Ohyoudidnt:

The verses you shared didn't explicitly say sickness or is sickness now synonymous with condemned?

Before God condemned Adam and Eve was there a reason for them or their children to fall sick?
Perhaps your Allah just chose to test people with bad bad things shey?
Well sicknesses came along with condemnation that's why God promised He will hear the prayers of those who make it to Paradise under Christ's reign! Jeremiah 31:34

So suffering, sicknesses and death came along with the condemnation at Genesis 3:17-19

Simple evidence of a verse clearly stating sickness will spare you all this adventure to prove what isn't.

In any case it's your conviction.

MaxInDHouse:


When Jesus returns to take over authority from all human rulers he will destroy them and establish his own righteous rule forever! Daniel 2:44

His disciples were confused when he didn't do that after his resurrection {Act 1:6} he made it clear to them that the warning must go round the earth for mankind in general to humbly accept his counsel and surely individuals from all over the earth will come out from their own race and become his disciples {Act 1:8} it's after this that Jesus will return to exterminate all those who refuse to accept his authority as preached and taught by his disciples! Luke 19:27

Do you get it now?
So don't think because Jesus never started ruling back then it wasn't him that Isaiah was referring to, everything must follow due process in a logical sense!

There's nothing to get. Clearly in the observed records when Jesus existed government didn't rest on his shoulder.

Ohyoudidnt:

There's nothing to get. Clearly in the observed records when Jesus existed government didn't rest on his shoulder.

OK you believe some part of what he said that suits your religion but ignored those that expose your religion shey?
Continue!

Ohyoudidnt:

Simple evidence of a verse clearly stating sickness will spare you all this adventure to prove what isn't.
In any case it's your conviction.

No matter the verse quoted i know people who are deeply rooted in the religion of their parents like you all you're doing is supporting your parents religion.
I quote you argue, i gave you logical reasoning you turn back to quote.
Which means you're just deceiving yourself.

Can you prove your own religion with logical reasoning?
NO!
It's whatever your Arabian Allah say whether it's reasonable or not!

MaxInDHouse:


No matter the verse quoted i know people who are deeply rooted in the religion of their parents like you all you're doing is supporting your parents religion.
I quote you argue, i gave you logical reasoning you turn back to quote.
Which means you're just deceiving yourself.

Can you prove your own religion with logical reasoning?
NO!
It's whatever your Arabian Allah say whether it's reasonable or not!

Does the verse or do the verses you quote exactly say sickness is a result of the sin/fall of Adam?

Or can you show where condemnation is equal to or composed of sickness?

MaxInDHouse:


OK you believe some part of what he said that suits your religion but ignored those that expose your religion shey?
Continue!

Are you for real? Show the absolute truth and nothing else

Ohyoudidnt:

Does the verse or do the verses you quote exactly say sickness is a result of the sin/fall of Adam?
Or can you show where condemnation is equal to or composed of sickness?

Truth should be put side by side with falsehood that's the only way you can distinguish otherwise you will continue to lie deceiving yourself.

When God created Adam and Eve they were given a home and they lack nothing from that we can sense what God has in mind for the couple. Today mankind (their descendants) are plagued with sicknesses, suffering, and death so what happened?

Your Quran said they were driven down due to some reasons and ever since then mankind has been facing one problem or another and all these problems will end when mankind return to Aljana.

So between your religion that says the evil things affecting mankind is test from your God and the Christianity that says its consequences of disobedience of the first human pair which one makes sense to you?

Ohyoudidnt:

Are you for real? Show the absolute truth and nothing else

Government WILL rest on his shoulder is a prophecy that's yet unfulfilled but we can see it coming gradually as his true followers are gathering obedient people throughout the world to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Today JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have successfully gathered millions of peace lovers globally in preparation for the new government that Christ Jesus will soon start.
In fact some honest hearted individuals are saying it that if only Jehovah's Witnesses are on this planet life on earth will be a haven.

So it's you who can't see how Jesus is gradually achieving what God said about him because he said he will be with his true followers until the end of badness! Matthew 28:20

Therefore if you can see a global family making peace reign among them yet you're sticking to a religion that can't work out peace with all their book, act of worship and claims it's left to you!

MaxInDHouse:


Government WILL rest on his shoulder is a prophecy that's yet unfulfilled but we can see it coming gradually as his true followers are gathering obedient people throughout the world to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Today JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have successfully gathered millions of peace lovers globally in preparation for the new government that Christ Jesus will soon start.
In fact some honest hearted individuals are saying it that if only Jehovah's Witnesses are on this planet life on earth will be a haven.

So it's you who can't see how Jesus is gradually achieving what God said about him because he said he will be with his true followers until the end of badness! Matthew 28:20

Therefore if you can see a global family making peace reign among them yet you're sticking to a religion that can't work out peace with all their book, act of worship and claims it's left to you!

