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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by Aemmyjah(m): 8:02pm On May 01 |
Ohyoudidnt: You said it's trigonometric calculation Now you said it's not far from the sun rise What has sun rise got to do with a literal place and it's position? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by Ohyoudidnt: 9:46pm On May 01 |
Aemmyjah: I see all your particulars about science are a ruse. You know absolutely nothing! When faced with a problem is there only one mathematical method to find the same solution? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by Ohyoudidnt: 9:48pm On May 01 |
Aemmyjah: I see all your particulars about science are a ruse. You know absolutely nothing! When faced with a problem is there only one mathematical method to find the same solution? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 7:28am On May 02 |
SIRTee15: Do you understand simply English? What does it mean that scholars contend a matter? It simply means it is not 100% factual. Stop presenting what scholars contend as being factual! That's dishonesty and insincerity! Your attachment said scholars contend this matter! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 7:40am On May 02 |
MaxInDHouse: Wallah, Islam is the rightful way of life. Allah did send Prophets to all nations but we don't know who was sent to the African nations. Even if we know him, it won't be for our dispensation. Prophets are sent to their people or nations before Muhammad. Jesus was sent to Israel as he claimed! His Israel dispensation does not extend to Nigeria or Africa! And I don't know why you're being racist with your statement about Muhammad and Saudi Arabia. Israel sure had many great Prophets and the last of them were Zechariah, John and Jesus. We do believe in all of them as Prophets of Allah! Allah sends whoever He wills to wherever He wills to cover the dispensation He wants! And we worship Allah according to the way He prescribes. |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:51am On May 02 |
AbuTwins:So it's a lie if you don't know the prophet sent to Africa, Europe, America and Australia. Stop deceiving yourself the only nation God dealt with directly is Israel that's why you don't know the name of any other prophet from another nation. As for Muhammad he is a patch patch prophet God never sent any prophet to Saudi Arabia! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 9:24am On May 02 |
MaxInDHouse: Why do i need to know every Prophets when they are not sent to my nation? That's your own Jehovah that restricts himself to Israel! Muhammad is from the lineage of Abraham whether JW like it or not! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:33am On May 02 |
AbuTwins:You see the lies they used in brainwashing you? They told you God can choose prophets from any nation to make you think less of Israelites then they introduced their own guy to you as a prophet sent by the same God and trashing all the things those prophets stands for only to turn you into their puppet speaking their language when praying, calling their guy's name and bowing towards their black stone in Mecca. Ọmọ the true God only had a covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so all others should follow that arrangement not that someone will come and tell me that since Abraham has many sons then all his children must produce prophets. There were eight sons born to that man when God chose only Isaac as the child to continue with the covenant and there were two sons born to Isaac before God chose only Jacob to continue with the covenant that's why you can't hear of any prophet from the remaining children of Abraham apart from the children of Jacob who is called ISRAEL! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 10:02am On May 02 |
MaxInDHouse:Na your Governing Body brainwashed you o! They told you God can choose prophets from any nation to make you think less of Israelites then they introduced their own guy to you as a prophet sent by the same God and trashing all the things those prophets stands for only to turn you into their puppet speaking their language when praying, calling their guy's name and bowing towards their black stone in Mecca.You are an elder and please don't think like a kid! No Muslim think less of any Prophet, this you know well. You don't believe in the last Prophet but we do believe in them all! We have no business with Israelites. Those who believed in God among them will get their reward from God! And yes we speak Arabic that's why the Qur'an and Hadith are still preserved till today unlike the Bible. JW had to create their own Bible! Assuming you guys could learn Greek and Hebrew which Jesus didn't speak and your scriptures was written in! Make it make sense! Ọmọ the true God only had a covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so all others should follow that arrangement not that someone will come and tell me that since Abraham has many sons then all his children must produce prophets. God had a covenant with Abraham. Abraham had Ishmael as his first son. He and Ishmael built the foundation of the Kaaba! You can't hear of any Prophet or the Jews wrote whatever they wished to write! Na so that JW elder won fight me like this when i told him i be Muslim! He said na Abraham caused all this trouble! He couldn't blame Jehovah for approving the fertilization of Ishmael! He for beat Abraham if he sees him! Na that kind vex dey your body too! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by Aemmyjah(m): 11:01am On May 02 |
AbuTwins: Why would any sane christian settle for less inferior ethics taught by Muhammad? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 12:57pm On May 02 |
Aemmyjah: You mean the ethics of calling people snakes and Satan? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:14pm On May 02 |
