning agents of the School Master of this world.
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 9:58am On Apr 14
Jesus Christ


Jesus Christ had specific missions. Foremost is helping humanity in scaling the spiritual hurdle of their time and even today. This involves giving them specific spiritual exercises to perform as he learnt in the mystery schools existing in his time.

These exercises involved the chanting of spiritually charged words, the Holy names for God, etc which if the same people who claim to be his followers today are presented same, they would likely kill him again via thoughts, words or in action. This is already happening by the way...

It is a fact that even if he himself should come back again as he was, he is likely going to be stoned by Christians for being an imposter because he looked nothing like the image of him in circulation.
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 10:01am On Apr 14
chieveboy:
Jesus Christ


Jesus Christ had specific missions. Foremost is helping humanity in scaling the spiritual hurdle of their time and even today. This involves giving them specific spiritual exercises to perform as he learnt in the mystery schools existing in his time.

These exercises involved the chanting of spiritually charged words, the Holy names for God, etc which if the same people who claim to be his followers today are presented same, they would likely kill again via thoughts, words or in action. This is already happening by the way.

It is a fact that even if he himself should come back again as he was, he is likely going to be stoned by Christians for being an imposter because he looked nothing like the image of him in circulation.

The second stoning of Christ via ignorance of the practices which gave him the spiritual leverage to accomplish part of his mission is "the problem of Eckankar" today.

ECK: Holy Spirit
ANKAR: The way
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 10:06am On Apr 14
The event of the crucification of Christ was brought about by a condition brought about by losing touch with the Holy Spirit.

A black magician at the time 'animated' the people against Christ and his disciples via a means still practiced today by voodoo practitioners.

This method is employed by presidents and their agents to keep the people "receptive" and docile even in Nigeria. This is another subject.

Had the people be active in chanting spiritually charged words and Holy Names for God constantly, they would have been immune to this form of black magic and many more.

Next: "Life No Balance.
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 10:35am On Apr 14
" Life No Balance"

After observing water and how it always finds its balance, we know then that life is always balance and everyone gets to lay on his own bed as he lays it.

"Life no balance" statement is brought about by how the subject of karma and reincarnation is somehow missing in the books people rely on for truth.
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 11:03am On Apr 14
"where the spirit is, there is liberty "

This biblical scripture is a statement of the omnipresence and unlimitability of the Holy Spirit under any guise.

This is what Jesus spoke about asking the rich man to become as a little baby first before he can enter the Soul Plane via the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit life is not a scriptural life. No head full of scripture, dogma and ascetisim brings you near.
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by elated177: 3:17pm On Apr 14
Chieveboy, you stated: "The Holy Spirit life is not a scriptural."

If the scriptural life is not the " Holy Spirit life", what then is? Do you even understand the scriptural meaning of the Holy Spirit/Spirit of truth? What is the Holy Spirit life? What is the scriptural life?
Re: "The Problem" With Eckankar (an Eckist Observes) by chieveboy(m): 3:40pm On Apr 14
elated177:
Chieveboy, you stated: "The Holy Spirit life is not a scriptural."

If the scriptural life is not the " Holy Spirit life", what then is? Do you even understand the scriptural meaning of the Holy Spirit/Spirit of truth? What is the Holy Spirit life? What is the scriptural life?

The scripturification of things really made what should have been natural and effortless seem like it depends on any person , ritual, organization or religion.

It comes from the mentality I was trying to speak about earlier. It is after one looks beyond their religious nose that they see that indeed things are really not what they have been brought up to believe.

The cave man, the cows, the dogs, a brute and an angel all work with the Holy Spirit in their own respective ways.

It never and can never be a religious much less a scriptural thing.

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