Why doesn't the alleged prophesy not say he will come then depart then come again before government will be placed upon his shoulder?

MaxInDHouse:


Truth should be put side by side with falsehood that's the only way you can distinguish otherwise you will continue to lie deceiving yourself.

When God created Adam and Eve they were given a home and they lack nothing from that we can sense what God has in mind for the couple. Today mankind (their descendants) are plagued with sicknesses, suffering, and death so what happened?

Your Quran said they were driven down due to some reasons and ever since then mankind has been facing one problem or another and all these problems will end when mankind return to Aljana.

So between your religion that says the evil things affecting mankind is test from your God and the Christianity that says its consequences of disobedience of the first human pair which one makes sense to you?

Let it make simple sense. Point at a prophet excluding Elisha who died as a result of sickness.

Sickness sometimes leads to death but not all dearh is caused by illness. This also excludes accidents, murder and euthanasia

Ohyoudidnt:

Why doesn't the alleged prophesy not say he will come then depart then come again before government will be placed upon his shoulder?

If you want to know the first thing to do is read with keen interest not biased mindset.

The Bible foretold that the Messiah will rule forever {Isaiah 9:6-7} but the Messiah will have to come back to complete the job because he will be killed!Daniel 9:26
WHY? Because his disciples must preach and teach globally to gather obedient mankind for him to start his rulership after destroying all rebellious people! Daniel 2:44 compare to Luke 19:27
So the whole assignment won't take place at the same time!

Ohyoudidnt:

Let it make simple sense. Point at a prophet excluding Elisha who died as a result of sickness. Sickness sometimes leads to death but not all dearh is caused by illness. This also excludes accidents, murder and euthanasia

Guy nobody grow old without getting sick as they will become weaker and weaker until they are not able to walk as they do so it's sickness called "OLDAGE" that leads to DEATH!

MaxInDHouse:

If you want to know the first thing to do is read with keen interest not biased mindset.

The Bible foretold that the Messiah will rule forever {Isaiah 9:6-7} but the Messiah will have to come back to complete the job because he will be killed!Daniel 9:26
WHY? Because his disciples must preach and teach globally to gather obedient mankind for him to start his rulership after destroying all rebellious people! Daniel 2:44 compare to Luke 19:27
So the whole assignment won't take place at the same time!

Guy nobody grow old without getting sick as they will become weaker and weaker until they are not able to walk as they do so it's sickness called "OLDAGE" that leads to DEATH!

I live you to research and understand reasons why Jesus doesn’t fit the writings of Daniel 9.

Perhaps your Bible should have said clearly that old age brings sickness that ends with death.

Adam lived to over 900years please tell what ailment caused his death?

Is your submission not questionable when non old people die from sickness as it seems you make a rule about old age, sickness and death.

Ohyoudidnt:


I live you to research and understand reasons why Jesus doesn’t fit the writings of Daniel 9.

Perhaps your Bible should have said clearly that old age brings sickness that ends with death.

Adam lived to over 900years please tell what ailment caused his death?

Is your submission not questionable when non old people die from sickness as it seems you make a rule about old age, sickness and death.

The promises regarding salvation was through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so there's no other Messiah apart from Jesus

Ohyoudidnt:


I live you to research and understand reasons why Jesus doesn’t fit the writings of Daniel 9.

Perhaps your Bible should have said clearly that old age brings sickness that ends with death.

Adam lived to over 900years please tell what ailment caused his death?

Is your submission not questionable when non old people die from sickness as it seems you make a rule about old age, sickness and death.

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
That's the lineage to produce the Messiah!
As for Adam who died at the age of 930 years i hope you can imagine how ugly and sickly he will be at such an age!

MaxInDHouse:


Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
That's the lineage to produce the Messiah!
As for Adam who died at the age of 930 years i hope you can imagine how ugly and sickly he will be at such an age!

You answer your own question and not what I exactly asked.

What's the Hebrew word for Messiah and how many times does it occur in the Bible?

Ohyoudidnt:

You answer your own question and not what I exactly asked.
What's the Hebrew word for Messiah and how many times does it occur in the Bible?

What's the Hebrew word for God and how many times does it occur in the Bible?

Guy the word is not what matters but the promises made regarding that word if anyone doesn't fit in the role then he or she is not the promised Messiah!

Ohyoudidnt:


Read again what I wrote.

Where do you derive your misunderstanding that a stone is worshipped?

The Kaaba and the Black Stone hold significant importance in Islamic practices, they are not considered objects of worship for Muslims.

Muslims direct their prayers towards the Kaaba during the five daily prayers. The act of touching or kissing the Black Stone is a symbolic gesture of unity and is not a requirement for the faith.

Why directing your prayers towards the kaaba and you're not worshipping stone after directing your supplications towards the black stone right? Continue wallowing in your ignorance