AbuTwins: You're just eager to respond no sense in what you're saying! If God chose Ishmael then how many children of Ishmael are prophets of God whose names are found in your Quran? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 4:19pm On May 02 |
MaxInDHouse: Of course na you own get sense! Proverb 26:5 says Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he become wise in his own eyes! Allah has so much perfected his plan to make Muhammad salallahu alayhi wa salam be the last Prophet from Ishmael the first son of Abraham! No children of Ismael are found in the Qur'an since none of them were Prophet till Muhammad! Allah chose Muhammad from Ishmael's lineage! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by Aemmyjah(m): 4:23pm On May 02 |
AbuTwins:It was figurative What about ethics of violence, beheading and child marriage |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 4:32pm On May 02 |
Aemmyjah: Plenty in your Bible, make i open am? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:48pm On May 02 |
AbuTwins: That's the lie! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 4:49pm On May 02 |
MaxInDHouse: Where's your truth? Do you mean all Children of Abraham must produce offspring or that only one of them should always continue the Prophethood line? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:55pm On May 02 |
AbuTwins: First of all what is the essence of prophets? What should a prophetic message accomplish? If you know then we can talk about who is and who is not a true prophet! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 5:12pm On May 02 |
MaxInDHouse:Divine Guidance, Role models, Bearer of Glad Tidings and Warnings, Intermediaries with God, mission of unity and Justice, etc. What should a prophetic message accomplish? Guidance, Call to Worship, Establish Justice, Warn of Consequences, Community Building, Revival of Spiritual Values, Spread of Divine Message, Reformation and Guidance, etc. If you know then we can talk about who is and who is not a true prophet! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:37pm On May 02 |
AbuTwins: With the above muhammad failed woefully! There is no unity and justice among Muslims that's why there is WARS between Muslim nations so Muhammad is not a prophet! Let's talk about the Israelite prophets. They had those who are faithful and obedient so there's no dispute among those following what the prophets of God says. Jesus of Nazareth established Christianity by his teachings and warned that Satan will mislead many yet they will be claiming Christians (followers of Christ) so how are we going to IDENTIFY those following Christ? They will be united, there will be no division among them, worldly politics can't divide them and they will be known globally as messengers of Godly peace. Do you have something of that nature in your Islam today? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by honesttalk21: 7:22pm On May 02 |
MaxInDHouse: Successes of Prophet Muhammad as a Prophet: Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, achieved remarkable successes as a prophet that transformed the society and culture of his time. Before his Prophethood, the Arabian Peninsula was engulfed in darkness, characterized by ignorance, superstition, lawlessness, and moral degradation. However, through his teachings and actions, Prophet Muhammad brought about significant positive changes that continue to impact millions of lives to this day. Cultural and Civilizational Transformation: Prophet Muhammad’s teachings revolutionized the cultural and civilizational landscape of Arabia. He introduced principles of morality, ethics, cleanliness, and social conduct that elevated the standards of society. His emphasis on knowledge, learning, and intellectual growth laid the foundation for a more enlightened community. Social Reforms: The Prophet implemented various social reforms that addressed prevalent injustices and inequalities in Arabian society. He advocated for the rights of women, children, slaves, and marginalized groups, promoting compassion, justice, and equality among all individuals regardless of their background. Unity and Brotherhood: One of the most significant achievements of Prophet Muhammad was fostering unity and brotherhood among diverse tribal communities in Arabia. He united people from different backgrounds under the banner of Islam, emphasizing the importance of solidarity, cooperation, and mutual respect among believers. Establishment of a Just Society: Through his leadership and guidance, Prophet Muhammad established a just social order based on Islamic principles such as charity (Zakat), honesty, integrity, and compassion. His governance exemplified fairness and equity for all members of society. Spiritual Enlightenment: Prophet Muhammad’s message brought spiritual enlightenment to countless individuals who embraced Islam. His teachings on monotheism (Tawhid), prayer (Salah), fasting (Sawm), pilgrimage (Hajj), and faith inspired profound spiritual growth and connection to God among his followers. Global Impact: The influence of Prophet Muhammad extended far beyond Arabia during his lifetime and continues to resonate globally today. His message has shaped diverse cultures, civilizations, legal systems, art forms, literature, architecture, and ethical frameworks across continents. Legacy of Compassion: Above all else, Prophet Muhammad’s legacy as a prophet is characterized by compassion, mercy, forgiveness, and love for humanity. His example serves as a beacon of light for individuals seeking guidance in navigating life’s challenges with grace and dignity.
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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 7:22pm On May 02 |
AbuTwins: I will not allow u hide behind one finger, I will slap U with more evidence. U this TRUTH DENIAL Scholar contending is an assertion to the evidence they bring to validate their findings. U this educated illiterate. I doubt U wrote any thesis on your life ...reason why U confused by the word contend.
