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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:49pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:

Christians can mix in to come do evil!

This is the funniest thing you have said in this year! cheesy

How can you imagine that people who has been warned seriously by their leader never to harm anyone {Matthew 10:16} come into the midst of stone worshipers to do evil?

Ọmọ just admit that you people aren't having the same line of thought so you need security guards to keep watch over the worshipers of your black stone even though they claim they're worshiping God. cheesy
cheesy
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 12:52pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


Just tell us you have problem with Muslims!
More Pagan Practices in the Bible!

Genesis 19:1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. Lot worshipped Angels!

Exodus 18:7 So Moses went out to meet his father-in-law and bowed down and kissed him. They greeted each other and then went into the tent. Moses worshiped his in law and kissed him! Na same Kiss o! grin

Genesis 23:7 Then Abraham rose and bowed down before the people of the land, the Hittites. Abraham dey worship humans!

Genesis 33:3 Then Jacob went on ahead. As he approached his brother, he bowed to the ground seven times before him. Jacob worshiped his brother!

Genesis 42:6 Now Joseph was the governor of the land, the person who sold grain to all its people. So when Joseph’s brothers arrived, they bowed down to him with their faces to the ground. Joseph's family worshipped him!

Matthew 18:26 “At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ Is this worship too?

1 Kings 1:23 And the king was told, “Nathan the prophet is here.” So he went before the king and bowed with his face to the ground. Is this worship too?

2 Samuel 14:22 Joab fell with his face to the ground to pay him honor, and he blessed the king. Joab said, “Today your servant knows that he has found favor in your eyes, my lord the king, because the king has granted his servant’s request.” Is this worship too?

1 Samuel 24:8 Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, “My lord the king!” When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground. David worshipped Saul!

1 Kings 1:53 Then King Solomon sent men, and they brought him down from the altar. And Adonijah came and bowed down to King Solomon, and Solomon said, “Go to your home.” Adonijah worshipped Solomon too!

So I ask you again what is worship?
If bowing, Kneeling and putting the face to the ground is worship then all the above are pagans!

So as a Yoruba man, when I bow down b4 my parents, am I worshipping them?
because I just don't understand all these verses U brought here.
Confusing respect to worshipping.

When U bow before a stone, who are U worshipping?
Except U telling me U bow to the stone as a sign of respect to the stone!!!

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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 12:53pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


Which of your Gods was present in the temple?

The three or Just one?

The Spirit, the man or the dove? grin

Daniel bowed in the direction of the temple, why?

The temple is filled with the shikenah glory- the spirit of God with his glory.
Do U now see why we Christians worship the Holy spirit? Its in the old testament?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 12:58pm On Apr 22
SIRTee15:


So as a Yoruba man, when I bow down b4 my parents, am I worshipping them?


When we bow to stone as a direct order from Allah you call us idolators! A stone is none living but Allah commanded us to do so!
You bow to your parents who are living unlike a non-living stone!

I don't bow or Prostrate to humans as this is against the teachings of Allah!
All my bowing and prostration are for Allah


So I ask you again what is worship?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 1:02pm On Apr 22
SIRTee15:


The temple is filled with the shikenah glory- the spirit of God with his glory.
Do U now see why we Christians worship the Holy spirit? Its in the old testament?

God said you should worship Him in many places!

Deuteronomy 6:13
Fear the LORD your God, serve Him only, and take your oaths in His name.

Deuteronomy 10:20
You are to fear the LORD your God and serve Him. Hold fast to Him and take your oaths in His name.

Where did the Spirit or Jesus say the same anywhere in the Bible?

No dey cap nonsense bro!

Falsehood is falsehood!
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by FxMasterz: 1:05pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


The last portion of your screenshot! grin


The Psalms are generally called Psalm of David because David wrote most of them but He did not write all of them.
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 1:06pm On Apr 22
MaxInDHouse:


This is the funniest thing you have said in this year! cheesy

How can you imagine that people who has been warned seriously by their leader never to harm anyone {Matthew 10:16} come into the midst of stone worshipers to do evil?

Ọmọ just admit that you people aren't having the same line of thought so you need security guards to keep watch over the worshipers of your black stone even though they claim they're worshiping God. cheesy
cheesy

So you think all those people over there are Muslims?
And one other thing!
In cases of emergencies who attends to them?
Like someone fainting or the likes!

And many ritualists have been caught by these securities!

So Grandpa please sir use your brain!
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 1:12pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


God said you should worship Him in many places!

Deuteronomy 6:13
Fear the LORD your God, serve Him only, and take your oaths in His name.

Deuteronomy 10:20
You are to fear the LORD your God and serve Him. Hold fast to Him and take your oaths in His name.

Where did the Spirit or Jesus say the same anywhere in the Bible?

No dey cap nonsense bro!

Falsehood is falsehood!

Did Israelites worship the shikenah Glory?
Yes or No.
Was the Angel of the LORD called God in the old testament? Yes or No.

Good thing we moving into trinity. I will bury u once and for all.

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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 1:12pm On Apr 22
FxMasterz:


The Psalms are generally called Psalm of David because David wrote most of them but He did not write all of them.

Who wrote "of David" there when you claim David didn't write it?

Who is the liar?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 1:13pm On Apr 22
SIRTee15:


Did Israelites worship the shikenah Glory?
Yes or No.
Was the Angel of the LORD called God in the old testament? Yes or No.

Good thing we moving into trinity. I will bury u once and for all.

Show us verses?

Satan is God!
Human is God!
Moses was God!
Idols are Gods!

Same Elohim!
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 1:16pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


When we bow to stone as a direct order from Allah you call us idolators! A stone is none living but Allah commanded us to do so!
You bow to your parents who are living unlike a non-living stone!

I don't bow or Prostrate to humans as this is against the teachings of Allah!
All my bowing and prostration are for Allah


So I ask you again what is worship?

Answer my question my friend...

As a Yoruba man, when I bow down b4 my parents, am I worshipping them?

because I just don't understand all those verses U brought here.
Confusing respect to worshipping.

When U bow before a stone, who are U worshipping?
Except U telling me U bow to the stone as a sign of respect to the stone!!!

Your claim U bow to no one but Allah is a lie.
See your emir bowing to another human being.
And U dare not go b4 your emir and not bow. Oniro...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcGZbDOMTac?feature=shared

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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 1:18pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


Show us verses?

Satan is God!
Human is God!
Moses was God!
Idols are Gods!

Same Elohim!

Did Israelites worship the shikenah Glory?
Yes or No.
Was the Angel of the LORD called God in the old testament? Yes or No.

Answer the questions first and I will reply.
I dont want U hiding or denying when I respond with evidence from the scriptures.

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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 1:20pm On Apr 22
SIRTee15:


Did Israelites worship the shikenah Glory?
Yes or No.
Was the Angel of the LORD called God in the old testament? Yes or No.

Answer the questions first and I will reply.
I dont want U hiding or denying when I respond with evidence from the scriptures.

Show us verse?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by FxMasterz: 1:22pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


Who wrote "of David" there when you claim David didn't write it?

Who is the liar?

The publisher of course. That they wrote 'of David' does not mean David sang it.
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 1:25pm On Apr 22
SIRTee15:


Answer my question my friend...

As a Yoruba man, when I bow down b4 my parents, am I worshipping them?

because I just don't understand all those verses U brought here.
Confusing respect to worshipping.

When U bow before a stone, who are U worshipping?
Except U telling me U bow to the stone as a sign of respect to the stone!!!

Your claim U bow to no one but Allah is a lie.
See your emir bowing to another human being.
And U dare not go b4 your emir and not bow. Oniro...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcGZbDOMTac?feature=shared

Yes you are worshipping them!
It is the same prostration we bow to Allah!
It is the same you accuse us of!

You don't call someone a liar till you are sure of your position!

The texts of the Sunnah and the consensus of the ummah indicate that it is prohibited to prostrate to anyone other than Allah according to the law brought by our Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), whether by way of greeting or worship, as the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) forbade Mu‘aadh ibn Jabal to prostrate to him when he came from Syrian and prostrated to him by way of greeting.

So whether some Muslims do it or not it still remains forbidden!

The Question still stands!
So I ask you again what is worship?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 1:27pm On Apr 22
FxMasterz:


The publisher of course. That they wrote 'of David' does not mean David sang it.

So who sang it?

Muslims?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by FxMasterz: 1:31pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


So who sang it?

Muslims?

Lol. So, you agree that the prophets of the Bible were not Muslims contrary to the lies that you lots have been spreading around?

Abraham who never visited anywhere near Mecca was even said to have built the ka'aba by the liars.

May God have mercy on you.

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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 1:42pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


Yes you are worshipping them!
It is the same prostration we bow to Allah!
It is the same you accuse us of!