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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by Aemmyjah(m): 7:58pm On May 02 |
AbuTwins: Open na Muhammad slept with a 9 year old girl and claimed to be a prophet Imagine |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 8:22pm On May 02 |
AbuTwins: ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE OF Awareness OF YAWHEH PRIOR TO ISRAEL BECOMING A NATION. THIS IS HISTORICAL FACT NOT ASSUMPTION THE SHAWU OF YHWU So if Egyptian knew of YHWH, what stops how prophet Muhammed from knowing the name YHWH. Why didn't he know the name YHWH?
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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43pm On May 02 |
honesttalk21: How can there be peace with a teacher whose students are always fighting and killing one another? If his message and teaching failed to make peace work among his followers do you think he is a true prophet? Each time you people say PEACE (SALAM) it's really funny when there is no peace among you. Politics and Racism easily split your people like Cracker biscuit the only thing that you're doing together is bowing towards the black stone in Mecca apart from that you people have nothing specific that unite you as PEACEFUL FAMILY yet you keep saying peace be onto the man who taught you people such a fruitless thing. To any sane person that's the height of deception it's better to worship the stone in my town (Olúmọ rock) since there's nothing special! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 10:20am On May 03 |
SIRTee15: Your attachment states that Yhw is the name of a place! Shasu is a nomadic tribe! Shasu of Yhw! So what does that mean? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 10:42am On May 03 |
Aemmyjah: Jehovah got 32 kids slaves virgins in Numbers 31:40 with war booties after committing genocide! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 11:02am On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse:You are always thinking south! Muhammad has related the message and his companions admitted he completed the message to them before he died! His country of Saudi Arabia still remains largely a Muslim country today! Which country exists as a Christian country today? There is no unity and justice among Muslims that's why there is WARS between Muslim nations so Muhammad is not a prophet!Muslim nations can fight for politics, to defend their sovereignty and many other reasons which may or may not be related to Islam. How is this Muhammad's fault? Is Israel's fight related to Jesus? Abi which kind IQ be this? Muhammad has completed his message! Let's talk about the Israelite prophets. This is a lie! Jesus died a Jew! He never established anything called Christianity! Till the end he was worshipping his God by putting his face on the floor in prayer! They will be united, there will be no division among them, worldly politics can't divide them and they will be known globally as messengers of Godly peace.So na JW start this about 100 years ago leaving people to have been perishing for about 1900 years? What sort of Jehovah is that? You started your own cult, created your own translation of the Bible, HQ in US with the Governing body giving you rules as God gave Moses rules! Do you have something of that nature in your Islam today? Of course we don't have a cult like JW! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:27pm On May 03 |
AbuTwins: Funny Muhammeddan! How come Muhammad claimed he is God's prophet to start another religion after almost 600 years that Jesus the last prophet left? So far your muhammed can't meet up with that criteria then all other people claiming prophets like T.O Obadare, T.B Joshua, Odumeje and the rest are also prophets of the same God. Do you agree? |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by Aemmyjah(m): 12:53pm On May 03 |
AbuTwins: King James Version Numbers 31:40 And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD’S tribute was thirty and two persons. You are an illiterate You think Bible is like Koran Where is kid virgins Same you lied that Rebekah was 3 year old Your flawed thinking did not help you see that a 3 year old cannot fetch water for 10 thirsty camels (1000 litres)
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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 1:00pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse:I am a Muslim practising Islam. That's what is clear in the Qur'an! We know the word "Christian" was created by non-christians for you in Antioch and Christianity doesn't exist as a word in the Bible. Even Bible no dey inside Bible. So must you name us as you are named mockingly by non-believers? How come Muhammad claimed he is God's prophet to start another religion after almost 600 years that Jesus the last prophet left?Another lie! Where did Muhammad claim he started another religion? Which religion did Abraham and Noah partake in? Which religion did Jesus partake in? So far your Muhammed can't meet up with that criteria then all other people claiming prophets like T.O Obadare, T.B Joshua, Odumeje and the rest are also prophets of the same God.You are spilling nonsense! I can't even compare Jesus to all those you are comparing to our Prophet! T,B Joshua and co called themselves Christians! They are like the dead Charles Taze Russell who founded your cult JW whereby the Governing bodies dictate the laws for you to follow like zombies! You must follow sheepishly whenever the law is reviewed else you may be excommunicated! Muhammad is the Prophet of Allah with a revealed Book preserved now for about 1400 years now! The country of Saudi Arabia still stand till today! And about 2 billion follow the religion of Islam. Abeg no dey do nonsense comparison jawe! |
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 1:01pm On May 03 |
Aemmyjah: The capture 32 virgins the Lord's tribute! Same you lied that Rebekah was 3 year old Where did i lie? Please show it? |
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