You don't call someone a liar till you are sure of your position!

The texts of the Sunnah and the consensus of the ummah indicate that it is prohibited to prostrate to anyone other than Allah according to the law brought by our Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), whether by way of greeting or worship, as the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) forbade Mu‘aadh ibn Jabal to prostrate to him when he came from Syrian and prostrated to him by way of greeting.

So whether some Muslims do it or not it still remains forbidden!

The Question still stands!
So I ask you again what is worship?

Why should I care what U say...
Your emirs bow before another royalty.
Your islamic scholars bow b4 the emir...
Yet one Abu twins is here telling me it's haram.
Why should I believe U?

Sha don't come and greet my parents without
prostating because na there fight go start.

All characters in the bible who prostrated did so as a sign of respect and not worship.

Worship is only for God and no one else. It has nothing to do with prostration.
Respect is extended to humans and can be done based on cultural values and norm.

But when Muslims bow/prostrate before a stone what exactly are U doing?

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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by TenQ: 1:44pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


They don't need to be commanded!

Paul said All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 2 Tim 3:16

Those verses are teaching you something you don't know!

Those verses are God-breathed telling you some place must be faced!
Like Judas hung himself!
Everyone should start hanging themselves


You see how your argument scatter like harmattan dust?



But why do you face the Black stone when you Muslims pray?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by TenQ: 1:45pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


So I should tell you his name?
Seriously, are you asking me this?

When you can't engage in any sane discussion than to jump from today to yesterday and from yesterday to next week!
Please give me his name : I am expecting a fabrication
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 1:46pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


Show us verse?

If I show U the verse where shikenah Glory was worshipped by Israelites and where the Angel of the LORD is called God...
Will U accept the trinity is from the bible.
I'm not saying U should believe it but will U accept the trinity is from the scriptures?

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Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by TenQ: 1:50pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


Father is invisible!
Son is visible man!
Holy Spirit too is like an animal, a dove!

And all of them are one not three!
Your ignorance screams to the rooftop.

You say: There is nothing like God, but you adopt a Deity not different from Iblis!

Can Allah be on his throne and come to the earth at the same time?

Can Allah be on his throne and come to the the heavens at the same time?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:09pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:

So you think all those people over there are Muslims?
And one other thing!
In cases of emergencies who attends to them?
Like someone fainting or the likes!
And many ritualists have been caught by these securities!
So Grandpa please sir use your brain!

Of course i'm using it to the fullest!

Your fellow worshipers can't help during cases of emergency because the black stone they're worshiping will be annoyed for the break in transmission to save the life of a worshiper!

And there are RITUALISTS in your midst even after all the things you people read about your Allah, prophet and book?

Ọmọ you just kept making it more amusing! cheesy
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 5:00pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


Show us verse?

AbuTwin don run. Him meet challenge wey pass am, him run.
He will not allow some nairalander Christians to confuse his belief.

His Muslim colleague here already admitted Jesus has a divine nature.
AbuTwin don't worry, so long as U engage us here, we will open your eyes and U will see the truth.

Too much lies in Qur'an and Islam.
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 5:11pm On Apr 22
SIRTee15:


AbuTwin don run. Him meet challenge wey pass am, him run.
He will not allow some nairalander Christians to confuse his belief.

His Muslim colleague here already admitted Jesus has a divine nature.
AbuTwin don't worry, so long as U engage us here, we will open your eyes and U will see the truth.

Too much lies in Qur'an and Islam.


This is foolishness!
I said you should quote verse and your response is i don run!
What type of weed are you smoking?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 5:23pm On Apr 22
MaxInDHouse:


Of course i'm using it to the fullest!

Your fellow worshipers can't help during cases of emergency because the black stone they're worshiping will be annoyed for the break in transmission to save the life of a worshiper!

So who told you they were worshipping the black stone?

Just tell us you have problem with Muslims!
More Pagan Practices in the Bible!

Genesis 19:1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. Lot worshipped Angels!

Exodus 18:7 So Moses went out to meet his father-in-law and bowed down and kissed him. They greeted each other and then went into the tent. Moses worshiped his in law and kissed him! Na same Kiss o! grin

Genesis 23:7 Then Abraham rose and bowed down before the people of the land, the Hittites. Abraham dey worship humans!

Genesis 33:3 Then Jacob went on ahead. As he approached his brother, he bowed to the ground seven times before him. Jacob worshiped his brother!

Genesis 42:6 Now Joseph was the governor of the land, the person who sold grain to all its people. So when Joseph’s brothers arrived, they bowed down to him with their faces to the ground. Joseph's family worshipped him!

Matthew 18:26 “At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ Is this worship too?

1 Kings 1:23 And the king was told, “Nathan the prophet is here.” So he went before the king and bowed with his face to the ground. Is this worship too?

2 Samuel 14:22 Joab fell with his face to the ground to pay him honor, and he blessed the king. Joab said, “Today your servant knows that he has found favor in your eyes, my lord the king, because the king has granted his servant’s request.” Is this worship too?

1 Samuel 24:8 Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, “My lord the king!” When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground. David worshipped Saul!

1 Kings 1:53 Then King Solomon sent men, and they brought him down from the altar. And Adonijah came and bowed down to King Solomon, and Solomon said, “Go to your home.” Adonijah worshipped Solomon too!

So I ask you again what is worship?
If bowing, Kneeling and putting the face to the ground is worship then all the above are pagans!


And there are RITUALISTS in your midst even after all the things you people read about your Allah, prophet and book?

Ọmọ you just kept making it more amusing! cheesy
Are there not fornicators in your midst that you excommunicate?

For example, in 2015 in Australia, the Jehovah Witness recorded 1006 cases of Child sexual abuse from 1950 and none was reported to the police!

And there are many cover-ups within your organization which if you want we can proceed to expose here and you defend them!
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 5:30pm On Apr 22
SIRTee15:


If I show U the verse where shikenah Glory was worshipped by Israelites and where the Angel of the LORD is called God...
Will U accept the trinity is from the bible.
I'm not saying U should believe it but will U accept the trinity is from the scriptures?

Does that proof the concept of trinity to you? Chai!

Clutching at straws!
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 5:31pm On Apr 22
TenQ:

Like Judas hung himself!
Everyone should start hanging themselves


You see how your argument scatter like harmattan dust?



But why do you face the Black stone when you Muslims pray?

No! Samson killed himself with the presence of the Holy spirit!
So you can also do same!
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 5:34pm On Apr 22
FxMasterz:


Lol. So, you agree that the prophets of the Bible were not Muslims contrary to the lies that you lots have been spreading around?

Abraham who never visited anywhere near Mecca was even said to have built the ka'aba by the liars.

May God have mercy on you.

Don't divert the attention away from your lies!

Who exactly wrote of David in that Psalms?

And who wrote Psalms 138 if not David?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 5:38pm On Apr 22
SIRTee15:


Why should I care what U say...
Your emirs bow before another royalty.
Your islamic scholars bow b4 the emir...
Yet one Abu twins is here telling me it's haram.
Why should I believe U?

Catholics do many rituals which I can ascribe to you too!

Are those thing found in your scripture? Be sensible for once!



Sha don't come and greet my parents without
prostating because na there fight go start.
That's none of my Business! I will try as much as possible to be respectful enough and probably explain my beliefs.

All characters in the bible who prostrated did so as a sign of respect and not worship.
No! Cos when it is Jesus someone bow to you'll say it is worship!

Worship is only for God and no one else. It has nothing to do with prostration.
Respect is extended to humans and can be done based on cultural values and norm.

But when Muslims bow/prostrate before a stone what exactly are U doing?

Define what worship is and stop running?
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by FxMasterz: 5:45pm On Apr 22
AbuTwins:


Don't divert the attention away from your lies!

Who exactly wrote of David in that Psalms?

And who wrote Psalms 138 if not David?

It's a psalm. Part of the collection of songs. It's not every song you sing you must know the writer of it. Those were songs used to worship God in Israel in those days. David was not the writer of that particular psalm. Period.

Let's talk about your lies. Bible prophets are not Muslims. Abraham didn't build any ka'aba in Mecca. They're all deceptions.
Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 5:50pm On Apr 22
FxMasterz:


It's a psalm. Part of the collection of songs. It's not every song you sing you must know the writer of it. Those were songs used to worship God in Israel in those days. David was not the writer of that particular psalm. Period.

Who wrote the entire Psalms?
Writers unknown but ascribed to David, Moses, 11 sons of Korah, Heman, Asaph, Solomon,...! Is that difficult to say?

Let's talk about your lies. Bible prophets are not Muslims. Abraham didn't build any ka'aba in Mecca. They're all deceptions.

That's not the topic of this thread!

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